New York Yankees Trade Rumors: Latest Updates and Reaction
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With less than a month until Major League Baseball's trade deadline, we're getting to that time of year when trade rumors are swirling furiously.
One team always involved in trade buzz is the New York Yankees. General manager Brian Cashman is surely looking to add a starting pitcher, and some big names are reportedly available on the trade market. The Yankees could also look for bullpen help and maybe an extra bat in the outfield as they look to keep the Orioles, Rays and Red Sox at a distance in the AL East.
There are going to be plenty of rumblings to follow from now until July 31. But we'll help you keep track of the latest rumors, while also providing reaction and analysis
To stay updated on the latest Yankees trade rumors, keep checking here for the newest information. Just click over to the first slide and you'll find the most recent buzz that's been reeled in.
Yankees Get Casey McGehee for Chad Qualls
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31 at 5:30 p.m. ET
New York Yankees general manager got a reserve third baseman just before Tuesday's 4 p.m. ET trade deadline passed. The Yankees acquired Casey McGehee from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for reliever Chad Qualls.
McGehee had become expendable with a progression of transactions by the Pirates.
Getting Travis Snider from the Toronto Blue Jays pushed Garrett Jones from the outfield to first base, taking McGehee out of the starting lineup. Then the Pirates made a deal with the Marlins for first baseman Gaby Sanchez, which made McGehee unnecessary on the Pittsburgh roster.
According to The Wall Street Journal's Daniel Barbarisi, the trade between the Yankees and Pirates came together on Monday and did so quickly because the two teams had talked about McGehee last week.
Marc Carig of The Star-Ledger tweeted that Yankees general manager Brian Cashman was told McGehee might be available "if certain things happened." Those certain things obviously did happen with the other transactions the Pirates made before the trade deadline.
Cashman was able to turn nothing into something by dealing Qualls to the Pirates. According to the New York Daily News' Mark Feinsand, the Yankees planned to designate Qualls for assignment when Joba Chamberlain was activated before Tuesday's game.
McGehee hit .230/.297/.377 with eight homers and 35 RBI in 293 plate appearances for the Pirates this season. With Pedro Alvarez manning third base, McGehee primarily first base in Pittsburgh. But in his prior three seasons with the Milwaukee Brewers, McGehee mostly played third base.
Fangraphs' UZR rated him as the sixth-best defensive third baseman in baseball (and third-best in the National League) last season. So he would appear to be the glove that Cashman was seeking for third base.
Though McGehee has struggled offensively the past two seasons, he hit 23 homers with 104 RBI and an .801 OPS in 2010. Perhaps the Yankees can figure out how to get McGehee back to that form as well.
Yankees Still Alive for Ryan Dempster
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31 at 3:45 p.m. ET
A source told CBS Sports' Jon Heyman that Dempster told the Cubs he would agree to a trade with the Yankees. This is apparently an assurance the Cubs front office forgot to get from Dempster before arranging a deal with the Atlanta Braves last week, a trade Dempster vetoed as part of his "10-and-5" rights.
Dempster is reportedly comfortable with the Yankees with pitching coach Larry Rothschild and former Cubs general manager Jim Hendry on staff in the Bronx. But are the Yankees willing to give up the level of prospect (or prospects) that team president Theo Epstein is seeking? For a pitcher who's never played in the American League, the Yankees might not be.
It appears that the competition for Dempster is between the Yankees and Texas Rangers now, as the Dodgers have pulled out of talks with the Cubs, according to Yahoo Sports' Tim Brown. Presumably, the Dodgers couldn't come up with a prospect that the Cubs wanted. Certainly no one the caliber of Randall Delgado, the pitcher the Braves offered for Dempster last week.
UPDATE (4 p.m. ET): ESPN's Buster Olney has reported that the Texas Rangers have acquired Dempster.
Yankees Pursuing Ryan Dempster Before Deadline?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. ET
New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman is either trying to manage expectations or throw media off the scent of potential trades. The Journal News' Chad Jennings quotes Cashman as saying the Yankees will "do nothing, most likely."
Does anyone really believe that?
According to CSN Chicago's David Kaplan, the Yankees are among three teams making a run at Ryan Dempster in the hours leading up to Tuesday's trade deadline.
Also in the derby are the Los Angeles Dodgers (Dempster's preferred destination) and the Texas Rangers. Apparently, the Yankees and Rangers have stepped up their efforts to make a deal in the past 48 hours.
However, Kaplan later tweeted that the Yankees are "not as motivated" to get Dempster as the Dodgers or Rangers. That would make sense, as the Yankees don't have as glaring a need for a starting pitcher. They already have a No. 1 starter in CC Sabathia. Hiroki Kuroda and Andy Pettitte (when he returns) give the Yankees a strong top three.
Kaplan also reports that Dempster would approve a trade to either of the three teams and not veto a deal, as he did last week with the Atlanta Braves.
The reported interest in Dempster is curious, as the Yankees seemed to initially feel that he might not be suited for pitching in the American League, especially against AL East competition. That perception has obviously changed, perhaps because Dempster is one of the few starting pitching options still available and would cost less than teammate Matt Garza.
The guess here, however, is that Dempster ends up with the Dodgers or Rangers by the trade deadline. As Kaplan said, the Yankees aren't as motivated to make a deal. They have starting pitching depth that other playoff contenders are lacking.
Yankees Looking at Defensive Third Basemen While A-Rod is Out
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Posted: Tuesday, July 24 at 10:00 a.m. ET
Alex Rodriguez is out for four to seven weeks with a broken hand, but the New York Yankees have in-house replacements in Eric Chavez, Jayson Nix, Ramiro Pena and Eduardo Nunez.
However, the Yankees are reportedly seeking more help for the position, especially anyone who can provide a good glove.
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Yankees are casting a wide search for available third baseman or shortstops. Heyman lists as many as 10 names, including the San Diego Padres' Chase Headley. But given what the Padres will want in return, Headley is viewed as a longshot.
Heyman tweeted that the Yankees asked the Seattle Mariners about Brendan Ryan, currently one of baseball's best defensive shortstops. (Fangraphs' UZR rates him as the best in baseball.) But the M's turned down whatever offer the Yankees may have made. Or they just said he wasn't available.
Also on the Yankees' radar is Arizona Diamondbacks utility infielder Willie Bloomquist. He would seem to be an ideal fit, as he can play third base and shortstop as well as the outfield.
With the number of players available combined with the Yankees apparent desire for a glove at third base, this looks like a deal that could get done by the trade deadline.
Many of these players will likely sneak through waivers, however, and could be available at the Aug. 31 waiver trade deadline. That would also give the Yankees a chance to see if they're comfortable with their current quartet of third base fill-ins.
Yankees Among Teams Pursuing Rafael Betancourt?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 31 at 9:30 a.m. ET
Just about every playoff contender is looking to add bullpen help at the trade deadline. The New York Yankees are no exception.
According to the Denver Post's Troy Renck, the Yankees are among at least three teams (including the Oakland Athletics and Baltimore Orioles) showing interest in Colorado Rockies closer Rafael Betancourt.
Betancourt has been one of the few highlights for the Rockies this season, compiling a 2.92 ERA and 17 saves in 38 appearances. He's struck out 38 batters (versus 10 walks) in 37 innings. He'd give the Yankees another right-handed arm behind Rafael Soriano in late innings.
Adding to Betancourt's appeal is that he's under team control through 2014. He's owed $4.25 million for 2013 with a mutual option for the same amount (or a $250,000 buyout) in 2014.
However, the New York Post's Joel Sherman disputed Renck's report, tweeting that the Yankees haven't contacted the Rockies about Betancourt at all. Are the Yanks being thrown out there as leverage against any other suitors for Betancourt? Or is general manager Brian Cashman playing down any interest, hoping to sneak in at the last minute to make a deal?
The Yankees don't necessarily need Betancourt with David Phelps and Cody Eppley providing right-handed arms in the bullpen. But perhaps Cashman prefers one more veteran there.
Scratch Ty Wigginton off Yankees Shopping List
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25 at 8:00 p.m. ET
Could Ty Wigginton be the New York Yankees' answer to replacing Alex Rodriguez while he recovers from a broken left hand?
Wigginton would be a capable fill-in who could play third base and a variety of other positions, as he has this season for the Philadelphia Phillies.
However, CBS Sports' Jon Heyman tweeted that the Phillies prefer to keep Wigginton right now. Heyman goes on to speculate that Wigginton might be insurance against Placido Polanco, who's dealing with back problems.
Wigginton can't be considered much better than what the Yankees already have in Eric Chavez, Ramiro Pena and possibly Eduardo Nunez. This season, Wigginton is batting .235/.307/.377 with nine home runs and 37 RBI.
Yankees Chasing Chase Headley as Replacement for A-Rod?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 25 at 7:00 p.m. ET
Are the Yankees going to pursue a third baseman to replace A-Rod, who will be out for six to eight weeks?
Soon after the injury was announced, Twitter began buzzing with theories of who the Yankees might try to pick up as a replacement. Hanley Ramirez's name was quickly tossed out there, but he was traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers before solid rumors could even be started.
The other prominent third baseman on the market is the San Diego Padres' Chase Headley. Not only could he play third base in A-Rod's absence, but as Fox Sports' Jon Paul Morosi mentioned on Twitter, he also has experience in left field. That gives him another position to play once Rodriguez returns.
Hitting in the vast Petco Park, Headley has compiled a .268/.361/.423 slash average with 11 home runs and 50 RBI. Imagine what he could do at Yankee Stadium.
For the rest of the season, Headley could rotate between third base, left field and designated hitter as Yankees manager Joe Girardi tries to keep him in the lineup.
However, CBS Sports' Jon Heyman believes that the Yankees won't trade for Headley because GM Brian Cashman won't want to part with the prospects it would take to make a deal happen.
Will Yankees Go After Chase Headley?
I agree that Headley would be a great fit, but the Yankees might feel they can get by with Eric Chavez and Ramiro Pena at third base until A-Rod returns. But it's possible he could be out until the end of September, which might be longer than the Yankees can deal with.
Other teams such as the Cleveland Indians and Baltimore Orioles have a greater need at third base and could make a harder push for Headley. But if Padres GM Josh Byrnes sees players in the Yankees' system that he likes, perhaps he could try to make a trade with the Yankees happen.
Ichiro Suzuki in a Yankees Uniform
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Posted: Monday, July 23 at 10:00 p.m. ET
Seattle Mariners fans, New York Yankees fans and baseball fans didn't have much time to grasp the concept of Ichiro Suzuki in a Yankees uniform.
With the Yankees in Seattle to play the Mariners, Suzuki didn't have to go far to join his new team, going from the home clubhouse to the visitors'.
While many were still discovering and digesting the news of the trade, of the end of Suzuki's 12-year career with the Mariners, he was in a uniform with "New York" on its chest and warming up with his new team.
What a whirlwind four hours it's been.
Yankees Make Surprise Trade for Ichiro Suzuki
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Posted: Monday, July 23 at 8:30 p.m. ET
The New York Yankees found their replacement for Brett Gardner on Monday, making what may be the most surprising trade of the year.
As first reported by YES Network's Jack Curry, the Yankees acquired outfielder Ichiro Suzuki for the Seattle Mariners in exchange for pitchers D.J. Mitchell and Danny Farquhar.The Yankees will pick up $2.25 million of the $6.7 million remaining on Suzuki's contract, according to the New York Post's Joel Sherman.
Of course, another reason the Yankees didn't have to give up much in trading for Suzuki is that he's not having a very good year and will be a free agent after the season. Suzuki, 38, is batting .261/.288/.353 with four home runs, 28 RBI and 15 stolen bases. That is far below his career batting average of .322.
By trading Suzuki, the Mariners rid themselves of what was sure to be a difficult, awkward situation in the offseason. Should the team re-sign a hugely popular figure when he's clearly past his prime? Or was it time to move on, cast an eye toward the future and put a more capable player with more upside in right field?
The Mariners should also be off the hook from a public relations standpoint. In a press release (posted here by the Seattle Times' Geoff Baker), team CEO Howard Lincoln revealed that Suzuki requested to be traded several weeks ago, realizing that the team needed to go with younger players in the lineup.
Can Ichiro Suzuki help the Yankees?
As surprising as the trade was, did the Yankees pick up a name more than a player who can make a contribution?
Suzuki still plays excellent defense in right field, so he certainly helps the Yankees in that aspect of the game. Their outfield defense is much improved now.
However, Suzuki might not be able to replace Gardner at the plate. He is clearly in decline and hasn't produced runs for the Mariners. But perhaps that could change with the Yankees. Will Suzuki be rejuvenated by leaving a rebuilding team and playing for a World Series contender? That's clearly what the Yankees are hoping.
Watching Suzuki in another uniform—and it happened fast, with the Yankees in Seattle to play the Mariners—is going to be an adjustment for every baseball fan. But it could be exciting to watch him participate in a playoff race and the postseason. It could provide a nice way for Suzuki to end his career.
Yankees Checking in on Justin Upton, Shane Victorino, Denard Span
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Posted: Monday, July 23 at 6:00 p.m. ET
With Brett Gardner now out for the season with an elbow injury, the New York Yankees are on the hunt for an outfielder. Starting pitching almost seems to be an afterthought now for Yankees general manager Brian Cashman.
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Yankees are "in on everyone right now" and have checked in on three prominent names that could be available before the July 31 trade deadline.
Clearly, the Yankees are looking for speedy players who can play defense, rather than sluggers. (Though Upton at his best probably qualifies as both.)
Will the Yankees get a prominent outfielder to replace Gardner?
It sounds like Cashman is casting a wide radius in an attempt to fill the gaping hole in the Yankees' outfield. Like deputy marshal Samuel Gerard in The Fugitive, Cashman and his staff are conducting a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse to find their man.
Justin Upton is probably the ideal target as he's 24 years old and under club control through 2015. Though he doesn't provide the on-base threat that Gardner did, Upton can hit for more power and gives the Yankees a quality defender in right field. Additionally, he helps make the Yankees roster younger, something Cashman really needs to do.
However, if the Yankees are looking for more of a Gardner replacement, Span might be the way to go. He can play all three outfield positions and has the speed to make up for what he lacks in power.
Victorino is intriguing in that he's a fiery personality and it would be intriguing to see how he fits into a Yankees clubhouse that's relatively plain except for Nick Swisher. Maybe Victorino and Swisher would become New York's favorite power clubhouse couple.
Is Rick Ankiel a Good Fit for the Yankees?
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Posted: Thursday, July 19 at 6:00 p.m. ET.
With Brett Gardner's return now highly questionable following a relapse of his right elbow injury, the New York Yankees are reportedly looking for an outfielder before the July 31 trade deadline.
However, if the Yankees are more concerned about replacing Gardner's defense, another option became available on Thursday. The Washington Nationals designated Rick Ankiel for assignment to make room for reliever Drew Storen.
That compelled MLB Network's Peter Gammons to tweet that Ankiel would be "a great fit" for the Yankees.
Should the Yankees pick up Rick Ankiel?
Ankiel offers nothing offensively for the Yankees. He batted .228/.282/.411 in 171 plate appearances, which is why the Nationals considered him expendable.
The Yankees don't need Ankiel for offense, however. They can get by with Raul Ibanez and Andrew Jones in left field. But those players don't provide the defense that Gardner did. Ankiel would be an excellent bench piece to use as a late-inning defensive replacement. His left-handed bat could be useful as a pinch-hitter too.
With Ankiel being designated for assignment, the Yankees wouldn't have to trade for him. They could wait until Ankiel clears waivers and then hope other teams pass on him.
To ensure they'd get Ankiel, the Yankees could work out a trade with the Nats. Considering they already cut him loose, the Nationals wouldn't be in a position to ask for much in return.
If the Yankees are still prioritizing a starting pitcher before the trade deadline, a lower-cost outfielder like Ankiel could be the way to go.
Wandy Rodriguez on the Yankees' Radar?
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Posted: Thursday, July 19 at 5:30 p.m. ET
The Yankees were also attached to Rodriguez in trade rumors last year, so there's been apparent interest in the Houston Astros left-hander for quite some time now.
Or is there?
The Newark Star Ledger's Marc Carig tweeted Thursday afternoon that a source told him Rodriguez is "not even on their radar."
So there's that. Were the Yankees watching someone else on the Astros or Padres rosters Thursday night? Carlos Quentin? Clayton Richard? Huston Street? If there's no interest in Rodriguez, why did the Yankees have a scout in attendance then?
Are the Yankees really interested in Wandy Rodriguez?
I wrote about this in far more detail in another post, but the Yankees showing interest in Rodriguez doesn't make much sense to me. He's a career National League pitcher who gives up quite a few hits.
That doesn't fit the profile of the pitchers Yankees general manager Brian Cashman typically pursues. After watching the likes of Carl Pavano and Javier Vazquez quiver in pinstripes, he seems to place a premium on pitchers who have pitched in the American League.
Yet there are reasons the Yankees might be interested. Rodriguez would cost less than the likes of Cole Hamels or Matt Garza. And as a left-handed pitcher, Yankee Stadium would be a friendly ballpark for him.
Of the two reports mentioned above, I'm inclined to believe Carig more. Even if the Yankees prefer a mid-rotation starter, there are better ones available.
Yankees Checked on Upton, but Have Nothing in Works
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Posted: Tuesday, July 17 at 10:30 a.m. ET
The New York Yankees are indeed looking for some outfield help with Brett Gardner still out due to an elbow injury. Are they looking to join the Justin Upton sweepstakes?
According to CBS Sports' Jon Heyman, the Yankees are more interested in outfielders than starting pitching, which runs counter to what most believe. Heyman believes this indicates the Yankees are worried about Gardner's ability to return.
Heyman acknowledges that getting Upton would be a long shot, however. Shane Victorino might be a more realistic trade target, though the Phillies' asking price is turning off the Yankees right now.
The Star-Ledger's Marc Carig tweeted that a source told him that "there's nothing going on with the Yanks."
Are the Yankees players for Justin Upton?
Yankees general manager has to check and see what it would take to get Upton. Otherwise, he wouldn't be doing his job. But he knows that the Yankees probably don't have the resources (players ready for the majors) it would take to make a deal happen at this point.
Plus, the Yankees have to work around Upton's no-trade clause, an obstacle Cashman might not want to deal with as other options are available.
As I wrote yesterday, Upton might be a more realistic pursuit for the Yankees during the offseason. However, if Cashman truly is worried about the team's outfield situation, he might step up his pursuit of Upton in the next couple of weeks.
If Yankees Want Upton, They Have to Deal with No-Trade Clause
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Posted: Friday, July 13 at 4:00 p.m. ET
If the Arizona Diamondbacks make outfielder Justin Upton available, could the New York Yankees get into the bidding?
ESPN.com's Jason Churchill suggests that they can and should. While Upton might not address the more immediate need of starting pitching, he would help them in the long term by giving them a younger position player.
Whether or not the Yankees are willing to part with the prospects that it would take to get Upton from the D-Backs is a valid question, however. The Texas Rangers, for example, could offer third base prospect Mike Olt. The Yankees have pitching prospects like Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos, but do they have any position players close to ready for the big leagues?
The other obstacle, as reported by ESPN's Buster Olney, is that Upton has the Yankees listed on his no-trade clause. The Yankees can negotiate around that, of course. But it does make a deal more difficult to arrange.
Can the Yankees get Justin Upton?
If Upton was a priority for them, I might feel more strongly about this. If this was still the George Steinbrenner era and The Boss wanted Upton, the Yankees would somehow get this done.
However, Cashman appears to be more focused on getting a starting pitcher. It's simply a greater need for the Yankees at this point.
Getting younger is something Cashman can focus on in the offseason. And if Upton is still available this winter, maybe this is something to be revisited.
Are Yankees Looking for Catcher to Replace Russell Martin?
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Posted: Friday, July 13 at 1:30 p.m. ET
Russell Martin has had an awful year so far for the New York Yankees. With the season at its midway point, Martin has a .179/.300/.348 slash average with eight home runs and 21 RBI.
With that kind of hole in their lineup, might the Yankees look for an upgrade at the trade deadline? According to the Star-Ledger's Marc Carig, the answer is apparently no. Yankees general manager Brian Cashman told Carig that he believes in Martin and considers their catching situation fine.
Maybe Cashman is right to be confident in Martin for the second half of the season. Last year, he was slightly better after the All-Star break with an OPS that was 56 points higher. But he also made 62 fewer plate appearances.
Betting on a catcher to improve in the second half, rather than wear down under the grind of the position, seems curious. But maybe Cashman and manager Joe Girardi feel that Martin will be all right as long as backup catcher Chris Stewart gives him an occasional break.
Should the Yankees go after a catcher?
Cashman might be taking such a hard stance because there isn't very much available on the trade market. MLB Trade Rumors has a list of available catchers here and no one jumps out as an immediate upgrade over Martin at the position.
Does Kurt Suzuki (.211 batting average) or Humberto Quintero (.598 OPS) really give the Yankees that much more than they already have?
One team that might be willing to trade a catcher is the Red Sox, who have Kelly Shoppach to spare. But there's no way they would make a trade to help the Yankees, of course.
As long as Martin provides good defense behind the plate, my guess is that the Yankees are happy with that. Martin could be better at blocking wild pitches and throwing out base stealers, but teams aren't willing to give up the catchers that have those skills. They're too important.
However, maybe Cashman is just messing with all of us and is working on a deal with the Rockies for Ramon Hernandez.
Yankees Think Asking Price for Cole Hamels Is Too High
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Posted: Friday, July 6 at 1:30 p.m. ET
The biggest name rumored to be available as we get closer to the July 31 trade deadline is Phillies left-hander Cole Hamels. The Yankees need starting pitching, in light of injuries to CC Sabathia and Andy Pettitte.
Don't Hamels and the Yankees look like a perfect match? Lefties always do well in Yankee Stadium.
Apparently not, according to ESPN's Buster Olney. Olney tweeted that the Yankees don't intend to join the bidding for Hamels unless the Phillies reduce their asking price.
What would that price be? In another tweet, Olney said that the Phillies want four to five prospects in return for Hamels. They also want to fill their holes at third base and the outfield with any potential deal.
Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal adds that the Yankees view Hamels as a rental through the end of the season. The team wants to be under the luxury tax threshold by 2014 and won't be able to do that if Hamels and a new mega-contract are on the payroll.
Are the Yankees bluffing on a Cole Hamels trade?
If the Yanks decide Cole Hamels is the difference between them and winning the World Series, Brian Cashman will go into full-on pursuit mode. But do the Yankees have the goods that the Phillies want in return?
If Olney's report is correct and the Phillies want third base or outfield prospects, that's not the strength of the Yankees farm system. Especially if Philadelphia general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. is looking for prospects that are close to ready for the major leagues.
I also believe the Yankees are probably serious about wanting to keep their payroll below the luxury tax threshold. Just because the Yankees can pay more money than anyone else and carry the biggest payroll doesn't mean that they have an unlimited budget.
Hamels is probably too pricey for even the Yankees right now.
Yankees Not Interested in Zack Greinke
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Posted: Friday, July 6 at 1:30 p.m. ET
Milwaukee Brewers pitcher Zack Greinke figures to be one of the top pitchers available leading up to the July 31 trade deadline. The Journal Sentinel's Tom Haudricourt reports that the Brewers will keep trying to work out a contract extension with Greinke before July 31, but if no agreement can be reached, the team will try to trade him.
Given his experience pitching in the American League, the Yankees would appear to be interested in Greinke. But according to Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal, they're not talking to the Brewers about a deal.
The Yankees are always concerned about whether or not a player can handle the intense media and fan scrutiny that New York provides. Greinke's history of depression and social anxiety disorder has the Yankees believing that he wouldn't deal with playing in New York very well.
Should the Yankees pursue Zack Greinke?
I have a hard time believing the Yankees wouldn't be interested in Greinke if the Brewers wanted to make a deal. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball and has the strikeout stuff that could shut down a powerful AL East lineup.
Concerns over Greinke handling the grind of the New York media horde and the big city are realistic. But I doubt Greinke is so weak-minded that he couldn't handle the heavy expectations of playing for the Yankees, especially in the short term.
Greinke has managed to stay focused as trade rumors swirled around him previously with the Royals and now with the Brewers. Yes, New York is a whole different story with the number of reporters and publications that cover the Yankees. But Greinke hasn't played in a bubble during his nine years in the major leagues either.