Listed below, are the points and counterpoints about if the Bengals should sign Marvin Lewis to a long-term extension:
Point: No, he has no playoff wins in eight years.
Counterpoint: Yes, Lewis is a big reason that there has been a change in the perception of the Bengals' franchise and its players.
P: Mike Brown would be wise to see if Lewis can have a good season more than once every few years first.
CP: He has had his hands full cleaning up the Bengals.
P: Does that take eight years?
CP: Yes, the Bengals were a joke for years and years before Marvin's arrival.
P: That is certainly true but many other coaches could step in and do the job he has done.
CP: Are you crazy? Many have tried and failed.
P: Those guys were not head coach material. Dave Shula? Dick LeBeau is a Hall of Famer and a great coach but he was no head coach.
CP: Lewis has put his blood, sweat, and tears into this team. He deserves to be there for the success. I hope ownership and people like you realize that.
P: He has never been a good game manager. Did you see the Jets game where he squandered his two challenges?
CP: Those did not come back to haunt him.
P: They were beyond bad.
CP: I'll give you that but his coaches in the booth might have had a hand in that.
P: Those are on Lewis. He is one of the worse game managers in the league.
CP: I would concede that he could work on that but that is a small part of winning games. They seem bad but in the end, there is little or no impact on the final score.
P: What about the Pittsburgh game in 2006 where he wasted a timeout freezing Jeff Reed? That cost them the game.
CP: We will never know that.
P: I do know that. Anyway, Marvin wants more responsibility for the team. He won't ever get it.
CP: It seems like Mike Brown is trusting Marvin more nowadays with front office decisions.
P: Lewis is likely looking for full control over roster decisions that are made.
CP: He should. The Bengals are in the best shape in a long time. The most credit for this goes to Lewis.
P: Mike Brown gets no credit for this? Marvin has always said that Mike Brown makes all the final decisions.
CP: He has done well at getting out of the way. The Bengals have no personnel department to speak of. Who advises him on what players are available and who would fit what the Bengals like to do? Brown?
P: You are saying that Lewis is pulling the strings for the Bengals?
CP: Lewis' connections around the league are the reason Bengal fans can watch veteran castoffs succeed.
P: You are referring to David Jones, Chris Crocker, Cedric Benson, Tank Johnson, and Roy Williams?
CP: Yes, the Bengals now have depth at almost every position.
P: With no scouting department, the Bengals are relegated to rolling the dice on high-risk guys. They have even taken a look at Pac Man Jones. Sometimes these castoffs pan out, sometimes they don't. The Bengals are simply on a hot streak.
CP: You are living in the 90s. The team has moved on. It can't be just dumb luck. Marvin is great at maximizing the potential of his players.
P: Mike Brown has to get some credit for this. He will never allow for someone else to make football decisions.
CP: Mike is the GM in name.
P: It seems like when something goes right, you want to give credit to Marvin Lewis. When things go badly, Mike Brown is to blame. You can't have it both ways.
CP: For example?
P: How about Jerome Simpson? Why can't that guy get on the field?
CP: I don't know but teams whiff on draft picks all the time.
P: What about Laveranues Coles?
CP: In retrospect, he should not have been signed but they needed a quick replacement for Houshmandzadeh.
P: They brought in a guy clearly on his last legs for about the same money.
CP: You got me there. They made a bad move but they are not alone in making bad free agent choices. Also, the some scouts would have come in handy. Marvin can't do it all.
P: All he would have had to do is read the Jets message boards to see Coles is washed up.
CP: If these decisions were made by Marvin Lewis, there would be fewer bad ones. If Mike Brown reverts to the 90s version, they are in trouble. Signing Lewis and making him happy should be a top priority.
P: If he doesn't, Mike Zimmer should be next in line for the job.
CP: That would work nicely since Mike Brown loves to promote from within the organization.
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