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The Browns followed up their Monday night beatdown of the defending champs by laying a giant egg in the Nation’s Capital. The guys examine play-calling, quarterback play, coaching, the defensive performance and look ahead to Week 8 versus the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Alright gentlemen, let’s talk Browns football…
The Browns lost a nail-biter to the Washington Redskins, 14-11. The offense didn't seem to get into any sort of rhythm until the 4th Quarter. What did you think offensive play-calling and game plan?
I didn't notice anything particularly wrong with the offensive strategy. I felt Chud called a pretty consistent game based on our strengths; he stuck to what usually is his winning formula, if you will.
I felt he called all our running plays at good times, as we never took any negative yardage in the run game. The receiver’s had been getting open and getting into positions to make plays, unfortunately they were looked over. We didn't see as much of Josh Cribbs and Jerome Harrison as we might have wanted to see, but the over use of them will also lower their effectiveness.
All in all the strategy used gave us the most probable chance to win.
No matter the play calling, when you have a quarterback who goes 14-37, nothing can help. I'm not saying Romeo's standard lackluster game plan doesn't hold some of the blame but come on. 236 total yards in a game against a much smaller, less physical defense than the team you just dropped 35 on the week prior.
I thought it was awful. No creativity, no chances taken and no shots downfield like versus the Giants. The Redskins are a good, not great, team. They had injuries in their secondary. They had not generated an inordinate amount of pressure on QBs all year. So we come out with a ton of short passes with a quarterback who struggles with accuracy and take ZERO changes downfield all game. The red zone calls were the worst. First and Goal on the 1 on two separate occasions and one time we don't score and the other time it takes us three times and we burn precious time. There was no focus or approach to the Browns' offensive game plan. What were they trying to establish or exploit against the Redskins defense? There is no answer to that question.
I actually wasn't that upset by the offensive game plan. This was a tough defense to go up against, and if the Browns would have been able to execute, they had this game won. But they just couldn't do it. Maybe it was the short week, maybe it was an emotional letdown.
Bad Derek Anderson showed up on the road, again. He looked great on Monday night but when you go 3-14 for 17 yards in the first half, and look bad in the third quarter, shouldn't you be pulled? Do you think DA should have been pulled and do you think there are any reasons why this regime seems to resist putting Brady Quinn into the game?
I feel the inconsistent play by Derek Anderson is having the largest negative effect on the offense as a whole. He made some really bad throws, and I mean REALLY BAD. I understand that bad throws are going to happen, but with DA, it’s happening a lot and it’s affecting everyone.
The Browns feel they have a team they should win with; inserting Quinn doesn’t guarantee anything and may do more bad than good. Assigning a new starting QB is a process that has many elements. Main thing is, you don’t want any unnecessary pressure or hype on the young player. Ideally you want him to be comfortable and attempt to ease him in. Doing so in the first half of a bad season adds unnecessary pressure and is disruptive to offensive timing and consistency; therefore it is unlikely that a new QB is going to save a season. (I know, our offense is already disrupted, but it could get worse.)
Keeping DA as the starter has nothing to do with his market value, or the perceived notions that Anderson is Crennel’s “guy” he won’t come off of, and everything to do with timing. The Brady Quinn era is quickly approaching, but it’s not going to happen this year as long as there is still a chance to save the season with DA.
This is Anderson's team. DA showed last week why we paid that man his money. Sure this year he has been bad more than good, but it's not "Brady Time" just yet. With the schedule they have this season, it's Anderson's to lose. Putting Brady in this year or this early will only inhibit him from progressing as a passer and a great quarterback. He will get his shot, probably this season, but let Andersontake the lumps now and wait until we're completely out of it to let Quinn take the reigns. For now, let him drink his Myoplex, and eat Subway with Jared.
He absolutely should have been pulled. It's not just the numbers the team looked lifeless and completely off. Sometimes you need a change-up to kick start things. The Redskins were struggling too and maybe a change earlier by the Browns would have gotten them going sooner. There weren't a ton of penalties, there wasn't a ton of pressure in Anderson's face and he just looked out of sync. Just like it the Cincinnati game, if you aren’t going to go to your back-up QB then, when are you?
I honestly think that the Browns think if they pull DA during a game for Brady Quinn that there is no going back to DA ever. I disagree, Quinn is an unproven commodity. You paid a high price for him but he is still the back-up. Back-up QBs are paid to be ready to play; you can make the move during a game and go back to DA if you see fit or if Quinn struggles. It isn’t an ultimatum on Anderson's career.
I am ready to pull what little hair I have on my head out. I am usually the last one to start clamoring for the backup Quarterback, but it was obvious Sunday that DA just didn't have it. Even last week I was upset early in the game when he was still throwing behind receivers, and that was his supposed breakout week. One more week coach Crennel. We lose that one and there is no reason why the Browns should not start the Quinn era and get rid of this cloud of doubt that hangs over the organization. There needs to be a direction set now.
They didn't have a lot of procedural penalties this time but the Browns came out flat and lifeless. This team continues to fail to have any consistency. What does this coaching staff need to do to change this?
Consistency can be preached, but is it really a coachable area of the game? Consistency and concentration go hand in hand. Other than the handful of concentration drills that exist for players, I suppose the only thing that a coach can do is remain consistent in the manner in which they coach, teach, and practice. That’s a tough area to improve, especially mid season.
Well for starters get the lifeless blob off the sidelines. Someone should get the poison out for Romeo, because it's time to end it. Romeo is done at the end of this season. The Brown's are not going to make the playoffs. He has done nothing to progress a young star in the making in Anderson. He will leave, they need to hire a young fireball and start a new mindset in Cleveland.
The team will not get up against a Redskins team on Sunday afternoon. They may get up for their two remaining Monday games, but consider this team as pumped as their blob of a coach.
I don't know. If that is a cop out so be it. Ultimately, it is Romeo Crennel's job to have this team ready to play every week, which he has failed to do. It is Rob Chudzinski's job to ensure that he has a game plan in place that gets the team off to a fast start and he has not done that on a consistent basis. I have been impressed with what Mel Tucker has done on defense with injuries on the line, a poor linebacking corps and only two decent cornerbacks.
Bottom line, it's been almost four years and this continues to plague the Browns. If they haven't figured it out yet, I don't know if they will.
Hell, maybe we should have more procedure penalties, at least then the lineman were eager to get after it and make some blocks. Seriously though, I don't know. These guys are professional players who should know how to give their all each week. I have no way to explain Braylon dropping balls, or DA's inaccurate arm, or the O-line's inconsistent play, other than it is a lack of focus. How to change that with this coaching regime? It has yet to happen and likely won't.
The defense held the Redskins to 14 points and once again came up with a crucial turnover but they did get gashed for almost 200 yards rushing. What do they Browns need to do to stop the run on regular basis?
I wouldn’t expect the run defense to improve much, this year. Mel Tucker has a sort of give-take defense; we will give you some running room in order to shorten your passing game. This is obvious by how little the linebackers press the line of scrimmage and attack the run (i.e. filling run gaps, run blitzes). Instead the defense is allowing the play to develop in front of them and then react to the play. It is a good strategy to have to keep the “big play” from happening.
In my opinion, our opponents rushing attacks have looked good in the box score, but have been anything but impressive. As long as we remain at the top of the league in the points against statistic, I don’t see any reason to drastically change our defensive strategy against the run.
Draft better. So they've taken the draft picks to get good on offense, and we've all seen what they can do when they're at their best. They never really took a look at good defensive linemen or linebackers. You can't just think that getting guys other teams don't want is going to work.
Football is not a game where taking another team's trash will make your treasure. Take this next draft and draft defense, defense, defense. It's really the only way you're going to get better. There isn't the cap room so much anymore to buy talent, so Savage has to make some.
Get better linebackers. Our linebackers are horrible. The defensive line is fighting and playing hard despite the loss of Robaire Smith and Shaun Smith being out a few games. Shaun Rogers has been a beast at nose tackle.
This leaves the linebackers to make plays at or behind the line of scrimmage, which they can not. D'Qwell Jackson is quick and plays hard but is too small. Andra Davis is smart but is too slow. Leon Williams seems to be a specialty player. Willie McGinest is D-O-N-E, done. Kamerion Wimbley has not evolved. Alex Hall has a lot of potential but is raw. Injuries have nullified Beau Bell's season.
Get better players. Shaun Rogers can only do so much, and I am sick of watching Kamerion Wimbley running behind a play and piling on a tackle at the end of the play. I swear every time I look up Wimbley is chasing a ball carrier and jumps on the pile after the fact. I know that the Browns have invested a lot in him, but the time is passing to call him a big bust.
The Browns face another tough road test, heading to Jacksonville to face of the Jaguars. The Jags are coming off their bye and feature a monster running attack and tenacious defense. What do you expect from the Browns and Jaguars in Week 8?
It’s going to be a hard fought game for both teams. The Jags will find success on the ground with Taylor and Jones-Drew rushing and Garrard creating plays on the run. Mel Tucker is going to have to dial up some nice blitzes to attack Garrard were he’s most comfortable, scrambling. If we don’t let Garrard get comfortable, we will be able to control this offense.
If the Browns offense doesn’t get going early, it will be a long day against the balanced defense of the Jaguars. I suspect the Browns offensive woes will continue, Jags win 21-17.
I would like to think that the offense just got a wake up call. They know they can beat a good defense, because they did it in the Monday Night game against the Giants. They just need to open up the playbook a little bit and let Anderson throw more down field.
It will open up the running game for the guy who could win us the game in Lewis. They need a real nice 120 rushing game from him if they want to have any chance of winning.
Their defense will give up some yards. They have one of the best dual back, backfields in the NFL in Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor (if he is alright after leaving last weeks game against Denver with a head injury). They need to contain the pass and just slow down the run. It's one of those times where you won't just be able to stop it, just slow it down. My heart says Browns 24-21 my brain says Jags 24-10. I would like to believe my heart.
This does not look good on paper. Jacksonville is coming off a bye and will be healthy. Jack Del Rio will commit, and stay committed to, the run so we will get a steady dose of Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew. Their tall receivers may present a little bit of our problem for our corners. The game is on the road versus a physical, aggressive defense and that does not bode well for Derek Anderson. The Browns will have to play an efficient, disciplined game to stay in the game and have a chance to win. That is a daunting task for them.
Same old story Jeff, same old story. The Browns never match up well against teams like this, just look at our "rivalry" against Pittsburgh. It will be a long day of Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor. Their defense is actually ranked down a bit this year, allowing 340 yards per game, but we should know better. The Jags will control the clock and the game.
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