There has been much talk about the Raiders drafting Darren McFadden. You can look on almost any draft board and see it. I have used "the force" to come up with the secret draft pick in the sights of Al Davis and company.
And the pick is...
Keith Rivers LB, USC
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Don't believe me, check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXYE-hXNN-c
Rumors have been floating around that Rivers was the "staff favorite" at the Senior Bowl. Oakland has made a lot of moves this offseason, but if you have noticed, not many involve new linebackers.
Imagine, if you will, Rivers teaming up with Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard. Suddenly our run defense issues seem to float far away out of my perception.
The tricky part is the No. 4 pick is a bit too high for the standout linebacker from USC. Thus, my assumption, Oakland will look to trade down a handful of picks; gaining an extra pick in the third round.
Everybody knows the amount of money Davis has dished out this offseason, so dropping down a few picks will allow the Raiders to save a few bucks and get the player they truly want.
Don't forget about cornerback Fabian Washington and running back Dominic Rhodes, who could be included in some type of package deal for more picks.
Then we can open up a can of worms about Oakland keeping No. 4 pick and trading Fabian or Rhodes and a high pick in 2009, allowing the Raiders to move up to select Rivers later in the first round.
But we will save that issue for draft day.
For now, let's keep in simple. Save some money, add another draft pick, and get the player you REALLY want.
51 comments Last one added about 1 year ago — Leave a Comment
O Shiri about 1 year ago
Good selection though I think Lamont Jordon would be traded before Rhodes who just sined a new deal with the Raiders...
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Jeff Little about 1 year ago
Good Choice. Lamont Jordan will be released after June 1st. Fabian Washington or Stanford Routt can be traded but I think it will be Washington. I like the trade down and it is looking more like a reality.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
wow r u al davis
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
No. Dominic Rhodes didn't sign a new deal. The Raiders restructured his contract. Rhodes gets $1mill and some change. The Raiders did this so that if they can't trade him then they can keep him for cheap or just cut him and pay him a small sum. There was no "NEW DEAL". Restructured contract. There's a difference.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
LaMont Jordan's days of being a Raider are over.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
If we do keep Dominic Rhodes. It's for kick/punt returns. Rhodes and Johnnie Lee Higgins will team up in the return game. Rhodes will be the #3 RB. Michael Bush will be playing behind Justin Fargas. And by the mid- season Michael Bush will be the starter. And Fargas the #2.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I really hope that we don't draft Darren McFadden. He'll be a bust and a trouble maker.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I think that we should trade down and get more picks. We need a solid DT to help Tommy Kelly. And we need another WR. We also need another ILB. We need to at least trade for 3rd and 4th round picks. CB Fabian Washington/ Dominic Rhodes/ LaMont Jordan/ and a pick in the 2009 draft could be dealt for additional pcks this year.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
you are a smart man....
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Umer Waris about 1 year ago
Vernon Gholston is probably going to be available for the fourth pick and can play both DE and LB & I just dont see the Raiders passing on him if they wanted to consolidate their D-line with their fourth pick. I really like your idea about how we should trade down though. Not only will that save us some cash but it will give us some more picks allowing us to fill up more holes probably the O-line & D-line most notably. Great Article!
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
4th is way too high to select rivers, if any lb go gholston. and besides that, he plays weak side lb and we already have howard
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James Adler about 1 year ago
I would love to trade down but it would be out of character for us to do so. Trading down and picking up an extra pick would make alot of sense. There is no clear cut order of picks in the top of the first round this year. We could move down just a little and pick up Rivers or Clady and maybe a two down DT with the extra pick. Signing a 'Center' was HUGE for us and I agree we need an 'OLB' who can play the run just as much as we needed a 'Center'. I have no problem with us taking Rivers, I just hope we move down and get him.
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zak cowan about 1 year ago
ive been sayin rivers all offseason and finally someone agrees. this pick would solidify our elite d for the next 10-15 years, and about the weakside thing, he could make plays all around the field from any spot, iknow because ive watched usc all my life and this kid played all over the place under pete and plus if we decide to move to the 34 then i think he would make a great mlb or so would howard and then u could move rivers back to his natural side. man what a linebacker corps big rob never anything like that in ne, or maybd he did?
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
With the Raiders just signing Kalimba Edwards last week, I do not see us taking Vernon Gholston period. All these Mock drafts are crap anyway, it seems to me if Mel kiper spews it, that its etched in stone. Last night I see that his Mock draft had Jake Long at #1. There is no doubt in my mind that Chris Long is the clear #1, followed by Glenn Dorsey, and Darren Mcfadden. I figure Sedrick Ellis to be a top 5 as well. Raiders need immediate help on Offensive line, and they need a run stuffing Defensive Tackle. I believe the Raiders will stay at the # 4 spot and they will probably take Mcfadden because Al can't stand to watch flashy players slip through his hand. With KC picking right behind us I do not see Al letting perhaps an Adrian Peterson type back to fall in his hated rival hands. It is bad enough having to face Ladanlian Tomlison twice a year, we don't need another quick back to exploit our team's weak defense! Personally I think Miami is being the most quiet on their front , no one truly knows what direction they will go. Mcfadden could quite easily wind up #1. Dallas and Jerry Jones want Mcfadden very badly and Jerry Jones could wheel and deal and wind up with that #1 pick. My sentimental pick would be Chris Long but that is far fetched, and Glenn Dorsey would be my clear cut #2 choice. After that Mcfadden and then Jake Long. Either way, Iam sure I will be cussing up a storm on draft day because whomever Al picks, it will not be anybody I feel that the Raiders truly need. I firmly believe that if Darren Mcfadden slips to us at #4 no way in hell Al lets him get by us. I sure as hell don't want him wearing a KC uniform and god forbid if he winds up with the damned Fakriots!
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
With the Raiders just signing Kalimba Edwards last week, I do not see us taking Vernon Gholston period. All these Mock drafts are crap anyway, it seems to me if Mel kiper spews it, that its etched in stone. Last night I see that his Mock draft had Jake Long at #1. There is no doubt in my mind that Chris Long is the clear #1, followed by Glenn Dorsey, and Darren Mcfadden. I figure Sedrick Ellis to be a top 5 as well. Raiders need immediate help on Offensive line, and they need a run stuffing Defensive Tackle. I believe the Raiders will stay at the # 4 spot and they will probably take Mcfadden because Al can't stand to watch flashy players slip through his hand. With KC picking right behind us I do not see Al letting perhaps an Adrian Peterson type back to fall in his hated rival hands. It is bad enough having to face Ladanlian Tomlison twice a year, we don't need another quick back to exploit our team's weak defense! Personally I think Miami is being the most quiet on their front , no one truly knows what direction they will go. Mcfadden could quite easily wind up #1. Dallas and Jerry Jones want Mcfadden very badly and Jerry Jones could wheel and deal and wind up with that #1 pick. My sentimental pick would be Chris Long but that is far fetched, and Glenn Dorsey would be my clear cut #2 choice. After that Mcfadden and then Jake Long. Either way, Iam sure I will be cussing up a storm on draft day because whomever Al picks, it will not be anybody I feel that the Raiders truly need. I firmly believe that if Darren Mcfadden slips to us at #4 no way in hell Al lets him get by us. I sure as hell don't want him wearing a KC uniform and god forbid if he winds up with the damned Fakriots!
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I hope the Raiders are on an upswing. Beating them 9 times in a row has been fun but the rivalry just isn't the same when one team sucks for so long. I actually think Oakland has a good chance of finishing in 2nd this year ahead of the Donks and Chefs.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I wanted Vernon Gholston all along. Your probably right that we won't pick Gholston when we just signed Kalimba Edwards. But maybe there's a chance we still take Gholston. He can fill 2 holes. He can play DE and drop back to the ILB position. Gholston would be the ideal pick to strengthen our defense. I'm still hoping to get him. And your probably right about Al Davis not wanting the Chiefs to get Darren McFadden. But I say let them have McFadden. The Chiefs have a very poor O-Line. McFadden I think will be a bust and he definitely won't have a chance to be good with the Chiefs poor O-Line. Besides I think the Chiefs are definitely going to take an O-Lineman. They REALLY NEED one. But who really knows. Like the guy said above us. These mock drafts are bullshit and never go the way they predict. For instance every mock draft guy on ESPN and the NFL Network all said that QB Brady Quinn was going #1 to the Raiders or at least in the top 4 last draft. He fell to like what #15 or something I think. This year I think that the Dolphins will trade down. Our Raiders will trade down as well. Which is smart but it's not Al Davis's style. Who fucking knows. Anything can happen. We have less than a month to find out.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Seriously You guys are the smartest football guys that I have come across in any of these Bleacher report forums. I agree with a lot of what you guys were saying. You should hear some of the dumb shit I've heard on the other articles. Mindless bullshit.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Keith Rivers would be nice but we need a strong side line back, not two weakside ones...
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Your right. We don't need Keith Rivers. We already have 2 weakside LB's. We need a strongside LB. Don't get me wrong. He is a good solid player. But we just don't NEED him. What we really NEED is a DT to help Tommy Kelly stuff the run and put pressure on the QB. We can pick a ILB later in the rounds of the draft. LB isn't #1 priority. D-Line and O-Line are the #1 concerns right now. And another WR would be nice too.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
How about these changes on the O-line? STARTING LINE-UP: LT Robert Gallery LG Paul McQuistan C John Wade RG Cooper Carlisle RT Cornell Green BACK-UPS: LT Mario Henderson/ Seth Wand LG Chris Morris C Jake Grove RG Chris Morris RT Kwame Harris / Seth Wand
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
You guys forget just how long is Fargas going to hold up and all though i think Bush will tear it up we don't really know. If we take DM well so be it he is going to be dangerous. His cut back ability and speed is what we can use. We haven't had a cut back runner in a while. No matter what choice we make we will get a good player to help. Gholston I dont like because he doesnt have that mean streak to help make you a great player on the field. Rivers would make our defense young and he has pop. with our new safety and him putting out some hits it would make the defense a little more dangerous. but thats just my thoughts and everyone has great ideas. One thing I know for sure that its Raiders till I die. Peace out.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
How about this for the D-Line? LE Derrick Burgess RE Jay Richardson NT Terdell Sands DT Tommy Kelly DT Gerard Warren plays Nickel and DE Kalimba Edwards plays Nickel. DT William Joseph subs-in for DT Terdell Sands. Sands and Joseph play the run. And Warren and Edwards play the pass/Nickel. meanwhile Tommy Kelly can play VS the run or the pass because he's so versatile.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
We don't want McFadden!!! He's soft like drug store cotton. He goes down on contact and he is a trouble maker. We don't need that shit in Oakland. We have already gotten rid of the bad seeds and LaMont Jordan is next to go. We need a DT and a LT. McFadden is all hype just like Reggie Bush was. McFadden will be a bust or he will get himself busted by the cops off the field.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Darren McFadden won't be able to do what he did in college in the NFL. McFadden is the next Reggie Bush and he is a very "PAC MAN" Jones like player. But if he is the real deal. Then McFadden could be our "NEW" Marcus Allen.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vernon Gholston is a BEAST!!!!!!! Our defense would be fierce with Gholston added to it. The gut is a freak of nature and he lit up the combine and has impressed every team in the NFL. (Yeah I know so did McFadden)
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Derrick Burgess + Jevon Kearse(in his prime) = Vernon Gholston
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Gholston will be the closest thing to Lawrence Taylor.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Gholston is a tank... but i'd like to give Jay Richardson a chance as a starter... i'd like to be able to feel that the raiders got themselves a draft steal!! along with Bush... i'd like us to draft O line or D line... then we have a team that can get themselves in the contention of a playoff birth!!! Raiders 08!!!
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alex chavez about 1 year ago
Gholston has straight line speed and strength. However, he's raw mentally as he just started playing football late in high school. That's why OSU gave him two basic jobs - rush passer, drop back in zone coverage. I don't know that he'll come in and be able to dominate right away until he develops a better feel for the NFL game. He'll need to work on counter-moves, reading play actions, setting up linemen, all that small important stuff.
Richardson can play the run, Edwards can rush the passer. I doubt Oakland goes and gets a 3rd player at that same spot. Fargas is getting close to 30 years of age and has rarely if ever made it through a season injury-free. Bush is a question mark, and even if healthy, is more of a power back. McFadden has Fargas speed with better vision and a stronger frame. He'd be the best back right away.
I'd be happy with McFadden, Sedrick Ellis (who disrupts the heck out of a running game with his penetration and being double teamed), or a trade down that gets us a left tackle, Rivers, or Mendenhall.
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alex chavez about 1 year ago
Gholston has straight line speed and strength. However, he's raw mentally as he just started playing football late in high school. That's why OSU gave him two basic jobs - rush passer, drop back in zone coverage. I don't know that he'll come in and be able to dominate right away until he develops a better feel for the NFL game. He'll need to work on counter-moves, reading play actions, setting up linemen, all that small important stuff.
Richardson can play the run, Edwards can rush the passer. I doubt Oakland goes and gets a 3rd player at that same spot. Fargas is getting close to 30 years of age and has rarely if ever made it through a season injury-free. Bush is a question mark, and even if healthy, is more of a power back.
McFadden has Fargas speed with better vision and a stronger frame. He'd be the best back right away. I'd be happy with McFadden, Sedrick Ellis (who disrupts the heck out of a running game with his penetration and being double teamed), or a trade down that gets us a left tackle, Rivers, or Mendenhall.
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alex chavez about 1 year ago
Not sure why McFadden is compared to Bush. McFadden tore up the SEC, seen my most as having plenty of NFL defensive talent. He also is quite bigger than Bush and runs with more power. Oh well, I'm sure some people said Peterson would be a bust, and Bush would be great. I'm sure some said LT would be a bust because he played in an option offense at Texas Christian. Who knows right?
Just don't see a legit comparison between Bush and McFadden. Different styles, bodies, and competition. McFadden would fit Oakland's 1-cut system perfectly - just the way Fargas was able to finally succeed in it after not looking great in more conventional running systems before last year.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
you cannot say that Mcfadden is bigger than Bush!!
Mcfadden: Height 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) Weight 215 pounds (98 kg)
Bush: Height: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight: 245 lb (111 kg)
Bush weighs quite alot more and i know he is a power back and that is what will make him an every down player!! He also has quick feet and is unnaturally fast for his size.... he is raw talent and i believe has the potential to be more of a success than Mcfadden unless his injury has completly ruined his ability; which i doubt...
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
the body type comparison was to reggie bush not our michark bush.. huge difference
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I just hope we get SOH C. Long! Talk about a great PR move. I think Gholston has a higher ceiling but who would not want to see lightning strike twice with C. Long?
The next biggest move from a ticket sales perspective is the signing of DMAC and is probably the reason why we were given the MNF game imo.
As far as the pick of need its a clear cut decision Glenn Dorsey, can anyone here tell me that having the pass rushing DE's Burgess,Edwards DT's Kelly,Dorsey & run stopping DE's Richardson,Kelly DT's Warren and/or Joseph, Sands won't provide more depth at the line? Although I think a Long or Gholston would have the same effect on the D line by providing pressure, but the thing to keep in mind is the critical pick up of one pro bowl Cb D.Hall who will be a great 2WR cover man & allow us to concentrate on stuffing the middle of the line while our athletic and speedy LB's & S's sneak in for a sack or play the run. Its the only reason why I say DT edges out the DE position in this yrs draft as far as need is concerned.
LARaider70
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
First off. Who was the the dumb ass that thought we were comparing Darren McFadden to Michael Bush? We were talking about REGGIE BUSH my man. Anyway I agree wiyh the comments above from Anonymous. DT Glenn Dorsey is the player we NEED. With Dorsey on board we will be in the playoffs for sure. No doubt. Yes it would be nice to get the son of Howie Long Chris Long. And Vernon Gholston is a great pick as well. But Glenn Dorsey is the missing piece to the puzzle. We get Dorsey and our days of giving RB's 100+yrd games is over. I would like to see LT get past that brick wall of Dorsey/Kelly/Burgess/Richardson/Edwards/Sands and the back field of Morrison/Howard/Wilson/Huff. The Chargers days on top of the AFC West are numbered.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I also like T Jake Long. He would be a safe pick and would help our O-Line out tremendously. Long is visiting the Raiders today too.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Look I've been very hard on Darren McFadden. But I just have my doubts about him. I don't believe he can perform in the NFL like he did in college. I also don't like his attitude and his off the field behaviors. I just don't want my Raiders drafting a "PAC MAN" Jones type player. But I will be the first guy to admit that I was wrong if he turns out great for us. And I will be rooting for him when he plays and hoping he is the real deal. I hope he is that good. And we get him. I just don't want to pick a major bust when we are heading into the right direction finally. I've waited 5 years to see my team come out of the coma that we were in for all these years now. There is one thought that does go through my mind when I think about getting Darren McFadden. IF and I stress IF he is as good as he looks. Than he MIGHT be our next MARCUS ALLEN. Who knows. We'll have to wait and see. For right now I'm banking on Michael Bush to be a great surprise player for us. He has a lot of talent much like McFadden does. But that was a serious injury that he sustained in college. Hopefully Michael Bush is healed and ready to go. We'll have to wait and see. I do know this. If Michael Bush can be a solid RB and play at a high level and we draft McFadden and he turns out to be great. Then the Raiders will have the most explosive back field in the NFL.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
DORSEY IS AWESOME BUT WILL NOT BE THERE AT 4!!
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Oh yeah and I wasn't saying that Michael Bush and Darren McFadden have the same talent levels. I meant that they both did very well in college. They are different RB's. Bush is a power back and McFadden is a slasher and speed RB. With that combination. The Raiders will be deadly. IF IF IF IF they both pan out in the NFL.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I also wouldn't be upset if we took DT Sedrick Ellis. He's also a good fit. I really haven't heard alot of people talking about him on these chat rooms. We all know he's good. But not alot of talk about the Raiders maybe drafting him at #4.
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AirForce Raider about 1 year ago
Sedrick Ellis just had an impressive showing in USC's pro day yesterday. They did mention that he would be a good fit for the Raiders but I still see AL Davis drafting D mac instead. But you never know until the fat lady sings so to speak.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
they are crazy ..pick Mcfadden, then pick up a linebacker later u would be nuts to pass on that, line backers are a dime a dozen and anybody that knows football knows that. I gaurantee he will be better than any back they have now he'd beat 'em by a mile.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I would believe that the most likely to be a bust would be Darren McFadden as opposed to either Glenn Dorsey Sedrick Ellis Chris Long Vernon Gholston or Jake Long. Look at the history books. QB's and RB's are the most BUST prone players. McFadden is being soooooo hyped up. Again look at the history books. A very large percent of players in the draft over the years that were hyped up beyond belief end up a bust or under achievers.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Just look at Reggie Bush Ryan Leaf Brian Bosworth Tim Couch ect. All these guys we hyped up soooo much and were bust.
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Reggie Bush might not be a bust. but he's definitely an under achiever. He was supposed to be the next GREAT RB of all time. McFadden is getting the same kind of hype right now. Far too much hype for me to want him. It sounds just too good to be true. I hope he is that damn good and the Raiders draft him. He could be the next Marcus Allen. If so I will be the first to say that I was wrong and cheer him on. But if he ends up a bust or a trouble maker. Then I will be the first to say I told you so.
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O Shiri about 1 year ago
Look get off McFadden he is not the next Marcus Allen he might not even be the Fargus (Vernon Gholston at DE) is the right pick for the Raiders .
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Yeah!!!! I've been saying that for weeks. I want DE Vernon Gholston. He is the missing piece that the Raiders need. I don't like McFadden at all. Read my comment above more carefully. I didn't say that McFadden is the next Marcus Allen. I said that he is sooo hyped up right now. I think he will be a BUST. All I said was IF he is as good in the NFL as he was in college then he would be a Marcus Allen- like type player for us. I personally don't want him nor do I like him. I pray every night that we don't pick him. Listen to me carefully "I DON'T WANT McFADDEN!!!!!" I've wanted Vernon Gholston from day one. Gholston is our guy. "I WANT GHOLSTON" NO McFADDEN!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
Besides there is only one MARCUS ALLEN. He's my favorite all time Raider.
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Sean Fitzgerald about 1 year ago
First, a couple disclaimers: 1) I'm a Charger guy, but follow the Raiders closely for obvious reasons 2) I only scanned most of the posts above, so I apologize for any repetitive points. Just a couple observations about the article and some of the comments:
1. Rivers is indeed an interesting fit for the Raiders and would certainly give them a very dynamic LB corps. And I agree with the writer that #4 is too high (setting the stage for a trade down, which would be the best option for the Raiders). But I still think DT is the primary need, followed by OL.
2. Gholston is one heck of a player, but his body type, speed and skills seem more like a DeMarcus Ware/Shawne Merriman-type 3-4 OLB than a standard 4-3 DE. As the #4 pick, one of the Longs, Dorsey or Ellis WILL be available and both fit a bigger need for the Raiders.
3. No one...I repeat NO ONE....will give you a 1st round pick for one of your backup CB's. Washington was among the league "leaders" in completion % and yardage gained on passes thrown his way. With the multitude of CB's in this draft, I see no reason teams would choose to trade rather than select their own guy.
4. Mayock and Davis on the NFL Network are a microcosm of the conflict over McFadden. Davis thinks he's the best guy in the draft, Mayock has him closer to #10. I think it's smart of Raider fans to fight against taking him at #4, though the commonly accepted thought that Davis would do so could just be the leverage needed to make a trade down happen. For my part, I think McFadden is much more Reggie Bush than Adrian Peterson. In saying that, I'm not suggesting that Bush was not worth his pick and Peterson was, but the use of those two backs on the pro level is vastly different....and teams need to take that into consideration.
5. If there indeed is a team interested in trading up, I think it will be for McFadden. The other guys in the projected top 5-8 picks are at positions of some depth in the draft (DL, OL, CB) whereas the only potential homerun back is McFadden (at least based on "experts" that slot players).
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Anonymous about 1 year ago
I'm a Raiders fan. I don't like McFadden. I don't want McFadden. We don't need McFadden. i never thought that I would say this but " I agree with the Chargers fan". WOW!!! I know Nation. Forgive me. I agree that we need to pick a DT like Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis or maybe even DE Vernon Gholston. With the defense we have now and one of these guys(I prefer DT). We will have the ball on offense so much that It won't matter how well we can score. Our defense will force alot of turnovers and 3-&-outs. I think if our offense is capable of scoring 20 0r more points a game(which I think we can). Then we will win alot of games. our offense will be on the field the majority of the game and the defense will be rested because of the quick 3-&-outs and turnovers produced. Offense is great but Defense wins games. Last year we had several games where we had the lead in the 4th quarter and we gave up the big pass and gave up some big runs too. with our pass defense set to be dominant. Adding a DT to bolster our D-Line would stuff the run. Our defense should be able to produce some points also. Then on offense we run the ball and use the clock to our advantage(that's how Kiffin likes to play) and wear down opposing defenses and then throw the occasional play-action pass or deep pass on them. Strong Defense and clock management will win games for us.
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