The events of UFC 113 are now in the books, but the debate over some of the big talking points to emerge from Montreal will rumble on long into the coming weeks and possibly months.
We have a new LHW Champion, Kimbo Slice looks set to be cut from the UFC, Alan Belcher called out Anderson Silva after an impressive performance and Sam Stout was involved in yet another Fight of the Night.
For this writer and MMA fan, there was only one talking point from UFC 113 that will be remembered and debated longer then all the others and that was the Paul Daley vs Josh Koscheck fight.
Josh Koscheck beat Daley via a unanimous decision and will go onto to face the current Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre first as opposing coaches on the next season of the Ultimate Fighter and then as the No. 1 contender to the Canadian's title.
However, this was far from a normal fight and there is a lot more to talk about before we can even think to look at what the win does for Koscheck and the Welterweight division.
To make this more then a run down of the controversial nature of Saturday night's fight I have invited fellow MMA and B/R writer Robert Gardner to join me in discussing the events of the Paul Daley vs Josh Koscheck fight. Although some might say its impossible I think there is a case to try and defend "Semtex" and his actions but Mr.Gardner seems to disagree with me.
Greg Parfitt - Thanks for joining me today Robert. For many MMA commentators such as yourself and it appears for UFC President Dana White, the actions of Daley after the bell sounded the end of his contest against Koscheck were inexcusable.
However in my opinion there is a case to defend the hard-hitting British fighter from Team Rough House. I mean let’s be honest its not like he hit him that hard and the punch barely landed much like the knee to Koscheck in the first round which is a big issue that I will come to shortly!
Robert Gardner - Look, I get it. Daley was pissed about how the fight went down and yes; Koscheck has a way of getting under the skin of his opponents. But that in no way excuses Daley's bush league behavior.
I like Daley and I was pulling for him to get the win but what he did after the fight was over was totally classless. Daley got beat; he should have got up and congratulated his opponent like a true professional.
GP - You don't have to always congratulate your opponent after a defeat. Yes, it’s the classy thing to do but you don't have to do it, you're still going to hate the guy, right. Many fighters have done unprofessional things and got away with it, Forest Griffin running away after the Silva fight springs to mind.
If we're talking of class, let's talk about the knee incident in round one. Now, having listened to Koscheck in the postfight press conference and watched a few replays, I have not changed my mind—he was not hit by that knee. A slight graze with the big toe possibly, but no knee. For Koscheck to take the timeout and to say he was hit is severely lacking class in my book.
Daley has been made a scapegoat of by Dana White and the UFC.
RG - You are right—if you lose you don't have to shake hands or hug your opponent—but comparing Forest Griffin running out of the cage after the Silva fight and Daley tagging Koscheck with a cheap shot after the bell is ludicrous.
What Griffin did was definitely lacking in class but he didn't try to come over and attack Silva after the fight. Daley blatantly attacked another fighter after the fight was over. Any way you try to spin it he was in the wrong.
I'm not denying the fact that Koscheck pulled the ultimate bitch move by milking that phantom knee to the face but it sure as hell doesn't give Daley the right to hit him after the fight is over.
GP - Ok, ok I'll give you Griffin, I was just trying to point out that not everyone is GSP. Unprofessionalism exists and will continue to do so in sport.
It's pretty hard to defend Daley hunting down Koscheck after the bell to hit him, but for him to be cut immediately by the UFC is where I am most surprised, and I think there is a big case to defend "Semtex."
Like I said earlier, I think he has been made a scapegoat of. The timing couldn't have been worse for Daley with the recent Strikeforce cage brawl after the Jake Shields fight with Dan Henderson. The UFC want to send a message about how much more professional they are and I think that Daley has been used to prove the point, which isn't fair.
If it was a case such as Babalu being cut for holding a choke, then I would understand a bit more. But it's not like Daley's cheap shot but Koscheck in danger of being seriously hurt.
RG - Daley's cheap shot did not put Koscheck in danger, but let's just pretend for a moment that Daley KOd Kos with that punch after the bell. What would you be saying then? Just because it didn't hurt Kos doesn't mean that Daley should be let off the hook.
As far as being cut goes, I feel it was a little excessive but warranted none the less. I would have been fine with a suspension and a fine but I understand why Daley was cut. Does that make Daley a bit of a scapegoat? Sure, but after what took place after the Shields-Henderson fight all these guys should have known full well that their post fight actions would be under the microscope.
It may not be fair but Daley made his bed and now he must lie in it.
GP - I know what you're saying there Robert. Defending Daley in this situation is incredibly difficult and I am finding it harder and harder.
I was and still am a big Daley fan, but his actions at UFC 113 has left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths, including mine. For a guy to fight for so long to make it to the big league and win impressively when he gets there but to throw it all away is unbelievable.
I think I am finally settling on my opinion. I agree with you Robert, Daley was wrong to do what he did but for him to be cut is harsh and I think he has been made an example of. Is it fair to Daley? In all likelihood no, but life isn't fair and as you said every fighter knows where the line is and Daley clearly crossed it.
RG - Great Debate man. I don't have anything else other then what I've already said.
GP - Thanks for joining me today Robert. Well as I said at the top of this article, this is a subject that will have MMA observers talking for a long time to come.
Hope you enjoyed the debate folks and myself and Robert would love to continue the discussion with the rest of the B/R community.
Like the new article format? Send us feedback!