What in the Favre Is Going On in Green Bay?
Derek Lofland, from Football Maniaxs.com
The retirement that just won’t seem to go away has taken a strange turn of events over the last week.
Brett Favre has now decided that he would like his helmet or his unconditional release so that he may resume his career with someone other than the Green Bay Packers.
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I have wanted to post something about this article for about a week, but I wanted to wait for Favre’s interview with Greta Van Susteren to finish airing so that I could write the article having heard both sides of the story.
This is a difficult topic for me to address objectively. While I know more about the Packers than any other team, Brett Favre is just about the only quarterback I have ever seen start for the Green Bay Packers.
I started following the NFL during the 1989 season. Having grown up in Wisconsin, it doesn’t take a great leap of logic to figure out that the Packers would be the team I ended up following. While I am well educated in the Lambeau and Lombardi eras, I wasn‘t born yet.
Favre became the starter just three seasons after I started watching football. He has been my favorite player on my favorite team for about as long as I have been following the NFL. Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers have had a very interesting marriage over the years.
The Packers have won more games than any team in the NFL, since he took his first snap, 160 wins to be exact. He has set just about every career NFL passing-record, good and bad, that a quarterback could hope to set.
He has won three consecutive MVP awards from 1995-1997. In the process, he became not just a popular NFL quarterback, but also an American icon. Other than Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods, he is as popular as any athlete of his generation.
He also has had his negatives. Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods are not only popular, but are two of the biggest champions in the history of professional sports. The Packers have won only one Super Bowl in Favre’s career, which was back in 1996.
A large part of that can be attributed to a declining defense that began when Reggie White left the team in 1998. The Packers have had very few quality defenses since then. Still, Brett Favre does not entirely escape blame.
Many of his 288 career interceptions have come in the second half of his career. He had a six-interception playoff game against the Rams in 2001 and a four-interception playoff game against the Vikings in 2004.
He threw an interception in overtime against the Philadelphia Eagles in 2002 and against the New York Giants in 2007 that contributed to the Packers’ defeats in those playoff games.
That inconsistent play, combined with his annual retirement saga that has dominated the winter Wisconsin sports scene since 2005, has caused many Packer fans to wish that even a thing as great as Brett Favre would just come to an end. I have listened to many a postgame show on the Packer radio network.
Every time Brett Favre has played poorly, there is a segment of the Packer Nation that has called for him to be replaced. It does not surprise me that the Packer Nation is so divided now that this latest twist has materialized. Many outsiders believe that Packer fans are in 100 percent support of Favre. That has not been the case for many years.
To all the Packer fans that want to go on with Aaron Rodgers for whatever reason, I would make this simple point: Since 1996, there have been only eight franchises out of 32 that have even won a Super Bowl.
Since 1996, Favre has led the Packers to one Super Bowl appearance, two NFC Championship Games, where the Packers went 1-1, and four divisional round games where the Packers went 2-2.
While that may seem disappointing to you, it is better than most of the teams in the NFL. Go complain to Cincinnati and Arizona fans about your poor fortune.
While it may be annoying to go through this soap opera every year what is even more annoying is not knowing which bad quarterback you are going to go with year in and year out.
Talk to your favorite Bear fan. Ask him or her how it feels to debate between Cade McNown, Jim Miller, Kordell Stewart, Chad Hutchinson, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton, and Brian Griese.
Talk to your favorite Viking fan that thought Daunte Culpepper was the answer that Minnesota had been looking for all these years. Talk about how he went from historically good in 2004 to historically irrelevant by 2005 in the prime of his career.
Stop complaining about this retirement saga and how miserable it makes you. It shows how spoiled you have become by No. 4's greatness and the success it has brought the Green Bay Packers. Packer fans don’t have a right to complain about misfortunes in the Favre era when you stack the Packers up with other NFL franchises during that same period.
In fact, if you don’t believe the Bears or Vikings fans, talk to a Packer fan that watched football after the Lombardi era.
From 1968 to 1992, the Packers won exactly one playoff game, as they looked for Bart Starr’s replacement year after year. Since 1992, life has been pretty good in Green Bay. While it will be nice to one day not have to deal with this annoying retirement saga, it will be 10 times worse if the Packers spend 30 years looking for a replacement; something that is not out of the realm of possibility.
Be thankful the Packers own the rights to a future Hall of Fame quarterback. There aren’t many teams in the league that can make that claim. For the non-Packer fans, I think it is important to understand the dynamics of this situation. Neither side is totally to blame or is totally without fault.
Let’s start with the case for Brett Favre.
Ted Thompson was hired as the GM after the 2004 season. Favre was 35-years old at that time. He was coming off a season in which he started 16 games, threw for 4,088 yards, 30 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, and a 92.4 QB rating.
The Packers went 10-6 and lost at home to the Vikings 31-17. He had one touchdown pass and four picks in that home loss.
While he was dejected by the loss, and would not immediately commit to coming back, he did commit within a very short time after the playoff loss. It was nothing like we have seen the last three seasons. Ted Thompson’s first pick in his first draft was used to select Aaron Rodgers.
Favre was never impressed with that move. He wanted the Packers to win right now, and he did not see how taking a rookie QB in the first round was going to help the Packers win. The Packers were open about the fact that they wanted Favre to mentor Rodgers; something No. 4 never embraced.
His response to that was that no one mentored him, and his job was to win football games, not coach a young player. He said Rodgers should learn the same way he did: study the playbook and watch the veteran. After a 4-12 season, Mike McCarthy replaced Mike Sherman.
He had been an assistant for the Packers in 1999, but had no previous head-coaching experience. Favre had really hoped the Packers would go after Steve Mariucci, who had been Favre’s quarterbacks coach at the beginning of his career. The Packers never attempted to even interview him.
The Packers did sign Charles Woodson, but for the most part have been quiet in free agency since Thompson‘s arrival. All of these moves made it clear that Green Bay was in a full-blown rebuilding effort and cared little about Favre‘s input.
They let veterans like Ahman Green, Javon Walker, Ryan Longwell, Mike Wahle, Marco Rivera, William Henderson, Vonnie Holiday, Na’il Diggs, and countless others go. That is something that Favre was critical of Thompson for, a thought he expressed in the On the Record interview. He thought Thompson made a mistake by getting rid of Rivera and Wahle.
That became even more evident after the 2006 season.
The Packers had finished 8-8 and won their last four games of the regular season. Still, they let Ahman Green walk. Green was the best offensive weapon Favre had ever played with. Thompson failed to pull a trigger on the Randy Moss deal, something Brett Favre wanted desperately. That decision further alienated Favre.
That is where I believe things didn’t go according to plan. The Packers had never envisioned they would go 13-3 in 2007, even if they had signed Moss. They never envisioned that Jennings and Grant would make that big of an impact.
Favre was on the verge of setting records for career victories, touchdown passes, passing attempts, and yards. I believe the Packers thought he was going to have a year similar to 2006, the Packers would contend for a wild card, and Favre would ride off into the sunset as the holder of the major individual passing records with no hope for a Super Bowl run in the near future.
Instead, the Packers became one of several favorites to win the Super Bowl in 2008, coming off a 13-3 record with the youngest team in the league. Favre even stated in January that he was excited about the prospect of wanting to comeback for another year and not focusing on retirement.
Now let’s go to Ted Thompson’s point of view.
He came to the Packers after the 2004 season. He was coming to a team that had gone 44-20 in the four previous seasons.
However, they had gone 2-4 in the playoffs and had not advanced past the NFC Divisional Round. In 2003 and 2004, the team got off to very slow starts.
The 2003 team started 3-4 before finishing 10-6. The 2004 team started 1-4 before finishing 10-6.
The coaching staff and team didn‘t always appear to be on the same page. They had many aging players. The offensive line was starting to get old. Ahman Green was in decline. The Packers had a 35-year-old quarterback that was beginning to speculate about his retirement on a yearly basis.
The wheels fell off the wagon in 2005.
The team was decimated by injuries and was 4-12. The trend has been to go with young assistant coaches and not retreads. Hiring McCarthy seemed like a good fit for a rebuilding effort. Brett Favre waited until April to announce that he was returning, which made that move make even more sense. Why bring a veteran head coach into that type of rebuilding project.
Ted Thompson had nothing left to do but strip the team and start rebuilding through the draft. He did a very good job of that. Thompson drafted AJ Hawk, Greg Jennings, James Jones, James Jolly, Mason Cosby, and Nick Collins.
He rebuilt an aging offensive line, with a great infusion of young talent. He fused those young players with an older quarterback.
While bringing in Randy Moss may have made his 37-year-old quarterback happy, it could have brought a declining locker room cancer into a young team that would have had disastrous consequences, not only in 2007, but also for years to come.
Even though Moss’s 2007 season proved Favre right about Moss, Ted Thompson had no way of knowing that Randy Moss would not come to Green Bay and be a locker-room disaster and spoil a promising young team.
Ted Thompson has built a very strong nucleus, and is a superstar young quarterback away from contending for Super Bowls for years to come. While he appreciates the history of the Green Bay organization, he has no loyalty to No. 4. Thompson didn’t bring him in. He inherited Favre at 35-years-old.
His bigger responsibility is to make sure the Packers are prepared to compete in the NFL not only in 2008, but also after Brett Favre is gone. Thompson’s job is not to keep a competitive team around Brett Favre for as long as he wants to play football, at the expense of the organization.
That brings us to this offseason. I have no way of knowing this, but based on all the reports that have come out, this is what I believe happened.
I think Brett Favre made a mistake by retiring early and put the Packers in a difficult position by doing so. I also think Ted Thompson has lost his mind. Let’s start with Favre.
I think the Packers told Brett Favre that if he wanted to comeback, he would be welcomed back by the organization. I also think Brett Favre was looking for more than that. I believe he wanted to hear that the Packers were appreciative of the great season he had given them and wanted to know that they were committed to him coming back.
I also think he wanted to see them make a splash in free agency to go after that second title he has always wanted. He was burned out by the way the season came to an end.
I believe that, based on the tone of the conversations Brett Favre had with management, he got the impression that the Packers were indifferent to him coming back in 2008 and wanted to only focus on the draft. They just wanted a decision one way or the other that would not drag past March.
Right or wrong, I don’t think Favre knew what he wanted to do then. Critics will say he should have known. I’m not sure that is entirely fair. Favre has brought that criticism on himself by turning his retirement into a public spectacle.
However, he has always been honest. He stated in his On the Record interview that he was never a person that would commit to doing something he didn’t know he was 100 percent behind.
Having watched him all these years, I believe that. He could have taken his $10 million and hoped that he would find his passion, which he probably would have. That isn’t in his personality, and I respect that about him.
While I am sure he enjoys making the money, he plays for much more than that. I think Favre decided that if the Packers were indifferent to him coming back, he didn’t want to be in a place he wasn’t appreciated.
I think their failure to go after Randy Moss for a second straight season sealed the deal, in his mind, and he decided that it made no sense to comeback to a place he was not appreciated and it wasn’t worth going to another team and starting over at age 38 going on 39.
Based on where he was and where he believed the Packers were, he decided to announce his retirement on Mar. 4, 2008. That retirement press conference was the most bizarre retirement press conference I have ever seen.
It did not look like there was harmony. Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy spoke at a press conference without Favre.
Favre, Wolf, and Harlan spoke the next day at the official press conference. It definitely gave the perception that it was the old guard vs. the new guard. That Brett Favre was part of the Packer’s past and that the current regime had no problem going on without him.
Then he had second thoughts.
It started with the LA Times report that Favre’s agent was gauging teams’ interest in Favre via a trade. That report gained a lot of credibility in recent weeks. Then, Favre stated he wanted to comeback about a month after he announced his retirement.
Thompson has confirmed that he and McCarthy were prepared to meet with Favre in late March, because Favre was interested in rescinding his retirement. Brett cancelled the meeting. It is reported that he told Thompson and McCarthy that he had changed his mind and instead wanted to stay retired.
I get all that.
While it is unfortunate that Favre has put the Packers in this situation, I can’t believe they are surprised this happened. McCarthy even stated that as football season got closer, Favre would probably get the itch to play.
Troy Aikman thought he could probably play again. While I think many people were hopeful that a change of mind would not happen, I can’t believe anyone is absolutely floored that all these events transpired.
Seeing the Packers know Brett Favre and how emotional he can be about his football career, and his tendency to be uncertain about his retirement, I can‘t understand why they weren‘t better prepared for this very scenario unfolding.
The only thing I am confused about with Favre is this assistant coach talk. When Thompson was asked what role Favre would be coming back in and whether that role might be as a backup or coach, Thompson said, "Not a coach." McCarthy added: "He did ask about that, though."
If that is true, I don’t understand it. How is that being 100 percent committed to coming back as the starter of the Packers? How can you say that you are committed, and then inquire about an assistant-coaching role in the same conversation?
If that report is true, Favre is behaving like someone that has absolutely no clue what he wants to do right now, something that did not come across in his On the Record interview on Monday. Based on that interview, he wants to play. If No. 4 didn’t say that, it is pretty shameful that McCarthy would make that up.
Then there is Thompson.
He told the AP, ““We’ve communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward,” Saturday, in his first public comments since Favre requested to be released this week. “At the same time, we have never said that there couldn’t be some role that he might be used in. But I would understand his point that he would want to play.”
Then he told ESPN News Services, “It's not accurate," Thompson said of the AP report that Favre would come back as a backup. “We don't know what role that would be. He can come back as an active member of the Green Bay Packers."
I don’t know which statement is more stupid. I will go with the comment to ESPN. You don’t know what role he would come back in? Is he going to play safety? Maybe he can punt? That’s insulting. The only role he could come back in as a quarterback and Thompson knows that.
That leads to the second comment.
Do you really think that a player who has played 253-consecutive regular season games would make for a good backup? Is that really a situation that would be good for the Packers? Is that going to protect the legacy of Brett Favre? Is that going to help develop Rodgers?
Playing stupid isn’t fooling anyone, something that Thompson has shown a tendency to do over the years. Be a leader. Pick a position or state that you don’t have one and need to speak to Favre’s camp and gather more information to formulate a position.
However, don’t give multiple, foolish, contradicting comments. That makes Thompson look foolish and insincere. His tendency to do that is one reason that he is very unpopular with a segment of the Packer Nation, despite his other successes as a GM.
I think that there has been a breakdown in communication that has been caused by both sides’ distrust of the other. Because of that distrust, you are getting these conflicting positions.
I believe they both want to do the right thing, but they don’t trust the other to follow through with his end of the bargain. Regardless of whom you ultimately blame, this is a difficult position for both Favre and the Packers.
Many people have compared this situation to the Joe Montana/Steve Young saga that engulfed the Bay area in 1993. The only thing that is similar is the distrust between Joe Montana and the 49ers organization. He too wanted his starting job or to be released.
The 49ers kept flip-flopping on what they wanted to do. The 49ers tried promising the starting position to both players. Otherwise, there are very few similarities.
Let’s start with Favre.
Favre is coming off a season where he started 16 games, threw for 4,155 yards, 28 touchdown passes, and had a 95.7 rating. Montana missed the 1991 season and played the second half of the Detroit game in the last week of the 1992 season.
While he had been a NFL MVP in 1989 and 1990, he had 126 yards passing and two touchdowns in 1991 and 1992 combined. Joe Montana was every bit the same legend in San Francisco that Brett Favre is in Green Bay. Montana was a 36-year-old quarterback going on 37-years old that had played one-half of a football game in two seasons.
Brett Favre was second in the MVP voting for the NFL in 2007.
Then there is Steve Young versus Aaron Rodgers. Steve Young started 11 games in 1991 and 16 games in 1992. He won the NFL MVP in 1992 with a 107.0 QB rating. He had 25 touchdown passes to seven picks and had 3,465 passing yards.
Steve Young had 42 touchdown passes in 1991 and 1992. Aaron Rodgers had 59 pass attempts over the last three seasons. He has 329 career passing yards and one touchdown pass in seven career games, none of which were starts.
When the 49ers had to decide whether to get rid of Steve Young or Joe Montana, they had to choose between keeping a three-time Super Bowl MVP and a two-time NFL MVP that had played one half of a football game in the previous two seasons versus the reigning MVP of the NFL. That is a pretty nice problem.
The Packers have to decide whether to go with a quarterback that hasn’t missed a start in 16 seasons, and was second in the MVP race last year, or a guy that has shown injury tendencies as a backup playing portions of seven games over the past three seasons.
Brett Favre and Joe Montana couldn’t be more different. Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers couldn’t be more different.
The teams were also very different. The 49ers did a nice job retooling after 1984 and had a new cast of players in place by 1988 and 1989. By 1993, they had many veteran skill-position players. Jerry Rice is widely considered the best receiver in the history of the NFL. He was in his prime.
John Taylor was a solid No. 2 guy. Brent Jones was a solid tight end. Tom Rathman was a capable fullback. Ricky Waters was being worked into the lineup as the starting running back to replace Roger Craig. They knew those players could succeed with Young or Montana.
The Packers have a proven commodity in Donald Driver that has played with no one other that Brett Favre. Everyone else on the offense is young and unproven. It is possible that Brett Favre was made to look better than he was because of their development. It is more likely that Brett Favre made them look better than they actually were.
We need to see more to make final determinations on Greg Jennings, James Jones, Donald Lee, and Ryan Grant. We need to see if the offensive line was really that good or if Brett Favre’s quick release masked some of the deficiencies in the offensive line.
Brett Favre has a history of elevating average players in Green Bay. Research Bill Schroeder and Tyrone Davis if you need further convincing.
The fact is that I cannot convince anyone that Aaron Rodgers is good or bad. On the good side, he has shown progress each preseason. Brett Favre has a good history of grooming backup quarterbacks that have gone on to be good NFL starters.
Aaron Brooks, Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck, and Kurt Warner all spent time behind Favre. Rodgers looked especially good in the Dallas game, where he threw for 201 yards and posted a 104.8 rating. On the bad side, he played at California for Jeff Tedford. Tedford has groomed the following NFL quarterbacks in college: Trent Dilfer, Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Kyle Boller, Billy Volek, and A.J. Feeley.
That isn’t exactly an All-Star cast of NFL quarterbacks.
Also, the Pac 10 hasn’t exactly been great for NFL quarterbacks in recent years. Carson Palmer is about the only first-round pick out of the Pac 10 in recent seasons that has panned out.
Another concern is Rodgers’ injury problems. He filled in for Brett Favre in a blowout loss to the Patriots in 2006. He broke his ankle and was out for the remainder of the season. In 2007, he filled in for Favre in the Dallas loss. He proceeded to pull a hamstring in practice with Favre questionable that week.
The Packers had to sign Craig Knoll to backup Favre for the remaining games in the 2007 season, as Rodgers was unable to practice or play. The fear is that you could release or trade Favre and three games later need him back because Rodgers has gotten injured in the meantime.
It is never good to have injury concerns as a backup. To have them as Favre’s backup is especially concerning. If the Packers were that sold on Rodgers, they wouldn’t have drafted two quarterbacks in the 2008 NFL draft, including the use of their second pick on Brian Brohm from Louisville.
While there is a lot to be hopeful for there is also a lot to be weary of. That is a big gamble when you have No. 4 ready to comeback to the team, which is one of the most proven commodities in the history of professional sports.
Suggesting that Favre’s only option at this point is to backup Rodgers is beyond comprehension. Then, to deny it and say that you are trying to find a role for him with the team is equally insulting. I don’t believe Packer management did everything in their power to encourage Brett Favre to comeback.
I think they alienated the Favre camp to the point where he didn’t want to continue his career there. In February, that meant retiring. Now, it means possibly playing for another team if they don‘t make amends.
Ted Thompson is the GM of the Packers. His job is to bring in good players and keep the ones that he has happy. While you can’t please everyone, Brett Favre does not have a history of being a difficult player. He is not a T.O.-type personality. He is a popular with his teammates and plays hard no matter the team’s record or situation.
Thompson may not be warm to the idea, but he has the burden of trying to make this work. While he can’t keep everyone happy, his job is not to drive away the best player in the history of this storied franchise. I understand that he went to Mississippi in both 2005 and 2008 to talk Favre out of retiring.
I am not accusing Thompson of deliberately trying to run Favre out of town. While it is debatable how much he did to drive away Favre, I also think it is clear he did the bare minimum to encourage him to stay.
The Packers have only two courses of action.
Their best course of action is to try to repair the wounds and bring Brett Favre back in 2008. While that does create complications, particularly with regards to Aaron Rodgers, it is the best answer to a no-win situation. The Packers’ best chance to win a Super Bowl is the chance in front of them.
Brett Favre gives the Packers a better chance than Aaron Rodgers to win a Super Bowl in 2008. If there is a way to bring Favre back and keep harmony between the key people in the organization, they should do that. People are taught to put aside their egos and do what is best for the organization.
Brett Favre’s best chance to win in 2008 is in Green Bay, and Green Bay’s best chance to win is with Brett Favre.
Neither party has been perfect, and both have legitimate grievances with the other. Neither should let pride get in the way of winning. They should both do what is best for the football team. Not every player will agree with all the decisions the Packers make.
However, the players will respect an organization that puts them in the best possible position to win. Al Harris already went on NFL Network and said he would like to play with Favre in 2008.
That is a leader of the football team, and many of the other veteran players probably share his opinion. If the players feel their leader was driven out of town for someone that was not as good, they will resent that far more than if Aaron Rodgers wasn’t treated perfectly.
Aaron Rodgers hasn’t earned enough credibility in the NFL to warrant anything other than his paycheck. While he has been put in a tough situation, that is everyday life for an unproven player in the NFL.
If there is no way the Packers can bring Favre back, or if Favre has no desire to comeback, than they need to trade him before the start of training camp. If they don’t, Green Bay’s training camp will have media attention 10 times that of the Eagle’s training camp in 2005 with T.O. vs. McNabb.
You can’t have that circus with a starting quarterback that has thrown 59 career passes.
However, they can’t just release Favre. The Bears are a quarterback away from contending for the playoffs, and the Vikings are a quarterback away from contending for the Super Bowl. It would be football suicide to allow him to go to one of your biggest rivals and have that rival win a Super Bowl.
Furthermore, you can’t just keep his rights and hope for the right offer to come around or for Favre to just go away. Even if he isn’t on the opening-day roster, the speculation will roar the first time Rodgers has a bad series that the Packers should activate Brett Favre. Rodgers can’t succeed if Favre is his backup, nor can he succeed if he is lurking in the shadows waiting for him to fail.
If the Packers give Rodgers the job, Rodgers needs to be confident that the job is his. It took Favre over two seasons to begin playing consistent MVP football. Rodgers needs to be afforded the time to grow in a positive environment.
Brett Favre has given years of outstanding service. He should be afforded the opportunity to continue his career elsewhere and not be a hostage in a bad situation, especially if the team no longer wants to start him.
Ted Thompson may not want to go down as the guy that drove Brett Favre out of Green Bay. However, it would be far worse to be the guy that drove him out of the game. If it is not possible to bring Favre back, deal him somewhere else quickly and let him become someone else’s dilemma.
Deal him before the situation alienates Packers fans to the point where they are mad at the organization, or to the point where Favre is not welcome in Lambeau Field.
It is important that after Favre really does retire, that he can resume being an ambassador for the Packers. You want his Hall of Fame ceremony to be a Packer celebration, not a bittersweet symphony. Similar to what the 49ers did with Montana, the Packers have to trade him somewhere that he isn’t going to be threatening.
The Chiefs, Jets, and Ravens would seem to make the most sense in the AFC. The Bucs, Panthers, and Redskins could make sense in the NFC.
All have been in the playoffs within the last two seasons, with the exception of the Panthers. All have veteran teams whose window seems to be closing. All lack a dominant signal caller that can take them into contention.
Favre could be the piece that puts them in contention. I find it impossible to believe that with so many teams needing good quarterbacks that the Packers could not quickly make that deal.
It would be a shame, because an athlete like Brett Favre comes around once in a lifetime. He became a household name as a Packer, and he should have retired a Packer. However, what should happen and does happen are often two different things.
Jerry Rice played his last game in a Seahawk uniform. Unitas gave it a try as a Charger. Montana retired a Chief. All are remembered fondly for the teams they made their names with.
Even if Favre ends his career with another team, he will always be remembered as the greatest and most popular player in the history of the Packer franchise. Playing somewhere else for a year or two will not change that.
My hope is that they can work this out so that my favorite player can continue to play for my favorite franchise. If not, I will have two favorite teams in 2008. It won’t be as much fun for me to root for the Packers without Favre, but I am not going to disown my favorite team.
I want to remember Favre for his great years in Green Bay, and hating the franchise will not help me do that. If Favre is traded, his new team will also become my favorite team. I will root for that team to succeed as well.
The Packers and Favre are very special. They are institutions in NFL history. There is no reason that either should be disliked because they combined to make a difficult situation impossible.
While making amends would be the most desirable, sometimes moving on is the only solution. Whatever they decide, they need to do it quickly. It is already a gigantic mess.
The longer this goes on, the messier it is going to become. That is not good for anyone. There will be no winners and only a lot of losers.

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