I have been working on these rankings for a while trying to get them completely right.
So check them out and I woulds like to hear your views on the list.
This should be a good debate starter.
But if there is one condition on this list you have to have pitched in the 20th century and or the 21st century.
Sorry Pud Galvin and Tim Keefe.
I love to hear what you guys think.
And please excuse any grammar mistakes.
Hall of Famer Ted Lyon he on this list, he will forever be known for his ability to go deep into ball games.
A couple of things hurt him on this list, he was only 30 games above .500% and he was only 30 games over .500% in a era were sometimes the league average .BA was .230.
Former Yankee ace Mel Stottlemyre makes the list, at first glance you look at the record and you say " Whats so special about him?".
Well he pitched for horrible Yankee teams evident by the fact in his 11 seasons he made the postseason once, but he had a career ERA under 3.00.
One season he had a solid 3.80 ERA but lost 20 games that's how bad those Yankee teams were.
He was a 20 game winner 3 times, had 10+ CG 9 times and 9 times had over 200 IP before he retired.
One of the better righties in the '60s and '70s makes the list.
Tiant had a decent K/BB ratio of 2.19 and was never that overpowering on the mound but a artist on the mound no doubt.
5 times in a 19 seasons career he had a ERA under 3.00, 8 times he had over 10 CG, 8 times he topped 200 innings and 4 times he won 20+ games in a season.
David Cone was one of my favorite players of all time because he wasn't a superstar but a guy that just went out there and did his job well and well enough to land him on No. 41.
One stat about Cone that I found remarkable was that he never posted a ERA higher then 4.00 in any full season until he was 37.
He was a 17+ game winner 4 times and was one of his eras premiere strikeout pitchers as he K'd 190+ batters 9 times .
He started his career of slow but he found a groove in his prime, Curt Schilling is at No. 40.
Curt was a reliever at the beginning of his career but when he converted to a starter that's were he would find his success.
Posting 15+ Wins 8 times, with 6 All Star Selections, 8 seasons of 190+ K seasons, 3 2nd place finishes in Cy Young voting and who can forget the 3,000 K's
Home grown Phillie Robin Roberts comes in at No. 39.
From 1950 to 1955 Roberts was the man averaging 23 Wins, a 2.93 ERA, 322 IP, 26 CG and 160 K's every year.
A lot of people criticized Roberts about his ability to give up the long ball and it's true he was HR prone.
12 times in a 19 year career he surrendered over 20 HR but people forget that this is a guy that never walked more then 77 batters in a single season so if you stay around the plate you will get taken deep.
Cleveland great Bob Lemon is at 38, he was underrated during his time but very very good.
Lemon never posted a ERA higher then 4.00 until he was 36, he had at least 20 CG 7 times in a 13 year career and won 20+ Games Seven times.
He never got his due because he pitched on a staff that had all time great Bob Feller on it.
Hall of Famer Red Faber is at No. 37, he spent his entire career with the White Sox.
Faber never put a ERA in the 4.00's until he was 38.
Red led the league in ERA twice, CG twice and WHIP twice.
18 times in a 20 year career he would put up a ERA under 4.00 and never gave up more then 11 HR in any season.
Before Jim Bunning was a Senator he was a baseball player and a dam good one.
The former pitcher had eight seasons of 190+ K's, only had 3 seasons of a ERA higher then 4.00 and 2 of those seasons came at ages 38 and 39 and the other one coming at age 23.
10 times he logged 10+ CG and 13 times he posted 200+ innings.
He pitched on bad teams, how bad ? He never pitched a single postseason inning but he did have nine All-Star Selections.
Fireballer Kevin Brown is at No. 35, Brown was under the radar in his era but real good.
Brown pitched for six different teams in his 19 season career.
Brown 14 times in 19 year career he put up a ERA lower then 4.00. 6 times he put up 15+ Wins and 9 times he put up 200 innings.
The guy with the greatest curveball EVER comes in at number 34.
Blyleven has been cheated out of the title Hall of Famer but his stats prove he should be in the HOF.
Stats like 10 seasons with a ERA in the 2.00's in a long 22 year career, 7 times he won 17+ Games and 8 times topped 200+ K's.
Starter / closer Dennis Eckersly is at No. 33.
He was a good solid starter and a great closer.
As a starter eight times in a 11 season career he put up a ERA under 4.00 and came in the top 10 in Cy Young voting twice.
As a closer he was great in 12 seasons as a closer he had 8 30+ Save seasons and came in the top ten in Cy Young voting 4 times.
"The Moose" Mike Mussina is at No. 32, I think he is a Hall of Famer.
In his impressive career he was 100 games over .500% and a AL record 17 consecutive seasons of 10+ Wins.
Moose had as good as control as anyone in his prime K/BB ratio of 5.10.
Not to mention 11 times in a 18 season career he topped over 200 innings.
One of the most intimidating pitchers of his era comes in at 31.
He played 23 seasons so he some what compiled those 300 Wins but regardless this is a guy that had a solid career ERA of 3.54.
He won 20+ games four times, seven times he put up a ERA under 3.00, 14 times pitched 200+ innings and eight times he received a MVP vote.
Knuckballer Phil Niekro comes in at No. 30, he is one the few pitchers that has 300 Wins and 3,000 K's.
The knuckballer pitched from when he was 25-48 during that span he was a 5x All Star, 7 times he put up a ERA over 3.00, 3 times pitched 300+ innings and won 20+ Games 3 times.
All time K King Nolan Ryan is at No. 29.
This freak topped 300 innings three times and 14 times cracked 200 innings.
Nolan Ryan was as big as a arm as you get, from ages 37-45 he had eight consecutive 190 + K seasons.
The things that hurt Ryan on the list was he never won a Cy Young, he almost lost 300 games, he had 11 100+ BB seasons and anyone that remembers Ryan knows that he couldn't be trusted in a big game.
It was a short but a dominant reign for Dizzy Dean, the Hall of Fame right- hander is at No. 28.
His arm was done by age 28 but he was dominant, his first full season came at age 22 and he started his career out with four strikeout titles.
From ages 22 to 28 he would win 18+ games five times and placed in the top ten in MVP voting four times.
Not to mention a very impressive 644% Winning Percentage.
Hall of Famer Vic Willis is at No. 27, he was a true work horse in his day eight times in a 13 season career he topped 300 innings.
Willis was mainly known for his time with the Boston Beaneaters and Pirates.
He won 20+ games eight times in a 13 year career he would have been higher if he had pitched longer he retired when he was only 34.
One of the most consistent pitchers in the game is at No. 26.
Roy has been a beast for the Astros, in nine seasons he has won 15+ games five times. Not to mention back to back 20 Win seasons in '04 and '05.
He has been durable as well with six 200 innings seasons.
He has okay control with career high being 62.
And has been a Cy Young contender placing in the top five in voting five times.
Doc Halladay comes in at No. 25, in a era were managers don't allow pitchers to go deep into games Halladay has been amazing.
In this era Doc has two seasons of 9 CG, 3 seasons of 240 IPand 2 20+ Wins seasons.
Halladay has had 1 bad season when he was 23 and had a ERA over 10.00 but if you cut that season out he actually has a career ERA of 3.21.
He was a part of the infamous Black Sox Scandal but was a pretty good pitcher.
He won 20+ games three times, five times had a ERA in the 1.00's in 14 seasons, had a WHIP under 1.00 twice and never gave up more then 6 HR in a season.
But his part in the White Sox throwing away the World Series to the Reds will never allow him to be a Hall of Famer, if he hadn't cheated the game there's no doubt he would have been an all time great.
"Three Finger" Mordecai Brown is at No. 23, he threw his career had to pitch with the obviously three fingers.
He spent his career mostly with the Cubs and wow what a career he would have.
Five times he would win 20+ games, 6 times he would have a ERA in 1.00, he would never have a ERA of 4.00 and 11 times threw 200 innings all in a 14 season career.
He would begin his career at age 26 and would end up 100 games over .500%.
One of the best pitchers in the '60s and '70s makes this list at No. 22.
In his prime he combined both a powerful fastball with as good as control as you will find, as a 28 year old Fergie had a K/BB ratio of 7.11 on route to a Cy Young Award.
And oh yeah as far as that power fastball well 7 times he K'd 180+ batters in a 19 season career.
He played on bad teams ( never pitched in Postseason) but almost got 300 Wins.
One half of the greatest one-two punch of all time comes in at No. 21.
From ages 24-30 he had six straight seasons of 38+ starts, not to mention in14 seasons 11 times he had 13+ Wins, he was a 8x All Star ,pitched over 300 innings 3 times and 7 times K'd over 190 batters.
His arm was done at age 32 but he was dominant.
The all time saves leader comes in at No. 20.
Hoffman has been arguably second only to Mariano, his consistency has allowed him to keep pitching even into his 40's.
In 17 seasons Hoffman has put up a ERA above 3.00 only three times while putting together a record 13 30 save seasons.
"Iron Man" Joe McGinnity come in at No. 18.
They called him iron man because of his ability to pitch double headers.
McGinnity only pitched 10 seasons but the man was a 20+ game winner 7 times, the highest ERA he ever posted was 3.54 and 9 times he pitched over 300 innings.
He was awesome.
The best name EVER, Catfish Hunter breaks the top 20.
This 8x All Star placed in the top 5 of Cy Young voting 4 times and in MVP voting 5 times.
7 times he won 17+ games, 11 times in a 15 season career he put up a ERA under 4.00, 9 times he had over 10 CG, 10 times cracked 200 innings and his highest BB/9 ratio was 3.3/9 and that came as a 20 year old.
He wasn't a bad fisher either.
His durability allowed him to pitch for 23 seasons, the pitching version of Bobby Abreu is at No. 17.
He was never a fireballer but he managed to K 200+ batters 5 times on good control, a remarkable 12 times he won 15+ games, only 3 times had a ERA above 4.00, a amazing 20 times topped 200 innings, 22 times he pitched in at least 30 Games and 10 times saved the bullpen with 10+ CG.
He was a 4x All Star and finished 5 times in the top 5 in Cy Young voting.
He pitched for teams that didn't have great he lost 15 Games once while having a 2.60 ERA.
Future Hall of Famer John Smoltz is at No. 16, he has been one of the valuable pitchers of our era.
He had the best stuff out of the Atlanta big 3 rotation this is evident by the fact that 5 times in 16 full seasons as a starter he K'd 200+ batters, as a starter he put up a ERA above 4.00 twice and 10 times pitched 200 innings.
As a closer he had 3 40 SV seasons and was a two-time All Star.
He has won a Cy Young Award, was a 8x All Star and in the Postseason is 15-4.
Gaylord Perry threw his career was very consistent and he is the very few guys that took his prime into his upper 30's.
From ages 27-42 he put together 16 straight years of a ERA under 4.00, 16 straight years of at least 200 innings pitched, during that span he had 5 All Star Selections, 5 top 10 Cy Young finishes, 2 Cy Youngs, 6 times he received at least 1 MVP vote, 13 times he won 15+ Games and 8 times topped 200 K's.
All time great " Rapid Robert" Bob Feller comes in at No. 14, this dude was your modern day Albert Pujols, only as a pitcher.
Perhaps no one in the history of the game had more movement on their pitches then Bob.
Feller would achieve the 20 Wins mark 6 times on bad Indian teams, 3 times in a 18 season career he would have a ERA above 4.00, 6 times he would have 20+ CG, 10 times he would pitch 200+ innings, 7 times would lead the league in K's and would end his career 100 games over .500% on bad teams.
He was a 8x All Star and even finished top ten in MVP voting 6 times.
If I am a manager and there is a big game I want this guy right here Bob Gibson pitching it for me with that remarkable 7-2 record in the Postseason.
In his HOF career Gibson would win 15+ Games 10 times, he would only have a ERA above 4.00 2 times, 13 times would have 10+ CG, 12 times topped 200 innings and 9 times cracked 200 K's.
Not to mention would be a 8 time All Star, 2 time Cy Young Winner, 9 time Gold Glover and even have a MVP.
Oriole great Jim Palmer is at No. 12.
With his 638% Winning Percentage he is one of the most successful pitchers of all time.
His 12 15+ Win seasons are very impressive, he had 4 300 inning seasons, he was never overpowering but did get to 180+ K's 5 times.
He never pitched on very bad Oriole teams and in the Postseason he did go 8-3.
He won 3 Cy Youngs, 6 All Star Selections, 4 Gold Gloves and 8 times he got a MVP vote.
The "Dominican Dandy" Juan Marichal is at 11.
Six times he won 20+ Games, in a 16 seasons nine times he put a ERA under 3.00, five times he threw 20+ CG, 11 times he pitched 200 innings, he was 100 games over .500% and 6x had 200K seasons.
He was also a 9x All Star, 7 times he got a MVP vote and didn't pitch on very good teams.
A short but remarkable career for Ed Walsh lands him on the top 10.
He has the lowest ERA all time.
He truly was amazing in a 14 seasons he had a ERA under 2.00 6 times, 4 times he won 20+ Games, 7 times he had over 20 CG, 5 times topped 200 K's, never posted a ERA above 3.50 and placed in the top 3 in MVP voting 2 times.
He has made his entire career off one pitch and well that one pitch will put him in the HOF.
He has been the model of consistency for the closer position with 13 30 SV season, nine seasons of a ERA under 2.00, 7 seasons of a WHIP under 1.00 and not to mention a ERA under 1.00 in the Post Season.
He has been a All Star Selection 10 times, 5 times finished in the top 5 in Cy Young voting and 4 World Championships.
Maybe no pitcher was more dominant in his prime Pedro Martinez is at No. 8.
He pitched in a era were hitters were juicing and he still won 3 Cy Youngs. Plus is over 100 Games over .500%.
Seven times he won 15+ Games, 10 times he put up a ERA udner 3.00, 9 times he topped 200 K's, 6 times he had a WHIP under 1.00 5 of those times as a starter, 7 times he topped 200 innings and 8 All Star Selections.
His stats would be much better if he had been a starter early on in his career and if he got hurt less in Boston.
Maybe no other pitcher carried his prime so late in his career.
He has the best control then any other pitcher I have ever seen.
His easy mechanics allowed him to pitch for 23 seasons and have 18 seasons of at least 200 innings pitched.
18 times he would win 15+ Games, 6 times he would K 190+ batters, 7 times he would have a ERA in the 2.00's and would have 4 seasons of a WHIP under 1.00.
He would also have 8 All Star Selections, 4 Cy Young Awards and 18 Gold Gloves.
"The Rocket " Roger Clemens is at No. 6.
He is probably our eras best pitcher and you really can't dispute it when you look at these stats.
12 times he won 15+ Games, 12 times in a 24 season career he had a ERA of 2.00, 15 times he threw 200 innings and 12 times K'd 200+ batters.
He won 7 Cy Youngs, 11 All Star Selections, a AL MVP and 2 Championships.
He pitched in the 19th Century but a lot of his success came in the 20th Century.
12 seasons in the 20th Century he won 244 Games, he had 9 seasons of 18+ Wins, 7 seasons of 300 innings, 9 seasons of a ERA under 3.00, 6 seasons of a WHIP under 1.00, 2 seasons of 40+ CG and 2 200 K seasons.
Grover comes in at No. 4.
In his rookie year he won 28 Games and that would pretty much be what his career would be like. 15 times he won 15+ Games, 9 times he topped 300 innings, 6 times he led the league in K's, 4 times he had a WHIP under 1.00 and 6 times he had a ERA under 2.00.
Six times he got a MVP vote.
All Time great Tom Seaver is at No. 3.
This Hall of Famer had 12 All Star Selections, 3 Cy Young Awards and 5 top 10 MVP finishes,
He had 13 15+ Win seasons ( would have 14 but a season was strike shortened ), he had 15 straight seasons of a ERA under 4.00, 5 times led the league in K's, 4 times had a WHIP under 1.00, 5 20+ Win seasons and 13 10+ CG seasons.
Here it is folks Christy Mathewson is your second greatest right-hander of ALL TIME.
In 17 seasons he led the league in Wins 4 times, 5 times led the league in ERA, 5 times led the league in K's and 4 times led the league in WHIP.
13 times he won 20+ Games, 12 times he had a ERA under 2.30, 11 times topped 300 innings, 4 times had a WHIP under 1.00, 14 times had 20+ CG and 5 times had 200+ K's.
"The Big Train" Walter Johnson is you greatest right-hander of ALL TIME.
He led the league in Wins 6 times, 5 times led the league in ERA, 12 times he led the league in K's, 6 times he led the league in WHIP and 6 times led the league in CG.
12 times he won 20+ Games, 11 times had a ERA in the 1.00's and 7 times had 200+ K's.
Oh yeah did I forget to mention two MVP's.