I was not too happy with this pick, but there was some reasoning to back up why the Oakland Raiders picked RB Darren McFadden over DT Glenn Dorsey.
1. Darren McFadden is definitely a play-maker
Al Davis simply can't avoid these type of players. He's like a magnet to them. The Raiders want to see those highlights McFadden put on at Arkansas in the NFL, except with silver and black.
2. Temptation
Yes, coach Lane Kiffin might've said he didn't want to draft Darren, but temptation exploded out of him. For Kiffen and Davis there was no way to overcome this temptation. So they did the only thing they they could do, they drafted him.
3. So the Chiefs couldn't!
This reasoning is a "what if?"
What if the rivals from Kansas City drafted this play-maker. Then the Oakland Raiders would have to face McFadden twice a year. I think Al Davis would rather die than do that.
4. Getting help for Russell
It has been said that in silver and black, Darren Mcfadden will help Jamarcus Russell. All I can say to this is "hopefully."
5. Need
Maybe they thought, "with two shut down CBs, and good LBs, we shouldn't have a problem on the run defense." Running back is still a position of need. Well, that's good enough for me!
Please share your opinion in the comment section. Hopefully this year will be a good one, and the Raider Nation will rise!
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about 1 month ago
Glenn Dorsey is what they needed. McFadden is what they wanted.
about 1 month ago
Dorsey is a Three- tech defensive tackle, we need a Nose Tackle let K.C. work with this project for the next year or two, while Run Dmc is playing probowls
about 1 month ago
here we go again.....
my friend,
we all know why the raiders drafted DMC. its been well documented in print and video by none other than lane kiffin himself. so u get the bright idea to write an article explaining why we drafted the best player in the draft, a whole month AFTER said draft took place. and u do so with logic weaker than a bob dole handshake.
my personal favorite is number 3: u ever heard of larry johnson? he plays for the chiefs. he's pretty good. do i need to connect the dots for u??? i'm laughing so hard right now my sides hurt
and you really shine with #5: Maybe they thought, "with two shut down CBs, and good LBs, we shouldn't have a problem on the run defense."
or maybe they thought "we don't need a good defensive line to stop the run"...lol...even the raider coaches aren't that stupid. once we signed tommy kelly, EVERYBODY knew dorsey was not an option. run defense remains a problem and THE RAIDERS KNOW THAT!!!...unfortunately for us, drafting both a run stopper AND a runner with one pick is impossible. they made the right choice. we don't need ur play skool "my first attempt at putting together a cogent thought regarding my beloved raiders" blog to tell us that.
please stop writing about my team.
from about 1 month ago
Dude, chill out. Your argument about point number 3 is totally bogus, and here's why: as you may recall, there used to be this running back in KC named Priest Holmes. He was pretty good, but the Chiefs still used their 2003 first round pick on Larry Johnson, despite the fact that Holmes had rushed for over 1600 yards and 21 touchdowns the previous year. It's not that inconceivable to think about the Chiefs drafting another back in the first round, especially considering that Johnson missed half the year last year and will turn 29 in November.
Just because you disagree with his points doesn't mean you have to rip on his article. It's "his" team just as much as it is "your" team. He's just saying what he thinks.
about 1 month ago
Wrong on just about all 5
about 1 month ago
You should have added one more reason to this and made it 6 or taken one out, such as temptation because it could easily fall under the play maker reason, and replaced it with "We payed Tommy Kelly" and Al did pay him to play the 3 technique DT postion that Glenn Dorsey was best suited for.
about 1 month ago
How is that "fans" like this guy still can't figure out how to spell KIFFIN (not Kiffen!) I agree with RaiderSteve re Fargas. He will be a good mentor for McFadden/Bush, but he will get hurt at some point and he is getting older. A McFadden/Bush combined with Russell is a good foundation for years to come (and all reports re Bush are that he is 100% healthy and looks like a bruiser). McFadden is not going to be a 20-30 carry back, so we are going to need two good backs to change things up and carry the load. We may still have some run-stopping issues, but you can't fix everything in one year (and yes, I know, this has been a problem for a while). We had to pick some area to upgrade, and we had no scoring threat on offense last year. The offense looks solidified for years to come, and the defense is young and good in the secondary. If that leaves us only the D-line to worry about, I am ok with that because that can be addressed through free agency or the draft next year.
about 1 month ago
Maybe I am in the minority here, but I am just ready to see this kid leave defenders in his wake. Who cares if we should have drafted him or not.....The fact is McFadden is here, Dorsey is not, and I am excited to see What McFadden can do in the NFL. I know for a fact we became a better team because of the draft. I personanlly hope McFadden rips a long TD off against the Broncos to win the game. Would that be sweet or what. Let's see Shannahan call timeout when that happens.
Go Raiders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
about 1 month ago
The biggest reason they didn't draft Glenn Dorsey was because he was a 3-technique defensive tackle. Tommy Kelly, now the highest paid tackle in NFL history, is the exact same position. Paying ridiculous-money for two players that can't work on the field at the same time would have been beyond stupid.
In a word: Dorsey did not work in that position (Sedrick Ellis or Trevor Laws would have, though).
The only real options for Oakland were draft McFadden because he will NOT be used that much as a running back (It was unofficially stated that Fargas and Bush are the starting backfield which VERY MUCH excites me - you Raider fans that are unaware have NO IDEA how good Michael Bush is going to be)... or the other option that Al Davis has grown a strong dislike for... trade down.
They SHOULD HAVE traded down to load up on picks late in the first and second rounds. Dallas and New Orleans were prime candidates. They instead opted for a very versatile player that can return kicks/punts, flash out as a wide receiver (may have the best hands on the team), AND run the option. The Raiders may be able to do that which everyone says will not work in the NFL... run the option.
I like and dislike the pick, but I feel we could not have made the team better RIGHT NOW if we traded down and drafted young talent. It would have been an investment in the future and that's not something Al is prepared to do any longer.
-mC
about 1 month ago
KC took a step foward in taking Dorsey and two steps backward by releasing Allen. That is why they never win a SB or get to a SB. I am glad we don't have to face Dorsey and Allen on the same line. Allen was a proven player that they were to cheap to pay. It's all good for us. If any AFC West teams were picking in front of us, who would you wan't them not to pick? The answer would be McFadden.
about 1 month ago
One more thing, KC can have Edwards. He talks about rebuilding (trading Allen), this is his third year. Is it a ten year plan? He was a head coach and then quit to become the Chiefs head coach. It's all good for us. He did nothing with the Jets. Now we need the Turner effect to kick in. I give him one more year, two at the most before he loses control and the seams fall off. Shanahan could be on the way out also. He makes five million per year and has done NOTHING without Elway and the fans are fed up. Once SD starts to slide, the division can be had for the taking.
from about 1 month ago
I could not agree more. It will be interesting to see if San Diego's talent can overcome (as you said) the "Turner effect."
about 1 month ago
My biggest problem with the Raiders is the ongoing drama surrounding the coach. I wish Al Davis would call a news conference this afternoon and announce a five-year contract extension for Kiffin. God we need some stability on this team! As stated earlier, the only glaring weakness seems to be on the defensive line, although I'm concerned about the wide receiver position too.
about 1 month ago
When both Tommy Kelly and Gerrard Warren were healthy last season, we had a good d-line rotation and everyone seems to miss this. Besides, everyone seems to forget that Dorsey is only 6'1" tall...he won't be batting down many Russell passes.
about 1 month ago
Started out at "huh"?..then "What??" then "You're clueless" ending in laughing at the rest.
That list is embarrassing. Is it too much to ask to actually put a little thought into it?
Making sense is optional.
All I can say is I'M DAMN GLAD YOU PICKED MCFADDEN AND NOT DORSEY.
Kelly can AND HAS PLAYED other positions on the D line...adding Dorsey to the mix means you biggest problem on defense, your d line, immediately is massively improved.
You ALREADY had a very productive running game (yes, #6 in rushing means you DIDN'T need another RB) so shoring up the defense would have made the team stronger.
Was pretty damn silly to ignore needs and sign TWO PLAYERS FOR POSITIONS YOU WERE already strong at.
Now, as far as Kelly?
Anyone aware that BEFORE he was hurt, the Raiders gave up 5.2 ypc? AFTER he went on IR after game 7 or so, the Raiders defense IMPROVED to 4.7 or so ypc??
Kelly wasn't all that before...paying him huge ridiculous bucks doesn't make him better. If that were the case, vastly overpaying Kwame Harris would solve that problem as well.
Instead you have very happy, underperforming, overpaid players.
I'm sure that makes sense...somewhere...to someone.
Pretty funny watching you all backtrack. On draft day fans couldn't believe you passed on Dorsey, SOME RAIDER BOARDS were going ballistic.
Now you act like a guy who couldn't break a tackle in college is suddenly going to doing that in the pro's??
Guy who easily went down in college because of those skinny pencil legs is now going to not collapse like a cheap tent?
Guy who fumbled more in 3 years than any other running back IN THE COUNTRY is now going to all of a sudden, mysteriously going to correct that against the PRO'S because Rathman told him to tuck his elbow???
There is a reason that on almost every single reputable sports site, KC was stated as having the best draft of any team.
While not the ONLY reason for that distinction, Dorsey is the #1 reason.
You blew it, plain and simple.
Have I failed to say I'm happy as hell you blew it? lol...trust me...I am.
thanks Al. ;)
from about 1 month ago
I liked this comment, it is really funny and points out how stuid this article was.
about 1 month ago
mike49er u make a lot of good points. personally i thought it was a toss up between dorsey and mcfadden, i wouldn't have been mad at either pick. we literally could not go wrong. last years rushing stats were misleading just like our pass defense stats from 06. i juss dont believe we would be able to have the #6 rushing attack this year again. we NEED a starting rb, and a home run hitter at the rb position completely changes the dynamic of our offense. no we didn't "blow it" - there u crossed the line from good analysis to hateration. fact is, right now both the raiders and niners SUCK, so aint a lot of room for trash talk.
joe montana is gay.
from about 1 month ago
Sure, the running game last year wasn't a solid 6th, just as the previous years defense was anything but it's high ranking.
None the less, you needed help on the defensive line, especially considering you just lost Sapp.
Will McFumble help? Sure.
Will he has as big an impact on the overall DIFFERENCE in your team as Dorsey would have?
Don't possibly see how.
Uh...saying you "blew it" crossed the line, into hateration?
Wow.
Sure glad I didn't say the Raiders suck.
Someone said that though......oh...wait...it was you.
In that case, carry on.
from about 1 month ago
The Raiders were one dimensional last year. Teams that were talented enough to stop their run made it difficult for the Raiders to develop consistent drives.
That being said, if a team has a top 5 back, it changes the way you challenge the run. If you have a guy that can break containment, you can't play the edges as aggressively, ends have to stay home-it opens up the passing game by helping your tackles.
The " McFumble" comment is a fun stat that fools the guy who never actually played in a solid coaching situtation. If you are adept at understanding the fundamentals of ball handling, you'd know that McFadden would look upfield before he had the ball causing him to muff shotgun snaps and kicks. He did not have a problem with losing the ball on contact. He only had the ball forced out 13 times in 46 games. Since the guy was getting most of the touches, that is a pretty low percentage.
WIth Dorsey (at 6'1"), he will more than likely have a difficult time against an NFL guard or tackle who is in the 6'6" range. He won't have an impact in the short passing game so he will need to come out on many 3rd down situations. If you look at the division, Russell and Rivers are both tall rangy guys and Denver runs a lot of boots, so he will be a down and distance type of situational guy unless he is a top 10 D lineman in the league which could be a stretch.
about 1 month ago
Here you go again Dyke49er, I thought I told you to stop watching NFL Network! After pretty much stating what every analyst says, you act like you have a clue about the Raiders, a team I know you don't watch. Yes, Dorsey is a good player but did you happen to see what McFadden put up on Dorseys' Tigers, Oh just over 200 and 3 TDs. We already have a "productive" running game! I don't care if we're first in rushing we still can't score. Under two touchdowns a game. Yeah that's real productive. Especially with 35 on a 1-15 team. Oh yeah McClown and Daunte really lit it up huh? I think they ran for more yards than they threw. That's how you get to SIXTH, you just don't pass!
You must have forgotten the best aquisition for the Raiders, Gibril. The strong safety position has been the biggest hole on run defense, and he alone will improve that aspect vastly. Coaching can't fix fumbles huh? One word, Tiki. And most of those came on returns, something we probably won't see with around 30 mill guaranteed. With Fargas' downhill running style he won't last 16 games, But we don't need another running back right? We have Bush! Bush is unproven, though I'm sure he'll be good, and LaMont and Rhodes, yeah, the Chargers are shakin'. Glad they're gone! You know if you even watched the Raiders you would see that the defense isn't that bad. Actually there pretty good. Even Dorsey would get tired with all those 3 and outs. Bottom line we need to score, we need to help JRuss and what better way than to do that than get a back who has blazing speed and exceptional hands. Cant' wait till we POUND kc. I know that makes sense to someone, somewhere.
about 1 month ago
Wong on all 5 is accurate! McFadden can't carry Michael Bush's jock! What a wasted pick. We could have had a great run stopping DT...just what we needed. He was right there. Another Robert Gallery pick when we could have had a Larry Fitzgerald with an aging Tim Brown and Jerry Rice leaving.
about 1 month ago
Here's an odd take I've not seen here, did anyone watch him (dorsey) in the championship game? the nose tackle was really making all the plays against the run and he is darryll russle or Gerrard Warren all over again he also had medical flags on him and we did a great job in the off season.
I'm just glad we didn't go after a tweener one year wonder that was a system improvement not a talant improvement in his last year his only good year like the 9ers took in k bomber!
about 1 month ago
good luck with another bust 9er fans!
about 1 month ago
Raider Jill: Here you go again Dyke49er, I thought I told you to stop watching NFL Network! After pretty much stating what every analyst says, you act like you have a clue about the Raiders, a team I know you don't watch.
Mike49er: You know, considering your comment above, I'm under the impression I schooled your sorryass on another thread. You'll excuse me if I don't bother to go check where, but considering how easily flustered, and clueless you are, it's a pretty set guarantee.
Prove me wrong.
Post a link to where YOU feel you actually stood up, and made sense.
Why do I just know you won't/can't?
Now, Jill, I don't watch NFL network.
Why? did it state, as well, that you blew it? that you didn't need a rb? That you needed Dorsey? EVERYONE KNEW THAT, STATED IT...it's just really slow fans like you that can't recall where they heard it....I mean...besides from me.
See? You should have just listened to me from the beginning, save yourself a lot of grief along with getting confused reading those confusing words on your screen.
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Yes, Dorsey is a good player but did you happen to see what McFadden put up on Dorseys' Tigers, Oh just over 200 and 3 TDs.
Mike49er: I have bad news for you...McFadden ran AWAY from Dorsey, not at him. He didn't score 3 td's on Dorsey. Not sure if you're aware of this, but there are 11 guys on defense. You know that, right? Just like you might have a great cb? Doesn't mean that defense is going to be great..just means the player is.
Here..want another example?? Some really weak teams even weaker fans stated a couple of years ago that they were now going to be elite, because they signed some guy named Moss.
Turns out that team got even worse.
Considering that guy...Moss...went elsewhere and broke the NFL record, guess it wasn't the player after all..was it.
You had a big hole in your defense and needed a Dorsey type player. Now, how stupid are you to even downplay Dorsey's play? quit being a sorry sheep...if that's possible.
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We already have a "productive" running game! I don't care if we're first in rushing we still can't score. Under two touchdowns a game. Yeah that's real productive. Especially with 35 on a 1-15 team. Oh yeah McClown and Daunte really lit it up huh? I think they ran for more yards than they threw. That's how you get to SIXTH, you just don't pass!
Mike49er: Wrong, as usual. ( I remember you now..made no sense,..incessant babbling..easily confused..sure. You're him...Gomer.)
First off, way to RIP ON YOUR TEAM, lol...geez...
Like it or not, you RB's got the yardage. You need that explained to you? IF THEY SUCKED, AND THE OFFENSE WAS STRICTLY GOING TO THE RUN, how is it defenses didn't stop them? Because they're not as bad as YOU would have them be.
On the other hand, McCown should have been kept. At this point you have NO ONE ON YOUR ROSTER who has solid NFL experience playing qb.
And you're ok with that? You don't think keeping McCown made sense?
Hell, you threw stupid money at Hall, Walker, and Harris, among others..yet you let ALL OF YOUR STARTING QB'S GO.
Your backup is WALTER. Someone that almost every Raider fan has given up on. Well, except for one tool who said "IF YOU GIVE HIM PROTECTION AND TIME He can get the job done." Well, hell, so can I if you give me the same thing.
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You must have forgotten the best aquisition for the Raiders, Gibril. The strong safety position has been the biggest hole on run defense, and he alone will improve that aspect vastly.
Mike49er: You still have Huff, lol...which negates Gibril.
Besides, not sure if you're aware of this but D backs don't play on the defensive line.
Dorsey does.
You need defensive line help.
But hey..good reply. I mean, when we state Kwame Harris sucks as a blindside tackle, just reply. "But our running backs are solid".
Again...see the "makes sense somewhere to someone...just has to"
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Coaching can't fix fumbles huh? One word, Tiki.
Mike49er: Three words. YOU'RE AN IDIOT. Are you the one that ran that Tiki take? I shredded that. Tell me you aren't running it again, lol.
The nitwit posted Tiki came into the league fumbling..and had it corrected. What was corrected was their comment about coming into the league. He had like 1 fumble each of his first few years...fumble problems were later.
Point was that some IDIOT STATED THAT NOW THAT MCFUMBLE TALKED TO RATHMAN ON THE PHONE he'll probably come into training camp with all his fumble problems taken care of.
Tell me that moron was you
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And most of those came on returns, something we probably won't see with around 30 mill guaranteed.
Mike49er: WRONG AGAIN. Where do you come up with this? In his last year, 15 fumbles, 5 as rb, 5 as qb, 5 returning. Hell, someone else said 'Well, some of those fumbles came when he was qb, and he won't be qb" Except as qb he played the option, and was RUNNING THE BALL, WITH BALL TUCKED when he fumbled. Sorry, a run is a run is a run, and those fumble numbers are his, on his own.
And yes, he'll be immediately tested by the pros on trying to yank that ball out.
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With Fargas' downhill running style he won't last 16 games, But we don't need another running back right? We have Bush! Bush is unproven, though I'm sure he'll be good, and LaMont and Rhodes, yeah, the Chargers are shakin'. Glad they're gone! You know if you even watched the Raiders you would see that the defense isn't that bad.
Mike49er: Oh...right. 31st against the run ISN'T BAD. Hell, I mean...why worry? Dropping to 32nd isn't a huge deal..so sure..I can see your point..just leave it as it is. *rolling eyes*
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Actually there pretty good. Even Dorsey would get tired with all those 3 and outs. Bottom line we need to score, we need to help JRuss and what better way than to do that than get a back who has blazing speed and exceptional hands. Cant' wait till we POUND kc. I know that makes sense to someone, somewhere.
Mike49er: Oh sure..get ANOTHER rb..then sign the Niners benched then cut horrible right tackle, Kwame Harris, who had so many defenses fly by him he earned the nickname "Turnstyle" and put him AS RUSSEL'S BLIND SIDE TACKLE.
Sure..that makes total sense.
Now..after Kwame gets beat like a drum, and Russell gets a few vicious blindsided, didn't see them coming, crunches, not sure how that "helps" him
Here's some more bad news for ya.
Because it's very likely offenses will be marching down the field on the Raiders, means you'll be playing from behind, which, of course means more passes...which of course means...less carries for the RB...which pretty much negates the "Helping out Russell" bit.
Now that this is cleared up for you..go find the link where you....you know...walked away proud.
about 1 month ago
Dike 49er...please tell me of a back that came into this league with fumble problems and didn't get it corrected? I remember Marcus Allen having lots of fumbling problems and he got it corrected...I remember Emmit Smith having fumbling problems...he also got it corrected...and we've already got Tiki Barber's problems are well documented (the fact it was a problem in the middle of his career is irrelevant, only the fact that he got it corrected is)...Hey I got the answer!!!! I remember Roger Craig fumbling away the game for the 49ers in 1990 in the NFC Championship game against NY...you remember...it was the same one Montana literally got knocked out for the next 2 seasons and officially ended his career with the Whiners! HA HA Could that be why you have such a fixation on Mcfadden's fumbling problems in college?
I don't understand why you have such a problem on hatin' the Raiders...yes we all know we've sucked the last 5 seasons, but there is a real feeling we're Finally headed in the right direction with Kiffin, Cable and the great stable of offensive coaches(I don't think anyone was happy with Shell or Turner)...this is also by far the most talented team we've had since the '02 superbowl, and ALL the Talent is YOUNG so we could be good for quite a while...Meanwhile the 49ers are in a talent vacuum...the best player on the team is a already worn down RB with 2 bad knees...Alex Smith could go down as the worse QB drafted #1 since...well...ever...at least Tim Couch had a blown out shoulder as an excuse...Smith just sucks PERIOD. I mean how do the 49ers not draft a WR with one of their high picks? Nor pick up anyone in FA (Bruce is done and doesn't count) I mean watching the 49ers Offense last year was just painful how bas it was...even worse than Shell's B&B Offense of '06 because with Shell's at least you knew it was the stupid Scheme...with the 49ers it obviously the lack of talent and even Mike Martz can't make chicken salad out of Chicken Sh_t...
Also saying Gibril won't help the run game nor having 2 shut down corners is just dumb...I do recall Bob Sanders returning for the Colts making a huge Difference 2 yrs ago...I'm not saying Gibril is Sanders, but I do think he'll improve the run D considerably. If you really watched the games the Raiders were better against the run than the stats showed...most of the time there were a few big runs that blew out the numbers...the only games they really looked bad was against Minnesota & Jacksonville, but the Vikings & Jags ran over everybody last year (kind of like we'll do this year with a 2 headed backfield like they have!!) In the final game of the season the Raiders stuffed LT the whole game and also stuffed the Colts run game as well late in the season.
Dorsey wasn't the right fit because of the presence of Kelly. I'll give Turdell one more season, but he struggles again this year then yes we need to upgrade...I will admit we should have drafted at least one DT in the last 2 drafts like Red Bryant in the 4th round this year (oh Well) but I expect the Raiders to much improved this year...unlike your 49ers...sorry but its true!!
about 1 month ago
All five reasons have merit and an argument could be made that they make sense. I didn't hate the Darren McFadden pick but I did want either Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey to be selected. I also felt that if the Raiders drafted Dmac in the 1st round that the Raiders would draft Ahtyba Rubin or Red Bryant in the 4th round. Too many years have passed without the Raiders addressing the DT position in the draft. I already want to Raiders to draft a DT & SLB in the 2009 draft. The veterans in the DT rotation have to get the job done.
about 1 month ago
Double:
Dike 49er...
Mike49er: That's Mr. Dike49er to you.
Wait...Isnt' a dike like a dam?? Did you mean dyke?
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please tell me of a back that came into this league with fumble problems and didn't get it corrected? I remember Marcus Allen having lots of fumbling problems and he got it corrected...I remember Emmit Smith having fumbling problems...he also got it corrected...and we've already got Tiki Barber's problems are well documented (the fact it was a problem in the middle of his career is irrelevant, only the fact that he got it corrected is)...Hey I got the answer!!!!
Mike49er: Sure...the above mentioned players had bouts of fumbles. However, NONE OF THEM came into the league with ANY OF MCFUMBLES other slights. I mean, he's got the Bakers Dozen Trifecta..he's not just the fumble king, he's also known for not breaking tackles..ALL OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED broke tackles..McFumble is also known for not having open field moves to juke defences...all of the above smoked D's in open fields...McFumble is known for going down on contact...ALL OF THE ABOVE were known for fighting for every inch, and in Roger Craig's case, punishing those who tried to tackle him down low..and the little spindly legs claim..which leads to the reason McFumble can't break tackles, and goes down when touched. He's got a lot to correct to even be effective, much less a star. Considering he's no threat to break a tackle, defenses will be keying on one holding him while others strip the ball.
Yep...should be fun :)
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I remember Roger Craig fumbling away the game for the 49ers in 1990 in the NFC Championship game against NY...you remember...it was the same one Montana literally got knocked out for the next 2 seasons and officially ended his career with the Whiners! HA HA Could that be why you have such a fixation on Mcfadden's fumbling problems in college?
Mike49er: Idiot reply. Seriously...that was sorry. Craig didn't have fumble problems, dumbass. Because he fumbled in a big game you equate that to your moronic signing of a player you didn't need, when your sorry joke of a run defense, which was 31st IN THE NFL had a chance to seriously upgrade?
That's your retort?
Is this stupid bit a part time gig, or are you going for full time with fringes?
Funny you brought up Marcus Allen.
Isn't he the guy that Al Davis decided to screw over because he didn't kiss Al's ass? Sending him to the bench, even when the Raiders looked like crap, and needed him on the field?? That guy? Where those two years Al benched him the Raiders finished one from the bottom?
Thanks for bringing up Montana. Yeah..he got knocked out of the game. But, because we know how to draft, and sign players, Steve Young stepped in.
You remember him, don't you?
Only team in the NFL EVER to have back to back Hall of Fame qb's on their team.
Raiders? "Kerry Collins...yeah...forget drafting a qb..we have Kerry" "Aaron Brooks...he's our guy" "Forget Brooks..we just drafted Walter"
Dude, you guys wrote the book on "Ways to screw up your draft for Dummies"
Here's MY PREDICTION NOW on McFumble...because your O line sucks so bad, and because Russell will be getting flustered behind center, not daring to wait long enough for plays to develop, McFumble will be labeled as "Just needs to get his legs" "Needs to get some rebs." "O line needs to create some holes" In other words, all that hype about him now scoring will be on the bench while Fargas gets most of the reps..while you watch Dorsey pound Russell twice every year.
Feel free to bookmark that guarantee, because you'll be living it soon enough.
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I don't understand why you have such a problem on hatin' the Raiders...yes we all know we've sucked the last 5 seasons, but there is a real feeling we're Finally headed in the right direction with Kiffin, Cable and the great stable of offensive coaches(I don't think anyone was happy with Shell or Turner)...this is also by far the most talented team we've had since the '02 superbowl, and ALL the Talent is YOUNG so we could be good for quite a while...
Mike49er: First off, don't mistake constructive criticism for "hatin"" I'm your voice of reason. Someone has to be. It's just you hate that it's a Niner fan who's enlightening you.
Re: Kiffin? What direction would that be? Isn't this the same guy who made that astute decision to let Moss go for a 4th round pick? The pick that is now 4th on your depth chart? That guy? The same guy who watched, meekly, as Sapp totally melted down, without doing one single thing? that guy? Same guy who tried to make a coaching decision regarding his DC, where he got over ruled by the owner? That guy? Is that the same guy the owner handed a letter of resignation, because the owner has already given up on him? THAT GUY??? Would that be the same guy who couldn't figure out who the hell should be your qb?? Who rotated back and forth, with no reasoning in sight? Is that also the same guy who handled Russell about as BADLY AS COULD POSSIBLY BE?? Where there were NUMEROUS situations where Russell should have been put in, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING HE'S NOW BEEN LABELED THE STARTER FOR THIS YEAR...where he wasn't put in at all??? Where some teams with horrible defenses would have been perfect for him to get his feet wet, but instead is put in against strong solid defenses? That guy????
LMAO..yeah..truly laughing.
Guy doesn't want to be there. Your owner doesn't want him there. Players know your owner doesn't want him there. Makes him even weaker than he was..he's a lameduck, going through the motions, just waiting for his contract to expire so he can go elsewhere..because THAT'S JUST WHAT THE RAIDERS DO. If they're bad enough, they're fired. If good enough, they can't wait to leave.
See??? Now THAT'S a reality check you know damn well is what JUST HAPPENED.
Raiderfan: 'huh??? what?? Me worry? We have Al. Al is our God. We are sheep. Baaaaaaaaaa"
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Meanwhile the 49ers are in a talent vacuum...the best player on the team is a already worn down RB with 2 bad knees...Alex Smith could go down as the worse QB drafted #1 since...well...ever...at least Tim Couch had a blown out shoulder as an excuse...Smith just sucks PERIOD. I mean how do the 49ers not draft a WR with one of their high picks? Nor pick up anyone in FA (Bruce is done and doesn't count) I mean watching the 49ers Offense last year was just painful how bas it was...even worse than Shell's B&B Offense of '06 because with Shell's at least you knew it was the stupid Scheme...with the 49ers it obviously the lack of talent and even Mike Martz can't make chicken salad out of Chicken Sh_t...
Mike49er: Unlike your previous draft picks, ours are playing. Ours are starting. Gore led the NFC in rushing two years ago in rookie season. Davis is a beast at TE. Both #1 picks from last year started and excelled in their rookie year, with Willis winning Defensive Rookie of the Year.
You don't have a clue regarding the Niners OR the Raiders..do you?
You mention Smith, who won 3 or his 4 games before getting injured, while you have Russell?? lol...the guy looked like as big a bust as there could possibly be. HE SUCKED. Save the 'He's a rookie" Yeah, he is, and he's NOW YOUR STARTER. The guy had all of ONE GAME..(see above about your pathetic HC, Lame Kiffin badly mismanaging Russell). Hell, even Raider fans were screaming to put McCown back in.
Again, you don't have a clue, do you?
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Also saying Gibril won't help the run game nor having 2 shut down corners is just dumb...I do recall Bob Sanders returning for the Colts making a huge Difference 2 yrs ago...I'm not saying Gibril is Sanders, but I do think he'll improve the run D considerably. If you really watched the games the Raiders were better against the run than the stats showed...most of the time there were a few big runs that blew out the numbers...the only games they really looked bad was against Minnesota & Jacksonville, but the Vikings & Jags ran over everybody last year (kind of like we'll do this year with a 2 headed backfield like they have!!) In the final game of the season the Raiders stuffed LT the whole game and also stuffed the Colts run game as well late in the season.
Mike49er: WHAT????? You're "better" than the stats showed?? YOU WERE 31ST IN THE LEAGUE..only team worse was Miami.
LD only played up to the start of the 3rd qtr then sat out AFTER HE GOT THE RUSHING TITLE.. Leave it to YOU to state "stuffed him whole game" Even in limited play he got 3.5 ypc, all designed to get him the title, and get out.
Your other late games were GB and Jacksonville..where you got run over.
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Dorsey wasn't the right fit because of the presence of Kelly. I'll give Turdell one more season, but he struggles again this year then yes we need to upgrade...I will admit we should have drafted at least one DT in the last 2 drafts like Red Bryant in the 4th round this year (oh Well) but I expect the Raiders to much improved this year...unlike your 49ers...sorry but its true!!
Mike49er: As already stated Kelly has played other positions on the D line and Dorsey would have immediately improved one of your weakest areas.
Also stated the team did better with Kelly on IR than they did with him in there.
Basically boils down to the Raiders threw a ton of money at someone who didn't deserve it.
What is it with Al throwing huge bucks at guys who missed most of last year either on IR or sitting on the bench somewhere because they SUCK????
from about 1 month ago
Hey Mike, give us a prediction:
Is Alex Smith and $51 million deal going to be pulling the pine splinters out of his ass or grass out of his face-mask (again)?
about 1 month ago
Just not quite as stupid as spelling stupid incorrectly.
about 1 month ago
whats wrong wit'chu?
about 1 month ago
It seems to me 49ERMIKE is a Raider fan in the closet, because most of us living in the bay area know about san fran and people hiding in closets. Brother us Raiderfans would welcome you to RaiderNation, but by being a hater we wont let you in. I think mike hates on us so much because there is nothing to talk about as a 9er fan let alone something to be excited about!!
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