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Since the start of the offseason, it seems everybody has been talking about where Johan Santana would end up. With Opening day of 2008 just two months away, America has finally found an answer to its question:Johan Santana will be a New York Met...

Johan Santana a Met: Phillies Phans Don't Fret!

by Josh Niemtzow (Scribe)

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February 10, 2008


Since the start of the offseason, it seems everybody has been talking about where Johan Santana would end up. 

With Opening day of 2008 just two months away, America has finally found an answer to its question:

Johan Santana will be a New York Met. 

Remember February 2nd?  For those who don't know, the Mets were given an ultimatum, sign Johan Santana by 5 o'clock Friday or the deal is null. 

If you were a fan of any team in the NL East besides the Mets, this probably was not a happy day for you.  Most likely you were  at school studying, or possibly at work fumbling through the Internet hitting the refresh button every 10 seconds literally waiting to hear the news, will the Mets sign Johan Santana?

And at 5:00, you were probably ecstatic calling some of your friends and discussing the possibilities of your team making the playoffs.

But then, with another refresh, the announcement came: The Mets had asked for a two hour extension, and the request had just been granted.

Mind you just two minutes ago you were already parading around yelling "My team will make the playoffs!!"

The final contract was seven years, $137.5 million with incentives leading to 150 million dollars, making him the highest payed pitcher ever. Even though you may think the Mets will most likely make the playoffs, I'm about to show you why this may not be the case.

First off lets talk about the On Paper Factor. This brings us to the New York Yankees, a team that always has the best team on paper. Owner George Steinbrenner always seems to get the best players, ala Randy Johnson and Johnny Damon, but look at them, they constantly have the best team on paper every year, and look how far they have gotten.

Their last World Series was in 2000 and since then they have not made it back.  So for all of you calling the Mets a sure World Series team, you may want to reconsider.

Second of all, let's not forget that all of the teams besides the Marlins have improved tremendously since last season.  The Nationals most would say have improved the most out of any of the teams.  This off season they have signed star relief pitcher Jon Rauch to a two year deal, signed catcher Paul Lo Duca, traded for young standout pitcher Tyler Clippard and even bagged a great prospect and almost MLB ready player Lastings Milledge.

Then the Phillies, although one could argue that the Phillies have not done much, you have to give Pat Gillick credit for bringing them to the playoffs for the first time since ‘93.

They have upgraded by bringing in a valid number two pitcher in Brett Myers, and upgrading the bullpen, with the addition of Brad Lidge of Houston (all star in '05).  Not to mention the tremendous third base upgrade in Pedro Feliz

Third of all We do not know yet how Santana will react to the league change, AL to NL.  Most people seem to assume that Santana will have no problem adjusting, and in fact he SHOULD do much better, but he won’t.  He simply won’t.

Let's start with the Phillies.

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    I hope you are right about santana not coming through, but unfortunately even a sub par season for him is an all-star season. Also stop giving pat gillick so much credit. His goal should NOt be to win a certain amount of games. It should be to compile a team that can win a WORLD SERIES something that hasnt been done in almost 30 years. I hate how all philly front offices accept mediocrity except maybe the flyers but who really cares about hockey.

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      I care about hockey and yeah i did give pat gillick a little too much credit, but I have to because anybody is better than dead wade

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    He simply wont be able to adjust?
    Are you freaking smoking crack dude? Johan Santana has an era below 2 against the nl in his career, not only will he adjutst, he will excel in the national league.

    Also, "Not to mention the tremendous third base upgrade in Pedro Feliz."

    He is an upgrade, but not much, certainly not a tremendous upgrade.

    The one thing the phillies can count on is they have definetley the best team chemistry in the division.

    And you can't say besides Johan , Omar had an insignificent offseason, because besides lidge, Gillick had an insignificent off-season. Remember, the mets were in first place for most of the season. They didn't lose the division by twelve games, they lost it by one, they didn't need a major overhaul of the roster. They simply needed a small tweaking, which they did by getting the best pitcher in the game, and that should be enough to put them over the top.

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    Keep dreaming Phillies fans! Johan will dominate the NL east

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    pat knows whats up

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    I do not understand why many of the articles comparing and contrasting the Mets and Phillies fail to take note of the fact that the Mets are in effect adding two (2) former Cy Young winners to their rotation, not just one. Pedro pitched a total of five games at the end of the season. Surely adding him AND Santana to the front end of the rotation is big enough that we don't have to consider the nickel and dime changes that occurred in the NL East that more or less offset one another. Yes, the Braves have a nice rotation and some young players looking like they'll have big years, and the Phillies got Lidge and moved Myers into the rotation, and solidified third base. The Nats improved but are not a threat to win the division, and the Mets made a couple of defensive improvements (and arguably offensive in RF). But none of these tweaks - and these ARE tweaks unlike the Santana-bomb + Pedro comeback- is the same as adding 2 Cy Young winners (all 5 Cy Youngs between them in the tougher American League).

    So taken together, the Phils lineup might arguably be slightly better than the Mets, the Mets have better defense, and the bullpens are both slightly improved from last year, especially if Duaner Sanchez comes back healthy and productive, but nothing the Phils have done comes even close to putting in place a 1-2 force like Santana-Pedro that was not there last year.

    The Phils may indeed end up winning the division - there's no doubt there's a possibility that can happen if we learned anything from the last 17 games the Mets played. But this time around 89 wins simply ain't gonna cut it. Pat has to shoot for at least 100.

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    good input sergio

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    raise your hand if you think pedro is going to stay healthy for a season ever again in his career...[doesn't raise hand].

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    "To conclude, Johan Santana’s trip to the NL East will pan out as a stupid mistake."
    oh boy. Honestly, were you under the weather when you wrote this?
    It's the NL!
    He won't have to face a DH anymore, that's stupid?
    Have you seen some of the 8 spot hitters NL teams trot out?
    You sure you don't want to retract that statement?
    Phillies phans should phret a whole phreakin time is what they should do.

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    f you douche ok im 14 years old and im trying to be hopeful don't comment on the issue comment on how well its written. You mutts fans should go back your trashcan.

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    Dude, the mets have a lock in the divison. I'm a Met fan, probably the biggest alive. I saw every game of the 2006 and 2007 seasons and have observed how they collapesed. The Mets had a bad player in Shawn Green. He was upgraged by Ryan Church. THe Mets have a great platoon of catchers scheinder for defense and castro for offense 12 homers in 40 starts. Yeah the Phillies have a better infield feliz rollins utley howard mets wright reyes castillo delgado. but the mets have a better outfield beltran alou chruch chavez pagan phillies vicizino burrell werth jenkins. THe mets rotaition is obvioulsy better santana martinez maine perez el duque phillies hammels myers kendrick moyer and someone else. the mets have a better bullpen PITCHING WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    You are wrong. The Phils are the division champs. Period. Randolph and Minaya couldn't wipe the floor in Philly. They'll find some way to screw it up.

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