WWE Vengeance 2011 Preview: Predictions You Can Take to the Bank

Eric Kanes@EricKanesContributor IIIOctober 22, 2011

WWE Vengeance 2011 Preview: Predictions You Can Take to the Bank

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    What's up, ladies and gentlemen? My name is Eric Kanes, and I am back here today with my monthly pay-per-view preview. I will break things down and give the realistic odds for each match.

    This month, as always I'll have fellow columnist Buzz M joining me. I'll also have QuickWrestlingNews columnist Geddy Cahoon joining me as well. Anyone that reads the site may know him as the action figure reviewer or as the guy who collects action figures well past the age that it's socially acceptable.

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    Now, without any further ado, let's get this show on the road!

Air Boom (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

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    Eric Kanes: I'd expect Air Boom vs. Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger to open Vengeance this Sunday after their fantastic performance at Hell in a Cell. They had a fairly short match at 11 minutes, which I rated three stars. Hopefully, we can get a longer match out of these guys this time around. Either way, I highly doubt that we'll see Ziggler and Swagger pick up the win here. Air Boom has a bright future as a tag team while Ziggler and Swagger are better off on their own.

    Eric's Pick: Air Boom

    Buzz M: I read some reports last week stating that Evan Bourne suffered an injury, but it doesn’t seem to be too serious as he still competed in matches later. I hope Air Boom retains. They’re doing a good job as a team right now, and even though WWE is still putting together some random teams, at least the division is looking better and more interesting now. I predict Air Boom to win after a miscommunication between Swagger and Ziggler.

    Buzz's Pick: Air Boom

    Geddy Cahoon: A few months back, I praised the apparent resurgence of the tag division. However, it's still very early in its metamorphosis, and thus, we're still getting some thrown together teams. Swagger's my favorite wrestler, and I like Ziggler as well. It's a cool team in theory, but weren't these guys just feuding like two weeks back? I'd rather see Swagger get involved in the US title match. Make it a triple threat. Not that this match will be bad, but don't expect Air Boom to lose the belts here. I doubt Zig Swag will be a permanent team.

    Geddy's Pick: Air Boom

Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Zack Ryder

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    Eric Kanes: I'm really glad to see Zack Ryder finally getting a title match on pay-per-view. He's earned it more than anybody. However, they have been making him look uncharacteristically strong going into this PPV which leads me to believe that he will not end up victorious. I'd love to see him finally get that big win but I just don't see it happening. I really hope I'm wrong on this one, though.

    Eric's Pick: Dolph Ziggler

    Buzz M: This match depends on when it will happen. Dolph Ziggler will compete in two matches so if this match comes after the tag team match, then I expect Ziggler to be exhausted and he might end up losing. Some people might not like the way Zack Ryder is booked, but I personally like it. I mean come on, we wanted him to get more airtime and he finally did. Let’s just be patient. As I said, Ryder might end up winning since Ziggler would be exhausted. However, Vickie Guerrero could still interfere and distract the referee and maybe cause a disqualification. So I predict Ziggler to win, or maybe lose via DQ, so he’ll retain the title either way. Will he break up with Vickie? I've thought about it before, but WWE doesn’t seem to be in a hurry right now.

    Buzz's Pick: Zack Ryder via DQ

    Geddy Cahoon: I don't care about this match, I'll be frank. I used to like Zack Ryder, but for reasons I can't get into here, I no longer do. I do like Ziggler, however, and I acknowledge Ryder's talent so this match should be solid. I assume Ziggler goes over, as we KNOW he's gonna drop the belt to Mason Ryan soon enough. This match is just the payoff to Ziggler and Ryder's mini feud...Don't expect the belt to change hands if Ziggler's opponent isn't named Mason Ryan.

    Geddy's Pick: Dolph Ziggler

Sheamus vs. Christian

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    Eric Kanes: This match is a great example of why I will not be ordering this PPV. Two things: (1) We've seen this about 5,798 times on SmackDown so I don't see why I'd pay to see something I've already seen for free and will probably see for free again 500 more times. (2) This feud really has no story to it other than two guys fighting every week for no reason. I don't care how good they are as workers. This just isn't a very compelling story. With that said, does it really matter who wins? I don't think so. I'll go with Sheamus just because WWE seems to be building him us a strong face.

    Eric's Pick: Sheamus

    Buzz M: I don’t have much to say about this match. Both guys will put on a good match, but I’m sure Sheamus will win as he’s having a hot run and he seems to be the one who will stop Mark Henry’s dominance later. As for Christian, he’ll continue whining about wanting one more match.

    Buzz's Pick: Sheamus

    Geddy Cahoon: I believe this is the second PPV in a row that we're seeing this match. Well, I can't complain. They're solid performers, and it's a nice feud. Word is that Sheamus is supposed to become SmackDown's top player sooner, rather than later. I would say Sheamo goes over clean, but they'll likely incorporate this feud into the race for the World Title, so I'll say Christian wins, allowing the two to have a No. 1 contender's match at Survivor Series.

    Geddy's Pick: Christian

Beth Phoenix (c) vs. Eve Torres

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    Eric Kanes: Although I'd take this over a Kelly Kelly match any day, this is still just going to be a typical divas match. I guess we'll be seeing these kinds of matches on every PPV until either Kharma returns or Natalya turns face. I'm picking Beth Phoenix to go over in dominant fashion here. Any other ending would just be ridiculous.

    Eric's Pick: Beth Phoenix

    Buzz M: Beth Phoenix’s reign has just started, and I don’t see her losing anytime soon. At least not this Sunday. Personally, I like Eve more than Kelly and I think she’s better, but I don’t think she’ll win this Sunday. I expect several Divas to challenge Beth in the following weeks until she either faces Natalya or Kelly again. Or who knows? She might drop the title soon.

    Buzz's Pick: Beth Phoenix

    Geddy Cahoon: This match is totally random. This PPV appears to be exclusively based on giving placeholder-ish title matches that we wouldn't normally see. Goldust has predicted a victory for Eve. To that I say, Dustin, you're an idiot. No way Beth loses here. The match is a placeholder, nothing more.

    Geddy's Pick: Beth Phoenix

Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes

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    Eric Kanes: Just like with Sheamus vs. Christian, this could've been a match that I'm really looking forward to but I honestly don't have much desire of seeing it. The story started out fine with Orton taking his frustration out on Rhodes and Rhodes wanting to get revenge. However, again, it is now a feud based around two maniacs attacking each other for no reason every week. Plus, it's hard to really get into the feud with Rhodes' character. Orton cuts his head open and almost kills him and his big revenge is putting a paper bag on Orton's face? Really? I think that this feud was put together to give Orton some momentum back after being defeated clean twice by Mark Henry so it's pretty obvious who's going to leave San Antonio with the win.

    Eric's Pick: Randy Orton

    Buzz M: This is a match I’m looking forward to because I’ve been waiting for these two superstars to start a rivalry since the day Randy Orton moved to SmackDown (I expected them to collide soon). Cody Rhodes is really becoming a major superstar on SmackDown and this feud might be his chance to further establish himself. I’m not sure who will win this but I’m going to predict a victory for Orton. I hope this feud goes on for a while. It might either lead to a more twisted character for Cody or it might just end so that Orton can compete for the title again. I hope Cody benefits from this rivalry, though, and even win it or win one match at least.

    Buzz's Pick: Randy Orton

    Geddy Cahoon: This one is a tad tough to predict... I applaud the way WWE has built up Cody Rhodes recently; he's getting a proper push and Vince is said to be very high on him right now. However, I just don't see him going over Orton here. This feud was clearly just to keep Randy out of the title picture for a month. On the other hand, as I said, Vince is high on Cody. So maybe the finish will be screwy? I also wish Cody would defend the IC title, but this match is high profile enough to justify not defending his belt, I guess.

    Geddy's Pick: Randy Orton (perhaps via DQ?)

Mark Henry (c) vs. Big Show

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    Eric Kanes: Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes should take notes from these guys (and that's saying something). This match is based on the same story but these guys established their story well and Big Show is walking into the PPV looking like a credible challenger. Nonetheless, I think everybody knows that the point of this match is to give Mark Henry even more momentum and make him look even stronger. I don't expect much from this match for obvious reasons but if it's exactly like their match at Money in the Bank, then that would be ideal. Keep it short and have Big Show dominate before Mark Henry strikes back and wins in dominant fashion. Then, the announcers can build up Mark Henry by saying something like, "If a 7-foot monster like Big Show couldn't stop Mark Henry, then who can?"

    Eric's Pick: Mark Henry

    Buzz M: Big Show has been dominating Mark Henry since his return and he’s been built like a legit threat to Henry’s title. However, I still think that Henry will retain in one way or another. I don’t think Big Show will be the man to stop Henry. But who knows? Will we see a Kane return? I won’t be surprised if Show won via disqualification even though I don’t like this ending and I already predicted a similar end for the US Title match.

    Buzz's Pick: Mark Henry

    Geddy Cahoon: This match is obviously the payoff to these two behemoths' feud from the summer. Don't expect a technical classic, or Big Show going over. Henry's on fire right now; they wouldn't cut that short for Show. This match acts as a payoff for their feud, and to give us some variation from the normal "Orton gets a title shot/defense at every single pay per view ever" formula.

    Geddy's Pick: Mark Henry

Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. John Cena

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    Eric Kanes: Meh. I don't have that much excitement going into this match. These guys haven't had much chemistry at all during their feud and modern last man standing matches don't tend to be that exciting. They follow the formula of chair shot to the back, lie down, chair shot to the back, lie down, and so on. I think that the reason this match is a last man standing match, anyway, is to have John Cena lose in the cheapest, dirtiest way possible to ensure that his opponent doesn't walk away looking strong, because that would certainly be catastrophic. I'd say a Brodus Clay return or something of that nature is very likely.

    Eric's Pick: Alberto Del Rio

    Buzz M: Last time many people predicted Del Rio to retain the title because we expected him to have a longer reign, but he ended up losing. Dirt sheets stated that WWE wanted Del Rio to be the champion during the Mexican tour, and while he did, I never saw any major thing about it during this tour. He looked worse than most other previous editions of Raw and SmackDown. Anyway, WWE is promoting the match as Cena’s last chance. Dirt sheets are saying that Punk might get involved in a feud with Del Rio afterwards. Well, I won’t read into them and I won’t be surprised to see Cena win. However, I still expect Alberto to win via dirty tactics. Will Brodus Clay interfere and help him? Will he use duct tape like Cena did against Batista? Or will it just be Ricardo helping him? We’ll see this Sunday. And on a side note, I hope John Cena vs. The Rock at WrestleMania doesn’t involve the WWE Title.

    Buzz's Pick: Alberto Del Rio

    Geddy Cahoon: This feud is so boring. Del Rio definitely has in-ring and microphone skills, but in this feud he's come off as a generic stupid, evil heel. I expect this match to be OK, as it's Last Man Standing, but Del Rio probably won't lose. The rumor is that Cena will be phased out of the title picture, to focus on the feud with Rock. Punk will be taking his place, and engaging in a feud with ADR.

    Geddy's Pick: Alberto Del Rio

Triple H & CM Punk vs. The Miz & R-Truth

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    Eric Kanes: This is easily the match I'm looking forward to the most, mostly just to see how WWE books it. I think it'll probably be Triple H and CM Punk destroying their opponents and then Triple H demanding control of RAW the next night but it would make a lot more sense to have Awesome Truth win.

    Here is how I'd book it—have Triple H going for the win until Christian runs out and try to interfere but have CM Punk take him out with a boot to the head or something. Then, have Alberto Del Rio run out from the other side and try to get involved but have Triple H take him out. Triple H then gets infuriated and starts attacking him until the referee gets distracted and tells him to get back in the ring. With the ref distracted, Kevin Nash comes through the crowd and takes out a distracted CM Punk with a powerbomb. Triple H gets back in the ring and goes to tag CM Punk, but Punk is out cold. Triple H turns around and walks right into R-Truth's finisher and Miz and Truth win. Post-match, the five heels all beat down Triple H. John Laurinaitis comes out and celebrates with the five heels while Triple H and CM Punk are out cold.

    On the following RAW, Laurinaitis, Miz, Truth, Christian, Del Rio, and Nash come out and talk about how they did everyone a favor and disposed of Triple H as all he's been is a pain in the ass since becoming COO. However, Triple H's music hits and he comes out with bruises on his face, taped up ribs, etc. He says that they're not done with him yet. He then challenges them to a five-on-five match at Survivor Series. He can't compete but he found a few guys that still have faith in him. If his team wins, he's gone for good and resigns as COO. If Team Laurinaitis wins, he gets control of RAW again. Laurinaitis agrees to it and tells him to bring his team out. Triple H's team turns out to be CM Punk, Sheamus, and John Cena. The three of them get in the ring and beat down the five heels. However, for the next two weeks, the numbers game catches up as it's 5-on-3 and the heels keep getting the upper hand until finally on the RAW before Survivor Series, Triple H announces that he's recruited two of his good friends to help him out. Out come Mick Foley and The Rock and we have our 5-on-5 match for Survivor Series.

    That may sound too good (and logical) to be true but I'm still hoping for something similar, even though that probably won't be the case.

    Eric's Pick: Triple H and CM Punk

    Buzz M: Many outcomes can be expected here. Even though the booking has been somehow chaotic, I think that this is going to be a long feud revolving around the conspiracy and control of WWE. I expect Miz and Truth to win after interference from John Laurinaitis or possibly Kevin Nash.

    Buzz's Pick: Awesome Truth

    Geddy Cahoon: Here's a match that should be great, provided it's booked well. This story showed a lot of promise, and WWE screwed it up. This will be the end of the Punk chapter of our WWE Corporate Drama, I predict. As stated, Punk is due to enter the title picture soon, and will be exiting this story to feud with Del Rio. Miz and Truth are the most entertaining act in the company right now, and this angle with the corporate shenanigans is far from over. I HOPE Miz and Truth go over, perhaps with interference by Kevin Nash or something like that. That's something that gives this story some juice, puts Miz and Truth over, and doesn't necessarily make HHH and Punk look "weak." However, WWE's bookers and writers are idiots so I assume HHH and Punk will go over clean. The match will undoubtedly be well wrestled and entertaining, but I doubt the ending will be any good, because that would make too much sense.

    Geddy's Pick: Triple H and CM Punk

Bonus Questions

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    As always, here are some bonus questions for our readers:

    Which wrestler left off the card should've gotten a match?

    Eric Kanes: I'm glad to see Zack Ryder getting a title shot and The Miz and R-Truth in the main event but one guy still should've gotten a spot somewhere on the card and that guy is Daniel Bryan. This guy will probably be the world champion six months from now and WWE's way of building him up is having him on TV once a month to job in some random match. What sense does that make?

    Buzz M: When was the last time we saw Wade Barrett or Daniel Bryan on a PPV?

    Geddy Cahoon: Definitely Daniel Bryan. He has the Money in the Bank briefcase. He's getting a title shot at WrestleMania. He's good in the ring, and all right on the mic. It's a travesty that one of our future top stars isn't getting any airtime. Throw him in a feud with Tyson Kidd or something. Anything can work, and it can probably put both Bryan and his opponent over. But that's why I'm not a WWE writer; I'm logical.

    Which match will steal the show?

    Eric Kanes: Probably Big Show and Mark Henry with their five star classic. Or not. I have to go with Triple H and CM Punk vs. The Miz and R-Truth just because there's some hype going into this match and literally no hype going into any of the others.

    Buzz M: I’m looking forward to several matches. Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes has the potential to steal the show. Cena and Del Rio showed that they can work a good match together and I think it’s going to be a somehow brutal match. Christian and Sheamus had a good match before. But since the tag team match might end up being the main event, I expect it to get a good amount of time and possibly steal the show.

    Geddy Cahoon: Definitely R-Truth/Miz vs HHH/Punk. Even if the ending isn't any good, these are four supremely talented superstars. This match almost looks good enough, in terms of pure wrestling, to entice me to buy Vengeance.

    How do you think this PPV will do in terms of buyrates?

    Eric Kanes: Not very good. The build-up has been lackluster and it feels like a throw-away PPV going into Survivor Series. To break things down, this PPV is a one-match show. Christian vs. Sheamus and Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton are feuds centered around two guys fighting each week for no reason, Mark Henry vs. Big Show won't exactly be a technical classic, Beth Phoenix vs. Eve is a divas match, and John Cena and Alberto Del Rio will probably just take turns lying down and rolling around for twenty minutes. The tag match and to an extent Zack Ryder vs. Dolph Ziggler has potential to be good but overall, this is probably the weakest card since Over the Limit.

    Buzz M: The buildup was quick since they only had three weeks. I’m not sure how many people are interested here. I expect an average result since Survivor Series is next and I’m sure it will end up having very high buy rates.

    Geddy Cahoon: Terrible. What incentive do we really have to watch it? The Cena/Del Rio story is boring, the HHH story is senseless, the Tag Titles have yet to matter, and every other match is pointless or a placeholder. Plus, WWE obviously does far too many PPVs per year. They never learn from their own mistakes though, so don't worry, even if this does poorly, we'll still get our 13 PPVs per year, dammit!

    Will you be ordering this PPV?

    Eric Kanes: No. And I'm someone who usually buys the PPVs. I've bought each one since Capitol Punishment but this one does not have very much potential. Plus, the commentary is going to suck.

    Buzz M: We had three PPVs in five weeks and that’s too much. I might be busy on this day, but I’ll try to watch it.

    Geddy Cahoon: Absolutely not. I have no desire to spend $50 and then not be absolutely wowed. Aside from a few matches, there's no way Vengeance will absolutely wow me. It has a small bit of promise, but surely not $50 worth.


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