I actually was at home watching it on TV. But a friend who was there told me he heard all these statements...
15. Who’s this Masoli guy? I thought they only ran the ball. Apparently our coaches thought so as well.
14. Okay throw the roses away. Anyone have sunflowers?
13. Well with only a few more touchdowns the game could have looked respectable.
12. It’s just not fair being forced to tackle one on one.
11. Our third-string running back is as good as Oregon’s Johnson and Blount. Quizz Rodgers is also the next Barry Sanders.
10. In my opinion John Canzano is one of the best sports writers in America.
9. I always complained that we need to market our team like Oregon does. Now I’m glad we don’t.
8. Phil Knight totally bought off the refs.
7. Phil Knight is the only reason they are winning.
6. Phil Knight totally bought off Mike Riley.
5. Honestly, I’m not paranoid of Phil Knight.
4. In my opinion, we’re still a pretty underrated football team.
3. I still don’t think beating USC was a fluke.
2. I’m confused, I thought The Oregonian told me we’d win because blue collar teams that work hard work hard and play gritty will never lose to stylish primadonnas that only care about publicity and don’t ever accomplish anything on the field.
Best quote overheard:
1. Honestly, I didn’t care about making it to the Rose Bowl.
Anyone overhear anything else?
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Brett Field 7 months ago
Beav fan: What Duck Running Back even plays in the NFL?
Me: umm, Johnathan Stewart
Beav Fan: Hes not still playing
Me: he was the 12th pick in the draft
Beav Fan: In what, 1982?
(While I was singing the Oregon fight song on the field after the game)
Typical Duck class
(At half time)
Don't worry, this is the Ducks. We'll still win by double digits
USC is our real rival now
and so many more that I can't think of now
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Nobody Special 7 months ago
How many times have I hear this come out of a Beaver fan's mouth:'defense wins championships'.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Your an idiot.
Defense does win championships
Beavers played no defense
They aren't going to the rose bowl
Because they played no defense
So how is "defense wins championships" false?
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
He's just saying it's really annoying...
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Iceman 7 months ago
nice. i got a few laughs out of this. so what bowl do ducks go to now? anybody know?
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Holiday most likely. Either against Oklahoma State or Mizzou
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Brett Field 7 months ago
According to Rob Moseley's blog, a Holliday Bowl official said that barring any upsets this weekend (UCLA over USC, Mizzou over Oklahoma) it would be Oregon-Ok state in the Holliday Bowl.
An intriguing matchup would be Oregon-Oklahoma once again in the Holliday Bowl if the Sooners are upset by Missouri (unlikely, I know) in a rematch of two great games from a couple of years ago with two of the hottest offenses in the country
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Brett Field 7 months ago
According to Rob Moseley's blog, a Holliday Bowl official said that barring any upsets this weekend (UCLA over USC, Mizzou over Oklahoma) it would be Oregon-Ok state in the Holliday Bowl.
An intriguing matchup would be Oregon-Oklahoma once again in the Holliday Bowl if the Sooners are upset by Missouri (unlikely, I know) in a rematch of two great games from a couple of years ago with two of the hottest offenses in the country
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John B 7 months ago
Barring some craziness next weekend (e.g., Bruins beat Trojans), Ducks go to the Holiday Bowl in San Diego Dec. 30. USC gets the Rose, Beavs get the Sun in El Paso Dec. 31.
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John Chapman 7 months ago
Whoever uttered comment #10 about John Canzano is completely out of their mind....
Canzano is one of the worst sportswriters in America; he will say whatever it takes to irritate and annoy people, to make up for his lack of journalistic talent.
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Chris R 7 months ago
I was hoping a Beaver fan would say thank you for the Ducks sparing their team from embarrassment in the Rose Bowl. Alas, no so such thank you has been given yet.
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Chris R 7 months ago
As for my favorite quote, about thirty minutes after the game had ended I had a delusional Beaver Believer come up to me with a special message. Their words of wisdom? "Ducks suck." I smiled and went on my way.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
"The Better Team Won"....Yes, an actual Beaver Fan said that.
Was it just me, or did they boo and want pass interference on every pass that was batted down?
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Oh please you can not possibly be saying those refs weren't on the ducks side. My best friend who is a duck, unfortunatley, even said they were screwing the beavs.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
The Ducks had more penalties though, including a few phantom holds late in the 3rd quarter.
The refs didn't even come close to deciding this game. The better team on the field won.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
The Ducks had more penalties though, including a few phantom holds late in the 3rd quarter.
The refs didn't even come close to deciding this game. The better team on the field won.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
The Ducks had more penalties though, including a few phantom holds late in the 3rd quarter.
The refs didn't even come close to deciding this game. The better team on the field won.
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Ryan Mangum 7 months ago
i dont care who is playing, refs cannot manufacture a 27 point victory and 694 yards of offense
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Sorry but the Ducks really aren't the better team, they just came out and played a great game.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
Cry me a F***ing River
I'm not even going to try to use logic when you make a statement like that
Scoreboard
65-38
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Okay. So you, through your own logic, would say OSU is a ligetimatly better team than USC?
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Brett Field 7 months ago
No. OSU beat USC by 6 at home in a game USC obviously wasn't up for. Oregon beat OSU by 27 on the road in a rivalry game with the Rose Bowl on the line.
I don't see how you can say that this Oregon team with its offense coming into its own the last couple games isnt better than the Beavers
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Beavers coming off 5th game in 5 weeks.
Ducks coming off a bye week full of preperation.
No Quizz, Moevao 80%, James Rodgers out middle of game with broken collar bone.
Beavers didn't show up, ducks played over their heads.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
If by middle of the game you mean in the 4th quarter with the game well in hand, then yes, the Beavers did lose James Rodgers in the middle of the game. And how can you say the Beavers didn't show up to A RIVALRY GAME WITH THE ROSE BOWL ON TH LINE
The fact is that OSU doesn't have the atheletes to handle the spread offense, especially when the spread is executed by a qb who knows what hes doing and incredible atheletes at every position. The Beavers are still a good team, hell they tied for second on the Pac-10, its just that the Ducks have become one of the best offenses in the nation now that Masoli is finally comfortable in the offense
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
The beavers defense not athletic? I dare you to find me a faster defense, anyone who knows football knows that the beavers defense is exposed by a strong run game (i.e. ducks) it wasn't the spread part that beat the beavers.
"incredible atheletes at every position." yes ducks have great athletes due to knight and the facilities
but that has hurt you getting athletes not players.
Look at Jaison Williams, amazing athletic spesciman... but he can't catch the ball.
I would take a football player i.e. Sammie and Shane over a great athlete.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
The reason the Ducks spread running game works so well is because it spreads out the defense and forces the linebackers and safetys to make one on one plays vs the runningbacks, which didn't work out to well for the Beavers. If you watch the game over on TV (which I did Sunday morning) You can see numerous instances of Beavers safeties and Linebackers getting simply run past by Johnson, Blount, and Masoli.
The Beavers defense lacks the speed and athleticism of the Ducks d, but has made up for that all season because of Mark Banker's great swarming scheme. If you put the Athletes Oregon has on defense on OSU, they would have one of the best defenses in America. Oregon, on the other hand, with Alliotti at the helm would have one of the worst defenses in America if they had OSUs players.
The problem is, the spread forces defenses out of their typical schemes and requires them to make plays one on one. This is why the OSU defense got torched by Penn State and Oregon
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
I did rewatch it and you know what I saw?
I saw greg laybourn run down Johnson from behind once and stay one step behind him on his long run when he got pushed out by Hughes...the opposite side corner.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
I think you saw guys from the other side of the field who had the right angle run down Johnson(Layborn never did). Did you see Johnson run past a safety on his 87 yarder? Or past the OLB on his 79 yarder? Those guys didnt have a chance.
The fact is, Stroughter, Levitre, Butler, Norris, and your MLB(can't think of his name at this moment) are the only players who would start at Oregon. You can't say that Oregon State has better players. They arguably get more from their talent, especially on defense, but they have nowhere near the talent Oregon has
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Cameron Jerde 7 months ago
Nick-
You are right. Last time I checked, Jacquizz plays defense too, and is the best tackler in FBS. Wow, you're right, it would have been a blowout for the Beavs if Quizz was playing, because not only can he score 28 points by himself (which he's never done), he can also tackle the best running backs in the nation for losses. Wow, he should really go pro this year. I've never seen anyone play offense and defense as well as Jacquizz!
Seriously Nick, get over yourself and the Beavs in general. You cannot use the Quizz excuse unless it was a close game, which it WASN'T. The Ducks slaughtered the Beavers defense, and you cannot blame the absence of Jacquizz for that.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
There was also three Beaver fans who each had a two sided sign. On one side the three sides made up "We" "Love The" "Beavers" and the other side the signs made up "Suck" "It" "Ducks". For about 10 minutes the third guy had it wrong, so they were holding up "Suck" "It" "Beavers". I was cracking up, until he finally realized what he was doing.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Ducks have great players, but I don't know how you can root for that team. I was in sec14. row 7 right behind the duck bench, and to see what little class they represent the program with is just shocking.
I would rather be classy and respected than win a game.
I aint saying I didn't wanna win, Your team showed up and ours didn't.
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Chad Bradbury 7 months ago
Just don't ask ND's student section for tips on being classy like Oregon and Arizona State coaches did.
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Chad Bradbury 7 months ago
I meant Oregon fans and ASU coaches. Most ASU fans are too drunk to know what is even going on.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
Explain to me what the Ducks were doing that was so classless? I saw Lagarrette Blount yelling something into the stands during the Mike Bellotti show, but that doesn't really show classlessness. Not like Jeremy Perry threatening a member of the UO band. Or Lyle Moevao saying after the game It would have been a lot different if we had Quizz.
The fact is, in an emotional game players on both sides of the game will say and do things to rile up the fan base of both sides. Its not that big of a deal
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Oh there were a couple of redshirts or injured i dont know.
# 16 some skinny kid
# 79 an..something
Unger who i was surprised by was out there calling out fans
It was calling out fans, talking shit about rose bowl hopes, taking towels and pretending to throw 'em in like surrender. Asking if the fans wanted a tissue and went to get some towels even threw a couple in.
That was the great part though, its not even starters (besides unger) that are talking all this stuff and they didnt even play.
Belotti is over there and not even talking to them to settle 'em down I guess this is what you can get away with, with good ol' uncle phil watching there backs.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
And how is saying that "it would be a lot different if quizz was in" classless?
It would have been a lot different.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
I'm not saying its classless. Anything short of taking cheapshots on the field (cough, Boise State, cough) can't be considered classless from a player in the heat of a big game. I'm just saying its more classless then the players taunting their rival's fans who I'm sure were laying the shit on pretty good at the start of the game.
And don't even start with Quizz. The Beavers offense wasn't the problem in that game, it was that the defense couldn't stop the Ducks. Unless Quizz could have played safety he wouldnt have affected the outcome much
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
http://i487.photobucket.com/albums/rr233/ducksin2010/IMG_0375.jpg
This is why we were so pumped up to crush your dreams.
If you stopped the Ducks from going to the Rose Bowl, hating them as much as you do, you wouldn't celebrate at all? What you need to realize is that we've been hearing about Beav fans trips to Pasadena already being booked for months. They were handing out roses to fans for god's sake, how can you not expect Duck players/fans to be angry? Not only denying them, but embarrassing them in front of a record crowd is going to get you pumped up. You obviously aren't a fan of this football team, so don't call these players classless; it's one of the best groups we've ever had. It's a rivalry, things like this happen.
Here are some awesome examples of Beaver players showing their class and how respectable they are:
- Ben "I swear I was just taking it for a ride" Seigert kidnapping a gay sheep and getting a DUII in the process.
- Al Afalava convicted of DUI hit-and-run, yet only being suspended for one game.
- Richard Seigler arrested of pimping in Las Vegas after failing to make it in the NFL.
- Several players beating up Iraq war vets.
Need I go on?
The thing is, Oregon did nothing wrong this year. Kevin Garrett was the only player to do anything that violated team rules, and he was kicked off the team as soon as he was found guilty.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Brett: actually the offense could have kept up if Quizz was in
example. Two INT-TDs that wouldnt happen if Moevao didnt have to throw the ball so much
Drives stalled withen the 10 yard line, one where we missed a FG, and goalline is Quizz's specialty
Not to mention McCants fumble on the 7 giving the Ducks the ball yet again.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
So explain this to me:
The Beavers are aloud to complain that they lost by 27 points in an offensive shootout because they were playing with their 2nd string runningback, but when the Ducks lose in double overtime with their 5th string quarterback injuries are part of the game?
And even Canzano admited that Quizz wouldn't have changed the game much because the Beavers weren't stopping the Ducks no matter what and their offense did pretty good without him
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
I personally was disappointed not to see Quiz play. But I don't think it would have made a difference on that day. Here's why, OSU really didn't have a problem moving the ball, so Quiz's impact would have been taking some away from some of the other good things OSU was doing on offense. The other point is that Quiz would have had very little to do with the Defense's inability to stop Oregon on that day.
Different day might have been different, but I don't think his impact would have been huge on that day.
And Nick! I'm still finding difficult to believe that a Beaver would bring up the word class after all the smack that's been written about the Oregon program this season. Plus, I've been to four civil war games at Reaser and have experienced extraordinarily classless events. Drunk dad's yelling obscenities in front of there own kids, yelling the R word at Dixon two years ago, yelling to Bellotti that they had relations (I'm editing) with his wife, WAY more middle fingers at Reaser than I've ever seen at Autzen, and I'm at every one of those games. I can't say that I know how some Beaver fans act when it's not Oregon in their stadium. The civil war might bring out the worst in them, but make no mistake they are the worst I've seen on the road, and I've been to all the PAC-10 venues. So, don't be shocked when you see a lack of class, because you don't have to look too far in your home stadium to see it.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
Oh and Nick, don't even pretend you weren't as sure as all the others from Beaverville that your third string running back was going to play better than both of our starters. If you even want to maintain any credibility, you'll own that.
Saying now after the fact that it would have been different if Quiz was in there is just sour grapes. You really should drop that one. Quiz is great, but saying none of those bad things that happened would have if he'd been in there? It's just too easy to make up "what would have happened" when you know it never will. You know if my dog hadn't died 10 years ago, I probably would have won the lottery. If you don't think I would have, prove it! You can't, so I must be right.
Facts are Quiz didn't play none of us know what would have happened if he had. I wish we could know, but we can't. We all know what happened Saturday night though, and I say since your offense was having little trouble moving the ball, his impact would not have been that significant. Most of the media experts agree, and most of them have been writing up the Beavs all year.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
The point is, is that Quizz being on the field would allow O State to manufacture longer TOP drives keeping the ducks offense off the field.
Quizz hasn't fumbled all year. So he wouldn't have coughed up the ball on the 8. 7 points
Would kept the ball out of Moevao's hands in every 3rd and 2-4 yards situations when he threw 2 INT-TDs 14 points
He is better in the redzone at making something out of nothing, 2 FG attempts inside the 12. 11 point turn around
There are a possible 32 points on the field that Quizz could have very easily made up for due to his history in the redzone.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
And the fumble-TD called back cause the Refs are whistle happy, can't dispute that
7 more points.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
Yah Nick, your right. Beaver were clearly the best team on the field last Saturday. Maybe if Chad Johnson could have played, too, you might be better than a few NFL teams. The ducks were clearly out coached and out played at every position.
I'm sure you were not taking any credit for last years win in Autzen, because of key injuries.
Rodgers is a great back, and he probably has not fumbled. But he did make one big mistake last week by lowering his shoulder and taking that hit straight on. But, you know injuries are just part of the game. How many times did we hear that last year?
By the way, Quiz did not cause that interception that went 40 yards for six. Riley cause that, by calling that play. He could have easily ran the clock out, and went into half time licking some first half wounds. It's funny, all we could hear before the game is that Quiz being gone would not have mattered, because now we would get a look at your "best" back. Now it's, it would be different. Fact is that you don't know how it would be different. The game might have been different or closer, but different doesn't mean a win for the Beavers, it just means different. But your right! The Beavers were clearly the better team on Saturday.....or again, maybe it's just sour grapes, and you have to deal with reality now.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
Nick, you still haven't answered my question
The Beavers are aloud to complain that they lost by 27 points in an offensive shootout because they were playing with their 2nd string runningback, but when the Ducks lose in double overtime with their 5th string quarterback injuries are part of the game?
You guys should have more depth than that at runningback. Oregons 2nd stringer ran for over 100 yards in the CW and will most likely go over 1000 after the bowl game
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Yeah they are. Beavers had a week to prepare without Quizz where as the Dixon went out half a month before the civil war last year including having a UCLA game to prepare your back-ups for the CW
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Brett Field 7 months ago
Actually, the Civil War was 2 weeks after Dixon went down. And the Leaf went down the next game, so that's 1 week for Kempt and Roper to prepare. The Kempt went down.
And Runningback is a position where players should be plugged in more easily than quarterback, as it does not involve the running the entire offense. Not to mention the fact that Dixon was undisputably on a different level than Quizz
Lets just look at it this way. If OSU had a situation like the Ducks' last year, they would have been starting a walk on by the name of Brennan Sit at QB (not sure if he is actually the 5th stringer, but he went to my High School and I know he is deep on the depth chart)
If the Ducks were in the Beavers situation this year they would be starting LaGarrette Blount at Runningback. I think they would be just fine
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
Well you didn't respond to my class comment, so I'll just assume I'm right. Can you really sit there and pout about how the Beavers should have won that civil war? Quizz is a great running back but seriously, there are only a few players in the game that could alter that kind of performance. Your defense gave up 65 points and a school record 694 yards, unless Quizz is an all-Pac-10 safety then I don't see how you can make up for 27 points. Sure he's good in the red zone, but the Ducks played great.
I can't even believe how you can sit there with your hands over your ears and crying because one injury caused your Rose Bowl dreams to disappear after what Duck fans endured over the past year. You think one player who averaged 4.8 YPC is more valuable than your entire recieving corps, 2nd string RB (who smoked your top-10 defense by the way), starting middle linebacker, and leading heisman candidate in Dixon is not the same as Quizz? I believe Brett covered how we only had one week to prepare our 5th string (am I wrong, or do the Beavers not have a 5th string QB this year?). You say that in our offense it is inevitable that QBs will get injured because they are susceptible to the defense, yet you give your tiny back the ball 30 times a game. Don't try and argue that our offense exposes star players more than that.
Don't cry to Duck fans on an article about the Ducks. First you starting complaining about the fans, then, once proven wrong, you move onto whining about injuries as if last years civil war was against a fully healthy Oregon team. You think a little Freshman back who has a long run of 33 yards makes up for 27 points? Then it's pretty safe to say that Dixon is worth a hell of a lot more than the 7 points we lost to you in overtime last year.
In the spirit of this article, I'll quote you and the rest of beaver nation: "no excuses, injuries are apart of the game."
And just because you're being such a petty jerk about this whole thing, let me ask you a few questions. How did you feel when Walter Thurmond III, who is part of that extremely overrated secondary according to you, returned that interception for the TD? How about those 2 (COUNT 'EM, TWO!) 80 yard runs by the back that you are fortunate to not have played against in last years civil war? What about that quarterback who can't run the ball, huh? about 300 yards and 3 TDs, speaks volumes about your fully healthy defense.
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
You can't root for the Ducks because they have little class, yet Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson is one of your favorite athletes? odd logic there...
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
If he went to your school, you would know his name is Sim.
2 weeks=14 days= half month.
But the Ducks are more experianced at RB than the beavs this year, they didn't start a red-shirt freshman with only about 50 maybe carries on the year.
Ha OchoCINCO for life.
Chad isn't classless he does everything out of entertainments sake, he didn't go talk shit(excuse my language) to the dawg pound in cleveland, he jumped in and let them do as they like without a word.
Chad is classier than the ducks program will be if Belotti (now A.D.) and Kelly continue to give their players such a long leash
i.e. drag racing....and drag crashes
I'm not going to be holier than thou. Its no secret OSU had its problems in the post Erickson era after he brought in questionable characters for the sake of some wins. Remind you of anyone
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
You can expect a RB to get 30 carries, I don't wanna go through all of Quizz's highschool stats and carries and TDs but you can take a look if you want
But back to my point. He is a running back, not one of your WR/RB/QB ATH players that have never carried the ball that many times. And running the ball as a QB is a lot more susceptable to injury than running it on a run play.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
So if giving a kid 30 carries is normal and doesn't risk injury, why have your RBs struggles with injuries, missing the last 2 Civil Wars. And why are all the major programs running multiple runningback systems. As for the spread, on almost every QB running play the QB is supposed to get down or out of bounds (Masoli doesn't do this enough, which scares me to hell) So they dont get hit that much.
And maybe you wouldn't have to start a rs freshman with 50 carries if you had depth at runningback or gave the ball to more than 1 back. Injuries to Runningbacks are commonplace and should be planned for, injuries to QBs aren't (especially when its 3 or 4 going down)
By the way, when Oregon has QB injuries that only entail 1 guy being hurt, they have beaten the Beavers 56-14 in 2005 and 65-38 in 2008
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
Moevao, Canfield, Engstrom, Sim; those are your 4 quarterbacks. Even if you do have a 5th stringer (probably your place holder), imagine if he had one week to prepare for the Civil War (Leaf, the 2nd string, was knocked out the next week), do you think he would have the 370 yards and 5 TDs that Moevao had? no.
I'm not going to argue with you about Chad Johnson, although you, and maybe some other Beaver fanboys may be the only ones to think he has even an ounce of class. I don't understand, street racing was the only infraction that went virtually unpunished (the passengers weren't, the driver was), so how is Ocho Cinco classier? Isn't he the one who pulled a Kobe and tried to grab as much attention as he could by flip flopping on trade demands? Isn't he the one who drove Carson Palmer from this franchise (I know he was injured, but he would be gone even if he was healthy because of that prick)? Then you go on to say it's no secret that the Beavers program has it's fair share of infractions...so that doesn't make any sense. Every college football team has these problems, so don't use them in an argument of class. In fact, only 3 team rules were violated this year, and none of those 3 players have played a game, seems like a tight enough leash to me.
Can you tell me why QBs who run the ball maybe 5 times a game and usually go out of bounds or slide are more susceptible to injury than a 5'6" running back who gets 30 carries a game?
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
I love how your acting like you had QB issues.
Masoli has been your QB for 2 months maybe more.
I say that beavers had their share of issues because it was Ericksons style of letting the player do whatever they want if it means getting a win.
With Riley at head coach I dare you to find a program that is more respected and classy than OSU. Belotti is the Urban Meyer/Nick Saban type of coach that all he cares about is winning and not the credibility of his players.
Ill keep bringing up him letting Dixon play in Arizona when he knew Dixon had a stressed ACL.
I hope Kelly can bring some more class to Oregon, they need it.
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Brett Field 7 months ago
So what incidents of classlessness have gone unpunished at Oregon? Kevin Garett was kicked off the team for drunk driving this summer. Al Alfalava was only suspended 1 game for drunk driving. And I'm pretty sure the sheep incident and the beating up of Iraq veterans happened under Riley's watch.
And I'm not acting like the Ducks have quarterback issues. I'm pointing to the depth of the Ducks that the 3rd stringer in his first year in the program who missed all of fall camp can come in and light it up in the last 2 games.
As for Dennis Dixon, It was the player and his father's decision to let him play. Bellotti took himself out of it. Dennis had a chance to do something that very few people, and none in Oregon history, have ever done. It may have been a bad football move, but it wasn't classless
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
I'm struggling to figure out how Oregon has no class (getting really tired of this word), the only players who have done anything wrong were suspended or even kicked off the team.
The only time we had a reliable quarterback has been these past 2 games. Sure Masoli has been around, but he hasn't been great until now. He was injured vs. Boise State, and Chris Harper threw 3 passes the whole game, 2 of them being picks. Games like Purdue, USC, UCLA, and Cal were all horrendous when it came to passing, I'll let you look up the stats.
And besides, I was talking about our QB problems last year when I said you don't even have a 5th string QB. I don't recall Masoli being on the team last year.
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John B 7 months ago
I found most of the Beaver fans to be pleasant and good-humored throughout the game. A couple of off-color comments as we left the field. I've learned, especially on the rivals' turf, to just smile and say "Thank you." Drives 'em nuts!
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
That was mostly my experience as well, and we sat in a mostly Beaver section. There was one really bad incident, but the entire section was irate at him. He took out one duck fan, but actually hurt about 5 Beaver fans below him.
I was just blown away by how many things the Beaver fans booed. Fans boo at Autzen, we all know that after this year. However, normally fans don't boo simple holding calls, or illegal blocking calls. Beaver fans boo them all as if there team cannot make those kinds of mistakes. It also seemed like every time the ducks batted a ball down, all the fans wanted pass interference. What's that all about? I've been to every pac-10 venue, and I just found myself wondering "seriously?" way more than other stadiums.
Beaver's got clearly hosed on the blown whistle call, boo the heck out of that one. But don't boo a holding call, that's just week.
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Ed Emberlin 7 months ago
John,
I have to agree. We were in teh beavers section with tickets from an OSU friend. We were nice and the fans around us were nice. Some borderline suicidal but kind to us. I had 2 comments that I liked best.
1) end of the 3rd quarter. The completely DIE HARD beaver fan next to me, who was very knowledgable and very passionate..."See ya next year" and he left the game =)
SIDE NOTE: I couldn't believe that fans left at the 3rd quarter break....I'd guess about 10%...WOW!
2) Walking out with my wife 2 fraternity drunks were continuing to yell "HIPPY...YOU"RE ALL HIPPPIES"
I jsut kindly showed him my cowboy boots and pockets knife and he just sat there looking confused and drunk =)
Great game. Beaver fans aroud me were as good as could be expected.
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Nate Dunn 7 months ago
I have no problem mocking Beaver fans about have the Rose Bowl taken away especially after all the crap we heard last year and all this year. Especially on the online boards before the Civil War. Here's some samples for ya that I saved and have come in handy:
OreStateBB (11/15/2008 at 10:29 PM)
"All you Duck Fans will get a rude awakening in two weeks. The Arrogant Ducks, their SILLY feathered uniforms and classless Fans will be picking up the pieces (Clipped Feathers) and making cry towels for the long drive back to San Fransisco North (Eugene). I can see all the excuses flying from the Leftist Guard (Local Paper) on Sunday morning... Rose Bowl or not, the Ducks will not even score one touchdown... See ya in two weeks GIRL'S!"
droath56 (11/26/2008 at 5:53 PM) Report Violation
Staties have been begging for respect. I think your opinion of the ducks may be a little strong. As for any re-matches...USC will not get one, but Penn State will. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying the beav's will blow out the ducks, but I am saying that the ducks will not win in Reser this saturday. Earlier prediction: OSU 34 UofO 32. Please see my earlier comment for any needed details.
shawba08 (11/27/2008 at 11:29 AM) Report Violation
Like always ducks have more talent but beavers will femind a way to beat them. Beavers dont match up against USC and win, Ducks match up well and get blown out. Beavers are the real deal ducks just wish they knew how to use all that talent.
*This next comment was stated after the Ducks trounced ASU on the road.*
irtehmanny (10/28/2008 at 1:04 AM)
"I think the Oregon we saw against USC and Boise State was the real team. They're not that great. "
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Coach Brooks 7 months ago
I've never laughed that hard since Pettibone was their Head Coach - it's always awesome making a big batch of Beaver Cookies (Recipe: Beat them for three hours and then take them out of the bowl)
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Nick Lilja 7 months ago
To jump in on the conversation above... I was on the field at times and the Oregon players who were talking trash to the fans was absurd. I've never seen anything that lame—and I use that term judiciously.
Any person that is athletic enough to compete in college shouldn't have to defend themselves from or antagonize fans. The players should stay in their bubble.
Those players were classless.
As for the game, the Beavers got beat. Badly. Leave it at that. It's one game, it will happen next year, same time same channel. Rodgers playing or not playing is irrelevant—take it from Riley's comments after the game.
As for the article, John Canzano is one of the best columnists in the nation. Just because he is an outsider to all of you Oregonians doesn't mean he isn't one hell of a writer. Most folks on here don't come close.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
I'm certainly not a Canzano basher, but I'll put up George Schroeder against Canzano anytime. That's not a homer statement either. George has called the Ducks from bad to mediocre this season, and been very critical of them at times this season. He's praised the Beavers several times. He brings an outsider's perspective to a pretty partisan community. Difference is that he doesn't let his contempt for a certain program dictate the direction of hi column. Instead he points to the differences, and builds on them to hopefully enhance the fans knowledge and experiences. Canzano sometimes can just be a broken record with negativity. Having said that, I've enjoyed several of his columns. Not one of the best though, sorry.
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Nick Lilja 7 months ago
I should back up a tad. I think he is in the top 15 and one of the most under-rated. I haven't read much of Schroeder'r work, so I can't make a similar comparison.
As for the negativity and the broken record... it'r true. But when Canzano steps away from that, he is pretty darn good.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
Granted....like I said, I don't mean to bash him.
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John B 7 months ago
I really think the vast majority of Beaver and Duck fans are good people who love football and love their teams. My chief gripe is that they're mostly frontrunners--the Beavers never sold more than 8,600 season tickets before Dennis Erickson made them winners, and most Duck fans were not paying attention until the Rose Bowl season in '94. I distinctly remember people calling for Rich Brooks' hide at the Utah game that year, before the Ducks began their remarkable run.
There are vocal idiots at every game, the type who have limited understanding of the game but think that their ticket entitles them to say whatever they want to whomever they want. Just this year, I've seen Duck "fans" obscenely taunt their own QB--while he was leading the team down the field on the game-winning, fourth quarter drive. I've seen Beaver "fans" heap abuse on Mike Riley in a close game that the Beavs eventually pulled out. It is futile and pointless to try to characterize one group or the other as more or less classless than the other, just as it is inaccurate to say that all fans or even a majority of fans are that way.
When someone at a sporting event taunts or boos a player or coach, I visualize that person soiling himself if he was ever confronted, one on one, with the person he taunted. Because that is exactly what would happen.
Best quote by a Beaver Fan to me? "Good game, we'll get you next year!"
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
John, I do have to say that the new generation of fan is starting to annoy me. It seems that their quality of life hinges on the success of the team that they are "supporting". Yet, when things don't go a certain way they turn very quickly, and start to point fingers to the players and coaches as if they had some kind of input first of all, and secondly, they know better than well...the rest of us. Usually it is clear they want to put their knowledge on display, but usually end up proving their ignorance.
Fan base was actually pretty good leading up to 1994. It was late 80's until Musgrave's senior year that you could buy a general admission ticket ($8 for high school age), and then go sit on the 40 yard line in an empty seat, and watch Troy Aikman play.
While at the Civil War last week, this 5 year old girl kept coming back to me and yelling "Go Beavers!" I told her, "That's right! You support your team no matter what!" No need to breed more fair weather no it all fans.
Some Duck fans showed no class when they booed their own players this year (I couldn't stand that), and Beaver fans show no class by yelling at Dixon and calling him the R word about 100+ times two years ago, and yelling at Bellotti that they had relations with his wife, all while his 10 year old son was sitting next to him. There's a future idiot fan, who never really had a chance. So, we can all call each other's fans classless, and we can all be right. Problem is that we are also all wrong to generalize.
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Nick Martin 7 months ago
Every team has its classless fans, but what Im saying is that it is Belotti's and his teams responsibilty to not involve themselves in bantar with the fans.
Players need to stay in their bubble no matter whats going on behind them, face forward and ignore it.
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Cory Neu 7 months ago
Nick, have you ever been to a civil war game at Autzen? The Beavs were just as bad, if not worse about playing to the crowd. Have you ever been to any road game? If you don't agree with that statement, then you have either never been to a civil war at Autzen, or you are just looking at your team and players through your "Love Goggles". There is always banter between visiting players and the crowd. Some one the sidelines, and some on the field when making a play.
I know that when I played high school hoops, I used to love opposing gym and fans. Fans would give me a hard time, and when I made a play I gave it right back. It was one of the best things about competing. I still have friends who I played against in those days (been quite some time now), and we still have laughs. Thicken your skin, because I don't hear a lot of beavers fans who don't see this topic going both ways.
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Travis Rice 7 months ago
"A friend who was there told me he heard all of these" RIGHT
Ok here's how it goes.
1) Yes with Quizz in the game, there is more ball control and eh...maybe no pick-6. HOWEVER, the defense still doesn't stop the run. Game ends something like 45ish to 31ish. You couldn't stop us either. 2 pick 6, two fumbles, and a missed FG is about all your D did (stopped the run, yes, but McCants seemed to stop himself!). So not as bad, but still a decisive win for Duckyville.
2) You Ducks call out OSU fans for saying "we believe McCants/Francis will pick up the slack" This is OSU fans having belief in their team and NOT MAKING EXCUSES. Had we said otherwise, you'd be all over us about "complaining about not having quizz" I never remember anyone saying they were AS GOOD as your backs, anyone who'd say that is stupid. Quizz is equal, but not McCants, that clearly shown with his tiptoeing to the line (the times he even made it to the line)
3) To say that only two/three players for OSU would start for UofO is ridiculous. No possible way to measure that. It's just Duck fans thinking that their players walk on water and are worthy of their 5/4 star ratings, which we all know they aren't (most of them). Levitre (All-American) and Thompson would start. As would Stroughter and possibly Morales (Mike Hass reborn aka Jaison Williams with a set of hands, but smaller). Although he had a bad game Kristick is better than your backers, the kid is violent and flies around. So off the top of my head, there's about 5 guys who'd more than likely see the field a lot. But again, not measureable...as mentioned it's about schemes and what is needed to properly run it.
4) As far as players and being cheap towards the fans, you know the fans had to be egging them on the whole time and shouting at them. The difference is they aren't able to rise above the drunk fan's level and win with class. And Bellotti...he doesn't care, he just wants the recognition for the win and some more $$$. You know it would pi$$ me off as a fan more if the guy ignored me after an entire game of yelling. I didn't see any of this, but it sounds like it was pretty blatant. And on that same note I heard some OSU fans threw paint on our band so...clearly OSU has plenty of their own JackA's. Reflected in the 87 kids kicked out for alcohol infractions...many before the opening kick off.
5) The comments about being completely over matched and shut down offensively is ridiculous. 1 dimentional team managed to put up 38 and throw for 5 TD's Better D?? How'd your defense do against USC? or Boise State? After the Penn State game and up to the Oregon game, OSU's defense was practically lights out. This after replacing 8 starters. One awful possession against Utah that cost them the game was about the only blemish in that long 6 game or so stretch.
6) OSU had to win out to get the RB since week 4. An inspired ASU team w/former coach DE, @UCLA where Riley hadn't won in 9 tries, a ranked Cal team with revenge on it's mind, Arizona who's always tough with ranked teams in November, and a ranked UofO in the CW is what they were up against. They accomplished all but the last, and that is incredible. OSU was clearly a step slower on defense, but to say it was because of inferior athleticism is a bit much. 2 weeks to rest/get ready helped a ton. Masoli does look good in that offense now I will say and ran it to perfection.
It's as if Oregon fans believe their team is in fact that much better. Well on November 29th, you certainly were. You were in a different league than OSU and it showed. But when you think about it, what'd the win get you? Even with OSU in the standings, tied in 2nd. Sure you'll get the Holiday Bowl bid, and rightfully so. But OSU did have a chance to go to the Rose Bowl under their own power...Oregon never did.
Great season for both. Hopefully Oklahoma State and Pitt find out what top level Pac-10 competition is really all about. Here's to great seasons in 2009.
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Mike Turnell 7 months ago
The win got us in a better bowl, not to mention the Ducks creamed them. Sure OS had the opportunity to get into the Rose Bowl to be inevitably killed (yet again) by Penn State, but I remember something about last year...maybe the NC chance?
Beaver fans seem to forget what happened last year and what was said. After OS beat the Ducks, they were just as mean and rude as Duck fans are now, and you can't deny that. You may have had the opportunity to sneak into the Rose Bowl while not even in the top-15, but the Ducks were #2 and a step away from a National Title berth. I'm not usually one to make excuses, but you just said the exact same thing with your "But OSU did have a chance to go to the Rose Bowl under their own power...Oregon never did. " line.
They played great in their winning streak, with the exception of ASU. You can spin it any way you want, that was a sloppy game against a bad team who you should have killed.
I agree the Duck's defense was bad, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the Offense absolutely destroyed. Any time you give up 65 (almost 75, if not for the shoe-string tackle on the fumble recovery) and 700 yards of offense you will lose. period.
What I really want to say is that no team is without classless fans or players. Sure our players were taunting fans, but is that as bad as a DUI hit and run, and only being suspended for one game (Al Afalava)? How about Jeremy Perry threatening members of the UO band? And it can't get as bad as players beating up Iraq war vets for no reason while drunk. Or maybe you want more about the fans. Throwing paint on the band, putting rubber ducks in the urinals, and even making fun of Todd Doxey for DYING (completely true? As I said before...need I go on? I'm sure there are some classless duck fans out there, but don't act like Beaver fans are a bunch of nuns.
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Travis Rice 7 months ago
Wow...that was way too long...sorry
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Travis Rice 7 months ago
oh yeah...and NO ONE like Canzano
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