Ohio State and Michigan are without a doubt the most storied programs in the Big Ten and every year they compete for bragging rights.
This offseason they are competing for one of the highest profiled high school football players in recent history. The battle has been a contentious one, so if you are unaware of this, you must have been living under a rock for the past six months.
Whether Terrelle Pryor attends Ohio State or Michigan, there is no doubt he will be a dual threat quarterback. He will average 100 yards rushing every game, and each autumn Saturday hundreds of thousands of fans will don his jersey.
When it comes to deciding between Ohio State and Michigan, you’ll see the differences are night and day. I think the biggest difference is that at Ohio State, Pryor would be surrounded by players who are all just as talented he is. He would be sure to win the last game of the regular season every year and have several chances to help his team to a national title.
Rich Rodriguez did not prove anything to me at West Virginia, except that he can recruit athletic players and get them to be more athletic than the opposition. The Big Ten may be down right now as a conference, but there is still a good deal of major talent in the Big East. Anyway, it takes more than talent to win in the Big Ten (ask Lloyd Carr about last year).
And it’s not hard to run the offense that Rodriguez runs. Ohio State could install that offense overnight if they wanted to (but they won’t).
Pryor needs to look at this situation as a business decision. Which program and coach will better prepare him for the NFL and increase his earning potential?
The only obstacles to Pryor’s making it into the NFL would be if he were unable to prove he can throw the ball, or if he were to be injured.
At Michigan, Rich Rodriguez will be pressured to win and he would call on Pryor to run the ball nearly 25 times a game. This would take its toll on Pryor, physically, and increase the possibility of injury. Should Pryor choose Michigan, he will risk injury and he will not be given the chance to showcase his arm nearly as much.
On the other hand, at Ohio State Jim Tressel will have him throw the ball because his team thrives on a balanced offense; in the Big Ten you never know what kind of weather conditions you will be playing in. Pryor would also have less risk for an injury because Ohio State already has other players more than capable of handling the ball. In fact, Ohio almost always has one of the best offensive lines in the country.
I do believe that Tressel would have Pryor run the ball (that is Pryor’s main strength). I am pretty sure that Tressel likes to run the ball and control that clock.
Being prepared for the NFL is what really matters in the long run, and if Terrelle Pryor's main goal is to make a career out of football, Michigan and Rich Rodriguez are not the answers.
It’s a no-brainer.
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8 months ago
You have no clue. Tell me of one OSU grad who is starting on a NFL team today? Tell me of any that have been a starter in the last 10 years? The talent at UM is as good or better than that of OSU - your argument is senseless, as Michigan has had great recruiting classes every year. Further, with UM, you not only get a great football program, you get a great education - most college football players won't make it to the pros - a UM degree is much more valuable that an OSU degree. At UM, you also get the atmosphere and environment of the Big House and Ann Arbor - Columbus is such a boring place. Next time, make sure what you write about actually has some validity.
from about 1 month ago
A.J. Hawk...Maybe you should research before you talk.
8 months ago
You are right
But then again you are not Terrelle Pryor. Terrelle Pryor is going to do what Terrelle Pryor wants to do. God only knows what his desires are.
8 months ago
If you doubt Michigan's talent and whether it is NFL worthy, watch the Super Bowl.
8 months ago
PAY UP DEAD BEAT
8 months ago
Troy Smith started for Baltimore the last two games of the season... Mike Doss started his frist 4 years for Indy and got his Super Bowl ring last year... AJ Hawk is already one of the most dominating linebackers in the nation for the Packers... I could go on and on...
poor poor little whiney michigan fans...get ready for another November cankickin'
from 8 months ago
who troy smith started two games and mike doss starts and aj hawk is pretty goo definatley not most dominating but lets look at UM i believe that we had two straring quarter backs in the playoffs (one of which is named tom brady and is arguibly the greatest player to play the game) and the other is todd collins who led the redskins to the playoffs. we also had a man braylon edwards who was 2nd in the nfl in recieving touchdowns behind only a record breaking year from moss. we also the highest paid ofensive lineman in the nfl in hutchinson who anchored the way for petersons great year. charles woodson is starting corner for the packers. marlin jackson who had the int to send the colts to the super bowl. ty law who did fairly well in the playoffs with new england umm....3 picks against peyton manning. the last great player you had is in jail for christs sake. so i dont know but if i was pryor i think id choose the winningest program in ncaa football history and the and a great nfl alumni but i dont know maybe he'll go to columbus and go to an nc and lose to a florida team that michigan just beat with a heisman winning tebow and also suck ass in the pros but who am i kidding
8 months ago
Columbus boring??? Give me a break. That's why you can read a book in the "big hole". As far as developing a quarterback capable of playing at the next level, I wouldn't put to much faith in coach ramrod. I don't even want to hear about Tom Brady as your evidence that Michigan develops quaterbacks..he made it to the NFL inspite of scUM. Breaking out the "UM is a more valuable degree than OSU so he should go there" arguement is bogus. If that were the case Yale would be a perennial football powerhouse. I think if Pryor wants to start right away he will go to Michigan and if he wants to be on a winning team right away he will go to OSU. Any logical fan would admit Michigan needs Pryor way more than OSU does. It should be interesting to see what happens though.
8 months ago
This is why the bleacher report is GAY....non-sports players, non-sports writers, applying there biased vision without any personal or professional knowledge. Disclaimer should read : BEWARE IDIOTS WITH UNFETTERED INTERNET ACCESS!"
8 months ago
TP isnt going to go to a Michigan team that runs a spread offense that doesnt show at all in the NFL...He is also not going to risk injury by constantly running the ball in the spread for 3 years in a conference that dominates againt the run...he ALSO isnt going to go to a team that is still fresh, both on the coaching side of things and with the players as well...would you rather go into a system that is both new to the conference and the team, half of which were Carr's recruits who ran under an ENTIRELY different offensive scheme for the past 4 years, or would you go to a school where you are surrounded by the same individual talent as you, will be working under an All-American QB and future Heisman RB and a NC proven coach? Id take the obvious, no brainer choce over DickRod any day. That coach is the biggest disappointment to the B10 since your embarrassing loss to AppSt last year...btw what shirt size do you where will? I got an "I [heart] App St." shirt and its just a size too big.
8 months ago
Clearly, "Anonymous," from an hour ago has no clue. I grew up attending many Michigan games because I lived in proximity in Toledo, Ohio. I ultimately graduated from Ohio State and lived in Columbus. There is no way to compare the two?! Prunes to apples?
I would have to believe that Terrelle Pryor's decision will not be made by how much more valuable a UM degree is than one from OSU - according to, "Anonymous." With Pryor's ability, I would be willing to bet that eventually playing in the NFL will outweigh his educational goals, as they do with most athletes of his caliber.
By the way, "Anonymous," did you receive your college degree from Michigan?
I will send a separate listing of the former Ohio State players listed on NFL rosters. There are too many starters to even name:
Regards,
Brad Halhober '92 Go BUCKS!
8 months ago
nick come talk to me when you beat an sec team in a bowl game okay? who did u guys do the last 2 years? the only 2 days out of the year i want osu to win they choke big time. i believe we knocked the shit out florida who was favored by a bunch of points this year. and yes i will admit our app st. loss was terrible for the big ten but now you guys have given the big ten a name that is slow and unable to beat an sec team. lsu was the first time ever a team went to the nc with two losses and you guys got rocked. in two years when mcguffie develops and pryor devolps (if he decides to come) we'll see whos laughing. o and i just got a gay sweater vest for chistmas, wat size are u
8 months ago
Continuation from reply to, "Anonymous," from an hour ago... There are 48 OSU players currently listed on NFL rosters. Many of them are starters. Go to www.databasefootball.com to get the listing.
Brad Halhober
8 months ago
I am a medium and I would love it thanks....gratz you guys beating Florida btw...I actually rooted for you guys...I wore my AppSt shirt and everything...and it really doesnt matter what you say because arguing with a Mishitgan fan this year is pointless...
It is a fact now that Michigan has given itself the greatest of all humiliations in the world of sports. You guys gave up the worst loss in NCAA collegiate sports history and there is NOTHING you can say or do to change that. Complain, bitch, moan all you want, but 100 years from now, people will still point and laugh at you guys. You are the bitch sheep of the conference, especially now with dickrod behind the dragwheel driving the short bus through Ann Arbor (whose still a whore). You guya can go hang out with the rest of the bitch sheep (Northwestern, Minnesota, Purdue) and hold each other next season as you (GASP!) embarrass yourselves some more. Why not top last season? LOSE EVERY GAME! That'll make people forget last year, yea!
As for the last 2 years...yes OSU choked in the NC game...wait thats right... WE WENT TO THE NC GAME TWO YEARS IN A ROW!!! Last year we went dual sports! Regardless what you say, we WENT to the NC game. Only 2 teams in the nation can say they ACTUALLY GO to the NC game and we were one of em! As a matter of fact we have been to a BCS bowl game almost every year JT has been coaching us! I know you guys cant say the same (2-8 in bowl games in the last decade?)
Keep the crapfest comin will...your gonna make next November that much more enjoyable.
8 months ago
You're disgusting. Did you graduate high school?
8 months ago
I was referring to Quarterbacks, which is the position Terrelle Pryor plays. Troy Smith lasts another year in the NFL - max 2.
8 months ago
Re Will Revis post. What a foul mouthed individual. Obviously from Ohio State. Cant carry on an adult conversation without resorting to pure idiocy.
Bottom line is Michigan incorporated character in all recruits and sometimes doesnt get the best athletes because of that. Look at MC as an example. And yes, you did have one QB in the pros, but once again, his character showed through and he gambled his way out of the NFL and into prison.
THE major difference between UofM and OSU is OSU will do ANYTHING to win. Character flaws, arrest records and everything else be damned. Michigan will take an athlete with only 3 or 4 stars and a good upbringing before they sell there soul for a win.
from 8 months ago
As a matter of fact, I went to Michigan and you gargle with semen.
8 months ago
Yeah, you went there and didnt graduate did you? Grades? To tough? NOBODY with a degree from as hallowed a college as Michigan talks gutter trash like you do. NOBODY. You dropped out, work a bullshit job because of it, hate life and blame everybody but yourself and so you talk like a street punk. Still live with Mommy and Daddy?
8 months ago
This may have been the most biased and blatantly ignorant thing I've read all day. Rich Rod didn't prove anything to you at WV? He won 2 bcs games with a qb that couldn't pass downfield. That in itself would be enough to impress the average Joe Schmo.
8 months ago
True story
A farmer outside of Columbus was working with his cattle one day
when he heard the faint sound of music coming from a nearby source. After
hunting about for some time, he discovered the sound was loudest near one
particular calf, and was even louder near the calf's tail. Putting his head
close to the calf's hind end, he heard the Ohio State fight song.
Amazed, he immediately put the calf in the back of his pickup truck and drove
the animal to a veterinarian in Columbus.
When the vet asked him what was going on, the farmer told him his
story.
The vet went around behind the calf and gave a listen. He casually
agreed that he, too, heard the Ohio State fight song, but did
not appear particularly excited, perhaps even bored.
"Man, this is unbelievable!" the farmer exclaimed. "How can you
stand there and not be amazed?"
The vet, a third generation University of Michigan graduate,
calmly replied, "Hell, Bud, I'm a Wolverine and I've been listening to ass
holes sing that song my whole life."
M GO BLUE !!!!!!!!!!!!
8 months ago
Last time I checked, the spread option isn't run in the NFL. Obviously he wants to improve as a QB, rather than an athlete, so why not OSU?
8 months ago
Please this is a bunch of bull, Pryor visited Michigan Last weekend and RR showed Pryor exactly what he kind of offense he wants him to run. Pryor even told the press that RR wants him to throw the ball more then to run the ball. HELLO!!!! Obviously the guy who wrote this Article is from California and don't know what the hell he is Talking about. Yes Ohio State may have more talent as of right now, but Michigan lost alot of their starters to the NFL and a coach who retired. Give Michigan a year or so to Recruit and granted
we get Pryor on Feb 6th Michigan will be back on Top of the big ten. Now here are some statistics that this Clueless writer forgot to Mention. The past 2 years Ohio State lost in the national Chapmionship by whhat kind of a offense? A spread offense. Michigan Last year had their butts handed to them by Oregon who is what? A spread offense. I am not choosing sides here but I am simply saying the no team before now could defend against a spread offense. Now that Michigan is running the spread Ohio State is gonna have trouble defending against Michigan because they proved year after year that the can not defend well against the spread. So if Pryor wants to go to a school that makes him comfortable and a school that Runs his Style of offense, and will more then likely be at the top of the Big Ten in a few years he will choose Michigan.
8 months ago
"Which program and coach will better prepare him for the NFL and increase his earning potential? [...] The only obstacles to Pryor’s making it into the NFL would be if he were unable to prove he can throw the ball, or if he were to be injured. [...] Being prepared for the NFL is what really matters in the long run, and if Terrelle Pryor's main goal is to make a career out of football, Michigan and Rich Rodriguez are not the answers."
Pryor does not want to play in the NFL. He eyes a NBA career, as he told USA Today in December 2007.
USA Today's question: "NBA or NFL?"
Pryor's answer: "The NBA. You can play longer because you don't get beat up as much."
8 months ago
Please that is Bull to. Where do you get your information? It was just in the news Pryor said that he prob wont play basketball in college. He wants to focus mostly on his football career and that it would just be to difficult to play both sports in college. He wants to beable to have some free time he said and if he were to play both he would never be able to relax. Read the news before you post bogus comments bro.
8 months ago
NFL starters in the last 10 years? OK. Antoine Winfield, Dan Wilkinson, Donte Whitner, Mike Vrabel, Korey Stringer, Shawn Springs, Alonzo Spellman, Robert Smith, Orlando Pace, AJ Hawk, Santonio Holmes, Anthony Gonzalez, Ted Ginn, Terry Glenn, Joey Galloway, Mike Doss....along with several others I've left off this list.
Are you nuts? OSU puts players into the NFL, particularly under Jim Tressel. Michigan puts players into the NFL as well. But your opening question about an alleged lack of starters in the NFL from Ohio State over the last 10 years speaks volumes about your IQ.
Secondly, no employer of any stature looks at a degree from UM vs. a degree from OSU and says "one is more valuable than the other."
How are things there in la-la land there anonymous?
8 months ago
What Michigan has done in the past is irrelevant. In the past there was NFL caliber talent and there will continue to be, but not at QB. The pressure is on Rodriguez to win and I can tell you, without a doubt, that it won't be next year. OSU brings back the entire team besides Gholston. Pryor will be thrown to the wolves at Michigan, and that is not good for a young QB who needs to learn, especially the passing game. I believe that he has already made up his mind and will go with the sure thing in Tressel and OSU. Rodriguez needs to establish himself first and if he does so, only then will he get more top caliber talent.
8 months ago
i can tell your an ohio state fan. nobody else would write something so stupid. pryor wants to run the football, so he should go to michigan.
8 months ago
Overall Players
Michigan (44) - Michigan has 44 players in the NFL which isn't too shabby, but not enough to beat the Buckeyes.
Ohio St. (48) - The Buckeyes take the final category with a 4 player edge over the Wolverines.
You're an idiot (last post) Pryor wants to go to the NFL and he won't go as a QB in a Rodriguez coached system.
8 months ago
We're talking NFL starting QB's - how many from OSU in the last 10 years? Every hyped up QB that went to OSU out of high school basically flopped in college - it will be the same if Terrelle goes there. Ohio State is the professional graveyard for quarterbacks. Stay away from OSU Terrelle!!!
from 8 months ago
anyone arguing who produces more starting qb's in the NFL is a fool....how many times does a big prospect from high school actually go to a good college and become an instant starter in the NFL you are all foolish
8 months ago
Obviously you know nothing about football there are several OSU players that are starters in the NFL. Mike Vrabel is a starter for the undefeated patriots and he went to OSU. Santonio Holmes is a starter for the steelers. Will Smith is a starter for the saints. Mike nugent starter for the jets. AJ Hawks starts for the packers. Shawn springs starts for the redskins. Anthony Gonzalez starts for the Colts. If this is the value of a U of M education then it's not worth the paper it's printed on because with arguments that idiotic there grads obviously lack the ability to think logically.
8 months ago
I'm confused, I thought this article was to be about Pryor's deciding which school he was going to attend? Why is everyone talking shit between OSU and UM?
I am an OSU fan and have been since birth. OSU hasn't always been dominant however. Remember the years of Charles Woodson? Not to much fun, but thats the fun of being a fan, you support your team through thick and thin. I am not going to come on here and say that OSU is a better school or that UM sucks. It's stupid and pointless. The fact of the matter is either way it looks like Terrelle Pryor is going to end up at a Big Ten school which should end up bringing the Big Ten back to greatness. Whether is Scarlet and gray or in Maize and blue its going to be damn exciting to watch this kid play and Big Ten fans should be excited about that. Obviously, however, I would love to see him in Columbus come next september. But again the fact of the matter is Pryor only knows what he wants. If i were 18 again I know I would want to play right away, which is what UM is offering, its not a guarantee at OSU.
So good luck to Terrelle and I can't wait to watch him play.
Go Buckeyes!
8 months ago
Harbaugh, Collins, Griese, Brady - - - and soon, Henne - who, for the ignorant out there, may be up there with Brady when all is said and done.
These are all products of Michigan's old system, of course. But Michigan IS QB U for the NFL right now, ironically. I agree that RR's system does not fit the NFL right now, but Pryor does not fit pro-style offense anyway - his passing is pretty good, but he doesn't have the ball speed of a Henne or Manning. His running and vision are his real weapons. But it doesn't matter - he'll get a zillion touches as QB without getting beat up at Michigan. And if you think RR won't have better resources that at WV, wake up. They'll take care of him. Michigan will always be loaded with running backs - and already is, especially with McGuffie coming in as a ridiculous speed and elusive RB threat. When Pryor runs, he'll have lots of room since they can't key on just him. And, he's a big guy - he'll be just fine.
When he wins the Heisman at Michigan, he'll have plenty of leverage on draft day. Or he can suffer the fate of the OSU QB in the NFL... mediocrity.
Plus, at Michigan, he'll probably have the option of basketball next year or the year after IF he wants it. Beilein is still rebuilding with slots open and has already been looking at football players - and he wouldn't need a scholarship for BB, so he could try it if he wants and bail if it doesn't work.
He'll be ruined at corrupt OSU... especially if they finally get busted. They've come close lately - - think Maurice Clarette dreamed up ALL of that? Or maybe all of it just helped turn him into a nut. In that case, OSU football is even worse than I thought, ruining a kid they should have kept under control and helped manage. Funny how very similar allegations were raised when the Sweatervest was at Youngstown State. But let ESPN tell the story: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867. And how do top players in the country decide to go to OSU from out of state when they had a brand new, unproven coach? I asked a friend in Columbus that - he said, "What do YOU think?" Tough to win a Heisman under NCAA restrictions... I'm just sayin'... ;-)
He ain't comin' to Texas, so I'd rather see him at Michigan than OSU. Despite the RR hiring business, Michigan and most Big Ten schools are class, clean programs.
8 months ago
You established yourself as a total retard when you said Henne could be the next Brady. After that, nobody on earth is going to care what you have to say.
How's he going to win the Heisman at Michigan when they're only winning 8 games a year?
8 months ago
aj hawk- starting.
chris gamble- starting.
shane olivea- starting, chargers RT.
troy smith- starting. and undefeated against you dirty smelly little skunkbears. bitch.
mike doss, four year starter.
donte whitner- starting. and dominating.
ted ginn- starting.
anthony gonzales- getting reps in the COLTS wideout corp as a rook. HE WAS OUR #2. ugh....whered david terell end up?
nail diggs- started for the packers for several years at outside backer.
nick mangold- starting. and dominating.
will smith- starting.
if you want me to continue, i will. you sound like your bitter old ex-coach with all this pissing and moaning. oh ya, some food for thought. ohio state has more players in the NFL right now than michigan does. so...youre dumb. go to espn.com and look it up. and for the last fucking time, ur shitty program won all of your games in like 1912.....the series is virtually tied since woody hayes became the head ball coach. check your facts before you run your mouth to buckeye fans......we actually know football. oh ya, and last but not least.....EDDIE GEORGE. you know...former NFL MVP....dumbass.
from 8 months ago
That's all well and dandy but besides Troy Smith how many Quarterbacks do you have starting in the league? Is Troy smith even gonna be the starter next year on top of that?
8 months ago
If you want to talk about cheating, don't forget Chris Webber. Here is the wikepedia article:
In 2002, Webber was charged for lying to a grand jury as part of a larger investigation of a numbers gambling operation, run by Ed Martin, a booster of the University of Michigan basketball program, in Ford Motor Company plants in the Detroit area. The investigation, originally focused on the numbers operation and tax evasion, soon widened to include the University of Michigan basketball program. Martin was convicted on counts of tax evasion and robbery was scheduled to testify on the financial connections between himself and Webber at a sentencing hearing, but died of a heart attack before the hearing.
As a result of evidence admitted during the course of Martin's trial, Webber pled guilty to one count of criminal contempt for lying about his role in a scandal in which four players, including himself, were found to have been accepting money and prostitutes well before they came to Michigan. Martin had been paying Webber since the 8th grade. He admitted in the plea that in 1994 he gave Martin about $38,000 in cash as partial repayment for expenditures Martin made on his behalf.[12]
Due to concerns that Webber's amateur status had been compromised, Michigan forfeited its victory in the 1992 Final Four over Cincinnati, as well as its runner-up status in the 1992 tourney. Michigan also forfeited the entire 1992-93 season, removed the 1992 and 1993 Final Four banners from the Crisler Arena rafters, and deleted Webber's records from its record book. The NCAA also ordered Michigan to disassociate itself from Webber until 2012. Webber later called Michigan's decision "hurtful" because he and his Fab Five teammates "gave everything to Michigan" while they played there.
8 months ago
I cannot believe someone just questioned how many OSU players are in the league right now. Do you watch football? i would list some OSU guys but people have already told you what's what.
As for Terrelle Pryor, I do agree with the idea of going to OSU over Michigan because Rodriguez's offense will not showcase his arm. Now maybe we're underestimating Rodriguez and maybe he'll balance his offense a little, but I doubt it. I dont think he's a great in-game coach, he just runs an offense that I believe is hit or miss. West Virginia ran all over Oklahoma but South Florida and Pitt shut them down. And I'm sorry, Pitt sucks.
I think Pryor has a chance to to succeed from jump with Ohio State, even if he's not the starter. I know, Pryor NOT starting? He may see time sparingly BEHIND Boeckman, if Boeckman outplays him in spring training. If Pryor chooses Mich, he gets the job, no competition, no work, no nothing. All his eggs are in his "first-few-games" basket. If he comes to OSU, he has a chance to show how good he is before the season starts, gain some confidence heading into the season, and like the article says, he's got one of the top offensive lines in front of him, Robiskie to his left, Hartline to his right, Beanie Wells (a possible Heisman candidate) behind him, Brandon Saine on the sideline, and a defense that will get the ball back to him over and over again.
The bottom line is, there are QUESTION marks at Michigan, the only question that is answered at Mich is that they will be running the spread option. At OSU, you have stability, seasoned talent, and a coach who will utilize him properly. You didn't see Troy Smith getting himself knocked around, unlike Pat White, Tim Tebow, or Juice Williams.
from 8 months ago
Finally someone writing something on here that I enjoyed reading.
I have been waiting to hear something from a Michigan supporter like this. I guess I am not going to though because Michigan has a bunch of unproven talent and arguably, an unproven coach, at least coming into a new situation.
I am just inferring right now, but I would say that Terrelle Pryor wants to go to a team that is going to compete for a national championship. When you look at the schools he is interested in, they all have one thing in common. They can win.
I just think the Buckeyes have a better supporting cast to help him get there. That’s why I think he will be wearing scarlet and grey next year.
8 months ago
wow, you are the stupidest person alive...oh wait probably a scUM grad too. first off, the U of M talent is as good or better than that of OSU? lol wow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEcQZQE6k4I - check that out first off to enlighten yourself. everybody should, great piece. anyways, I guess you've never heard of ted ginn, santonio holmes, aj hawk, donte whitner, will smith, chris gamble, nail diggs, nate clements, terry glenn, david boston, joey galloway, will allen, michael jenkins, lecharles bentley, mike nugent, orlando pace, simon fraser, shawn springs, anthony gonzalez, bobby carpenter, should i go on? oh and buddy, players forever have been saying the 'shoe is much louder than the little big house. i mean, app state?? yeah, you have no room to talk. i guess you've never experienced columbus because it is pretty freaking crazy every saturday. 34-32 and 6 out of 7 thank you very much.
8 months ago
ok, honestly, this comment board here just proves how stupid scUM fans are. i mean dear lord. Henne the next Brady? wow...that's a joke if I've ever heard one. Henne was what 1-7 in OSU and bowl games? man, really great. oh and btw, for all those Mishitigan fans who claim Tom Brady as their beloved son in the NFL, what the hell are you talking about? you guys hated him when he was there and booed him. He hates you guys. Notice how he NEVER says anything positive about the university or wears any michigan hats. You guys treated him like crap.
the basketball comment - how is it any different from OSU? and, Pryor has said he will focus on football, so it's irrelevant.
nice...use a 3 year old ESPN article - that stuff is done with idiot. dickrod on the other hand is in some trouble. what a douchebag, offering $1.5 mill for his $4 mill buyout. just pay it already. and shredding academic documents. also, possibly calling Pryor twice in a week (to let him know he was leaving WVU and then the same week when he got to scUM). he's in a mess right now.
i like that youtube clip above me - very good.
I think pryor is looking to the NFL and winning in college...that won't happen at Meechicken.
8 months ago
Enough already! It's amazing how impatient people are and how rude they are to each other. What happened to a healthy respect for your rival? The truth is that both have great programs. Some years Michigan dominates other years OSU does. Sometimes the games are hard fought battles. Both programs have a solid track record of producing NFL players.
I really don't care to speculate where TP will go. We will find out next week. In the end he will decided based on what he believes is best for him.
John G.
8 months ago
Want more info on Terrelle Pryor and the Jeannette Jayhawk State Championship team?
www.jeannettejayhawksfootball.blogspot.com
Video's, audio, photos and more.
PS: Terrelle and Joe Pa, are eating dinner together as I type this!! True story! So both Ohio and Michigan, might be out! Well see, and I bet that come signing day, everyone will be in shock! Call it a hunch! I've watched Terrelle for 4 years now, this doesn't make me an expert on him by any means, but you get a better understanding of him!
8 months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEcQZQE6k4I
^^ OMG, this is quite possibly the best thing I've EVER seen on YouTube. I am seriously still laughing as I type this. Michigan is on a downward spiral and will be for a verrrry long time to come.
Not to mention your new scUM head coach (what a disaster he'll be). The guy is right, Michigan is eventually going to fall from it's elite status, if it already hasn't. You win 7-8 games next year at best. I mean, Michigan, the most winning program in NCAA history, incredible tradition, and success is allowing itself to fall into the ranks of middle of the road teams.
As an OSU fan, I used to respect Michigan - seriously. When it comes to upholding that truly awesome Michigan/Big Ten reputation, honestly you've fallen off the wagon. I mean you completely embarrassed the validity of the Big Ten as an elite conference by losing to App State.
I know what's next, how about OSU getting embarrassed in two consecutive national championships? That's just it, it was the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Enough said, and we were thoroughly unprepared, I admit, but not over-matched physically or talent-wise.
And the notion that Henne is the next Brady -- I don't even have words for the idiot who wrote that. I know when there are some OSU fans who write idiotic things, I do cringe at their representation of stupidity on our part. That statement, as a scUM fan, I would have had a crazy urge to find where he lives and strip him of any Michigan apparel that he owns (which is probably just a Henne jersey, lol).
It's always the same arguments with scUM fans:
- OSU is corrupt - Where's your proof, beside your blatant bias?
- OSU doesn't graduate it's players - Well honestly, I wouldn't bother graduating either if I were basically guaranteed a draft spot as a top caliber OSU talent. And besides that,
Then you want to go on about how many OSU quarterbacks are in the NFL compared to Michigan. Laughable.
You boast Brady's success. The fact is he was treated horribly at Michigan. Most scUM fans wanted Drew Henson to start over Brady in those two years. Michigan never gave him the respect he deserved, not to mention he went in the sixth round. HE developed HIMSELF as a top NFL talent, NOT Michigan. In fact, the incompetence of the Michigan coaching staff almost kept Brady out the NFL draft altogether.
... And you guys still want to go around touting the role of UM in Brady's current success as an NFL elite Quarterback. Again, laughable.
As for Terelle: Mark my words, he will NOT go to Michigan. Deep down he HAS to know where the direction of Michigan football is going. It's certainly not where he wants to be on draft day. And if he doesn't, he's an idiot anyway, and I'll be glad he's not the leader of my team, The Ohio State Buckeyes.
8 months ago
todd collins is a loser who hadnt started in over a decade and tom brady was sixth round draft pick i believe that troy smith was drafted higher than that and by the way brady wasnt even a full time starter his senior year michigan sucks and if pryor chooses there i hope he ends up like drew henson because michigan produces nothing but losers with the exception of tom brady even braylon knows it how soon we forget that he did the O-H-I-O the end zone this year as bad as michigan sucks it is no near as bad as rich rodriguez as a coach name one nfler he has coach at i do my sister university?fuck michigan and all there faggot fans GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 months ago
MIchigan simply is a better school than Ohio State. You cannot argue that You Suckeyes have ever produced a better quaterback than Tom Brady, who may one day be known as the best ever. Terrelle should and will go to Michigan if he wants to be a star at the Level where he can earn big bucks. Also, with Sam McGuffie, Michigan's offence would tear the league up with Pryor, end of story.
from 8 months ago
You boast Brady's success. The fact is he was treated horribly at Michigan. Most scUM fans wanted Drew Henson to start over Brady in those two years. Michigan never gave him the respect he deserved, not to mention he went in the sixth round. HE developed HIMSELF as a top NFL talent, NOT Michigan. In fact, the incompetence of the Michigan coaching staff almost kept Brady out the NFL draft altogether.
... And you guys still want to go around touting the role of UM in Brady's current success as an NFL elite Quarterback. Again, laughable.
8 months ago
This is what i think
Terrelle pryor might come to michigan because of two reasons.
1-michigan and rich rodriguez are going to run the spread offense next year. pryor would thrive in the big house
2-he would start as a freshman and would get to use sam mcguffie when he didnt feel like running himself
he might also benefit from going to OSU because as of right now, they are the team to beat in the big ten. If he wants to be on a team that usually goes to bcs games, OSU is the way to go
but if he would like to start as a freshman and have a good shot at making the NFL michigan is what he should choose. basically every qb that starts at michigan makes the NFL.
Personally i am a michigan fan and hope he comes to michigan but i do believe he has good reasons to go to both schools
from 8 months ago
I would agree to almost everything you had to say. Those are good reasons why he should go to Michigan. They may indeed be the reasons if he does choose Michigan.
However, I am not sold on Rich Rodriguez yet. I do not think he will ever be able to go undefeated in the Big Ten running that offense, there is a reason that nobody else runs it in the Big Ten. Don't get me wrong, it will be successful but in order to be the best in the Big Ten you have to be able to have a balanced offense so you can beat any given team on any given day running or throwing.
Michigan has been able to send so many quarterbacks to the NFL because of the pro style offense they USED to run. Now Rodriguez is coming in and he is going to be running what is closer to a high-school offense than a pro style offense.
What is your reason for Pryor being more prepared for the NFL if he goes to Michigan? Other than, "basically every qb that starts at michigan makes the NFL."
Can anyone answer that???
8 months ago
Wow "buckeye" has seriously got some anger issues. Get some counseling dude.
8 months ago
I am sick of hearing about how Michigan PRODUCED Tom Brady. What the hell are you guys talking about? If you guys produced him like you are taking credit for then why didn't he do anything in college? Why didn't he win the Heisman? Why wasn't he taken #1 overall in the NFL draft? You guys are all clowns because he is good now because of the coaching he's received in the NFL, not U of M.
and one more thing. Tom Brady is not the best QB of all time.
He's not in the top 5.
Marino
Favre
Montana
Unitas
Elway
i would even go as far to say he's not the best QB in the NFL today. Peyton Manning is.
8 months ago
How about we actually talk about TERRELLE PRYOR you fuck wads! I don't give a shit about why Michigan is better than Ohio State or why Ohio State is better than Michigan! Cut the fan bias shit. I want to know if anybody knows what this guy is thinking and where he is leaning toward.
8 months ago
The bottom line is this: both schools have produced great players and great NFL talent. Both have had there share of dissapointments and both have had their scandals. Both have great traditions, stadiums, and coaches. No matter where Pryor goes, he will be successful. His QB makeup will not be a problem if he works hard and develops his skills. If he does compare to a young Vince Young like the scouts say, than he has the potential to be great. (Last time I checked, Vince is doing pretty well.)
Now then, I am sick of the crap that is being written on the blog, but I will say this:I am neither a Michigan fan nor an Ohio State fan, but I fornunate enough to get tickets to the Michigan Ohio State, number 1 vs. number 2 game of 2006, and my impression of Ohio State fans sucked. For God sakes, those people throw ballons filled wiss piss at people! Freaks.
8 months ago
You da man
8 months ago
According to Sports Illustrated's cover story last fall, The Ohio State University has an estimated One Billion dollar annual sports department budget. There isn't another university athletic department in the United States that comes close to that. It's going to break my Maize & Blue Michigan heart.......... but I fully expect Terrelle Pryor to follow the big money and join Buckeye Nation.
8 months ago
is there a such thing as a college football fan anymore. i dont see too many on this forum. i live in northern indiana where most are notre dame fans however im a michigan fan. i watch the games with my friends that are notre dame fans as well as osu fans and even a die hard alabama fan. we watch the games every weekend and respect the tradition that is collage football. you people bickering about whos better is beyond pointless because every collage is deep in tradition and skill. look down the list of nfl greats and it will prove that mu or osu are not the only schools that turn out heros. in fact the most elite players i can think of came from schools that you hardly ever hear about. i would like to see pryor in the big houe because michigan has lost most of there players due to graduation and the upcomming draft. i also believe he would be a great asset to any team.
8 months ago
Yes you are correct when you say Michigan produced Tom Brady,kind of.The Michigan faithfull i remember during his senior year shit on him every chance they got by chanting for Drew Henson.Do you think that a smooth customer like Brady has really forgotten that?
8 months ago
Yes you are correct when you say Michigan produced Tom Brady,kind of.The Michigan faithfull i remember during his senior year shit on him every chance they got by chanting for Drew Henson.Do you think that a smooth customer like Brady has really forgotten that?
8 months ago
what team this year did not get upset? i think michigans loss to app st. was an honorable loss. it was a close game and app st had not lost a game in two years and went on to win a third national title. i saw a lot of upsets this year that where discraceful but that was not one of them. as a michigan fan i was more upset with losing to oregon.
8 months ago
Buckeyes are idiots about Brady because all they saw/heard were chat boards and radio call-ins by stupid fans - Michigan did not treat Brady badly, though many stupid Michigan FANS may have wanted him to sit in favor of Henson, Lloyd Carr will tell you himself that Brady kept Henson on the bench, not Lloyd - and that's what he said again and again.
So - yes, many fans hated LLOYD for it - but few who knew anything hated Brady. If there was a quarterback fairly or unfairly disliked by many fans at Michigan, it was John Navarre - who also set a zillion records at Michigan and beat OSU handily in the 100th game between the schools. Brady has said many times that his pressure-filled times at Michigan helped make him what he is - and he is still close to the program. He gave advice on how to beat Charlie Weis. Since you never see him wearing a Patriot hat when he's out with his girlfriend, I guess he must not be a Patriot fan either. Idiot. He's a reserved guy in all ways and a true Michigan Man. As is Amani Toomer, who just beat Brady.
Brady rocked for like 370 yards and 4 TDs in his final bowl game to beat Alabama. Of course Michigan wanted to find a way to get Henson some time - he was good and they didn't want him to leave for baseball (which he did anyway, when Suckeye booster Steinbrenner signed him to the Yankees on the stipulation that he NOT play his final season at Michigan - - - as if 2 months of football mattered to him. He could have easily made the contract contingent on Henson not getting injured or on a physical - but he screwed Michigan with his money.)
Anyone who doesn't see Henne's promise as a QB is an amateur. His footwork, decision-making, and release are excellent - and he has one of the strongest arms and best ball-speed in the NCAA. And he is unbelievably tough - read here about how bad his shoulder REALLY was this season - how he won the Illinois game on 200 yards and 2 TDs with a shoulder that dislocated every time he bent over to take the snap - he had to pop it back in before the snap. I don't care if you love, hate, or are indifferent to Michigan - this is just tough football from an awesome Pennsylvania kid: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071230/COL22/712300581/1048
Don't forget he was one of the Heisman favorites until they lost early and he hurt dislocated his shoulder. Yet he still pulled off a miracle game-winning drive against MSU. He just had nothing against OSU - so they forced him to throw long passes to the outside for tough throws and short yards and keyed on Hart. Henne had no chance in that game. The game against Florida showed what a healthy Henne could do.
Read this: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080123/SPORTS06/80122083/1054
More than one scout has him as the second best QB in the draft now - behind Matt Ryan, usually. Check ESPN and others - I see him going 2nd round at the latest - possibly the Bears. Hopefully not th e Lions, for his sake - though his former Michigan QB coach Scot Loefler will probably clue them in on how good he is. Though that is no surprise for real scouts and not stupid fans.
Boobs. Hope at least some of you Buckeye fans got through this whole post without tiring out your lips from reading out load... sound it out... you can do it! Yea!!! Get yourself a cookie!
about 1 month ago
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1920867
This will tell you how bad Tressel is. He isn't the only coach that is crooked but Tressel has been as crooked as a dog's back leg. He can wear the sweatervests all he wants but he can't be fooling anyone except the OSU faitful with the rose colored galsses.
The OSU fans I talk to all say the same thing. Clarett is an idiot and a liar. They say he's as dumb as the day is long. If he's so dumb, how in the hell could he create such a story about what he was given in the way of cash ,cars, and easy classes (some he never went to). Tressel knew everything that was going on and still tries to play dumb.
Like I say. I don't doubt for a minute it goes on at every major college that has a decent football program (so the Minnesota Golden Gophers must be clean) but for the OSU fans to try and say Tressel din't know anything about what was going on with Clarett? Please! Tressel was guilty of pretty much the same thing at Youngstown State.
about 1 month ago
Soo hows Michigan fareing against Utah??? I think Pryor made the right choice =)
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