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The Utah Utes are 6-0 and ranked 14th in the AP poll. Let's get one thing straight: Utah is a good Mountain West team. In fact, they are a great Mountain West team. But that is as far as it goes...

Why Utah Doesn't Deserve Its High Ranking in the Polls

by Cody Dockens (Scribe)

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Editorial

October 10, 2008

College Football, Mountain West Football, Utah Utes Football, College Football Polls, Editorial

The Utah Utes are 6-0 and ranked 14th in the AP poll. Let's get one thing straight: Utah is a good Mountain West team. In fact, they are a great Mountain West team. But that is as far as it goes.

Utah is a strong team in their conference, but they are unproven outside the Mountain West. The Mountain West is a conference comprised of perennial homecoming opponents for teams from the SEC, ACC, Big 12, and Big Ten, the toughest conferences in football.

In case you are wondering if I forgot to include the Pac-10, the answer is no. Besides USC the Pac-10 is fairly equivalent to the Mountain West.

So far this year, the Utes have defeated powerhouse programs like Weber State, UNLV, Air Force, Utah State, and Oregon State. To their credit, Utah did beat Michigan at the Big House, but Michigan's program is going to suffer under Rich Rodriguez. Two years from now, beating Michigan in Ann Arbor will be nothing to write home about.

In fact, if you look at Michigan's horrid performance, then Utah's victory in Ann Arbor is not all that surprising.

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This year's Utes are led by a stellar defense, one that allowed 21 points to Weber State. The argument in favor of Utah is that two of the touchdowns were garbage time stats.

Garbage time stats? It is Weber State, for crying out loud. Garbage time stats are a field goal, or maybe a touchdown, not two. The other TD by Weber State was scored late in the first quarter, tying the game at 7-7.

This very same powerhouse Utah program trailed by seven at the half against a tough Air Force team. In fact, Utah didn't lead the whole second half until Darrell Mack scored a touchdown to put Utah up by seven with less than a minute remaining in the game.

Last weekend Utah bested a tough Oregon State team, in a battle of the titans of college football. Yes, the same Oregon State who lost to Stanford and then beat USC. The win against USC failed to surprise me, and we are all aware that year in and year out USC is grotesquely overrated.

However, Oregon State's embarrassing loss to bottom-feeding Stanford further proves that Utah's last-minute victory over them isn't that amazing. Utah blew a halftime lead and failed to score the entire second half until they caught a lucky break with 1:29 to go in the fourth quarter.

This weekend Utah travels to Laramie, Wyoming to face the feared Wyoming Cowboys.

Honestly, Utah plays nobody. Absolutely no one. The one team with a shred of credibility they play is BYU.

BYU, much like Utah, is overrated. They achieve high rankings playing against cake schools. BYU's 59-0 rout of UCLA was impressive, but UCLA has managed just two wins this season.

To everyone who says that teams like Utah and BYU are for real, all I ask you to do is prove it. Show me where they established themselves—and a 58-10 win over Utah State is not proving yourself.

If Utah wants to be the next Boise State, a small team who has proved themselves, than Utah needs to play a team with the respect of Oklahoma instead of scheduling an opponent like Weber State.

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  1. Wow! Your use of sarcasm in this article makes you sound like a "genius boy" wonder. You are a lame cake eating 17 year old. Grow some chest hair before you start writing about college football.

    1. You don't think I can write legitimate articles because I am still in high school?? I am the south-earstern US, where football reaigns king. This is football country. It isn't in the northeast, the midwest, the west coast, or southwest. It is the south east. Football is Bear Bryant, Johnny Vaught, Lloyd Carr, Gen. Neyland, The Manning boys, Don Shula, and many more. The vast majority of college footballs immortals are from down south, and I'd wager that the average 17 year old from down here knows more about football than you do. We don't just watch football, we here stories of playing for the Bear Vince Dooley, or for Pat Dye. Trust me when I speak about ollege football it is with the utmost confidence, that I can back up what I say

  2. Dear Moron: If BYU and Utah play hard teams and get just 1 loss, they have no shot at the BCS. Rigged system encourages softer schedules (though a Washington and UCLA schedule didn't seem soft in the beginning of the year) so teams can stay undefeated and try for a BCS game. Want to make it fair? Add the Mountain West to a guaranteed BCS game slot. I'll call it the "It's About Time Bowl".

    1. If they do play harder teams in all for non conference games, and they do get just one loss than it shouldn't effect them that muh. The polls are flawed anyway. Utah would get killed by any harder teams they play, they wouldn't just lose it would be murder, it would prove whether or not they belong in a bcs bid.

    2. Good point Cody. The only problem is that non-BCS teams get automatically kicked out of top ranking positions with a single loss -- they only have a shot at a BCS game if they're undefeated, whereas a BCS school can have 2 LOSSES and still play for a national championship. The issue for me is that the Mountain West is now better than at least 2 BCS conferences, but they don't get the preferential treatment received by the BCS conferences. I guarantee this: if BYU or Utah loses, they won't play for a BCS game. Not the case for other "overrated" BCS teams. Keep up the good work, Cody, and keep the conversations going!

  3. Tell me Cody, what credibility do you have to analyze Mountain West teams let alone any NCAA team? If you want to do some sports writing maybe you should focus on women's volleyball. You are not credible!.

    Here's a little lesson for you. To become a credible writer, you need to learn to stay unbiased and focus on the facts. The Utes have beat more BCS teams than any other non-BCS team in the nation at I believe 15-10.

    Did you really say this? "If Utah wants to be the next Boise State, a small team who has proved themselves, than Utah needs to play a team with the respect of Oklahoma instead of scheduling an opponent like Weber State."

    Hey idiot, Utah was the first non BCS team to bust the BCS and play in the Fiesta Bowl so there is no "becoming the next Boise State".

    By the way, I’m baffled, how can a team that already went to the Fiesta Bowl and take the BCS trophy home become like the team that did it the second time? It has already been done! You really are an idiot.

    1. Geoff, this is an editorial, my opinion. Do you really think any article is unbiased, an unbiased sports article is just the stats, boring. People wasnt biased overage of sports, conflicting opinions. That is one of the things this site was for editorials. Who wants to read the stats I want arguements, debates. I want people to give me their opinion, I'll give them mine and when that happens, ofeten people tend to try to figure out why that is their opinion, or why the othe rperson thinks the way they do. As far as Utah being the next Boise St, and Boise following in Utah's footsteps, Utah beat pitt in the fiesta bowl, lets call it a down year. They beat pitt for bcs hardware, I guess Cal Poly was at a math competitoin and couldn't to play in the game. Lets chalk that up to a down year for the BCS, and since Urban Meyer left utah they have went 8-5 and 9-4 that means they lost to Mountain West teams, most of which aren't very good, they aren't consisant so far Boise state has been.

  4. Good writing Cody, even though I totall disagree. :)

    1. Zadawg, I appreciate your comment, I should have wrote a note that while I don't think Utah is that great, by God I'm rooting for them, I would love to see Oklahoma or an equal team lose to Utah. I want them to prove me wron, I love an underdog, but to me they haven't proved anything. I wrote this to spark debates. It has worked.

  5. As a BYU fan I still have to admit that our rival team Utah looks just as unbeatable this year. It has been way fun watching Utah and BYU crush these "cake" teams. I am just waiting for the day that whoever is responsible for configuring the MWC schedules, aligns teams with BYU and Utah that WILL give the MWC more credibility. In a way, it is hard to "prove" yourself when you're not playing anyone else in the top ten. When you look at teams like Florida, Auburn, Georgia, and USC, their schedules consistently give them the opportunity every year to show their stuff.

    So I can see why people think these 2 great teams are over-ranked and over-rated, BUT BYU and Utah have been consistent with winning, thats where the recognition is coming from...let alone their record OVER non-conference teams. I think after this season we'll continue to see these teams ranked and with tougher schedules.

    1. Gazz, they scheduletheir own non-conference games, if they schedule teams like texas a&m south carolina, and then 1 reallt strong team like Florida, they would have a stronger schedule I would say that if Utah or BYU played South Carolina or Ole Miss they would be about even.

  6. wow you are such an idiot...compare the MWC to the WAC any day...yea MWC is 6-1 this year against the pac 10...THE WAC SUCKS who have they beaten this year out of conference...no one...BSU beat a Oregon team that had to use their 4th string QB..nice job...cody is seriously retarded he doesn't know shit...when UTAH went 12-0 we beat the shit out of pitt and we were the FIRST to play in a BCS game get your facts right and dont ever type a word about football again...IM GONNA LOVE WHEN UTAH BEATS BYU AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND GOES TO THE BCS AND WINS ANOTHER BOWL GAME MAKING IT 8 IN A ROW...by the way utah has the best bowl winning percentage than any other school...go to hell cody go to hell

    1. Brandon,
      Utah beat Pitt. Pitt is in the big east, a confernce that shouldn't be a bcs conference. Pitt vs Utah for the feista bowl, what the hell happened there you can't convince me those were the two best available teams. Over the last 20 years, Pitt has a reccord 110-125, the last ten years, 66-58. That is the type of team Utah played. It is well documented that the fiesta bowl organizers did not even want Pitt but they had to take them b/c the won the big east, another "power house" conference. The big east isn't worthy of the bcs conference title, maybe they should replace them with the mtn west, so when Utah and BYU get blown out by real teams, they can just do away with the 6th bcs conference altogether, and maybe they should do away with the pac-10 being a bcs conference. Hell they should do away with the whole BCS system b/c it encourages schools to play cupcake teams, to go undefeated.
      The bottom line is Utah and BYU couldn't survive in the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, or SEC and that is a fact, they may do well every few years, but hey wouldn't domminate, and would be a conference title contender... and you can take that to the bank.

  7. just so you know, the "lucky break" you are talking about against oregon state, was far from lucky. It just goes to show that our quarterback and our team in general can stand up to the pressure of being down by 8 points with 90 seconds left in the fourth quarter and come through and score 11 points to beat the fuck out of the team who just the week before stomped the number one team in the nation. Unfortunately there is no equivalent scenario proving Boise State's resiliancy, in fact there is nothing at all you can say for the garbage program, except that they barely squeaked by Oregon, with the duck's fourth string quarter back playing. Other than that win, lets see, oh yeah and Idaho State University who is equivalent to a highschool team, and is 0-6 in the Big Sky conference... It is absolute garbage that boise is even ranked in the top 25, I can think of 4 MWC teams who would absolutely destroy boise, even if they played on the completely unfair "smurf turf" where they get most of their wins. Boise has the 111th hardest schedule in the NCAA, a.k.a. no test at all for resiliancy, they pretty much play a bunch of highschool teams so they better'd beat the shit out of each team they play, i would consider a margin of victory less than 3 touchdowns a "loss" for BSU. Oh yeah and by the way, since the computers choose the BCS games, they put UTAH against PITT, unfortunately that was the best they could do, and all UTAH could do was stomp them into the ground, 35-7. What else can you ask of them? who knows? if they put Utah up against anyone that year they very well could have had the same result, so yet again the BCS fails, and an undefeated team who was flawless all season doesn't get a chance to play for the championship, and we have two loss teams wining it instead (LSU)

  8. Although Utah's schedule isn't the toughest in the country (72) it is significantly more difficult than Boise State's, so through week seven Utah's 7-0 record with our SOS, is much much more impressive than Boise State's 5-0 record with their SOS, there is no possible way you can argue against this. So the fact that Boise is ranked only a single spot behind utah is ridiculous, they should be back around 24 or 25, definitely behind TCU, yet another MWC team who would spank boise into the smurf turf. So next year when you go to college Cody, that is if you can keep your little highschool grades up and keep mommy and daddy happy, hopefully you will go to a university who is known not only for their athletic program, but their academic program as well, and if you compare the MWC with the WAC it isnt even close. In fact, I read that Boise is in the top ten for worst graduation rate out of the entire country. I go to Utah for the education, the athletics are just an added bonus. See you next year for initiation, come get your spankin' hahaha

    1. I like the fact that you cited schedule toughness,m where did youn find that I'd be interestd in knowing how tough few team schedules are.

  9. it took a while, i think i found it somewhere on cbssports.com

  10. Okay, I agree with you on several key points here. The Utes' strength of schedule...not that great. And yes, they won't be climbing any higher in the polls unless they stomp on TCU and soundly beat BYU. I'm a Utah fan but a realists.

    However, to say that Michigan is going to "suffer under Rich Rodriguez" I think is quite..well, interesting. Let's face it, Lloyd Carr really wasn't the greatest of coaches. He was a lackluster recruiter and sub-par when it came to the Xs and Os. Nevertheless, he was able to consistently make runs for the Big 10 title. The name "Michigan" goes a long way in recruiter and for the pollsters. Although I don't like Rodriguez, he is the best coach at the helm in Ann Arbor since Bo. West Virginia has fallen apart without him and they really didn't have much talent loss from last year.

    Time will tell with Utah. They have the talent to be a "legitimate" top 15 team but I feel that their offensive scheme is one that does not play to their strengths making them wildly inconsistent, particularly in the red zone. Utah does, however, play up to their opponent and play extremely well in big games. Bowl season always seems to sneak up on us...I predict another Las Vegas Bowl win for the Utes.

  11. Zach, I agree with you on Utah, howeevr I will be rooting for them, but I want them to play USC in the Rose Bowl so they can embarass the Trojans.

  12. Go Utes.

  13. weber state is coached by mcbride, the former utah coach who was also being honored by utah that day. It is not much of a stretch to conclude that utah put the second and third string in once the game was materially over in an attempt not to embarrass a former coach on a day he was being honored.

  14. How can you call Boise State proven but call Utah unproven? Utah was the original BCS buster. They went undefeated and crushed Pitt in their BCS bowl. Since 2003 Utah is 11-3 against BCS schools. How is that unproven?

    Granted this year their BCS opponents have not turned out to be very good...however they are enough to indicate Utah is a good team. Would they go undefeated in the SEC or the Big 12? ...certainly not....but who does?

    If you are truly a died in the wool college football guy you should know that there is plenty of parity in college football. USC may be some what over rated but they would still put a hurting on plenty of your SEC schools if they met up.

    Utah is a good team. Are they in contention for a national title? NO. If they win out and beat a tough BYU and TCU team they certainly deserve a top 10 ranking and a BCS bowl game.

    1. Scott, since the BCS system has been started, BYU hasn't been such a feared team, but before the BCS they were. Utah averaged about 6 wins a season in the 90s and 5 wins a season in the late 80s Utah is doing great right now, but it takes more than just five upstart years to prove if a team is for real. In five more years we will know more.

  15. Cody your a horrible writer.

  16. Pretty sure that when the new rankings come out today Utah will be pretty close to a top 10 ranking. Utah has tried very hard since 2004 to get a tougher schedule. Unfortunatly there are several BCS schools that fear a lose to a MWC school and will not play them. Utah is a amazing team. Its about time they get the respect they deserve. I really do wish they could get into a more respected conference.

    1. I think that they should join a better conference, they are better than some schools thaqt are in larger conferences. They would play better opponents, and we could see what Utah is or isn't made up of. Personally, I think if they moved to lets say the PAC 10 they would compete for 1st or second. I have said it before and I will say it again, I don't dislike Utah they just havent played any teams, that would allow them to prove how good they are, I would love to see them play Texas Tech Oklahoma State Alabama, LSU etc. That way we know either they are contenders or pretenders and there is no guess work. Oh well I guess that is what the bowl games are for.

  17. OK...this is a posting I should not bother to make...however I am bored and I love Utah.

    Cody...what does BYU have to do with anything? Second...if you were old enough to know what you were talking about with BYU you would know that the "feared" BYU of old was under a hall of fame coach. Then he left and BYU sucked for 5 years under Gary Crowton and now Mendenhall is making them respectable again. Why does it take 10 years to say your school is respectable? How many coaches does the average program go through in that time? How many starting line ups? How many graduating classes? 1 year Cody...that is all that is taking place at this time.

    Of course a program can establish momentum and establish respect which helps draws recruits. Those factors will hopefully help them to have continued success...but the game that is being played this week and next week have jack squat to do with 10 years. It is about the players on the field this year and Utah has a good squad.

    Even though the Oregon State game was close and Utah was fortunate to win...they did win. And Oregon State did beat USC who is a very good team and Oregon State is currently tied for 1st in the PAC-10.

    I again state that Utah has a perfect season on record just 4 years ago and they are 11-3 against BCS schools since 2003. They have already won a BCS game. The fact that you had to reply with random babble about BYU and 10 years shows that your entire article has no real reply to those facts.

    1. Scott, BYU didn't just have a hall of fame coach, the whole staff was great, Brian Billick, Andy Reid, and many more. I left that out of my reply, but the point I was atttempting to make is BYU was for real, and right now they are on the rise, but Utah has been an upstart program the past 4 or 5 years, and only time will tell how good or bad they are. And at this point I don't feel that they have played enough strong teams these past two or three seasons to warrant such a high ranking. Contrary to popular belief I don't have a vendetta aginst Utah

  18. the ranking isnt based on last year, or the year before or the year before that, it is a ranking of the skill level and ability of THIS YEARS TEAM! not to mention it is a variable ranking, one that is evaluated throughout the WEEK and is up to date, you are an absolute idiot, any given year a team is completely different, has a different out of conference schedule, and has different rankings, possibly different coaches, different players, different starters. THIS YEAR UTAH IS RANKED WELL, period. no argument. apparently the people who matter, and the computers who matter, agree with me and they don't agree with you, too bad. poor cody. you lose, i win, and so does every utah fan out there, see you in a BCS game little buddy, oh wait, you'll be going to your highschool games and probably losing those... hahaha

    1. Brent, to say that last years season doesn't have any effect on the poles is incorrect. The powers that be so to speak don't pull teams names out of a hat. They take into account last years, recruiting, returning starters strength of schedule etc. It is easier for some teams tio move up in the ranking b/c they play many top oponents, others don't play many tough oponents, like Utah. They will play 1 maybe 2 ranked teams this year, and they played 2 last year. They are not being challened to show how good they are.

  19. "They take into account last years, recruiting, returning starters strength of schedule etc. It is easier for some teams tio move up in the ranking b/c they play many top oponents, others don't play many tough oponents, like Utah."

    and utah moves up to #11... hmm... lets think about this... sounds like a contradiction, oh yeah and hate to break it to you, but recruiting doesn't have anything to do with the BCS ranking but nice try, hah

    1. You weren't speaking of the BCS, in your last post

      the ranking isnt based on last year, or the year before or the year before that, it is a ranking of the skill level and ability of THIS YEARS TEAM! not to mention it is a variable ranking, one that is evaluated throughout the WEEK and is up to date, you are an absolute idiot, any given year a team is completely different, has a different out of conference schedule, and has different rankings, possibly different coaches, different players, different starters

      Since you didn't indicate what source you were using, I looked a pre season polls, where utah ranked in the high 20s or low thirties, and then the AP poll in the opening weeks.
      If you wanted to talk about the BCS they dont have a scale for skill and ability you can't know the skill and ability of a teams players unless all teams played the same games. A players skill and ability will look a lot better against wyoming, than Texas.

  20. "It is a shame that BYU didn't play any respectable teams before TCU, and don't play any respectable teams again until they play Utah who still has not earned the respect of the college football world.

    Excluding fans of Utah and MWC fans, the vast majority of fans, coaches and teams still discount Utah. Even if Utah does go undefeated until the BYU game, and BYU beats them, BYU will still been out of contention for a BCS bid."

    This is hilarious

    How does a 17 year old little kid speak for the vast majority of fans, coaches, and teams? Have you been watching Sports Center? Have you been reading the sports section in USA Today? Reading Sports Illustrated? Or um.... checking the polls/rankings especially those on cbssports.com or espn.com FAN RANKINGS? Are you familiar with these? The rankings that are based entirely on FAN'S OPINION? Or have you checked the COACHES poll? Seriously man, I don't know where your hatred for Utah comes from. They continue to move up each week. Since you wrote this article right after Utah beat Oregon State, we have won two conference games (40-7 and 49-16) granted they were CSU and Wyoming... We have moved up to #11 in the BCS. Just admit, the rankings and the stats speak for themselves.

    Everyone else in the country agrees with me buddy, Utah is going undefeated, and when they do, they WILL be in a BCS game. So you can stop speaking for "the vast majority of fans, coaches, and teams" and start sucking it up, and realizing that teams from non "BCS conferences" can actually bang with the big boys.

    1. First off I am not 17 but that is irrelevant. Second off, Utah has been lower in fan polls than anywhere else usually. Second, the coaches poll gave Utah a first place vote only b/c it was an former ad or coach from utah.

  21. I'm sure it's been said, but you can't just schedule any ol' team. They have to agree. And most of those big conference schools/ BCS schools don't want to schedule a team they could lose to, they'd rather use their non-con schedule for AA schools for the practice or a break. Your argument that Boise does play real schools is out there. They don't have any tougher schedule than the Utes. In fact, their conference is much softer. Additionally, saying the Utes trip to the fiesta bowl was a down year is somewhat accurate in that they should have been put up against a better school (although Pitt looked great all year), but again that is the schedulers not giving them respect. If people don't give any of these non-bcs schools respect they can't prove themselves, but you also can't say that it's because they are week. Utah proves itself whenever it plays BCS schools (holding the best record for a non-bcs school against bcs schools). They also have the longest bowl game winning streak (or tied). It is certainly baseless to say the Utes aren't any good or are overrated just because you haven't seen them play a traditional powerhouse. You should probably waste your time with something else (although it is likely more of a waste of time just responding). Enjoy the football!

  22. Shane you are correct, schools have to agree to play each other, but there are some teams who would play BYU or Utah etc. Oklahoma played TCU to give them their only loss. Bama played Tulane and VT played ECU (Who wasn't supposed to be as ood as they were) So some do schedule smaller d1 schools, it is just getting an agreement worked out, and finding a team who will risk the loss of cash for travelling to provo or boise etc. Boise and Utah have about the same difficulty as far as scheduling goes, but the "Big Boys" won't touch Boise b/c their win over Oklahoma. Hawaii getting blown out by Georgia was the worst thing to happen to all mid-major schools, b/c now the bowl organizers will be reluctnt to take a smaller school. I don't think Utah could contend for a title in the Big 12 SEC, or maybe not the ACC or big 10, but they could contend and maybe win the pac-10 and big east. When I say Utah doesn't deserve their high ranking I didn't say they shouldn' tbe ranked in the top 25, I would have no problem with them being 23 at this point in the season, by the final week if they are still undefeated the top 12 or so would be fine, but therew is little justification of Utah being ranked so highly so early, without playing the two strongest MWC teams TCU and BYU.

  23. "First off I am not 17 but that is irrelevant. Second off, Utah has been lower in fan polls than anywhere else usually. Second, the coaches poll gave Utah a first place vote only b/c it was an former ad or coach from utah."

    ok cody, here we go, for the 7th straight shut down comment from me to you bud

    you said "utah has been lower in fan polls than anywhere else usually"

    maybe you should have run that one by your editor, so he could tell you that wasn't a proper sentence?

    give me one poll where they are ranked low? haha all of the major fan polls rank Utah right about the same place as the AP poll rankings, and did you happen to catch the latest College Football Live on ESPN? Because just to let you in, our coach flew down there for our by week, and they asked him if Utah goes undefeated if he was prepared to play not in a random BCS game, but they asked him if our team was prepared for the national championship! hah, so yeah, the ESPN analysts definitely give Utah the credit they deserve.

    they want a playoff system like the rest of the country, so we don't have these arguments, and we don't have teams from such highly favored conferences that they can win the national championship with two losses, this is ridiculous, if a team doesn't lose in a season, they should get a chance to show what they can do, to shut little 17 year olds up, or wait, are you old enough to buy pornos and cigars now? sorry man, my bad, comment on your states highschool scene or something

    One last point, second (after the first) and second, Utah was the first team to make a BCS game from a non-BCS conference, they absolutely crushed their lousy opponent in the fiesta bowl, unfortunately Boise State and Hawaii (WAC ASS TEAMS) are 1-1 with their only win coming after they squeaked by in OT and the other team getting blown out by Georgia. The WAC sucks. Boise State is overrated. I will give you that. But the MWC is a different story. Just look at how they have done this year against other conferences. To go undefeated in the MWC isn't some worthless accomplishment that proves nothing. Our conference is tough, every week, and is comparable to every conference (save the Big 12 and SEC) and better than the PAC-10 without a doubt.

    so secondly, and second of all, and second: you and the rest of the haters underrate the MWC.

    we have 3 ranked teams in the top 25

    not to mention we played (and won) our out of conference games AT the BIG HOUSE, and against Oregon State DIRECTLY AFTER THEY BEAT THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE COUNTRY! WHAT MORE CAN WE DO???? seriously?

    After we beat TCU, and BYU, and when i rush the field to send the Utes off to the BCS again, i will be sure to snap a photo, to send it to you, and i hope we play 'BAMA for the national championship, so we can run straight through them when they expect to destroy us just like michigan and OSU did.

    I'm done destroying you on this 3 week old article, just pan up through the 30 something comments that you recieved. How many people agree with you? I can't find a single one. So alright guys, let's stop rippin this guy a new ass hole, and wait for him to write another article with his editor (yes, this little douche has an editor) so we can rip his asshole to an even larger diameter about that one.

  24. one last thing

    "Boise and Utah have about the same difficulty as far as scheduling goes"

    c'mon man, didnt you find the rankings you asked me about?

    72 vs 112

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