It was only yesterday Yankee fans and the Yankee front office were pinning their season on generation trey. Three young kids whom the organization vehemently refused to part ways with to attain even the greatest and most established of available veteran pitchers.
So far generation trey has amounted to 4 wins, 11 losses, three various injuries and a boat load of disappointment. One would be insulting Chamberlain to include his era in a total aggregate so just suffice to say, Joba thus far, has been the only one who has proved not to be overrated, and even he missed time due to tendinitis.
Unfortunately it sounds like Joba is being bashed here but in the end the real complaint is directed at Hughes and Kennedy.
Johan Santana so far this year, albeit in another league, has 15 wins, 7 losses, and a 2.64 era. Drastic contrast to what the two that were revered so highly did this year. Tell Yankee fans they are untouchable now.
Overall why were these kids so highly touted, so heavily relied upon, so greatly over valued? There really isn't one solid answer to this issue. It leads to the basis of the article.
There was no talk of a tuff 25 year old kid coming out of the Mexican league after his sixth season pitching there. There was no talk of Alfredo Aceves this spring. Funny thing is he has given more than two thirds of generation trey combined in only 26 innings. That is if your considering his ability to maintain composure and keep the Yankees in the game.
Alfredo Aceves, known by his friends as Paton, which means big feat (easy now ladies), started pitching in the Mexican League at 19. He continued pitching there for six years. This tells Yankee fans, even though he may be new to MLB he is no rookie on the mound.
He wears the number 91 as he idolizes Dennis Rodman of all people, for his ability to frustrate opponants on the court and the fact he feared no one. He is a Bulls fan if that is relevant.
So far in one relief outing of 2 scoreless innings, one long relief of Darrell Rasner which saw Rasner complete 1.1 inning and Aceves threw 5, and 3 starts with the Yankees this year, Aceves has produced 1 win, 0 losses, with an era of 1.38.
Overall in the minors he combined for an 8-2 record with a 2.62 era.
Once in the majors, none of his outings, other than the one relief appearance, were less than 5 innings. In none of those outings did he allow more than 2 runs. Three of those outings were against first place teams within their own divisions. The Rays, the Angels, and the White Sox. Not bad considering what those teams are capable of doing to a pitcher.
Alfredo just sort of showed up. The bullpen needed some depth. Aceves was called up. Darrell Rasner was struggling. Struggling so much that Girardi decided after only one relief appearance that Aceves was the man to fill his spot. Forgoing possibly returning Kennedy or Hughes to the starting rotation. What a statement that makes.
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Ben Currie 9 months ago
Joba Chamberlain not overrated... hmmm
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Todd Jackson 9 months ago
For my money, he has shown more than enough promise and capability to live up to expectations. Denying Jobas potential is just silly. The only thing that will hold him back is injury. Do you think he is over rated? Seriously?
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Ben Currie 9 months ago
Yes incredibly so. For the sake of this article I don't think he is at all. And I see your point. Next to Hughes and Kennedy he has performed well as and has delivered as a prospect. Still he's pitched a little over 100 innings in his career and is treated like a deity in New York City. I certainly understand the potential and a nice ray of hope out of what was previously an abysmal Yankee farm-system and future. But there's very little track record here and at 23 already having rotator cuff tendinitis is a bad sign.
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Todd Jackson 9 months ago
That is hard to argue with as far as far as dues paid. My opinion of Joba lays solely with his potential not his lack of proven track record. Thanks for clarifying your opinion, I expected the typical crap, I appreciate you clarifying, and you have a great point. I as a Yankee fan can only hope he lives up to A his potential and B the expectations. Thanks Ben, take care. Good luck with the Mets for the rest of the season.
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Tom Harrison 9 months ago
Joba Chamerblain is not overrated. I dont think he has fully adjusted to being a starter in the big leagues becuase he needs to learn how to pace himself but he will someday be the ace of the Yankees.
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Todd Jackson 9 months ago
George I agree. Ben was just saying there is a lot of hype for a very shallow sampling of what he is capable of. I like you believe he will be great, he just hasnt proven himself as of yet. Staying on topic, what do you think of Aceves? Trade bait, a viable starter, nothing of the sort?
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Tom Harrison 9 months ago
I could see Aceves as the number 5 guy in the rotation. He has not been playing very long in the majors so his trade value probably isnt very high. I dont think the Yankees will or should use him as trade bait. If they have a spot in the rotation i think they should try him in there instead of hughes because we need to find a young pitcher that could win. Hughes and Kennedy had thier chances last year i think we the Yankees should let Aceves have his
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Todd Jackson 9 months ago
George Im totally on board with that idea. The kids have proven what they can do and unfortunately it doesnt amount to much. I think Hughes will come back and show some of that promise, but Ive seen about all I can stand of Kennedy. The kid is a tool and is spending more time trying to be like Mike Mussina than he is trying to improve his own weaponry. I hope they unload him this offseason. Im half way convninced hes an idiot. Did you catch the interview after his return to the majors, he got shelled and came out and said I did great, Im not upset about it. Thats not a Yankee talking. I bet Andy wanted to strangle him. Anyway, Im glad you agree, and thanks so much for commenting sir. Have a nice weekend, Im bummed the Sox game is in a rain delay right now. Crap.
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Tom Harrison 9 months ago
I think that kennedy will be very hard to dump this offseason yet if they do trade him somewhere they wont get anywhere close to getting what they could have got last year. Don't forget the Yankees could give kennedy to the mariners for Jarod Washburn, i dont know if you remember the Mariners wanted to get rid of Jarod Washburn before the trade deadline. I think if the Yankees traded for Jarod Washburn he would be great in the Number 4 or 5 spot in the rotation.
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Todd Jackson 9 months ago
Your correct his value is pretty much nil at this point. Couple him with another worthless pitcher in Igawa and possibly Cano maybe we can talk them out of Ichiro who seems to be having some chemistry problems up in Seattle. Of course this is wishful thinking but it would be cool to have Ichiro in center. As for Washburn, we passed on him for a reason and I believe it was made apparent why once he reached Seattle. He has been their own little version of Pavano for one year up there, and I dont see us chasing him down now, when we could have had him this year. Then again maybe the Os wouldnt have traded him within the division. I like Cano for the record but he doesnt seem to carry himself as he should. I hope they can turn him around, if that doesnt come to fruition get some pitching for him. Anyway, my day is almost over here and will be leaving the office soon. Take care George and have a great weekend. Ill be checking back tomorrow from home. Looks like they just started the game, go Yanks.
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Tom Harrison 9 months ago
I honestly dont think the Yankees will end up getting ichiro in pinstripes. Yet somehow if they could bring him over from seattle that would be great. I agree with you about cano also i feel that he is a really great player and has a lot of potential but isnt made for playing in new york some team in the National League will be a lot better for him
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