First, congratulations to the Appalachian State Mountaineers for winning their third consecutive I-AA/FCS National Championship, which has never been done before.
And second, why aren't the boys from Boone, NC, in the Atlantic Coast Conference?
What has Duke accomplished in the ACC, other than a myriad of losses every season? Appalachian State would be a major upgrade for a conference struggling for respect.
The Mountaineers have been led by some of the best quarterbacks in FCS history. Their current QB, Armanti Edwards, is one of the best mobile quarterbacks in college football today. Before him, QB Richie Williams proved to be a heck of a pocket passer.
Don't forget that this Appalachian State team defeated the Michigan Wolverines, in the Big House, on the first weekend of the season. At that point, Michigan was ranked No. 5 in the country.
No FCS team had ever beaten a Top-25 program, much less the fifth-best team in the country.
Compare that win to Stanford's win over USC. Stanford is never a major contender in the Pac-10, but the Cardinal have enough talent to remain somewhat respected. I see Appalachian State projecting much the same way to the ACC—which is more than I can say for Duke.
The Mountaineers are an unstoppable FCS force. They're in need of a new challenge. When you have a team that wins three consecutive National Championships—under a playoff system no less—you know you're capable of performing at a much higher level.
As I see it, Appalachian State could end up being the best football team in the state of North Carolina—Wake Forest included. With a little more national exposure and an expanded recruiting base, Appalachian State could become a perennial ACC powerhouse.
Sure, Duke has that basketball team, and I'm not saying that Appalachian State should be recognized as an ACC team in all sports.
But for football, the Mountaineers deserve to be seriously considered.
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7 months ago
If it was a National Title Appalachian State won last night then why do all the players cover up the decal of the American flag on their helmets with black tape? Are they ashamed to be seen wearing the Stars and Stripes in public? They are not the only player to do this. The University of Hawaii players also cover the American flag on their helmets with green tape. Do the coaches of these teams condone this behavior? What an insult to the American people not to mention our armed forces who are putting their life on the line. Shame on Appalachian State and shame on the University of Hawaii.
7 months ago
Amen, brother. The Mountaineers are already the best team in North Carolina, at any level. They also compare favorably with the ACC schools in size and academic standards. Their phenom quarterback is only a sophomore. The Boys from Boone are gonna be tough to beat for quite some time.
from 7 months ago
Okay, stop.
Bes team in North Carolina at any level?
I'll excuse the fact that the Carolina Panthers play in the state of NC and I don't see App State matching up too well with them.
As for other collegiate teams, App would not beat Wake, probably wouldn't beat ECU, UNC, or NCSU.
It's one thing to beat Michigan in one game, don't get ahead of yourself.
Just remember, one of App State's losses was to Wofford, who got absolutely demolished by NC State.
from 4 months ago
First off, App should have beat State 2 years ago when Armanti was on the bench and Trey was quaterback. That same year UNC lost to Furman and I believe App killed Furman. And then we come to 2008, when UNC backed out of negotiations to play App, would have started a great rivalry and fill the stands for a football game at Chapel Hill for the first time in a long time. App would compete, and win some games, personally I think the SoCon is a great football conference and we would be making a mistake by switching from a strong conference to a mediocre one.
Apps BEST team in NC!
Go Apps!
4 for Moore
7 months ago
Excusing the fact that we are talking collegiate level football which the Carolina Panthers are not a part of (and with their current win loss stats which isn't very impressive at all), it's like comparing apples to oranges. Let me be the first to inform you that App State has two open spots on it's schedule for next year so any ACC, Independent or other confernce BCS team is welcomed to call them up and schedule a game. The fact is, Wake Forest has been beaten by Appalachian State and more than once over the years and even during non-championship years let alone non playoff appearance years. Just ask LSU about when they played App State. When you compare the recruitment base, scholarships offered, etc. If App State were on the same level with everything equal, they would be as feared at VT or Boston College in the ACC. You are right though when you say that "It's one thing to beat Michigan in one game", but wasn't Woffords thrashing by NCSU just one game as well? The truth of the matter is, no other North Carolina Collegiate school wants to play App State, as far as that goes, there are very few takers in the BCS division. I am not saying that App State would beat every BCS team they play but on any given Satuday, you just never know!
from 7 months ago
First off, the first poster said AT ANY LEVEL, not at any collegiate level.
Second, Wake was beaten by App when they weren't any good. It's one thing to talk about beating a down team, but right now App would not be Wake.
And no NC State thrashing Wofford isn't just one game because that is what happens MOST of the time. When a 1-AA beats a 1-A, that is the exception.
And I am sorry if Wake doesn't want to play App State, our OOC next year is 2 SEC teams, 1 Big 12 team, and 1 Service Academy.....maybe Duke can play you.
If App thinks they are 1-A quality, then move up, until then don't pretend they are the best college team in NC, it's silly.
7 months ago
Remember when all those pretentious poll voters made such a big deal about being allowed to vote for App State in the polls. Now that App State is the 1AA Champion, you don't see App State anywhere near the Top 25. What, App State is a worse team now than they were in week 1? And why make such a rule, if you intended to enforce it once. God, I hate the voters.
7 months ago
In fairness, Wake Forest is a hell of a lot better now than they were before last season.
from 7 months ago
As I recall Wake dropped App after App started winning. Enough said.
7 months ago
Hey Jared,
Sounds like you're choking on those sour grapes!
They say a chill pill works wonders such a malady.
from 7 months ago
What sour grapes?
I just happen to think that calling a 1-AA team better than 5 1-A teams when they needed a gift fumble to even get out of the QF of their own playoff is a little extreme, that's all.
7 months ago
how much time do you haave on your hands, obviously too much. Once you come up with a valid complaint then maybe you can post it on here. Worry about your own recruiting scandals at USC..um reggie bush comes to mind. App also had an Iraq war veteran on the '05 championship team (Brian Stokley) who came to play at app after serving 3 yrs. So you may want to do some research before you make accusations about my football team.
App State '05 grad, Rob
7 months ago
That would be something if App St. was in the ACC for football. Maybe drop out Duke and put App in its place for the game of football. BUT, the powers that be would not allow that to happen. I think until App moves up to 1-a, they will have trouble getting games from big time schools. UNC and Wake both decided not to play App for now because there is too much to lose.
7 months ago
There are other things to consider when talking about confrence affiliations besides football. They do play other sports you know, and Duke is pretty good at some of those. Additionaly, academics also matter.
from 7 months ago
Not only that but a lot of things have to happen for App State to move up. There are stadium capacity rules, funding. All sorts of things that App State doesn't have I don't think. Western Kentucky made the jump this year, they didn't win a damn thing, but because they added on to their stadium they got moved.
7 months ago
I do realize this and I think that is the main reason the ACC overlooks Duke's failure in football because it is so good in basketball and other sports. Academics are important and App has been raising its standards for sometime
7 months ago
Lets not forget how many times Furman has won at NC State and killed UNC a few years back. Face it the ACC sucks.
7 months ago
haha man this jared guy is hilarious. I am a proud mountaineer and have no doubt in my mind that we would do amazing in the ACC. Oh and the only two losses (including the Wofford that was announced earlier) happen to come when our star quarterback was hurt????? If Edwards had not been injured then we would be looking at an undefeated season. Of course we would not dominate like we do in the FCS but new teams take time and with that time I promise we would be a very well respected team in the ACC. Also App State has beaten Wake three out of the last 4 meetings so I guess Wake usually has a bad team according to some people. If we played Wake Forest in the bowl game they have we would win and just make it four wins and one loss to Wake.
7 months ago
As a true Carolinian, I say bring them on the ACC because teams like NC and Duke are embarrassments to the state.
7 months ago
Give Davis some time in Chapel Hill.
7 months ago
I attend App. State, and I'm telling you our team is ridiculous. However, I can't see us moving up anytime soon. There is plenty of talk around campus, but we just don't have the money. We receive the lowest state funding per student of all NC state universities. Also Boone is bursting at the seams. The town is swamped by the University and all the tourists from the flatlands. As a resort town the real estate is very expensive and the limits of expansion are already surpassed. We are upgrading the stadium, but that is about all we can do. Also if we did move up I doubt it would be to the ACC.
And there is no question the best quarterback in NC is Armanti Edwards- panthers included. We’ll put our 11 against your 11 any day.
GO!
FIGHT!
KICK ASS!
7 months ago
Yeah you might be able to compete in football -- maybe. Consider this. You are a D-Ia caliber athlete from NC/SC/VA/TN. You want an opportunity to gain the most exposure and get a decent amount of playing time. Ultimately, you want to play in the NFL on Sundays. Would you rather have the opportunity to play on national TV (ESPN2) maybe once or twice in your entire career or play for an ACC school where you have the potential of playing an ABC/ESPN/2/U game every other week, the potential of playing in the ACC Championship Game, and the multi-million dollar Orange Bowl?
Quick, name me 10 NFL pro bowlers from I-AA schools. Off the top of my head just from the ACC I can think of: Julius Peppers, Mario Williams (future), Torry Holt, Adrian Wilson, Willie Parker, Philip Rivers, Clinton Portis, Warren Sapp, Jeremy Shockey, and Sean Taylor. I'm sure there are more. I didn't even think of guys from UVa, BC, Clemson, FSU, or Georgia Tech. I can't think of too many besides guys like T.O. who fit in the other category.
Basically my point is, App State has been good for the past few years, sure. But in the long run there's no incentive to go there unless they move up to D-Ia. The superior athletes are still in the ACC.
But they would have trouble moving up to the ACC because the ACC would destroy App St. in every other sport - especially basketball. It takes more than jut a good football team to belong to a conference. Look at the Pac-10 with Stanford, the best athletic program in the country, to see what I mean
7 months ago
Here are some non Division I-A (or FBS) pro bowlers or hall of famers.
Jerry Rice
Terrell Owens
Marcus Colston
Brian Westbrook
Howie Long
Walter Payton
Tony Romo
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair
That's just off the top of my head. So it's not quite ten, but that list was conjured up in about a minute. I'm sure I could easily think of more.
7 months ago
Notice that I just thought of some guys from a single conference. And notice that you brought up long retired guys like Walter Payton, Howie Long, and Jerry Rice to put together your list. You had to reach back to the 80s to get those guys. It's just a reality that there are so many more avenues even in an "inferior" conference like the ACC than in I-AA.
App. State is good, but that talent has not translated to the NFL. That is one indicator that maybe the Mountaineers couldn't measure up even in football (the key word is maybe), let alone all of the other sports.
The Mountaineers could be like Georgetown/Villanova/Providence for the Big East where they play just one sport in the conference, but even that's a stretch
7 months ago
We cant move up to 1-A even if we wanted to until 2011 bc of a moratorium put on it by the NCAA...but I doubt we'd want to. Its not about the size of the school (were larger than Wake Forest), its mainly about stadium capacity and funding. We'd need a lot upgrades to fit into the D-1 mold of a football team, but I dont doubt we'd contend and do well after some time. Just dont pull a Marshall. And we'd more likely be in Conf. USA with ECU than the ACC...which is basically the same thing in football minus Va. Tech
7 months ago
App has bigger problems now....who will play them next year? Florida State, Wake and NC all spoke with Jay Sutton but decided not to. Wonder why?
Do you really think any Big 10 team would take up the challenge after what happened in Ann Arbor? Ohio State fans have been giving Big Blue hell all year...well come on Buckeyes, step up and take a challenge, play the bad boys from Boone. If you win and you should (right Michigan fans, ESPN, all the bookies in vegas) it just gives you more bragging rights: we beat the team that Michigan couldn't.
Lets just do it this way; whatever team that wins the national championship this year agrees to play App. It would be nice to see BCS champs against FCS champs to start the year.
I give props to Florida, LSU, VT for scheduling future games with ASU without backing out, just wish we could see Tebow and Edwards play against each other
from 7 months ago
Wake has 4 OOC games next season. We are playing two SEC teams, a Big 12 team, and Navy.
Sorry if we are scheduling too light
from 7 months ago
OSU is playing USC next year. I think we'll have our hands full. You think we're scared of Appalachian State if we're still playing USC?? Come on man. Schools like OSU aren't scared of Appalachian State. They just book their schedules far in advance. Besides, Michigan blew this year. They were a couple of bounces away from being 6-6.
7 months ago
I attended ASU and graduated in 1998. I just wanted to say "WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!"
ceg
7 months ago
What are you talking about? I've never seen them do this. They don't cover up the American flag, they've never had one on their helmets.
7 months ago
Wake is ducking ASU, not the other way around.
from 7 months ago
We aren't ducking ASU, we are just playing 1-A opponents.
7 months ago
No, If I recall correctly when Grobe came to Wake, one of the first things he did was discontinue the series with ASU. It had been a long-standing series, one that brought one of the largest crowds to Winston each year. I understand playing I-A opponents, and that is fine. But Wake is still ducking App.
7 months ago
Must be tough having to do spin control for Weak Forest. Truth of the matter is that Grobe wanted no part of App and fled from that series as quickly as he could. He calculated, correctly, that Wake would have an easier go it against "major" 1-A opponents like Navy. Don't worry, though, Jared. If things don't pick up in Winston I'm sure Chancellor Peacock would be happy to discuss the possibility of annexing you guys as a satellite campus. How does ASU-East sound?
7 months ago
This is a sillypost. App State isn't covering up the flag. Boone's patriotic.
7 months ago
Appalachian State compares favorably with the NC ACC schools in academics? Come on.
No offense to App (I have several friends that graduated from there/are going there now) but App isn't even remotely close to UNC, Duke, or Wake Forest in academic standards (all 3 of those schools are among the top 30 or so in the United States).....and they're pretty far off from NC State too. Several of the people I know went to App because they didn't get in to UNC or NC State.
I'm not saying App is a bad school or anything, but the NC ACC schools are some of the best in the entire nation. So no, ASU does not compare favorably in academic standards.
7 months ago
1st off if I had an article of clothing that had an American flag on it and I had to wear it, I would cover it up too. This country should be ashamed of itself for many reasons besides the obvious.
Secondly... not including the NFL (but who really cares about them) App IS the best team in the state of NC... easily... Wake a close 2nd. NC had the opportunity to put App on there schedule next year but opted for McNeese State instead... Which game would ANY football fan rather watch? UNC v App or UNC v McNeese St. The game would have not only been fun to watch, but meant a lot to both universities as well as the state. Nothing against McNeese St., but how many of their fans are going to make the trek to Chapel Hill. You would have had to turn away App fans at the gate...
7 months ago
Oh gimme a break about them not wearing a damn American flag decal on their helmets. Even if they had, where do you think those flag stickers were printed? China perhaps? Or in America by "illegals" for minimum wage and no benefits?
If you really want to show pride in your country, stop purchasing products from corporations that don't support "American values". They're addicted to cheap labor and inadvertently so are you when you're conditioned to thinking T-shirts should cost $5 and a burger $1.
And write your congressman and encourage him/her to urge impeach this bonehead of a President.
Sorry about the rant! Anyway... GREAT article!
App football is a force to be reckoned with. You can't blame NCAA teams for blocking App from their upcoming schedules. Eventually, App will be promoted to the NCAAs just like Marshall when they dominated in the '90s.
7 months ago
Just so you get your facts straight. Edwards didn't get hurt until the end of the 3rd quarter maybe the beginning of the 4th against Wofford. Wofford dominated that game from start to finish. Not to mention one of your touchdowns was on a fluke kickoff return. Don't get ahead of yourself.
7 months ago
Bottom line: App State is a football school, and the ACC is a basketball conference.
A lot of the sports App State isn't so great in are sports the ACC has contenders for every year (basketball, soccer, etc). I agree that they would be a force to behold as a football team in the ACC, but the ACC simply is not the conferece for the Mountaineers.
If and when they move up (and I think the admin's push for the expansion of both the school and the stadium are clear signs that the move will be coming shortly after the moratorium ends), I expect they will be looking to some other conference. The one I've heard the most about for FCS schools planning to move up is the Sun Belt. Depending on how Georgia Southern's feasibility study plays out, I think it's very possible we will see GSU and ASU move to an FBS conference together.
Will Liles Neal
Sports Writer for The Appalachian, 2007-Present
p.s. to the guy above me,
Just so YOU get YOUR facts straight, Armanti Edwards was injured in the Michigan game and never fully recovered until well after the GSU game. He was reinjured very early in the Wofford game, but continued to play through it until early in the fourth quarter when he took two big hits and his shoulder was injured to the point the coaches felt it best to put Trey Elder in. Not to mention two of your touchdowns game off of fluke dropped punts. Don't get ahead of yourself, because your long-snapper and punter made sure you didn't make the semi's, hoping that would make sure you kept your mouth shut.
7 months ago
They may not have all been on ABC or ESPN, but App St. had at least 8 televised football games this year. How many did NCSU and UNC have combined?
7 months ago
Oh God, more sensationalism from Bleacher Report.
First the BC article, and now boot Duke from ACC football.
CNNSI on Campus can find them.
7 months ago
Appalachian State joining the ranks of varsity football would be a joke. Look what has happened to Marshall since joining the big boys. At least you might be smart enough to see that they aren't ACC caliber. The ACC had two teams in the soccer College Cup last weekend. ASU can't get a result in its last nine games of the season. And if you are indeed an aspiring sports writer, work on things like "Not to mention two of your touchdowns GAME off of fluke dropped punts." Just sloppy.
7 months ago
Another comment for the ignorant "Sports Writer". Congrats on writing for The Appalachian for the past few months, you must be some sort of sports writing guru. Your comments didn't make me want to keep my mouth shut you actually confirmed that fact that you can't accept legitimately losing to two Socon teams (even if one of them was due to 2 touchdowns that "Game off of fluke dropped punts". If Armanti was so severely injured he should have been on the bench. Don't try to use the "injured" card when it works in your favor. I guarantee that if you would have won both of those games the fact that Armanti was "injured" would have never even come to light. On a side note I agree that Armanti Edwards is a great player but I guarantee you that 4 years from now you will never hear his name mentioned again. With regards to our punter and long snapper keeping us out of the semis I agree that we made a few costly mistakes in tha game that we couldn't overcome. App on the other hand received an absolute once in a lifetime gift with your fumble in round 1. You shouldn't have advanced past round...period. By the way your "loyal" App fans, who have been coming out of the woodwork since your win over Michigan, were filing out of the stadium by the hundreds when that ball was fumbled and your season was kept alive. Your comments also wanted to make me touch base on how classless a football game I saw on Friday night. As if the black tape over the American flag wasn't enough, I thoroughy enjoyed the dances in the endzone, late hits and other personal fouls. Another one of my favorites was the App. player talking about how big of a pimp he was on the sideline(absolutely painful to watch by the way). Maybe you would fit in well in the ACC alongside Miami and Va. Tech. Congrats on your 3-peat, you guys did it with such class.
7 months ago
Will Liles:
Hoping that would make sure you kept your mouth shut.
7 months ago
Ahh, there we go - that familiar ACC snobbery. UNC is a good flagship university by regional standards, but only in Chapel Hill do folks consider it in the same tier of national academic powers like Michigan, UVa, or Cal. As for the rest of the ACC, you have a lot of talking to do if you want me to accept that App does not compare academically to NCSU, Miami, Maryland, or Klem's Son.
7 months ago
The quality of App. State's football team would unfortunatley be way down the list with regards to becoming an ACC member. Just ask the folks at ECU, media market is ultimately the deciding factor. It would be great to see App. State play other UNC school system teams however. ECU used the NC legislature. I believe App. State should certainly have enough support for the same type action.
7 months ago
There are actual academic standards that apply, and if a school does not meet those academic standards, then the ACC won't let you in. If your school drops below said academic standards, the ACC kicks your ass out.
Ask South Carolina.
Not to say that App State is not a great school, but where do they rank nationally among academic institutions?
The ACC is well-known for having quality academic schools, and if you don't know this, then you might want to take a look at your own school's academic ratings. Check out US News and World report. They put out a yearly comparison rating.
2008's ratings:
#8 Duke
#23 Virginia
#28 UNC
#30 Wake Forest
T-#35 Georgia Tech
T-#35 Boston College
#52 Miami
#54 Maryland
#67 Clemson
#71 Virginia Tech
#85 NC State
#112 Florida State
where is App State? Unlisted.
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php
7 months ago
In summary, if you think your school belongs in the ACC, then you better get yourself a school that is willing and ready to compete in all sports, but more importantly, you better make damn sure your school has the academic standards to support your position in the ACC.
By the way, Michigan is #25 on the list. Cal is #21. UNC being #28 most certainly does compare academically to Michigan.
Good thing you could hide behind your "anonymous" tag so that we can't place a name and a face with the fool that you are.
7 months ago
Compete in all sports? You mean like Duke "competes" in football? And as for the rankings you posted, I feel sooo intimidated by those academic giants Clemson (#67) and Florida State (#112). As for UNC people like yourself, good luck on your quest to move up in the national rankings. Who knows? Next year you might be in the top 25!
7 months ago
Now that's funny! Andrew doth indeed protest too much.
7 months ago
What's with everyone saying App state can't contend in more than just football? As I recall their basketball team went 25 and 8 last year and were a bubble team with a shot at the tournament. This year is somewhat of a down year but that should prove they're capable of playing at the 1-A level, they'd just need a few years as all schools do to prove themselves. Whoever just turns down app state because they don't think they can compete in all of their sports should take a look and get your facts straight first.
7 months ago
From the horse's (Grobe) mouth:
"It’s too big a game for us, you know, to be honest with you, David. I’m being as honest as I possibly can. I know one time Coach Moore asked me, you know, he had kinda heard that maybe we thought the game had some bad blood to it, you know, that is was maybe some sinister reason for not wanting to play and I said ‘Coach, honesty, I don’t want to get my butt beat by you, you know. And that’s the honest truth.’
There are a lot of programs out there at the championship level that can beat bowl level teams and Wake Forest, you know, we’re playing in the Atlantic Coast Conference (and) there’s no way in the world that I want to play a tough non-league schedule. …
From our stand point here at Wake Forest we’re looking for teams that are really, truly at the bowl subdivision level and teams that are going to be pretty much even with us. Teams that if we play we got a chance to beat.
I think any time you play a team like Appalachian State you’re gonna have an opportunity to be the Michigan that year. … There’s not a team in North Carolina in the bowl subdivision (like ECU, UNC, etc. that wants) to play Appalachian State because you know that there’s a real good chance that they’re going to kick your rear end."
7 months ago
Edwards was hurt before halftime and never returned to the lineup. The score was 35 -31 and ASU had the ball with 2:00 to go. Yes, Wofford won, but hardly dominated from start to finish.
7 months ago
Maybe you should recheck your source. ASU is not considered a "National University" by US News, but rather a "Regional University". So regardless of our academic credentials, we will not be ranked in the list you're quoting. We do quite well in the regional rankings; if you'll look you'll see that we are currently at #10 in the South. As a matter of face we were Time Magazine's College of the Year in 2000.
7 months ago
ASU is ranked in a different category. All the schools in the ACC are considered national universities because of their emphasis on research. ASU is a regional comprehensive university becuase its emphasis is on teaching rather than research. One category is no better than another, they are simply different. In its category, ASU is ranked among the top 10 schools in the south which would put them among the top 40 nationally.
7 months ago
Jared, you must be delusional if you think that App would not wipe the floor with Duke, and at the absolute minimum be very competitive with UNC and State. Everyone cites the Wofford game in an attempt to play that team A beat team B that beat team C so blah blah blah BS. The truth is that Wofford beat themselves in that game, and had it not been for their turnovers it would have been much closer if not a victory. Wake is a tough team but lets just say that UNC and State fans shouldn't be throwing stones...
7 months ago
While Wake Forest has had one great year in it's history - 2006 - it should be noted that 2006 was the weakest year for the ACC in a long, long, time. Florida State and Miami for starters, fielded maybe their worst teams of the last 25 years.
You have to give Wake its due...but you have to keep it in context.
7 months ago
Actually edwards was pretty much out of the game from the get-go versus wofford. I was there. His shoulder hurt so bad he couldn't throw all game, and his mobility was awful. Jerry Moore and Edwards both said they made a big mistake playing him, anyway, we were looking forward to the rematch in the playoffs but Richmond went down to Spartanburg and beat Wofford...
A week later, Edwards put 495 yards of offense and 7 TD's on the Spiders. Somehow I doubt that the outcome would have been different had Woffie made it to the Semis.
As for the 1-A thing... it's bound to happen, so get ready... ASU is not spending $50 million dollars on athletic facilities to play Elon.
7 months ago
Actually, we are listed. We have been ranked in US News for over a decade as a TOP 10 Masters University. You see, we are a teaching institution, not a research-oriented university, so we are in a different ranking category.
And, about 5 years ago, Appalachian State Univeristy was named College of the Year in US News and World Report. Any of the ACC schools on your list named College of the Year? Any of them win 3 straight Division 1 National Championships in football IN A ROW?
6 months ago
Actually app ended the season ranked #33 in the AP poll.
6 months ago
First off I want to say I'm an ASU student who supports the football team fully.
Is App the best FCS team in the country? as of right now yes we are and we have 3 rings to prove it
Is App the best football team in NC? Maybe, there is no way to prove that unless we play the big teams in NC.
App will survive in the ACC for football and will compete at the middle of the table. Though I believe what makes App great in football is our lack of scholarship athletes. More players are working harder for a scholarship and that makes for a better team.
Regarding the Wofford loss, yea we shouldn't have played Armanti, had Trey have started we could have won it. Wofford won that game and the score proves it and we can't change that.
Someday I'd like to see App go to I-A but not anytime soon really. If App were to bump up, the best conference would be the ACC.
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