A decision has been made today against the News of the World about the so-called Nazi orgy that Max Mosley was involved in back in February. The High Court in London ordered the News of the World to pay Mosley to the tune of about $120,000.
While I'm not a fan of Mosley, I have to applaud him on his bravery in order to go forth and pursue this issue.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau, the former Prime Minister of Canada, said in 1970 that "the state has no business in the bedrooms of our nation." I would like to extend that to the media as well.
I don't care how dirty a mind Max Mosley may have, he is 68 years old and is capable enough to make his own decisions. I don't care if they bound and gagged him, I don't care if he caught an STD, it is all rubbish for me. If it doesn't affect his decision-making processes when it comes to Formula 1, I don't care!
If he wants to hire five prostitutes and have his own fun, then fine, but please don't tell me about it. He didn't use any FIA money for his own "entertainment," so what he did is moot, according to me as a pseudo-citizen of the FIA, since I am a fan of motorsport.
Of course, tabloid journalism may have a grain of truth, but as we saw about the Nazi dungeon romp, it was an exaggerated story. Because the atmosphere was meant to be a German prison, it was believed to be in a Nazi theme. Couple that with his father, Sir Oswald Mosley, who was a prominent fascist way back in the 1930s, and you have a story.
Tabloid journalists really need to get their facts straight and not make associations because of one's past. Of course, they claim to be free in exposing these kinds of stories, and I don't doubt that, but there is clearly a lot of bias or misinformation that is seeping through the cracks here.
I don't know what the tabloids achieve, other than money, when they have an exclusive about a certain person who has power to do something simple and natural like sexual intercourse, even though the intercourse is quite kinky.
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2 months ago
Go on mate ... Excellent writing ... If I was to write this article then I would have put exactly what you did ... Spot on mate, you nailed this one ... 5 gold ones and a POTD for sure ... Excellent stuff, now lets put this Moseley case to bed ... Or not as the case may be, ha ha ha ... Great stuff Shak !
from 2 months ago
Mosley and bed? Hmm....
Thanks for PotD and the stars, very honoured :)
from 2 months ago
Anytime mate !
from 2 months ago
Sheiby, 183 cms??? Just like me. And i have never played basketball...ja cricket......ja poker...just raillian and skiing.
2 months ago
isnt it fun - that way
the more the kink - the more the fun
shaq - a pointer, tag it in the media section as well .... this fits in beautifully there
2 months ago
i have a ques
is it shark
is it shak
or as i call it - shaq ?
from 2 months ago
Shak, Shaq, Shaqs or Shaks.
It seems like everyone's taking a different approach to naming me :)
Also, thanks for the pointer. I totally forgot about the media portion :blush:
from 2 months ago
are you a fan of O-Neal ...?
from 2 months ago
I think he's good, but I can't really say I'm a fan. I do follow the NBA, but not as much to love one particular player...
I am six feet (1.83 m) tall...
2 months ago
There's nothing wrong with having sex. It's even nice.
I always supported Mosley during his process, simply it's his private life and what he doing it's just he's own thing. If he enoyed in those orgies, fine.
from 2 months ago
Exactly my thoughts dagni ha ha .
I do agree, its his personal life and he can do what he wants in his spare time away from F1 .
One over on the scumbag press and papers , nice one .
Nice article Shak .
5 stars and POTD
2 months ago
good writing. Well, he will definitely want a good spanking for what he has done.
2 months ago
LOL, I love how open minded you Europeans are =)
If Bud Selig was caught with five hookers whipping his naked body no one in America would care about whether or not it had Nazi undertones—he'd be fired immediately and would face public ridicule for years. It's awesome that you guys are able to get in Mosley's corner and respect his personal choices.
I agree with your opinion Shak...I've watched the video and while i find it hilarious that Mosley enjoys this kind of thing ultimately it's his private life and it's a shame that NOTW tried to exploit the situation in this manner.
I also agree with Michael: Mosley clearly deserves a good spanking for his court victory.
from 2 months ago
I called Max Mosley's office for comment on this today, but his secretary told me that he couldn't answer because he was "tied up at the moment" :)
If he enjoys BDSM, then let him do it. If he were to do anything like that, he has to answer to his wife, not the rest of the world!
from 2 months ago
*blushing*, Sheiby, it wasn't me, i swear. I didn't tied him at that moment when you call Max office. Well yes i heard that some guy from Toronto wanted to talk to Max,....I swear in Ron Dennis honor that it wasn't me, and some nice Swedish pervert girl that i Didn't brought in his office ;)
from 2 months ago
Ron Dennis has honour now? :-P
2 months ago
great article
2 months ago
Listen F1 should be thankful they have Maqx Mosely Instead of me . There would be stories about me every week Ha ha :-)
Every man and woman deserves their privacy , including Mad Max .
I dont really like him all that much , but im with him on this one , the news of the world had no right publishing what they did , which is one of the instances why i only buy Manchester evning news , no Bull-Shizzle from them .
from 2 months ago
haha, stories about u every week, that would be great. go on big brother and you'll be in the papers every day haha!
does mark andrew enjoy a good arse whipping? haha! had to mate, sorry lol.
it is max's private life and it should remain that way. still, 40 years and his wife didnt have a clue, he must be a true legend at lying eh?
from 2 months ago
Ha ha , it wouldnt be for the kinda story max got i aint that freaky !!!!
but lets say NOTW would have a field day mate ha ha .
I know , how on earth did he manage 40 years without gettin caught . he was lucky not to .
from 2 months ago
ummm,.....i would like to hear those stories. ;)
Well we only talk about serious things here, and i don't think it's necessary to speak only about what those guys in F1 doing for motosport.
I liked that video, and i suggest.....well would love to see some articles like "what do you think, who is best in bed from curent F1 drivers".
from 2 months ago
Ha ha , Noooo Dagni , i cant possibly tell my stories he he ;) .
Who should write an article About them in bed ? me ? or someone else ?
I dont know who would be best out of the F1 drivers as im only into ladies :-)
from 2 months ago
oooh, dagni has a dirty mind haha! only kidding. that would be one strange article, maybe the females on here should collaborate.
maybe the males should collaborate and ask who would better, danica patrick or ..... erm....yep.
from 2 months ago
Well yes, Marky, i understand that (you naughty Manchester playboy).
I think you will tell me those stories somewhere in pvt.
But i'm into ladies too (like someone said here, we Europeans are open minded, at least i am), so i think I will write article about their wifes or girlfriends. With Jenni Dahlman-Räikkönen on top. Not sexual article, just something about them.
Well that's part of every Formula yksi driver: their love partners.
from 2 months ago
Interesting stuff there Mark. Maybe I should get a subscription of NotW! Any chance they deliver to Canada?
Also, Dagni, that's an interesting viewpoint you have there...
from 2 months ago
Naughty manchester playboy , ive not heard that one before dagni , but thank you .
and you like ladies as well.........nice .
there is no where on this site to go private :-) but if you can think of somewhere then ok lol .
i think it would be an interesting read if you wrote about the drivers wives and girlfriends.
Jenni has to be number 1 on your list , she is cute , especially in her horse riding gear ;-) he he .
from 2 months ago
Of course that Jenni is on top of my list. She's so smart, very laid-back and dedicated to Kimi. At that means a lot to him. She doesn't come often on races, and i respect that. It's very intresting view how it looks like to be wife or girlfriend of Formula 1 driver. I think i know how it feels like.
from 2 months ago
I'm making this article my POTD just because of the great conversation it has induced here...
: )
2 months ago
Sorry to take a different view, but Max Mosely is not just another person a Joe Schmo. Max Mosely is president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), this is a non-profit association that represents the interests of motoring organisations and car users worldwide. The FIA is also the governing body for Formula One and other international motorsports. So while it is easy to laugh it off, it is a serious issue, the moral character for a person in his position, is very important to many of the large businesses involved. The case against the tabloid, is a legal issue and does not change the actual facts. If one thinks that the likes of Mercedes and Toyota are happy about all of this and will not let this go away.
from 2 months ago
Good point there Paul, but I stand by my original point that if he wants to do it, then fine, but please respect his privacy.
As well, just a scenario for you, if he simply hired one prostitute and they went to a hotel, where there was a bed, would that still be considered awful or would you let it slide?
He wasn't elected by the people, so he doesn't necessarily need to have a moral fibre within him and since he was using his own money for his fun, then I don't know why there has to be this issue in the first place.
Also, what's the thing about being a French Canadian? I have plenty of French Canadian friends from Montreal and I don't get it, I seriously don't get it!
Finally, I hope that when I turn 68, I could have an active imagination like him ;-)
from 2 months ago
The French Canadian remark was a tongue in cheek in reference to their perceived views on sex and affairs. Seeing as his name was thrown in, that I would throw in a dig. There is an important commercial point regarding MM, that illustrates the problem. Many of today's major manufacturers main market place is the US. Corporate America would distance themselves from this type of thing like rats deserting a sinking ship. This is a sensitive issue, with fiscal accountability coming under close scrutiny, seeing the state of our global economy, any reason to not spend money will be used.
2 months ago
Great article Sheb, Wonderful Analysis! POTD and 5 starz indeed! While privacy is a big issue, the News of the World has had a chequered past what with the Beckhams getting a hefty out of court settlement. The FIA is not America where they can impeach a President on a Monica Lewinsky rather than on a Whitewater! But this also brings up an interesting debate, what if Max Mosley type of Presidents of some organization are murderers, child molesters and the lot? Then, would we take the same stand!
Why is a Ken Lay more punishable than a Max Mosley? Cause Ken Lay is in America and it is a financial fraud. If Ken Lay were caught with 5 prostitutes, all that it would end up on would have been on either the National Ledger or some such tabloid. So does that bring up an issue as to if we put financial fraud over morality? I dunno! On the other hand soldiers dying in an unfathomable war in Iraq and the people sending them for mass slaughter get off scotfree while the ones who parley with their secretaries while in the presidency get impeached. I am not sure that we have a common moral code that real tends to make any sense.
from 2 months ago
The following statement "On the other hand soldiers dying in an unfathomable war in Iraq and the people sending them for mass slaughter get off scotfree" SHOULD READ "On the other hand people sending the soldiers dying in an unfathomable war in Iraq in mass slaughter get off scotfree"
2 months ago
Hey Gov, If it happens on the other side of the Atlantic, Americans don't give a damn. No eyebrows were raised over Prince Harry's Nazi armband. Why worry?
from 2 months ago
Well there were a number of groups in the States that stated their opposition to Max over this in a rather vocal way!
from 2 months ago
for the first time ever, I have to agree with paul here. The American Group (I don't know the actual name) went nuts when they heard this, and were perhaps the most vocal in getting him out of office.
2 months ago
This is the latest from Planet 1
"Even pleas from Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone fell on deaf ears as Mosley stood his ground.
"That just shows you what is wrong with the FIA," added Stewart.
"No other organisation in the world would put up with that, but he is so powerful within the FIA.
"Very high standing people, like race team owners, team principals, team managers and drivers are frightened to speak out. That's wrong isn't it?
"That's the negativity within the FIA because they should be able to put their own house in order, but nobody is prepared to stand up.
"That's a bad sign - the bully factor."
Stewart claims confidence within the commercial side of the sport is not high due to Mosley's continued presence, and at a time when the economics of the world are far from healthy.
"Formula One is the world's largest capital investment sport," said Stewart.
"In Monaco, chairman and CEOs who traditionally attend did not appear because Max announced he would be there.
"There were others who had people working for them who made sure they would not be confronted or photographed shaking hands with Max Mosley.
"That's no way for the sport to behave.
"The FIA needs to be run by full-time, fully-paid executives, and completely restructured to provide correct corporate governance that is totally transparent."
Former Minardi team principal Paul Stoddart also feels Formula One is now "without credibility" while Mosley remains in office.
Even Stirling Moss, who concedes to liking Mosley and appreciates what he has achieved for motoring around the world, not just F1, does not think his position is tenable. "
2 months ago
I think i'm in the great mood, so i would rather talk about details from that BDSM orgy, then to concentrate on serious subjects.
Well i think Max could continue to make such movies when he step out. There's good money in "private films."
from 2 months ago
In the mood eh ..........lol . Dagni likes BDSM ;-0 , tell me when are you in england again , he he , cheeky me !!
If i was a F1 driver i think i would have dagni as my wife , your a Naughty scandanavian , and that i like :-) he he .
Some people still take sex as a taboo subject , when in reality everyone does it , weather it be with your wife/ girlfriend or a prostitute , i personally think its the coolest thing Max Mosely's done since he started his position at the FIA , nothing wrong with it .
I blame the newspaper for interfering in his Private life .
what he does after race weekends behind closed doors is his choice completely .
2 months ago
lol Marky, omg. do i like BDSM, well i told you we will discuss it about that in private.
Maybe i have good reason to visit Manchester again.
Yes, i just remembered that Damon Hill spoke about those things. I know that one of Williams mechanics told him that he received a call from one driver in middle of the night to go in his hotel room and help him. The mechanic was so scared that he runed away straight to the hotel room and saw bunch of girls on poor F1 driver (Damon didn't wanted to say which driver was that).Poor driver screamed "take at least one of them, i can't do It anymore."
2 months ago
tut tut . well i am interested to know now , so it would be an honour to talk in private about your BDSM visit to manchester he he :-) .
Poor damon hill , he bitten off more than he could chew , literally . I dont blame him though , he was using his fame as a way to have fun with lots of ladies .
The thing that makes me laugh most about max mselys video is that after they finished they had a cup of tea , classic . ..........excuse me max , one lump or two ? ha ha
from 2 months ago
I think that was the best part of the entire video! Max getting tea after his romp...
I can only imagine what it would be like:
Max: Quite nice ladies, wouldn't you say?
2 months ago
Wow Dagni, dare I ask?
Dropping by Toronto any time soon?
2 months ago
No. I've been to Montreal in June. Why do you ask that? I'm trying to spend my free time in Stockholm with my family, and in Jyväskylä at my home, drinking vodka and watching Max Mosley indepenendt BDSM production. lol
Why don't you visit Finland? It's nice here. And there's bunch of beautiful girls. And soon it will be Rally of 1000 lakes in my hometown. The greatest rallin ever.
from 2 months ago
Dagni , i think Shak asked if you were going to toronto soon because he is interested in a little BDSM too he he . :-)
from 2 months ago
I'd totally visit Finland, but only if I didn't have school :-(
Kind of sad, isn't it?
2 months ago
Just be thankful it was the FIA a group I had never heard of, and not PETA that got ticked off, they would never say die.
from 2 months ago
Good point there. However, AAA and the German equivalent basically threatened to break away if Mosley won the vote of no confidence...
They wanted his head on a platter with blood smeared all over it...
2 months ago
The News of the World was wrong to publish the Max Mosley story, everyone is entitled to their own private life. I sympathise for Max Mosley in that respect.
However at the same time he is the president of a global organisation and as such is expected to be a moral figure. Be it for the right or wrong reasons the reputation of the FIA has become tarnished and i believe Mosley should step down. He has cleared his name in a court of law now but in many ways the damage has been done. Should he step down at least he can walk with his head held high; he was not voted out of office and he has succesfully taken on the worlds biggest newspapers to court.
from 2 months ago
Well, since Mosley wasn't elected by the people in general, a moral fibre is not needed.
Just a thought...
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