There are many reasons why I like college football. The large number of teams and disparity in talent among them breeds an incredible variety of styles to both offense and defense that you just can’t get in the NFL.
College games have more excitement too, and to me, campus stadiums just have a better feel than the large, impersonal corporate palaces of the NFL.
One thing I can’t stand, though, is recruiting. More specifically, I can’t stand the huge amount of attention placed on recruiting from outside observers.
I can understand why people like it. It has the same kind of speculative feel as picking small cap stocks does. It’s the closest thing we have to a draft for colleges in today’s sporting culture that pays huge amounts of attention to the NFL and NBA drafts. The focus on it just rubs me the wrong way though.
To explain myself, I have made a list of four reasons why I don’t follow recruiting.
1. Commitments Aren’t Binding
Until a player signs on the dotted line on National Signing Day, no commitment is binding. A recruit can decide to change his mind up until the moment he puts the pen to the paper.
Plenty of players every year change their minds, which is perfectly fine. It is a huge decision, and they should be able to make up their mind whenever and however they want. However, it does mean that the big recruitniks get their feelings hurt every year when Jimmy Fivestars decides to reverse his oral commitment and switch from their school to another.
Just let me know who’s on the list once they’ve signed. I have better things to do than worry about whether a 17-year-old is wavering on his college choice or not. He owes nothing to anyone until he has put his commitment on paper.
2. Information Quality is Dodgy
Stan heard from his friend close to the Juggernaut University Bakery Raiders that Jimmy Fivestars is leaning towards an oral commitment. However, Joe knows a guy who knows Jimmy’s best friend and he says that Jimmy didn’t like the Raiders’ locker room on his official visit and might be looking elsewhere.
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Meanwhile Mike said that a rival coach is spreading misinformation about JU’s academics, while Larry heard that another rival coach is telling recruits that the Raiders’ coach might be out after this year if he doesn’t win a bowl.
Frank’s source says that Jimmy might not come if Hugh Positioncoach takes a job elsewhere, and it also says the JU coaching staff is lying about Hugh’s obvious interest in that coordinator opening at Directional State University.
I run across stuff like that all the time, and you know what? All of it may be true, or none of it may be true. So much misinformation gets spread around officially and unofficially through coaches, the media, message boards, and the recruiting services that you don’t know what to believe.
One guy swears something is true, while someone else promises you it’s not. It’s like people have forgotten that you really can’t believe everything you read on the Internet.
3. The Recruiting Services
The idea of grown adults contacting high school kids they don’t know on a regular basis just weirds me out. The idea of more grown adults paying money to see the information they get in real time creeps me out.
College coaches have a legitimate reason for contacting the kids, of course, so that’s fine. They have to sell their programs and get to know the athletes to make sure they want them on their teams.
On the other hand, reporters for recruiting services doing that really bothers me. Being 23 years old myself, I can remember high school and what it was like pretty vividly. While I wasn’t on the football team, I was still pretty busy with all of my commitments.
High school football players are busy enough between school, homework, practice, recruiting calls from coaches, and their social lives. They don’t need even more bother from reporters from websites who are just going to turn around and sell the information to their subscribers.
4. Busts
Not every highly touted high school player comes in and excels in college. Some low-rated players come in and become stars. The rating someone gets usually predicts how well the player does, but it is by no means perfect.
I’d rather go by what the head coach says after seeing the incoming freshmen in practice. If you set your expectations by what the coaches say after seeing a player go against real collegiate competition, you’re less likely to see someone as a bust.
In Florida’s case, the recruitniks said that getting RB Markus Manson out of Alabama was a huge coup and that he’d make a big difference. The coaches said he doesn’t run hard enough, and as a result Manson hasn’t played much.
The recruitniks said DE Carlos Dunlap could come in right away and contribute with his freakish build. The coaches said he learned no technique at all in high school, and it really showed when Dunlap came in during mop-up time.
By listening to the coaches, I am less likely to be upset over the way a guy performs (or doesn’t, as the case may be). I see Manson as a career backup rather than a colossal bust.
This keeps me from getting angry at Manson for not producing more, like some Gator fans I have seen get. That in turn makes my disposition towards the team a little sunnier, which is perfect for me since I like to enjoy football as much as possible.
To conclude, if you’re one of those recruitniks and you just have to have that latest information, I don’t know what to say to you. If you really want to get emotionally invested in high schoolers you don’t know because they might (might!) be interested in playing a sport for your favorite college, there’s probably nothing I can say to you to change that.
Just don’t expect me to jump in the middle of any arguments over recruiting with you.
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about 1 month ago
i'm kinda with you on this, but i do see the recruitniks side of things.
1) commitments- i think that just adds to the soap opera aspect of recruiting. i don't like it when a guy switches his commitment but it definitely makes for drama.
2)once agin this kinda goes along with the soap opera thing except this is more gossip.
let's face it, recruiting is manlu gossip and soap operas.
3)that creeps me out too.
4)this happens in the NFL draft, and everyone loves the draft, right? right????
great stuff, POTD from me.
from about 1 month ago
Thanks, Justin. I've never been one to follow the rumor mill or gossip about much of anything, so maybe it's just not in me.
about 1 month ago
In response:
1) I know its just an oral agreement, but what are we teaching these kids when its OK to break your word? If you can't keep a promise (verbal or otherwise) don't make it to begin with. It's that simple.
2) I agree. I also hate rumor-mills and the such. I think its ironic that these people show up on sites like Rivals.com and are paying to hear inside information from others only to be wrong 90% of the time about their own info. Which leads us to...
3) I'm all for the services that bring us information of any kind and I have NEVER blamed a company for selling a desired product. Your problem is with the people paying, not the services. I'm a huge Notre Dame fan and I like hearing about our recruits, but I'm with you in the fact that I couldn't name you a single "un-committed" player. Commit, and I learn.
4) I completely disagree. I couldn't begin to tell you how many coaches have told us how good these recruits are and then you never hear from them again (those coaches do, however, usually get fired).
All in all, a good article. I just disagree with some of the opinions.
from about 1 month ago
1) Everyone in the entire process knows that oral commitments are not binding in the same way that offer letters aren't binding. If a recruit wants to change his mind, fine. Coaches pull offer letters all the time, so it's only fair that players can change their minds too.
3) It's the services and everything that goes with them. I think the high schoolers shouldn't have to be bothered by them. It also bugs me when people make money off of the spread of speculative and inaccurate information, but what can you do?
4) Another part of only listening to coaches also means that when a player doesn't live up to billing, the focus is on the paid coach and not the unpaid athlete. I am well aware of the creeping professionalism in college athletics, but the burden of failure should be on those making millions and not those on the free dorm and meal plan.
And along the lines of what you said, focusing only on what the coach says is a way to hold the coach's talent evaluation and development accountable. Again, it puts the burden largely on the coaches and not the players.
about 1 month ago
Good stuff, David.
Can you say Willie Williams, Hurricanes or Fred Rouse, Seminoles. Both all everything what just 2-3 years ago.
Now, though, Williams is completely out of college football after being dismissed from Miami, attending West Los Angeles JC , and finally transferring to and then being dismissed from Louisville.
Rouse is now at FAMU after being dismissed from both FSU & UTEP.
The recruiters were all too willing to dismiss the (numerous) off the field issues with these two kids. That's not to say I don't believe in 2nd, perhaps, even 3rd chances. I view each incident as separate and apart from the others.
However, if the severity and frequency of the incidences rises, then there is obviously a problem that no university should have to tolerate or deal with. No matter how good you are.
about 1 month ago
If you do a thorough analysis of performance to star rating its obvious that WAY more 4 and 5 star players become all-conf, all-america, nfl draft picks etc than do 3 and 2 stars.
So I disagree with your article, recruiting is quite important and the rankings do a fairly good job.
from about 1 month ago
And I quote myself from the article: "The rating someone gets usually predicts how well the player does, but it is by no means perfect."
about 1 month ago
I dont like the hype and over-exposure of 18-year old kids. I think its a bad thing to hype up a kid going into college that more than likely won't be in the game his first year. I just like seeing which kids will commit, and I dont get bent up over if they choose another team.
Its the kid's choice where to go, and its their life to do as they wish. If they want to play for my Auburn Tigers, I'll welcome them into the fold. If they go on somewhere else (even to Alabama), I hope they have successfull carrers and get a chance to play in the big leagues.
In other words, Im with David on this one.
about 1 month ago
Not with you on this one. I love recruiting and follow it very closely, especially with Auburn.
I see your point and a lot of people think like you. I'm just not one of them.
I hear people all the time wondering where a kid came from, or wondering who that receiver is that's doing so good. Well, if you followed recruiting you would know where they came from.
You also would know why your team starts to struggle a few years in a row. Like Tennessee recently. When recruiting drops off, there's a chance that your team will start to drop off and then you will know why.
I just love following it. Of course I had friends who were recruited out of high school, so I payed more attention to it.
about 1 month ago
This recruiting phenomenon that so many are into today has reason to the madness.For one,it is a money maker;of that there can be no doubt.It also gives the 365 rabid CF fans a way to quench thier CF appetite during the dormant times.But I agree with David in that you just can't tell who will really be a player based on high school performance.But it gives folks something to chew on.But like David,I don't spend much time on it either.One thing for sure;follow it or not,it's BIG and it's here to stay.
about 1 month ago
I couldn't agree more with this article.
Other than occasionally hearing that my coaches are happy about a specific potential recruit, I'm not really interested in a list until it's finalized.
about 1 month ago
Notre Dame had a few top recruiting classes back in 2005, 2006. How's that working out for them? lol
from about 1 month ago
says the guys who knows nothing about College Football....
do you really expect a team with True Freshmen, RS Freshmen, and RS Sophomores to carry a team? Now, I'm a fan of the Trojans, but follow the Irish closely and I know college football, and the elite teams will have most of their starters from their 4th and 5th year senior classes. And not because they have seniority, but because they have the talent and the EXPERIENCE.
oh, and Notre Dame's 2005 recruit class was ranked somewhere in the 40's to 50's (which are Notre Dame's true seniors right now), wouldn't really call that a top recruiting class. The 2005 class currently has 9 players left on the roster. The 2004 class (5th year seniors) only has 3 players this year. All of Notre Dame's talent is in their Junior, Sophmore, and Freshmen classes right now (read: last year, only their sophmore and freshmen class).
I'm actually worried that the Irish are gonna start beating my Trojans soon.
from about 1 month ago
says the guys who knows nothing about College Football.... do you really expect a team with True Freshmen, RS Freshmen, and RS Sophomores to carry a team? Now, I'm a fan of the Trojans, but follow the Irish closely and I know college football, and the elite teams will have most of their starters from their 4th and 5th year senior classes. And not because they have seniority, but because they have the talent and the EXPERIENCE. oh, and Notre Dame's 2005 recruit class was ranked somewhere in the 40's to 50's (which are Notre Dame's true seniors right now), wouldn't really call that a top recruiting class. The 2005 class currently has 9 players left on the roster. The 2004 class (5th year seniors) only has 3 players this year. All of Notre Dame's talent is in their Junior, Sophmore, and Freshmen classes right now (read: last year, only their sophmore and freshmen class). I'm actually worried that the Irish are gonna start beating my Trojans soon.
from about 1 month ago
Great response Leo. Michael, Im sure your just trying to make a funny statement, but lets get some facts before making comments.As for the last 2 years highly recuited classes, and if hopefully the current class which is ranked 10 by espn. Lets see what the next two years hold.
about 1 month ago
Bah! I love recruiting season. Makes me look at who MIGHT come to the school in 2008. It might be complete bullshit, but it's fun, too.
And signing day's great too!!
about 1 month ago
GO BAKERY RAIDERS!
about 1 month ago
I think recruiting is part of sports.
Whether you talk about it or not, without recruiting there wouldn't be teams. Maybe saying you don't like the hype surronding it, ok, but back 10 yrs ago when Rivals and Scout and other sites didn't exist recruiting still did.
AEM
from about 1 month ago
the article is titled "Four Reasons Why I Don't Follow College Football Recruiting"
the operative word being *Follow*
about 1 month ago
I agree with you completely...most people point out that the recruiting services are usually right, but ask yourself. How hard is it to guess that teams like LSU, Texas, OSU, UGA, USC, etc... will have great recruiting classes?
I'm not paying $9.99 a month for that. I could tell you that myself.
Plus I've noticed that we've had several players over the years who were not ranked high when we offered, but when other big teams started to express interest all of a sudden their stars increase.
We had this happen the other day...we had a three star commit who started getting interest from some other schools, and BINGO...now he's a 4 star...go figure.
about 1 month ago
What I don't like about the recruiting process are these arbitrary star ratings rivals.com and scout.com give high school players. The only reason, and yes only reason Terrelle Pryor was the No. 1 ranked guy is because he remained uncommitted. The longer someone remains uncommitted the higher rated they become. Rivals.com wants their No. 1 player to be uncommitted until signing day so they can play up the hype. While other kids who are better have committed before hand and therefore are not the No. 1 prospect. I'm not saying Terrelle Pryor is not a great QB, but he did not become No. 1 until other high school players ahead of him committed.
Georgia has too QBs committed for 2009 Zach Mettenberger and Aaron Plant. At every QB camp they have attended they have been the best QBs there. However, because they have committed Rivals.com and scout.com keep them low in the rankings. All the recruiting sites do is build hype and play of paranoia.
about 1 month ago
great stuff. and an addendum to number four, not every college star becomes a star nfl player, so it goes to every level
about 1 month ago
Great article, well-written.
about 1 month ago
Good Stuff David,
This is the same thing I have thought myself for a long time. I know recruiting is important but I don't care that you ran for 5,000 yards your senior year. I want to see you be that star in college.
about 1 month ago
True indeed. I don't follow recruiting that closely, but a lot of friends do, and I must admit that reading/hearing about potential prospects from them is kind of cool.
Plus so many dudes follow recruiting that I sometimes feel like that guy on the ESPN commercials who would talk out of his butt. How do these guys memorize the stats and hometowns of all these kids?
YouTube videos are cool, but if it's a running back--and it usually is--it's pretty much a sure-bet that the kid is going to rip off a bunch of 80 yard runs or jump over some poor sap. And they are all to the same song about making money or something...
Good read, David.
about 1 month ago
Great read David, and while I disagree with you to an extent (because I love to hypothesizing the hell out of college football) I get sick of the "verbal commitment" notifications I receive from Scout.com and other websites that clog my email inbox day in and day out. If they haven't already signed the papers, I don't really care what they say, at least until its official.
Plus, I remember when Justin Zwick was touted to be the greatest thing to happen to Ohio State since sliced bread. Buckeye fans remember how well that turned out...
from about 1 month ago
I think it could've been far worse. We ended up with Troy Smith instead. Probably cost us the Texas game, though.
from about 1 month ago
You're absolutely right, that was a blessing in disguise. I was trying to sound sarcastic without sounding like a jackass, which as always, is incredibly hard to do on an internet message board. This site needs winking smilies ;)
about 1 month ago
Great article. The best big back or fullback in America is Trevor Moose Theriot Get this, I wrote a story for the Redding Searchlight about Theriot out of Newport. The guy was Shrine MVP 2005, Wendy's Heisman winner, All CIF, rushed for 1,500 yards as a 220 white back and first year tailback that doubled as one of the nation's finest backers. Rivals.com? ONE STAR!!!! At the Nike combine at USC Theriot rumbles 4.62. ONE BLOODY STAR FROM RIVALS AND STUDENT SPORTS. Last year Theriot was a 13 games starter for UCLA, best fullback in the PAC 10 and Rick N. gave him a forever full ride scholarship. Theriot also broke Mo Drew's frosh squats record. The entire nation despite national awards missed this kid. Agreed. Rivals can shove it.
about 1 month ago
I agree with you, David.
I have no interest in recruiting, except for national signing day. That is only interesting because something actually happens.
A verbal commitment is as good as the paper it is written on.
about 1 month ago
Ouch, Leo that hurt. It was just a joke, calm down.
The Trojan fan takes offense to a Notre dame joke, that's odd.
about 1 month ago
Nice David! Here's my biggest beef- the recruiting services will bump up a 3 or 4 star up one star solely due to the fact that Johnny got an offer from a big school. In fact, most players ratings move up the more offers they get from elite schools.
Jeff Byers, from Colorado was a perfect example. He played against poor teams and was supposedly the best center in the nation. SC signed him, and it proved that his body couldn't take the grueing hits of serious competition. THIS IS HIS 5TH YEAR, AND HE'S GUARDING USC's QB'S BLIND SIDE...I'M HOLDING MY BREATH.
Have you read Meat Market? It's an amazing book (pretty short) once you get past the first two chapters on Ed Orgeron's background-although it's pretty interesting on Ed's recruiting tactics. But it's my fave book...up there with Moneyball (Sabermetrics/Billy Ball)
Ok, I'm weird. I don't read romance novels. But I highly recommend the book...it's amazing! A must read for any college football fan.
about 1 month ago
I admit I am addicted to the recruiting process. I love checking in on who is the latest ND visit or commit. But I also hate the process I, understand that no oral commitment is set in stone. Im a high school teacher and also coach. I look at these kids and realize that while CFB fans hype up these kids and scold them for changing their minds, there only kids. They forget their homework, act immature, show up late to class, just like normal kids. Then there is a large group of fans who put all this pressure on them to live up to some recruiting ranking. its pretty unfair. I liken it to a pro player singing a huge free agent contract. Now they have the pressure of performing. Same with the kids. They get 4 or 5 star status and if they dont get heisman consideration, their a bust.
Unfortnuatley things wont change, so hopefully coaches help these kids stay focused, not read the blogs or recruiting sites. Foucs on school, and improving and having fun.
about 1 month ago
I mean, I think you should have to follow recruiting. If you look at teams with the best recruiting classes, they usually have the best teams. USC, UT, Floirda, Miami, Ohio State etc.... Even if they underachieve, and dont win the National Title, doesnt mean they are a bad team. It is true, that the system isnt perfect, because some people are busts, but if thats true, why have a pre season top 25?
from about 1 month ago
There shouldn't be a preseason top 25.
about 1 month ago
I follow some recruiting but do not like some of the recruiting processes.
1. Kids are lied to. Ex, a DL whom Florida wanted heard rumors his position coach and primary recruiter was leaving. He was told the coach was not leaving. Soon after signing day, the coach bolts to the NFL.
2. Money or perks are sometimes involved, right Maurice Clarett, Rhett Bomar, etc - or am I wrong? Some highly sought recruits expect something under the table and, basically, shop around.
3. Bashing other schools recruiting the same recruit or negative recruiting. If coaches can't fill their time with a recruit talking about your school, there's not that much distinguishing their school from others.
4. Some recruits should not go to college. They end up with an education or some continue getting in trouble with the law. They go to football factories. Academic support at some schools is making up easy classes to keep them eligible. Recruits find this out when they visit. The coach worries about the late night call from law enforcement.
5. Poor high school academic records are ignored and the recruit is coddled or greyshirted.
6. Mostly, I dislike how so many recruits are told they are integral to a program's success and then
buried on the depth chart. How many top RBs can one team need? Usually the student-athlete transfers.
from about 1 month ago
1. I've heard some about the ordeal with Omar Hunter, and that story is not confirmed. Notre Dame fans say he was lied to, Florida fans say he was told the truth. It's all just hearsay and he said/he said until someone can come up with hard proof. I've yet to see any, and quotes from message boards don't count.
2. Not sure about Clarett, but in Bomar's case the job at the car dealership happened after he was already at school.
4. Sometimes, those guys get their lives turned around and become better citizens as well as college players. Given the alternatives for many of them, I'll give them a shot in a football program where some get the first taste of structure and a strong, male father figure-type person in their lives.
6. Depth charts aren't a secret, and the games of top programs are on TV. If immediate playing time is what a recruit wants, it's not too difficult to find schools with a lack of depth at an area. Any preseason football magazine you can pick up for under $10 provides that information all in one place even. Recruits should be doing homework just as the coaches do.
from about 1 month ago
Thanks, David, for your comments. Mine were, of course, my generalizations with examples that may illustrate them. Lisa's suggestion of reading "Meat Market" is very appropriate for the negative aspects of recruiting - lies, etc.
In response to your comments,
1. Kids are lied to. As far as Omar Hunter, here's Hunter's report: "I got a voice mail left to me last night by a coach that was recruiting me that coach Mattison was leaving Florida to go to Baltimore," said Hunter. "They told my coach the same thing. That's how things got started. That got to me a little bit, but I found out that wasn't going to happen." (Rivals interview)
Gatorsports's report of Mattison's decision to leave the day after signing day: "Mattison said he struggled with the decision and wasn't sure on Saturday whether or not he would take the offer. Mattison, Florida's co-defensive coordinator, turned down Baltimore's first offer." - though he did accept. And "Although Mattison's replacement is already on board — former Iowa State head coach Dan McCarney — Meyer still has to replace running backs coach Stan Drayton and safeties coach Doc Holliday".
Hard to believe that Florida assured Hunter that Mattison was not going to leave, while Mattison struggled with an offer on the table from the NFL - but did not disclose, and had Mattison's replacement from outside Florida's then current coaches in one day - the day after signing day.
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20080210/NEWS/37419397/1090/GATORS01
You may have also read cfb360's article on Florida recruiting. 31,000 of us did.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/37426-florida-football-is-meyer-an-urban-legend-or-urban-liar
2. I agree with your clarificationt on Bomar. Don't you wonder if current players benefitting from perks never tell any of the recruits they are paired up with?
3. I agree with giving some disadvantaged recruits chances, but a coach should discipline fairly. I also agree that the alternative for many would be a lifestyle that put them in prison or worse. Bobby Bowden has recently said he worries when some of his players return to their neighborhoods at school break and getting the late night phone call. Bowden also does not blame them for carrying guns for protection in those situations. I do hope those given chances take advantage of them.
4. My point was not depth charts but what coaches tell the recruit. Every recruit is fully aware of depth charts. An upfront coach will emphasize that the recruit will have to work for PT, but that he will play the best player at a position.
from about 1 month ago
Throw this article in the ring: http://www.gainesville.com/article/20080503/NEWS/478794850
and we can assemble a rough timeline:
1. Mattison turns down an offer with the Ravens
2. Someone learns of this, and tells Hunter that Mattison is leaving
3. Sometime before Feb 5, UF says no, Mattison is not leaving
4. On Feb 5, Meyer tells Hunter that Mattison is leaving, but promises to bring in another good coach
5. On Feb 6, Hunter signs with UF
6. On Feb 8*, Dan McCarney is hired
7. On Feb 9, Mattison has second thoughts about leaving
8. On Feb 10, Mattison officially takes Baltimore job
In that article I posted the URL to above, we find out that Hunter threw his recruiting back open without first having a particular school in mind, saying "I really was wide open." The guy ended up deciding to go some place closer to home with a style that fits him better.
I'm not sure where the treachery in all of this is, and the people who call Hunter a fraud are shameful. He had to make the best decision for him, not for anyone else. Until he put his name on paper for a school, he owed that school nothing. If his de-committing from Notre Dame messed up these people's lives that much, it's time to reevaluate some priorities.
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_McCarney
from about 1 month ago
David,
I think you are reading too much into my comments. "Treachery"? "people who call Hunter a fraud are shameful"? "messed up people's lives"?
I think some recruits are lied to in order to get them to sign letters of intent. Omar Hunter and his family may or may not think this is the case. Once he signed, he is not going to criticise Florida.
I'll accept the timetable from the Gainesville paper. Hunter said - "I got a voice mail left to me last night by a coach that was recruiting me that coach Mattison was leaving Florida to go to Baltimore". He contacted Florida about the rumor that Mattison was leaving and "I found out that wasn't going to happen." Two days after the signing, McCarthy was hired to replace Mattison. Mattison has "second thoughts" then accepted the Ravens' offer. All can agree the Baltimore offer was at least on the table when the Hunters contacted Florida about Mattison leaving.
He was not totally committed to Notre Dame and made his best choice. Best of luck to him.
Some aspects of some recruiting do remind me of a meat market.
from about 1 month ago
"Treachery" was sarcastic overstatement, but I guess my tone of voice didn't come through in the written word.
The article you linked to by cfb360 called Hunter a fraud, so if you have a problem with that, take it up with him.
Also, read the article I supplied a URL to. Since it was written in May, it is a lot more complete than the things written in February as events were unfolding.
from about 1 month ago
And I thought you did not like to follow recruiting.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Cheers.
about 1 month ago
#4's second sentence should read "without an education"
about 1 month ago
What do you personally think of Terrelle Pryor?
from about 1 month ago
I only know what is unavoidable thanks to SportsCenter and the various online news outlets talking about him. I have no idea whether he'll be Vince Young or Josh Portis; until he plays against collegiate competition for a couple seasons I don't know what he'll end up being.
I only picked the picture of him in the Army All-American game because it was the best picture I could find to symbolize the recruiting process.
from about 1 month ago
I know, but as a OSU fan, I would like to know what other fans know.
about 1 month ago
How can you not follow recruiting, it is the foundation of a programs success
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