Newsday/Mr Logan back on Grassy Knoll with Snow vs Nolan

NYI Fan CentralSenior Analyst IJuly 13, 2008

Newsday: Greg Logan picks up where he left off earlier on Ted Nolan vs. Garth Snow about the coach's future status with a few of the things Botta touched on in one of his final blogs from a week ago.

Ted Nolan is quoted as saying his relationship with the GM has been the same, that he spoke with Garth Snow and wants to concentrate on coaching and doing the best job he can, that he had no input into signing Doug Weight or Mark Streit and that Garth Snow and the scouting staff made those decisions.

Logan speculates Nolan was not consulted about trading down for Josh Baily. He also speculates to date that Nolan has received no assurances from the organization that he will be the coach and reports Garth Snow declined comment.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Greg Logan and New York Islander coverage in Newsday, two steps forward, five backwards.

Does Logan hold some of this stuff and pick a moment to dump it on the public to hold down anything positive about this team, or does his editor demand a team barely being covered have to become a soap opera and force this kind of coverage from him?

Twenty nine other clubs have successful or struggling coaches fired or rehired without these conspiracy theories a running sidebar in their newspapers for months.

Did someone on the Newsday staff see the website article on the new season tickets sold and decide what can we do get something negative stirred up?

You have to read the actual quotes vs. the beatwriter speculation here folks. As usual, what is the point of this unless Garth Snow or Ted Nolan confirm it?

Worst of all, Newsday is contradicting itself with some of this because anyone who reads the paper knows what they reported already and see the mistakes in coverage.

All this comes off as forced by Newsday and designed to stir up negative fan reaction. It would be another thing if Snow and Nolan were quoted and confirmed this speculation, because then it would be fair game and I would have no problem with it.

If Nolan is fired so be it, but aside from that it's time for Greg Logan to get off the grassy knoll with regard to this until they are quoted and say there are problems.

It almost feels now like we were being set up with all those great updates the last few days.

Worst of all, Logan's speculation is not even correct according to the other writer in his own paper in Katie Strang, and Logan contradicts himself.

Get those headlines ready for TSN and the Canadian Press along with all the other papers and fire up the rumor mill.

Newsday: Islanders' Nolan on the hot seat
You know the drill by now.

All I ask my blog readers to do here is read how many mistakes in reporting were made here and then make up your own mind.


Let's take these one at a time:
Logan writes, " Contacted recently at the hockey camp he runs in Ontario, Nolan was asked if he's confident he will be coaching the Islanders when training camp begins in mid-September. "I'm confident in my ability to coach," Nolan said. "I know I've got one year left on my contract, and I'm going to make it the best year of my coaching career. Hopefully, it will get me another one."

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Recently? All those quotes were back on May 2 in the Sault Star and were blogged about at the time here where Ted Nolan denied any problems with Garth Snow or Rick DiPietro but was quoted as saying it was difficult coaching under the circumstances of a one-year contract. This begs the question, was Logan only finding this out now or saving it as fodder to stir the pot?

According to Logan, Ted Nolan feuded openly with Snow about his role in the decision to part with free-agent goaltender Wade Dubielewicz. When they appeared together later at an Islanders function, the rift was evident as they expressed opposing views on how to improve the power play Snow favored better preparation, and Nolan suggested better players were needed.

NYI Fan Central Comments:
Katie Strang covered this event on June 4 (while Logan was AWOL after creating this huge issue over Dubielewicz) and at the time reported herself that basically it boiled down to a minor misunderstanding in Newsday's Islander blog here.

This begs the question what open feud and if the other Newsday writer did not report any of this on June 5, where has Greg Logan been for over a month to where he's making all these claims now on July 13?

The next day, on June 5, Strang wrote another article which was posted on this blog with a full summary here with Garth Snow's comments that we're a tight-knit organization and the situation with confidence in Wade Dubielewicz was not as big of a deal as what people are making it out to be.

In addition, the GM said everything is great regarding his relationship with the coach but prefers that situations like this be kept within the four walls.

Ted Nolan for his part felt there was no disagreement at all. he said he and Snow agreed on the conditioning, that Dubie was hurt in the off season, so he couldn't come in and that sometimes that's construed as lack of confidence, but it was maybe a lack of communication.

This is what Logan writes is an an open feud? Where were you to tell us all this new information Strang did not report on when she was at this team event and told us none of this in her article?

Logan then writes: Nolan and the organization picked up steam in late March when the coach was rebuffed by owner Charles Wang after expressing his desire to receive an extension before the final season of his three-year contract.


NYI Fan Central Comments:

Picked up steam? Rebuffed? Logan was the only steam behind this on March 23 when he asked Ted Nolan about his contract and thought this was such a critical issue we had no game day coverage.

Ted Nolan on March 23 never expressed any public desire to receive an extension of his contract. He was quoted as having said he plans to fulfill his contract, however he has to find out exactly what the plans are and that there have been no discussions. At the time he even said he did not even have an agent.

Did someone hijack Greg Logan's account at Newsday to stir up garbage tonight? Most of this is simply not correct.

Of course, we had coverage of this back on March 23 here while Newsday's actual link is outdated here but a few sites have summaries of this article here.

Worst of all in this article, Logan writes:
To date, Nolan has received no assurances from the organization that he will be the coach. Snow, who declined comment, is emphasizing the development of young players as opposed to acquiring the veterans Nolan prefers.


NYI Fan Central Comments:

Funny, Mr. Logan, but you have Garth Snow's quotes on April 10 in your own article here you asked Garth Snow if there's any reason to believe Nolan won't return, and according to you Snow said, "I don't see any reason. He's our coach."

Here's the full Newsday link which is outdated to this article here which Logan did a blog preview for at the time here that is still available.

Logan even reports Josh Bailey and Nolan's son Jordan were teammates in the Ontario Hockey League last season, yet Nolan wasn't consulted about the pick.


NYI Fan Central Comments:

Here is the Isles top pick commenting in the Windsor Star on June 20 that he had already met Ted Nolan a couple of times, but don't really know him here. 


Bottom Line:

I'm going to have to start saving the full articles again and keep all the quotes if the level of reporting is going to be this poor just to call our beatwriter on some of what he is misreporting before all these links go outdated. 

Again, if Snow and Nolan say there is a problem, I would have no issue with any of this. But even when a fan like myself just following the articles/quotes can easily point out all these contradictions between writers at Newsday or outright mistakes, it's more than fair again to question what is going on at Newsday with Greg Logan.


Now let's get down to business:

Are all coaches consulted on free agents, about moving down in the draft or about prospects? Maybe there is a legit problem there and a disconnect based on that and what Botta wrote about or Garth Snow and Ted Nolan have their own way of working.

All organizations work differently and coaches generally do not know prospects. Some coaches just want to coach what they are given, and some general managers want to follow their plan above all.

I do not know what will happen from here. All I do know is Ted Nolan will be at prospects camp. If things become a problem, there could be a change sooner than later but a lot of this stuff has not been fair to the club or its fans and worst of all some of this Newsday speculation is contradicted by Newsday itself.

What was the point of any of this to open prospects camp in mid-July?


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