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Welcome to Tribe Talk, where Bleacher Report's Tribe fans weigh in on the ups and downs of the Indians each week throughout the season.
This week we debate how to divvy up the blame for the season between Mark Shapiro and Eric Wedge, how Shapiro’s strategy of cobbling together a team from spare parts has backfired, and what players should and shouldn’t say to the media.
I would like to thank this week's participants Dale Thomas, Scott Miles, and Jeff Smirnoff for their contributions.
This discussion is open to all, so please feel free to comment below and pitch in your thoughts on the questions we're addressing this week.
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1. The chances of Eric Wedge being fired have been discussed ad nauseum over the course of the season. A notably less popular topic is the fate of Mark Shapiro.
Most everyone agrees Wedge should be held accountable for the team's terrible performance, but is it fair that Wedge has been saddled with nearly all of the blame while Shapiro is rarely criticized?
Who do you think is more to blame, Shapiro or Wedge? If you were in charge, who would you fire: Wedge, Shapiro, or both?
Dale Thomas: Well, it was Shapiro that hired Wedge in the first place, so Shapiro is on auto-blame in my opinion. Shapiro seems to happily seek out the mediocre, whether it is players or staff, then makes small moves that have small effects. Each season, it's hard to believe (and hard to stomach) what "didn't" happen to fill the team's needs.
This is not to say that Shapiro hasn't done a few significant things, but those things tend to be outgoing moves of contributing players (Casey Blake, CC Sabathia, etc.). Then the team just moves guys around the field and plays a lot of yo-yo between the Major and Minor Leagues.
The Indians are stuck on a hamster wheel, and BOTH guys in charge share equal dizziness. That said, the big guy should go first, then the rest follow on out the door like rats to the Shapiro'd Piper.
Samantha Bunten: Shapiro's mostly futile maneuvers to tweak the team over the years have done as much, if not more, damage to the franchise as Eric Wedge's bumbling managerial stint. He is to blame at least as much as Wedge is, and Wedge has been taking nearly all the heat for it despite the fact that he’s no more than 50 percent of the problem.
While Shapiro has made a number of slick trades with very positive outcomes for players like Sizemore, Lee, Choo, and Hafner, the drafts he has overseen have been appallingly bad and disasters outnumber successes among his free agent acquisitions.
Further, Shapiro's relentless defending of Wedge has left the two inextricably linked. Shapiro has tied his own fate to Wedge's by defending his beleaguered manager when he should not have done so. Shapiro essentially made Wedge and himself into a package deal, which means whoever goes first will likely take the other down with him.
If it were up to me I would fire them both, but the first guy I would send packing would be Shapiro. His mistakes, in my opinion, have cost the team more dearly than Wedge's, highlighted by the fact that in hiring and refusing to fire wedge, Wedge's mistakes are also in a way his own.





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