Last Saturday, I had the pleasure, no, the honor of interviewing former WCW announcer Scott Hudson, who has worked in WCW, WWE, and TNA. I had been wanting him on my radio show for some time and finally got him.
Since he worked in WCW, I wanted to ask him the pressing questions many fans wanted to know. And that is, how did WCW die? I mean, you had the best wrestlers and all of the biggest names in wrestling there.
How in the world is it possible that it could go under? Well, Scott Hudson was really nice and answered all of the questions that I had, and he gave us some wonderful answers. And now I bring it to you, the interview with Scott Hudson.
Joe: Hello, Mr. Hudson, welcome. It's an honor to have you here.
Hudson: Thanks for having me on, guys.
Joe: Scott, obviously you are a big influence in wrestling, but we want to know some inside stuff. What are you into right now in the wrestling world or outside of it?
Hudson: Well, I am in criminal justice and have been since 1994. So all through the WCW run, I was doing that and still do. I do WEW with the wrestling world. It is Women's Wrestling and many are there for the T & A aspect, so many are great athletes too.
No one seems to have an ego there either, like in WCW and WWE back in the day. I work for Monday Night Mayhem. Still a husband and father, of course.
Joe: Wow, criminal justice. That is pretty cool. Now, not too sure on everything there. I do know a little about what you do. But I know you can't talk about everything, of course.
But since you are a part of criminal justice, then, have you ever been involved with the wrestling world on steroids? I mean there has been a huge scandal on that. I know you can't tell us too much, but...
Hudson: Well, that is true, but of course if the answer was yes, then I couldn't tell you about it. But it is no. I have not had to get involved there. I am mostly in fraud, like check fraud, and stuff like that.
Gang activity I am in as well. Mostly all the drug stuff like meth and things like that, I do not handle. But if it were yes, I couldn't say too much about it. But the answer is for real no.
Joe: Oh, we understand that, of course. No prob. Of course, we know you have worked in WCW. You were there for a while. What do you think is the main reason or reasons it died?
Hudson: Oh yes, I was there, right in the heart of it, from 1995 forward. Well, it is basically that the inmates were running the asylum. You don't do that in other companies, so why there? They put it into the talent's hands instead of management.
You have to have a consistent balance. The talent should not control everything. Management should have.
I love Eric Bishoff; I would follow him into battle any day. But he would say even that he gave up too much. He let them control it. When things were going great, he let them control the contracts—when they would work, how much. But the minute there was a chink in the armor, the talent said, "No, I am not coming in." They would say no, I worked my dates. I might work September to December. But no PPVs.
Although they are contractually obligated, they would work the dates, so what could you do really?
Joe: Oh, yes, I totally agree. There was a lot of talent. Booker, I remember, would say he wouldn't wrestle until the night of a Nitro show. Chris Jericho said he would go into Bishoff's office and ask for a bonus of like $140,000 and get $180,000.
And then he would say, aw, should have asked for more. Jericho said in the end the money was all good, but it wasn't worth it. I mean we have all this money, but nothing to show for it.
And even he said the inmates were running everything, so...
Hudson: Well, we didn't have a big meeting to find out what story we would say here. But to be there was the same for all involved. And having the inmates run the show is not too bad, because you needed that a bit.
But it was too much in the end. You needed to give some talent responsibility here. If we had a roster full of Stings, it would be different, but we didn't. We had a locker room full of egos after their own and friends' interests.
And guys like me in the media had to watch this take place and see the inmates have all the power when we didn't. We just had to sit back. They could care less about us.
With that mindset, you would fail.
Joe: Oh, yes, totally agree again. And going back to the talent there. You would see guys like Kevin Nash and Sting and others give you a great match. And a better one too without really rehearsing.
Nash said the young guys now can't do that, can't ad lib at all. When a match goes bad or it is something they didn't go over in choreography, then they don't know what to do.
Hudson: That's a great point, and a lot of that goes back to the Powerplant, our WCW training center. All we would train them to do is be bodybuilders and spot artists. They would come out with great bodies and everything.
But we didn't train them on the mic. They had to sell, transition, and all of that. The trainers there didn't do that. We see that now in TNA and WWE especially. It is all revisited. Some can't transition, and are not the total package.
Joe: Agreeing again with you, and this goes back to Nitro vs. RAW. WE won, I believe, 82 weeks in a row. And seeing Bishoff on RAW was crazy, right? I mean, you bring in the biggest rival arguably the WWE ever had.
I remember when he gave away the results on RAW once.
Hudson: Yeah, this goes back to when RAW was live one week and the next week it was taped. They would come into a city and do the live show then right after that, they would tape the next week.
We were live every week. He did it through Tuli Giovani. They gave him a hard time about it, when it wasn't his fault. He did what he was told as he was supposed to by management.
You know, that reminded me of another thing when you asked that. When we were winning, we were doing well. And so was RAW. We both raked in great numbers. So it wasn't as if no one was watching one show.
We would have 8 to 10 million viewers out of RAW and Nitro. When WCW went under, WWE didn't get those numbers. They stopped working to get there. They quit trying. That is the good part of competition.
Take a look at the WWE ratings. One week WCW is there then not. Most of the audience left. It wasn't as if they died. The fans had great TV to watch.
Joe: Yeah, I see, but one thing people ask about all the time. Especially on B/R, where I write, they always ask, was NWO the reason WCW went under? Or at least one of the reasons?
I mean they had red and black, white and black, it seemed that it would never end right.
Hudson: Well, I have been asked that a lot. And in a word, NO, it seemed as if they just couldn't let it go. They should have stopped it six months earlier when it was possible to do so.
As a main event angle, it was good. But we had Goldberg who seemed to be hotter than NWO was. The undefeated streak and everything helped. So we could transition out of the NWO into that and it would be OK.
It was Mike Tenay's idea and a good one at that. But we couldn't survive the finger poke of doom, if you remember that. When Nash beat Goldberg and he was defeated, we lost right there.
We couldn't get out of it, that was one of the main reasons, and the reason why was that we didn't prepare for it. Everything was done before, and then we could book the next week's show before too long.
Then talent kept on with the, "no, I am not doing that angle," and, "no, I won't go to that date." That was when we started going under.
Joe: Well, thank you for coming on Mr. Hudson; we really appreciate it. You are the best guest we've ever had.
Hudson: Thanks, and I always love to talk business, the business of wrestling, and thank you for letting me do that.
Now, this was just a small excerpt of the entire hour-long interview. We had more topics we discussed with him too. But do not fret. It is still in the archives on www.wildtalkradio.com. Go there and look under Joe Burgett's Wrestling Report.
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