Alright, Bama fans. From you to me, it's time we had a talk.
Alabama fans are some of the nicest people I have ever met in my life. And I say that having met a lot of people from different locations/different teams. But guys, there are some things that have got to change.
The SEC is known for its football programs. Or, they used to be anyway. But, more than that, it is known for the type of fans we have. I used to think that we were known as being fans that stood behind our team no matter what. I used to think we were known for having some of the classiest fans out there. While some of that is true, some of it is very wrong.
As I go through BR mainly, I see the comments that are left to Alabama fans. Things that are being said about how classless we are and how arrogant we seem to be. Which, is apparently, because of our smug and arrogant coach.
So, I need to say this. And, I'm sure I will get shunned from the Alabama community, but hopefully not.
I see Alabama fans as being some of the nicest and most classy people out there. Granted, I am slightly biased. However, maybe it's because I'm right in the thick of it. Maybe it's because I don't see what others see. So, I took a step back...and saw what everyone was talking about.
1. The "Bama Can Do No Wrong" Attitude
Ladies and Gents, let me tell you. Bama can do wrong. Take a look at the last couple of years before Saban got here. Actually, take a look at this past year. You don't have to look very far. I understand the mentality of supporting your team. Believe me I do. However, understand that your team can do wrong.
The sooner you learn that is the sooner that you can actually look at games and say, "Oh, this is where we need to improve." If Nick Saban saw the team as the all holy shrine we wouldn't get anywhere. There are always things that need to be fixed. Even under the Bear things weren't perfect. (Although they came very close.)
2. The "Apologetic" Bama Fan
Alabama loses games. It is going to happen. That is the game of life and football. Especially college football. Stop making excuses as to why they lost the game. Over the past two days since Alabama lost to Utah that's really all I've heard. Excuses.
It's very simple. Alabama got beat by Utah. They were the better team at this game. They came to play. Now, accept that, and move on. Look forward to the new season. It's only four months until A-Day after all. You can come up with all of the excuses you'd like...but the fact of the matter is we lost. At the end of the game the scoreboard said Alabama lost.
We got beat by the better team. Both in that game and against Florida. We got beat by the team that came to play. For that, they are a better team. We didn't lose to Utah because Andre Smith was sent home. We didn't lose "because John Parker was back to his old self." We lost simply because we lost.
Stop making it into something else.
3. The "Bill Clinton is to Monica Lewinsky as Nick Saban is to God" Analogy
Ok...maybe that was a bad analogy. But at any rate, Nick Saban is not God. God is God. The "Bear" was not God. Nick Saban is not God.
Nick Saban has done an amazing job as a coach at Alabama in the two years that he has been here. Everyone even outside of the program was shocked by how well Alabama did this season. 12-2 was way better than most would have dreamed possible. Not only has he done an amazing job on the field but he has done an amazing job with these guys off the field as well.
Kudos to him. I'm glad to see 32 million dollars doing it's part.
However, we shouldn't bow to him. The commandment did not read "Thou shall have no other Gods before me. Except Nick Saban. He's OK." Yeah, no. Sorry to burst your bubble. And sorry about that Nick Saban costume you were planning to use for the Bethlehem rendition. It was cute though. Really.
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12 6 months ago
Great analysis of the Bama fan Cam. We can all learn from your wise words. I have had the pleasure of living in several parts of this great nation, and I can tell you there are no better fans than Alabama fans, and no worse fans than some Alabama fans.
I've lived in Florida ( Florida, Florida State, and Miami fans are all as passionate as we are), I've lived in Virginia (Va. Tech fans are some crazy people too), and I've lived in Mississippi (Ole Miss fans can keep up with the best of them, along with Miss. St.), Kansas City(Missouri fans are also very passionate, along with Kansas Basketball), and North Carolina (can you say Tarheel and Blue Devil Basketball). All these places have good and bad fans that can take it to the limit and beyond. But for some reason, Bama fans are touted as the world's worst. I can tell you from these experiences that I have had that they certainly can be the worst, but they are not alone.
That said, Bama fans should heed your words. Be respectful and proud, but be careful...crow doesn't taste very good.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
12,
I changed a few things about the article. The more and more comments I read I realized that this isn't really just Alabama. It's widespread. Ha.
You are exactly right. I'm not sure how Bama has got the reputation for being bad when we have LSU fans in the same Conference as us. :)
Thanks for the read and the feedback. As always, your opinion really counts.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Christopher Williams 6 months ago
Every school has fans that make the rest of the fan base look like idiots. Every fan base has a stereotype with it.
The fans that bother me the most are the ones who love the team when they are winning but don't want to associate with that team when they are down. Then there are those fans who claim to be the biggest fans ever but have never stepped foot on that university. In the pros it doesnt matter, but college is about pride and I hate those few that make the rest of the fan base look stupid.
Either way, great read.
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Leo Donelon 4 months ago
The SEC would be less than if it did not have both Bama and LSU fans.
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Cameon Shiflett 4 months ago
Leo,
I'll agree with you there. But I can also see how some fans just get obnoxious to the point of being rude. And any team is going to have that...LSU just seems to be the team most known for it with Bama right behind them.
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Trey Jones 6 months ago
Bama fans are great!!!
Bama fans, like all others, run the spectrum... good, bad, and ugly... When you have won as much as Alabama has you expect great things from your team. It's this attitude, and the impact it has on the fans as a whole, that creates an air of confidence that reflects in recruiting, hiring, and team performance. It also makes losing hard. It’s hard enough to make talking about it worse than having a two hour sit-down with your mother-in-law.
Sure, some Bama fans are excuse (and whatever else) makers after losing to Utah... it's only human for some of us to do so. Just about every team that got slapped this year had fans acting weird... even me.
Fans should read this article and take it to heart... but I have a feeling changing human nature will require something more!!!
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Trey,
I agree with you. I've been guilty of all these things I'm sure. I know just the other day in fact an Auburn came into my place of business (Bama Fever) and said "Let's talk about Auburn football." My response? "Ok. This shouldn't take long at all." We all get smug. Actually, that was me being myself, but I digress.
This article wasn't just for others. I had to read it again myself and take my own words to heart.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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John Cate 6 months ago
Cameon,
The Bear would be proud of you. I'm old enough to remember him. For the first eight years of my life, my team never beat his. The day we finally did (in 1982), they were ranked No. 2 in the nation and had just beaten the tar out of the team that would win the national championship that season.
He didn't make excuses. He simply said that the other team (it was Tennessee, in case you don't know who I am a fan of) had played better, deserved to win, and he even said that Johnny Majors had a great game plan and coached better than he did.
When Alabama won a game, which they usually did, he insisted that his players show class. He'd tell a showboater to act like they had won a game before. If they lost a game, he didn't throw his players under the bus.
Until the 1990s, when Alabama had some people in charge who cut corners (which was silly, because Alabama is a great program that doesn't ever need to cheat), they were my second-favorite SEC team and I always rooted for them whenever they weren't playing Tennessee.
Sometimes I think Saban doesn't pick his words well after a loss, but I think he is bringing class and respect back to Alabama's football program. And he's going to bring a lot more victories than the 12 he just delivered, and probably the school's seventh or 13th national title (depending on whose count you use) very soon.
Alabama has always had a lot of great fans. It's a lot of fun to talk football with a knowledgeable fan of a school like Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Penn State and a few others. I hope this article of yours will remind the others to do what Bear said and act like you've won games before.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
John,
I actually changed the quote. I found one that fit even better.
To tell you the truth, I never really understood the 'Bear.' I knew what he stood for of course, and that he won games for Alabama. But, never did I realize the real impact he made on the University until I really researched. It's amazing actually.
I think Saban could have picked better words after losing to Utah. No doubt. Lisa was right in "Destructing Saban" or whatever she did. Haha. Now, I think she was somewhat wrong and out there on some of them but a lot of them showed the guy Saban is. And honestly, he just doesn't really care what the media think.
I personally love this site for the fact that I get to talk to other Alabama fans and other fans from other conferences even, that are just as crazy about football as I am.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Oh,
And feel free to send the Tennessee crowd over here. I don't have many of them on my fan list for some odd reason. Haha.
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Daniel Brown 6 months ago
I think more than Alabama fans need to listen to you. I love the SEC but living in Dallas, Texas makes it hard to get anything other than Big XII news. I gave up trying to get information online from people around the programs (or at least around local news) because most of the posts I read were as you described. It's been a pleasure discovering BR. There are a few articles and comments as you described, but most seem to give a fair evaluation of a team and has helped me keep up with a lack of news coverage.
Finally, I have to agree with John. We should all act like our team has won games before.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Daniel,
I have a very close friend that moved to Texas as an Alabama fan. After every game I am required to send her updates and news coverage and that type of thing because she was having the same problem as you. Ha.
BR is a great place to find sports news. Every once in a while I'll come across a rabid fan but for the most part everyone seems to be pretty cool. Even if they aren't Alabama fans. Haha.
Oh, and I don't think it's just Alabama fans. I think every conference, team, program has these kinds of fans. I'm just a little more biased towards making the Tide better. :)
Thanks for the read and the comment. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Joel Harris 6 months ago
Good read. I was in Tuscaloosa with my family for the game, and while I can't speak for any other Bama fans, I can tell you that my whole family (who are complete nut-job alabama fans, myself included) all said at the end of the game that we got beat by the better team. Utah came out with fire and attitude, and beat the tar out of our boys. They were ready to play. I've always said you don't have to be the best team in the nation, you just have to be the best team on the field that day, and that's exactly what Utah was Friday.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Joel,
What you said brings a lot of truth. Someone else mentioned the loss to LA Monroe. LA Monroe wasn't the better team overall but they were that day by far. It's all in how you come to play.
I'm glad you got to spend some time with your family in Tuscaloosa. Maybe the game wasn't enjoyable but hopefully the beers after were. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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AJ Conyer 6 months ago
good self analysis. You are an intelligent young woman and I applaud you for getting real. It is what it is.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
AJ,
Thanks. Although it wasn't completely a self analysis I am sure I've done these things before. Everyone does.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Bernie 6 months ago
The Bama Chick breaks it down. Another great one. You're on a roll.
January is always a good time for some introspection. Fans are no exception. This is a good read for all fans.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Bernie,
Thanks so much. This is the time of year when I'm grasping at straws as to what to write about. Haha. It just so happens these two hit me back to back. Maybe I should have saved one for later. Ha.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Damon Wildman 6 months ago
Bama lost that game fair and square to a very good Utah team. Would Utah have went undefeated with the Tide's schedule this past season? Who knows. I have my doubts though but on the night that Bama played Utah, Utah was the best team hands down.
Sometimes though the most talented superior team losses to a lesser team. Does anyone remember UL Monroe? Does anyone really think that UL Monroe was a better team than Bama was last season? That day in November they were.
Yes Bama fans should be humble losers and gracious winners when the occasion arises and most are. Lets hope that we can get even better at being gracious winners with experience. I had rather do that than get used to becoming a humble loser. ;)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Damon,
I'm right there with ya. However, you have to lose to win. You have to learn from your wins and get even better. People accuse Saban of not caring, but he does. He sees that you have to learn from every game because nothing is perfect. It never will be.
You are exactly right about wanting to be gracious winners through experience. I think this year caught Tide fans off guard a little honestly. Ha.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Robert Matthews 6 months ago
There are not excuses for the Sugar Bowl. Utah kicked our ass up and down the field for 4 straight quarters.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Robert,
Thanks for the evaluation. Man of few words huh? Ha.
And thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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CrimsonTusks.com 6 months ago
For the record, we didn't do a bad job against Utah's spread, once we adjusted to it.
1. 17 plays, 165yds, 3 td
2. 13 plays, 45yds, 0 td
3. 14 plays, 89yds, 1 td
4. 19 plays, 60yds, 1 fg
1st quarter; 9.7 yards per play.
Rest of the game; 4.2 yards per play.
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Robert Matthews 6 months ago
Not saying we played bad. Im saying they kicked our ass
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Haha. Thanks for clearing that up Robert. I thought that's what you meant.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Nathan B 6 months ago
Cameon,
For what it's worth, you were never one of "those" fans and you're right that every team has them. I've noticed a big difference between online fans and fans I meet in person for most schools. OSU, Michigan and Notre Dame fans (among others, of course) can be unbelievably arrogant online but I lived in Chicago for 18 years and rarely met a ND fan who wasn't intelligent and classy, especially if they had attended the university. The "keyboard jockeys" can give a bad name to a school pretty quickly and usually, the more successful the team (and the more recent the success) is in direct proportion to the number of homers posting for that school.
I really like what you wrote about the idolizing of Saban as well. In Chapel Hill, I feel that I am accurate in saying we did the same with Dean Smith, and it was no more right.
I was really put off by those who blamed the whole thing on Andre Smith ... unless he plays on both sides of the ball, you can only put so much on one guy, no matter what impact he had on the OL.
You were very gracious in this article and reflect well on your school and fan base. Now if only more teams' fans could be like this BEFORE they lose. ;-) It's not quite as brutal in CBB as it is in CFB; I guess football stirs more passions in general.
When I played sports as a kid, my Dad always preached to me the Bear Bryant quote uttered when the youngster went nuts celebrating his first touchdown: "Nice play. Next time, act like you've been there before." (sorry if that's paraphrased)
That could be said for the fans of schools that are winning as well ... lots and lots of schools. =)
Great job.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Nathan,
You are definitely right about the online fans. However, I think sometimes things we would say to a person obviously in a joking manner and then type in that same manner get taken the wrong way. I know I am a very sarcastic person, and sometimes my sarcasm doesn't always come through the keyboard. (I haven't found that key I guess). Haha.
Granted, losing Andre Smith was a big deal. I'm sure it caused a lot of problems mentally with the guys. Not an excuse, but something I could see. However, you are right. Andre doesn't play defense...and they weren't doing a great job either...to say lightly.
Your quote was very paraphrased but that's ok...this time. :) I know my band director says the same thing. He's a huge Alabama fan like myself (which is an advantage) and he makes it clear that we need to act like we have been there before when we win.
I'm glad you liked the article and thanks for the read and comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Nathan B 6 months ago
What was it anyway?
I was always under the impression that the exact quote was "Next time you get in the end zone, act like you've been there before."
While sarcasm can sometimes be tough to translate, I think you do fine (from what I've read). I'm talking more about the obvious stuff -- the guys (and girls) who just say whatever they want because they're basically anonymous on the internet. At least until they threaten to kill someone (okay, that was sarcasm -- sort of ;).
All schools have those kinds of fans ... but a few have them IN DROVES. ;-) Anyway, again, good job. It looks like your article got a very positive response, which means there's still hope. =)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Nathan,
I'd have to check on the exact quote but I'm pretty sure you got it. It's an awesome quote. As most of his are. The guy could make a speech. Haha.
Haha. Ya know...I've often wondered if people that threaten to kill the President or Saban (about as important these days apparently), are every found...now I'm interested. :)
Thanks again. My article did get a positive response. I thought it was funny when GrayGhost wrote one to the same effect and got POTD. Haha. Coincidence? I think it's an issue of all you sexist people. :) No I'm kidding. Ha.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Lisa Horne 6 months ago
You're on a roll! No pun intended. :)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ha. Thanks Lisa.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Ray Bogusz 6 months ago
Good piece.
Personally, I was happy to see 'Bama lose. Not because I hate the tide specifically (although I do have a strong distaste for Mr. Saban) but because the SEC fans more than any other fans seem to think that they are owed major bowl games. Not that you're one of them.
I found myself actively rooting against the SEC for the first time in a while. The message people should take from Utah, and hopefully the message you wanted to convey in this piece, is that it's not where you play, it's how you play.
Underdogs everywhere are proud.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ray,
I personally don't think SEC fans think they are owed a bowl game. Tennessee fans obviously knew they didn't need a bowl game this year. As did Auburn. I think the SEC as a whole is a little misunderstood really. I can why actually.
I'm sorry you were rooting against the SEC. I know in every game the SEC has played in, I've rooted for them. Although, that's how we like to do things down here. Haha.
Utah played a great game. As someone else said, "It may not be about who's the better team, but who's the better team at the time the teams play." Utah was definitely that, and they should be proud of their season.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Trent Armstrong 6 months ago
I was lucky enough to get tix to the game and drove from Dallas, TX on Friday. We had some LSU fans there to enjoy a game and support Nick Saban. I caught them cheering for Bama a few times and they were enthusiastic about rooting for the SEC. Contrary to what we saw recently with our trip to Baton Rouge, I think there are a lot of LSU fans that still respect Saban. That actually makes me proud to be part of the SEC.
Many Big 12 fans I know wouldn't be caught dead pulling for another conference team, especially not someone in their division.
We (SEC Fans) show up to SEC games and treat each other well (a few exceptions for every team), scream our guts out during the game, and then pat each other on the back on the way out of the stadium.
I'm not sure we had enough steam there at the end of the season, but, by-golly, I never would have thought at the start of the season that we would have rushed so feverishly into a BCS bowl game this season. What a great group of players!
Thanks for your insights and transparency, Cam!
Trent
Alabama Football Season Ticket Holder
Dallas, TX
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D Davis 6 months ago
Cam,
Being a Utah fan at the Sugar Bowl, I found the Bama fans quite engaging & polite. However, some of what you say certainly rang true. Some comments, I'm sure were genuinely meant to be friendly, but they did come off to be condescending.
"Welcome, Glad you're here!" - great, thanks! - I knew the Tide had been there 13 times, so it was essentially their home game, so they had a right to "welcome" us.
"I sure hope it's a close game!" - condescending. But there's no way it will be.
"I hope we win by only 2 points." - condescending. But I don't expect it at all.
"What is a Ute, anyway?" - condescending. Out of respect, use Wiki or Google to do a little research on the team/school you're facing if you don't know much about them (the proud Native Americans of the Colorado Plateau, btw - where the state of Utah derived it's name from).
This was the second BCS bowl (and 2nd undefeated season) for Utah in 5 years - from a conference *without* an automatic bid, and the longest bowl winning streak in the nation (8 straight years). Not the storied, long-time tradition that is Alabama but we do have a better recent history that should have been shown a little more respect coming into the game.
Thank you for acknowledging that Utah was indeed the better team... and I agree... for this year. Any other time, who knows? Time will tell. Hopefully, we'll get a chance to find out more regularly in the future.
Anyway, that's the way I saw it. Polite, friendly, welcoming, well-meaning - - but a lot of implied disrespect.
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SportMonk 5 months ago
OK, I understand the frustration you might feel about no one knowing what a "Ute" is. I'll admit, when I was watching this game, I wiki-ed it to find out because I honestly hadn't really cared before. The fact of the matter is, people don't always consider whether or not they know what the opposing team's mascot is. However, when they're at a game like this and the thought crosses their mind that they don't have a clue what a "Ute" is, they ask the people they know will know: Utah fans. It isn't condescending. The definition of a "Ute" is only clear to the actual Native American people and Utah fans, but no one else. I wouldn't be offended if you asked me what a Cornhusker is (though it's a tad self-explanatory), and I'm sure Cameon wouldn't be offended if you asked where the name Crimson Tide came from. That's a very small thing to take offense at, in my own opinion.
And there's no such thing as implied disrespect. You can't rag on people from the South until you've truly met them. There are no nicer people in the world. But it came down to them being fans of the other team. Sure, they were nice and polite, but if you honestly thought they would be okay with Utah beating their team, there's something wrong with you. You can't take the love out of the fan, just like you can't be offended that they love their team. In your comments, I'm sure you portrayed the same "connotation." That's sports. Deal with it.
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Trent Armstrong 6 months ago
Cam,
I was lucky enough to get tix to the game and drove from Dallas, TX on Friday. We had some LSU fans there to enjoy a game and support Nick Saban. I caught them cheering for Bama a few times and they were enthusiastic about rooting for the SEC. Contrary to what we saw recently with our trip to Baton Rouge, I think there are a lot of LSU fans that still respect Saban. That actually makes me proud to be part of the SEC.
Many Big 12 fans I know wouldn't be caught dead pulling for another conference team, especially not someone in their division.
We (SEC Fans) show up to SEC games and treat each other well (a few exceptions for every team), scream our guts out during the game, and then pat each other on the back on the way out of the stadium.
I'm not sure we had enough steam there at the end of the season, but, by-golly, I never would have thought at the start of the season that we would have rushed so feverishly into a BCS bowl game this season. What a great group of players!
Thanks for your insights and transparency, Cam!
Trent
Alabama Football Season Ticket Holder
Dallas, TX
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Trent,
You got exactly what I was trying to say in the article. :) I remember after the LSU game last year and even the one this year, Saban had players from LSU coming up and giving him hugs. The guy was respected down there. For those that do, they have a lot of sense in them and a good head on their shoulders. For the others, maybe they'll get over it eventually. Ha.
SEC fans are some of the best out there. Granted, they are some of the most in your face. However, I think that arrogance is really pride and passion for their team. That's what it's all about. At least to me. If you can't be prideful of the team you support then something is wrong.
I know at the Florida game at the Dome, Florida fans (for the most part) were very realistic after the game. One of them started a chant "Its great to be a Florida Gator" and I promptly came in and started with "Its great to be from Alabama." haha. He simply turned around and said "Its great you have pride in your team. You guys really played a great game, and I think had some things gone your way you could have pulled it out." It's being realistic. I was shocked actually. However, there were the obnoxious fans...undoubtedly proud of their team. Which is understandable.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Arreola 6 months ago
Alabama was one of the most racist programs in the United States for the longest time.
So they most certainly CAN DO WRONG.
Alabama choked in the two biggest games of the year.
Hardly top 5 team in the nation.
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mindi green 6 months ago
according to your bio you like to write and "be the voice of reason"---hope you learn to spell better...Most programs "back in the day" were considered racist but it was called segregation.
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David Arreola 6 months ago
Mindi, thanks for taking interest.
spell better? According to my menial education my comment had no errors. But feel free to correct it.
You are wrong. SEC teams were the only programs considered to be racist. Alabama was the LAST SEC team to play an integrated school and the LAST SEC team to recruit a black player.
I know of the racism of Alabama's dark days. It isn't there anymore. But, it was there....and very much alive.
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David Brantley 6 months ago
"one of the most racist programs"
Yet the bear was one of the first to play and recruit black players, even when the governor told him not to do it.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
David,
Even though David (that's going to get confusing) already made this point I'll add another.
You, my friend, are probably one of the people that look down on Alabama fans because they look into the past. However, at the same time, you are talking about things that happened over 40 years ago. How, exactly, does racism play into this is what I'm wondering?
Bama can do wrong. Segregation was bad. However, it was also widely spread at the time you were talking about. It was everywhere. Especially in the South. Read your history books. SEC stands for Southeastern Conference. Slavery was mainly a problem in the South. Martin Luther King Jr. ring any bells? How about Rosa Parks? I'm just curious.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Arreola 6 months ago
I never said anything about Bryant being racist. He was only interested in playing football players.
You are right, the SEC as a whole was racist. But Alabama was one of the few schools that refused to play integrated schools.
I don't look down on Bama fans. However, my opinion of the program is slightly less than others.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
David,
Let me get this straight...your opinion of the program is based on something that happened over 40 years ago that was the norm? NOT to mention, as David Brantley pointed out, The Bear was one of the FIRST to play black players. You yourself said he didn't care. He cared about playing football players. You are contradicting yourself.
Seems like you might be losing steam on this one. Try another reason to hate the program. The one that's most popular right now is because Saban is the coach. COme up with some excuses for that one, and I'll prove those wrong as well. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Arreola 6 months ago
I love Bryant, but the people around him (i.e. presidents and directors) were shameful.
I commend him for breaking the segregation in the SEC....albeit a little late.
I am not "losing steam" as you called it.
Just saying I agreed with you that Alabama CAN do wrong.
Also, I do have a reason to hate your program. I'm a Florida Gators fan ;)
Enough said.
Nice article "Bama Chick"
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Uh hum...President and Directors were doing what other schools around them were doing David. Bryant did what he thought was best. I would think having the courage to do something like that when other schools hadn't done that yet would be somewhat respectful...maybe not.
I did say Bama can do wrong. Granted, I wasn't talking about racism...but if that's the way you took it, well it's America. And, for right now anyway, free speech is a right. :)
I guess hating the team that actually put up a fight against you would be a reason to hate us. :)
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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mindi green 6 months ago
No Dahlin, I'm talking about all the errors in your bio
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David Arreola 6 months ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Dahlin?
Amusing, but not.
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David Arreola 6 months ago
I was only making the point of Alabama's history....I really wasn't trying to do more than that.
Sorry you took it that way. I was just sayin....
Ahh yes the SEC Championship...it's Alabama couldn't put up half the fight against Utah....
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
David,
Your not sorry for the way it came across because you meant it to come across that way. Which is fine. I respect what you were trying to say. But, as you said, "It's Alabama's history." Before the Bear even. :) Well, I guess it included the Bear but you know what I mean. Haha.
And I don't think Mindi was trying to disrespect you with the "dahlin" comment, so let's not be disrespecting others. We like to respect each other on B/R.
You make a good point about the Utah game. I'm not even going to argue on that one. Ha.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Brantley 6 months ago
Seems like you stirred up the pot David, and now you are backing off by bringing up Utah.
If you insist on blaming Alabama for being racist 40 years ago, then why not listen to what people have to say about it who were there.
Like Croom, he has been very forthcoming about his career at Alabama and how Bryant never made him feel out of place, yet other programs at the time, would call him "boy" and not even consider his application.
Now in response to this I know what you are going to say, your going to bring up how Croom was passed over for the bama job and it must be because he is black. That makes absolutely no sense because Moore and Croom are very good friends who worked together under Bryant, so to even insist that would be asinine.
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mindi green 6 months ago
David I wasn't trying to be amusing with the "Dahlin" comment, it's just how I say it so that's how I spell it...however as a humorist writer I AM pretty amusing!!
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David Arreola 6 months ago
Alright.
Let's just agree to disagree as I don't see this "argument" progressing much further.
Funny thing is, I have a friend who is a Bama fan and me and her have had this same argument a thousand times. I don't know why, I simply can't seem to forget Alabama's history. I guess it pays to be ignorant in some regards as I know very little about Florida's involvement in the segregation.
I would imagine it was quite similar to Alabama's. However, if it was, why doesn't it get the same attention Alabama did? I believe there is some sort of "double-standard/civil rights connection" hidden in there.
So, you are wrong. I was not trying to offend anyone.
I will actually read up on Florida and their role in the SEC's segregation.
So once again, great article. Finely written.
P.S. Mindi- whatever, I really do not care....lol
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Hey David,
I wasn't argueing with you. Just trying to see your point and show mine at the same time. :) We can disagree can't we? Haha.
I think you are right. Florida probably didn't get the same attention because a lot of the slavery happenings took place in Alabama. I mean, think about it. You had Rosa Parks, the church blown up here, several marches, and overall several happenings with Martin Luther King Jr. himself.
I know you weren't trying to offend anyone and I don't think you did. You brought up an issue that is definitely not something that is talked about with Alabama fans a lot...which kinda makes me curious as to why not?
David was trying to provide you with facts as to why we aren't as bad as you think. We're Tide fans afterall, and we're going to defend our University. :)
Thanks again for the read. Let me know what you found out about Florida's role. In fact, I think I will look into it as well. :) Be ready for the debate. Haha.
Roll Tide,
Bama Chick
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mindi green 6 months ago
Cameon, great article!! I am woman enough and hopefully have class to admit that crow pie tastes like crap!! HAHA I love the Tide but you are right---we were beat by a better team and hey congrats to them----but I add a warning here, leave me in peace to finish eating my pie and don't try to shove it down my throat cause I WILL shove back!! That being said my Daddy always told me If you don't learn to win with class how will you act when you lose?
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Mindi,
That quote is actually from the Bear. Or, he was one of the ones to say it anyway. I don't know about Utah being the better team. I honestly don't. However, as Justin said, it's really all about the team that is better that night. That's what determines the "W" or "L" at the end of the game. 1/2 definitely showed that Utah was the better team.
I'm glad you liked the article.
Roll Tide,
Bama Chick
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mindi green 6 months ago
Cameon, I asked my Daddy about the saying and he said he couldn't remember where he had heard it but he just always liked it and that acting that way said alot about a person so you may be right about him hearing it from Bear---Thanks
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Carson Howell 6 months ago
Nice article!
Girls(besides Lisa Horn, who's really a do-it-all machine woman) really can write!
Your only 17....Dang
When are you singing happy birthday? lol jk!
POTD
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Carson,
You are a funny guy. :) Thanks! My bio on B/R talks about generalities dealing with the fact that I'm female and my age. I'm sure you read that though, since you know I'm 17. Ha.
Cool fact...my birthday is October 31st, 1991 (Halloween). Nick Saban's is October 31, 1951. We are exactly 40 years apart. Cool huh? Haha. Not many people can say that...
Glad you liked the article and I helped you to realize that girls can write as well.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Brantley 6 months ago
Excellent, a few problems with redundancy, that seems to be a theme with your writing, but hey, if you keep writing like that then they will call you the next steinbeck, he had the same problem, anywho, good article, although I disagree with a certain point you made.
I for one, officially declare a new church open for business, The Church of Bear is God and Saban is Christ, we take donations by credit card.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
David,
First of all, I'm a lot better looking than Steinbeck. :)
Secondly, I'm interested in which point you disagree with...unless the "Church of Bear is God and Saban is Christ" comment was supposed to illustrate that. :)
Thirdly, don't be scamming my readers. Haha.
Thanks for the read and the comment. I know I can always count on you to be honest.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Larry Smith 6 months ago
You know the funny thing about Alabama fans?
For the last five years in Montgomery, you wouldn't see a single Bama sticker on a car or any Bama t-shirts. Nothing but Auburn gear.
Then, all of the sudden this season, there's crimson stuff everywhere.
Hmm...
(This is coming from someone who doesn't support Auburn either, by the way. I don't mind Bama or Auburn. At least they're not LSU fans.)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Larry,
I can't speak for Montgomery, but I know in Birmingham I haven't seen that much more Crimson. I know I have seen a hell of a lot more houndstooth but that's apparently because "It's the new in thing." (Could have knocked me over with a feather).
I take offense actually. But, I'll provide some facts instead. I work at Bama Fever. We haven't done that much better this year than previous years. Sure, on certain days we've done better, but even after the loss to UL Monroe last year, we still had a great day. After the loss to Florida this year, we were still busy.
So, without giving you specific numbers because that's really none of your business (no offense), let me assure you, Bama fans are always here. No matter what happens. Granted, there will be "closet" bama fans just like every other team has. I wrote a whole article on them.
Who do you support Larry?
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Brantley 6 months ago
by the way I will comment on your last article tomorrow
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
This is technically my last article. But I know what you're talking about. :)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
And technically, right now is tomorrow. :) Haha.
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David Brantley 6 months ago
smartass
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Very much so. :) It's one of those qualities that makes me me. You'll get used to it.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Daniel Howie 6 months ago
I have the utmost respect for Bama fans. Granted, the way some of them count their national championships is a little crazy, but I love the tradition and class of that program. Their colors are great too. :)
I can definitely identify with the confident fan base of an accomplished program. Oklahoma is used to winning. When we go to a game, we don't usually think, "Oh, we might lose this one", especially not in Norman. Bowls have been different lately...
Great write-up. I felt some fire from the words of Bama Chick.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Daniel,
I am glad you have respect for the Tide fans. :) The National Championship counting is a matter of opinion and we'll have to save that for another time. Haha.
Ha. Alabama does that. However, Alabama gets the big head. And, suddenly, forgets they are playing football.
Sorry about the fire. I'll include a complimentary fire extinguisher with a read of my next articles. Haha. Glad you like it though. And thanks for the read and comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Daniel Howie 6 months ago
Nah I like the fire. It shows that you're passionate about improving the Bama fan base.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Daniel,
I'm glad you like the fire. Apparently, its intimidating to some. Haha.
You are exactly right. Except I'm not just passionate about the fan base...but Alabama in general. Haha.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Ravenous Ute 6 months ago
Great article Cameron,
If I could humbly add just one more caveat..
Don't make presumptions, especially baseless ones... That only leads to making you look foolish.
I for one haven't seen every Alabama game, (locale and all of that...) Sadly, I don't even get to see all my Baltimore Ravens games, currently residing in Utah... However, I would guess I have seen more 'Bama games than 'Bama fans have seen Utah games given the national media.
So I can't say what teams are comparable to Bama that Utah had played previous to the Sugar Bowl and if have an opinion, I'll phrase it as just that... (even thought chat acronyms in posts are a pet peeve of mine, IMHO has to be the best acronym around).
Seeing statements like "Utah has never faced a D as good as 'Bama! We will stomp you!" begs the question, "And you know this from watching every Utah game?"
True only 'Bama's D is "as good as 'Bama", but we did face the 2nd best defense in the country in TCU.
Even worse are statements like "Miss St. (the worst team in the SEC West) would go unbeaten with Utah's schedule." tends to leak like a sieve when Wyoming from the MWC beats Tennessee at Tennessee.
The older I get the less I "know"... So, please, if you don't "know" it shows more class to admit you are uninformed. The alternative is to make yourself and by extension your fellow fans look like fools with idiotic ramblings.
All this of course is just my humble perspective of what, in addition to all your fine points, makes fans appear classless.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ravenous,
I will agree with you. Now, I know that some of them (the fans) looked at statistics and then said that about the defense, but I know they all didn't.
I'll be honest...I didn't even know Utah had a football team until this game. I had no clue what a 'Ute' was. Instead of making dumb comments about it, I looked Utah up and where Ute came from. (Indian tribe thing is very cool by the way). I then watched what I could of Utah's games. After seeing that, I realized that the game might be a little harder than expected.
You are definitely right though...it's much like when people say "Alabama fans are classless and sore losers." That is the worst statement. It's a generalization. And, I'm big against generalizations anyway. You haven't possibly met every Alabama fan, so you can't say that.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Mary Jo Buchanan 6 months ago
Good read Cameon - well written - what you say can apply to the "greater" sport fandom.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Mary Jo,
Thanks for the read and the comment. I thought it could be spread out as well which is why I tried to post to new people about me writing it. :) Glad you enjoyed it.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Anthony Elias 6 months ago
losing tastes straight up nasty...
we must take it like men.
cuz the Lord knows we take wins like anything but...
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Well, technically, if I took it like a man there would be a problem. :) Just sayin'. Haha.
But you are definitely right about the happenings of losing tasting nasty. Especially when it happens six years in a row. That's just a foul taste. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Larry Burton 6 months ago
I had to eat more crow than maybe anyone,,, I didn't think they had a good chance... but I think I was respectful in my post game comments, I ate my crow and offered no excuses. They just whipped our ass.
We have our share of arrogant fans, obnoxious fans and downright rude fans just like anyone... But we have MORE great fans I think....
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Larry,
I definitely agree with you. And I really think the arrogant fans don't realize they are being arrogant. There's just a fine line between arrogance and pride and it's easy to cross. I know I've crossed it several times.
Thanks for the read and the feedback.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Justin Goar 6 months ago
great read cameon, it takes great perspective to step back at look at one's self or fanbase.
unfortuantely for bama fans, their loudest fans are sometimes their most notable fans. trust me, as an LSU fan i know. in fact, my jaw is still stinging from the cheap shots at LSU fans i read in this comments section.
it's cool, i'm used to it. i'm well aware there are some bad LSU fans out there and that if someone comes to Baton Rouge and has 99 pleasant experiences and one bad one then the bad one will stand out. i'm aware of the reputation.
i'm also one of the majority of good LSU fans that is actively seeking to change our perceived image. it's a hard thing to do because a little bad can wipe out a lot of good. but you know what makes a difference??
fans like you with a voice to make the change. in your own way, you're being loud but in a good way. does that make sense?
what i mean is the ones who make the most noise are usually the ones noticed and usually for bad reasons but this article is you making noise in a good way so keep it up!!
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Hey Justin,
I definitely understand what you were trying to say. I know when I went to the LSU game everyone was OK...mostly. Now, there was some friendly picking on each other...which is understandable...I mean, after all, it is a football game. Christopher asked me how I liked being in the Byu and I told him "Everyone was great except for those few that always seem to ruin it."
There's a difference in pride and arrogance. And I really do think there is a fine line. I know I have crossed the arrogant line a few times. Honestly, the games against LSU and Auburn being one of them. But, looking back, I realize the win against LSU wasn't that great besides the fact that we pulled through. The Iron Bowl, well, that one was just great. Haha.
I'm definitely loud in teh stands. Loud in person actually. I like it to be a "good loud" though.
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to read and comment. Your little girl is too cute!
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Isaac Luber 6 months ago
I wasn't making excuses in Gray's article. I was saying that we got pounded in one quarter and were unable to come back. That whole game was either head to head or dominated by us, except for the second quarter, where we fell apart and made a lot of mistakes and turnovers so instead of it being 17-7 or 21-14 at half, it was 31-7 at half. I mean, our running back got hurt but so did theirs so I won't make excuses. I just said it how I saw it. The second quarter (I was at the game) was a blur. It was 7-7 and very competitive and then all I saw was a bunch of yellow flags and USC taking advantage of our mistakes, and all of a sudden it was 31-7. We dominated the second half, but we were already in too much of a whole.
Bama got killed in the first quarter, came back in the second, but couldn't get anything going in the second half. Props to Utah. They deserve the NC, and anyone who doesn't agree should give me one good reason why.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
I'll give you one good reason why Isaac...Florida is an overall better team than Utah. And yes I know that people will say "Well, Alabama got closer to beating Florida than they did Utah." However, that's not even a valid argument. The Tide was not there 1/2/09. Simple as that.
There are several factors that factor into it, but I honestly think Florida has had a tougher schedule. Nothing to do with SEC. Nothing to do with conferences. Simply a matter of the opponents faced.
I'm not saying Utah doesn't deserve to be up there higher than they are...but National Championship? I dunno about that. They played a great game against Alabama though.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Cameon, shut up already. You are not the voice of Alabama football and your ideas about 'Bama fans are simplistic and guided by feelings of inferiority.
Bill Clinton to Monica Lewinsky is as Nick Saban is to God? Do you do any type of drugs, Cameon? Perhaps you were toking on some of that Shades Valley ganja all the little rich girls smoke when you came up with the bright idea to write this article?
I know that because you are a woman and you like football that many of the people on this board do not properly critique your work. But, I could care less if you are only 17 and "just learning" to properly put your thoughts into the written word.
It doesn't make sense, nothing in your post makes sense. Who do you know that worships Nick Saban as a God? You strike me as the type of person that has no bedrock and is easily swayed by the opinions of people who have irrational ideas about Alabama.
Ohhh, 10,000 hard fighting AuNeck soldiers online ridicule Alabama and her fans. Big deal. That has been going on since Gore invented the Internet and it isn't going to change. So what, Tennessee fans all call us cheaters and say we have no class because we got caught cheating. Ohhhh, you must appease them and supplicate yourself at their corn infested feet in order to have them change their opinion of us.
I have met people like you and they are shallow and have no substance. Your bug eyed appeal to Alabama fans to shut up is uncalled for and frankly, just stupid.
I really don't get it. What made you write the article? Did you feel that some Alabama fans somewhere, you never indicated which fans you were so freaked out by, were embarrassing you and you were going to proactively set the record straight? Maybe you wanted to appear as if you were a wise and above the fray type of fan who judges the merit of other Alabama fans based on their feelings and whether or not you consider those feelings worthy?
I notice in your bio that you rattle on about actually having clothes and shoes to wear and you are not like the typical 'Bama fan. Ashamed of most of your brethren are you? Feel embarrassed when "intelligentsia" from other fanbases bash Alabama with 100 year old stereotypes? You don't think the average 'Bama fan is intelligent or educated so you apologize for their actions before they even say anything, correct?
Maybe it is all about appearances for you?
I have an idea, grow up. Live and let live. Smack talk, insults, ridicule, and shaming of 'Bama fans has been going on since before you were hatched and will continue after your fingers are too shriveled up with arthritis to contribute to BR any longer.
Don't allow the smug, arrogant, better than thou opinions of our rivals influence the way you feel about your fellow fans. Contemptuous and pompous fans of rivals are something you are going to have to deal with as an Alabama fan. Don't let them turn you against 'Bama with their constant and never ending drivel and pretentiousness concerning Alabama fans. If you soak up everything they say about us, soon enough, you will start to believe it all, as you apparently already have.
As I hope you understand, Alabama fans are just like all other fans. We have weathered many years of hard times and did it under extreme duress from the attacks of malicious and ill-tempered fans of so many fanbases it is hard to keep up with them. We know we aren't any better than anyone else, we are just people who like football.
What many Alabama fans want is to just be treated fairly and not have everyone being overly critical of us because we used to be a good team. We want to win and we want to lose with dignity and not have our fanbase absolutely decimated by evil little miscreants who have nothing better to do than defame and harass 'Bama fans.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
Maybe you missed the whole point of this article. First of all, this article was posted in the Humor column of this website, meaning I wasn't being serious. First detail you missed. Secondly, I never said I was the voice of Alabama Football. Nor will I ever be. Second this you assumed. Third, I'm not on drugs. And neither are the "ganga rich girls at Shades Valley."
Your little comment about that is actually what prompted me to write that in my bio. Your GENERALIZATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS WERE WRONG! Which is why, you don't make them. Because most of the time, they are wrong. I'm 17, but most people don't even realize that until they read my bio. Which they usually do after reading my article. So you can cut the crap on that one. No go. The other generalization I was referring to in my bio was the one about having shoes and an IQ higher than a stalk of corn because some people in the North (which I found out during my trip to Chicago and NY) still think we have no shoes and have no IQ. Again, you missed the details and apparently read what you wanted to. Which was wrong.
You don't know me. You don't have any clue about my personality or the kind of person that I am. If you'll look at all of my previous comments and even my previous articles you'll see this has always been a big thing with me. I'm not of those people that "has no bedrock and is easily swayed by the opinions of people who have irrational ideas about Alabama." You'd be hard pressed to find anyone that KNOWS me that thinks of me that way. And the same goes for the shallow comment. You, have no knowledge of the kind of person that I am. Maybe if you did your homework I'd be a little more impressed, but I can almost guarantee you haven't even read my other articles. Again, making assumptions when you don't know anything about what you are talking about.
Your last two paragraphs of your comment are exactly what I was talking about in the article. Like I said, if you had taken it for what it was, and not gotten up on your high horse you might have realized that. But, since you are so used to people coming down on Bama and it's fans, you came down my throat. Yeah, I LOVE Alabama. If you had even gotten through the first couple of lines and bold print you would have known that. "I see Alabama fans as being some of the nicest and most classy people out there. Granted, I am slightly biased. However, maybe it's because I'm right in the thick of it. Maybe it's because I don't see what others see. So, I took a step back...and saw what everyone was talking about." That's from the article...maybe you should read it again.
Then, at the end, I posted this... "I understand being a huge fan. I, myself, am addicted to Alabama Football. However, there is a way to do everything with some class guys. I love Alabama Football more than anything. I love the fans that I am lucky enough to get to surround myself with. I just wonder why people don't see us the way we see each other."
THE WHOLE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT THAT ONE PARAGRAPH! But, it wasn't in bold words, so I don't expect you to read it. Although it would be nice...and save me time.
Maybe this cleared things up for you. Maybe not. Don't judge me, or my writing, before you do your homework. It'll do you some good, and it'll save me time. After all, I could be shopping right now for my drugs with all that money I have.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Arreola 6 months ago
As I was scrolling to the bottom of the page to type a new comment, I noticed these ESSAYS that were written at the bottom of the page.
Honestly- Ctrl-Alt-Dlt, you are a class A jackass.
Step back for ONE minute and realize what you just wrote. That was one of the most condescending and repulsive things I have ever read.
And I am not just talking about the drug reference, that you for sure did not take seriously.
Listen man, Keep that shit off B/R as it is retarded and childish. Opinions are one thing, attacks are another.
For your sake I would hope that you are younger than 17. Because a 17 year old acted FAR more mature than you in the comments.
It is adults like you that make me feel good about where I am headed and who I am.
"Shallow and have no substance"
Take a look in the mirror- your in danger of becoming what you hate.
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mindi green 6 months ago
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I agree with David!! I hope you are at least 17 or younger!! That was the dumbest piece of crap I've read and wasted my time doing!! If you had ever read any of Cameons work before you would know that she was being funny!! HELLOOOOOO it was in the HUMOR section!!!!! If you can't do any better than that stay off B/R---we do disagree with each other on here but still try to be respectful!! It's called "home-training"
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Well, David, when a writer starts talking about Bill Clinton being to Monica Lewinsky what Nick Saban is to God, yeah, there could be some herb involved. Maybe some liquor of some sort?
I mean, damn, that is just goofy. Then she rambles off about how Nick Saban is not God and neither is "Bear." What Cameon has done is take one of the main bashing points of Alabama's rivals and applied it to Alabama fans herself.
Disregard the fact that she states in one of her responses that she had to read up on Coach Bryant to know anything about him at all.
I wonder where she read about Coach Bryant being God to Alabama fans? Yes, we liked him, even loved him, but did 'Bama fans really worship him as a deity or is that just mean spirited propaganda type chatter that has been thrown at 'Bama fans for over two decades now? He has been used as a weapon against us and many younger 'Bama fans are ashamed of his memory and cringe when they hear his name mentioned. They feel if they rag him, it will endear them to their friends who support other teams.
Maybe she needs to take a step back again, you know, step back and see what her article seems like to other 'Bama fans. Instead of taking that step back so she can see what others see in Alabama fans, perhaps she needs to figure out what in the hell she is trying to say.
Wait until an editor gets ahold of her, he won't be as nice as I have been. That is almost guaranteed.
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mindi green 6 months ago
Again, IT WAS IN THE HUMOR SECTION!!!!!!!!!!
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
Again, reading what you would like. Man, let me get ready to type yet another essay.
The Bill Clinton thing AGAIN was, as you said, GOOFY! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE! It even said in the article "(ok, maybe thats not the best analogy)." READ THE ARTICLE!
I'll try and say this calmly...the point of the article is to point out why people don't like Alabama fans. It's not to criticize Alabama fans. It's to show some of the rediculous things that are put upon us.
I knew about Coach Bryant. I'm not stupid contrary to what you seem to think. I meant, I knew what kind of a Coach he was. I was more interested in him though...so I did some research. I DID MY HOMEWORK BEFORE POSTING SOMETHING! I'm sorry, I know this might be a foreign thing to you...but it's what we like to do here on B/R.
"Many younger Bama fans..." Are you really that offended by my age? Really? My age has NOTHING to do with this. In fact, this is one of the main reasons I started to not post my age on this site. The point of that statement was to again, make aware how ridiculous the statement is that we think The Bear is a God. Where is your head? Maybe I'm not the one on drugs.
"He has been used as a weapon against us and many younger 'Bama fans are ashamed of his memory and cringe when they hear his name mentioned. They feel if they rag him, it will endear them to their friends who support other teams." Anyone on here that has read ANYTHING I've posted knows how big of an Alabama fan I am. If you knew me at all (which you don't), you would know that I really don't give a crap what other people think.
I actually take offense to this comment. You have absolutely NO reason to post this nonsense on this site. I'm all for disagreeing or saying "I don't get it...explain," but your troll comment was just that. And, it's funny because you are one of the ones trying to ward against those.
You are definitely right. I'll take a step back...look what I found! The other Bama fans on this site such as 12 posted this... "Great analysis of the Bama fan Cam. We can all learn from your wise words. I have had the pleasure of living in several parts of this great nation, and I can tell you there are no better fans than Alabama fans, and no worse fans than some Alabama fans.
I've lived in Florida ( Florida, Florida State, and Miami fans are all as passionate as we are), I've lived in Virginia (Va. Tech fans are some crazy people too), and I've lived in Mississippi (Ole Miss fans can keep up with the best of them, along with Miss. St.), Kansas City(Missouri fans are also very passionate, along with Kansas Basketball), and North Carolina (can you say Tarheel and Blue Devil Basketball). All these places have good and bad fans that can take it to the limit and beyond. But for some reason, Bama fans are touted as the world's worst. I can tell you from these experiences that I have had that they certainly can be the worst, but they are not alone.
That said, Bama fans should heed your words. Be respectful and proud, but be careful...crow doesn't taste very good. "Cameon, great article!! I am woman enough and hopefully have class to admit that crow pie tastes like crap!! HAHA I love the Tide but you are right---we were beat by a better team and hey congrats to them----but I add a warning here, leave me in peace to finish eating my pie and don't try to shove it down my throat cause I WILL shove back!! That being said my Daddy always told me If you don't learn to win with class how will you act when you lose?"
Plus, there are a lot of comments from other fanbases as well. Maybe you should step back and realize that you took the article the wrong way.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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David Arreola 6 months ago
I see your point.
Are you hinting that she is disowning her own fellow Alabama fans?
Not at all, she is merely pointing out OBVIOUS flaws. Not just in Bama fans, BUT ALL College football fans. I live in Gainesville, it is just as bad as Alabama. Some Gator fans make me sick with the kind of stuff they say about the University of Florida.
And since we are taking things literal right now, Tim Tebow really is Superman and he actually travels at the speed of light and shoots lasers out of his eyes.
Come on man, lighten up.
You know what the best part about this article is?
That is bleeds honesty and opinion. That she spoke her mind, not giving a SHIT what you or anyone else thought about it.
I'll take that any day over the same passionless articles that plague this site.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Mindi and David,
Thank you guys for your support. That means a lot. But, this is just a case of someone reading something the wrong way, realizing it, and being afraid to admit it.
David,
I always wondered why Tebow was so sweaty. I knew it wasn't from playing Football. It was because he shoots fire from his eyes. A regular Clark Kent... :)
Thank you for your compliment. What you said means a lot and I really do appreciate it. I've taken my cues from some of the best writers on this site. I'm just fortunate I was welcomed with open arms and given the chance to prove myself. (At least by most).
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Cameon, let's talk about a couple of things in a rational manner. Sorry if I seemed overly critical of you, perhaps that was not called for.
Here are one of your statements:
"However, maybe it's because I'm right in the thick of it. Maybe it's because I don't see what others see. So, I took a step back...and saw what everyone was talking about."
Can I ask you what you saw in your vision? What exactly did you behold and recognize about us dumb 'ole 'Bammers that other 'Bama fans just can't quite acknowledge?
I think I may know what you felt you had discovered; this is also from you:
"Ladies and Gents, let me tell you. Bama can do wrong. Take a look at the last couple of years before Saban got here. Actually, take a look at this past year. You don't have to look very far. I understand the mentality of supporting your team. Believe me I do. However, understand that your team can do wrong."
Again, can I inquire as to which 'Bama fans you believe to be totally unhinged from reality? Which 'Bama fans do not understand that Alabama can lose, that we can do wrong? Which group of Alabama fans have you been observing?
Was this an online observation or just an observation you and the Auburn fans who are your bestest buds came up with? Maybe you see these types of 'Bama fans at games? I don't know, really, so I am just asking. Where are these folks? Have you just read about them your whole life from national sources, like Chicago and NY sportswriters? Maybe you have formed this opinion of crazy Bammers from local beat writers of rival teams? Do you have first hand knowledge of these people that you were telling to shut up?
Lastly, you typed this:
"But, since you are so used to people coming down on Bama and it's fans, you came down my throat."
I absolutely did not do this.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
First off, you passed rational a long time ago. Except you didn't collect $200 because no one believed a word of the crap you posted.
Where are you getting the fact that I called Alabama fans "dumb ole bammers?" Never once did I say that! In fact, SEVERAL times throughout the article I commented on how much I love Alabama and the fans that are around the University. I didn't even say that Ctrl.
Again, I will say this...MAYBE, this time it will hit home...this article is about some of the irrational things people believe about Alabama fans. Things that we know aren't true. You should know irrational judging from the comments you have posted.
"You and your Auburn friends." WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?! Are you really that naive? Actually, I do have Auburn friends...but they have no effect in what I was posting.
Again, and this is the last time I'm going to say this...the article was about the unrealistic things that are put upon Alabama fans...that was the whole point of the article.
You give me no credit and have offended me. I actually just realized that you were the one trying to tell me about Mitch and I told you I could handle people telling me off myself. Well, Ctrl, I CAN!
Maybe you should "Ctrl-Alt-Del" yourself right off of making comments before you get the article and take a step back and realize that maybe what you read the first time was taken in the wrong context. I knew this was going to happen eventually.
Roll Tide,
Bama Chick
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Oh and one more thing,
Before you get on your pedastool, read the other comments. Maybe you'll realize that, while I was writing this in the intention to show some of the ridiculous things that happen...but come to find out, they weren't so ridiculous because fans admitted to doing them.
Just something to think about.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Jim Bob Kern 6 months ago
Well Cameon, I see you got the pot stirred up again girl.. lol.
I loved the humor in the article.. you forgot one of the biggest excuses I hear around here.. " Well, we play on Saturday's, not Friday.. we just wasn't ready.. lmao. just j/king.
The sun did come up Saturday morning and it still hurt. But that's just a sharp dose of reality. I didn't give Utah any credit or any chance to win that game. Even when we came back in the 3rd they still had our asses beat. No excuses. We got beat. I think Utah earned their respect the old fashioned way. They earned it on the field. Congrads to them.
I sure never expected this Bama team to end up 12-2 this year. What a turn around in Saban's 2nd season. The only real ragging I hear down here is from the Aubs.. lol.. The more they rag the more 36-0 comes to mind!!!
You keep writing Bama Chick and let them pick at ya. You are too good to stoop to the low road. Keep you head up and fingers on the keys.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Jim Bob,
I have a tendency of doing that...but I learned from the best. :)
It took me a minute to catch your joke...then the lightbulb turned on. Haha. And, then I proceeded to laugh...hysterically.
I'm glad you caught the humor in the article...as most everyone did. :)
Saturday morning did hurt...but as a buddy of mine said...thinking about the Iron Bowl win made it a little better. Although not much. Utah did a great job in that game. Definitely an ingredient to some humble pie I know some Tide fans had not planned to cook. Ha.
September 5, 2009. BE THERE! Actually, more importantly, A-DAY CELEBRATION! BE THERE FIRST! Haha.
Thanks for the compliment and the read. It's nice to know that some people enjoy reading what I write. In my opinion, 1 out of 80 something comments isn't too bad. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
P.S. Please let me know when you get something up. :)
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Calm down, Cameon, everything is going to be okay. I have yet to figure out why you keep insisting that the whole article was just a big joke.
You seem to want to make it seem as if you weren't really telling other 'Bama fans to shut up. You seem to wish for others to believe that your whole article was just an illustration of what others think of 'Bama.
Well, Cameon, this just isn't so. You were directly commenting on how you felt after having your vision, not specifically on how you imagine others people around the nation view us. You lecture 'Bama fans and tell them to shut up, you have had enough of their whining about the loss, 'Bama lost and that is all there is to it, get over it, etc...
So why do you continue to assume that I have totally missed the whole concept of your Bill Clinton receiving sexual favors and God + Nick Saban article?
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
Please don't talk to me like I'm a child. Your on a very thin patch of ice.
That was my intention from the article honestly. Not until after did I realize that people actually thought we did this. I then got to realizing that we might. Not everyone, but some.
You took offense to something that really shouldn't have made you offended. Everyone else read it for what it was.
I don't lecture. It's really none of my concern. I know as an Alabama fan I can get overzealous. Everyone can about the teams they love. Again, you seem to have taken everything I said in the complete wrong way. And, I'm sorry about that, but honestly, you can't please everyone.
Again, the analogy was a JOKE!
If you really think I was telling Bama fans to shut up...you are really wrong. That was never my intention. Again, it was written in a humorous way. Never meant to offend anyone.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
The last thing I'm going to say to you about this (unless you have a legitimate question) is this.
I stand behind what I wrote. As David said, I write with passion and honesty because that's who I am as a person. You don't know me so I wouldn't expect you to know that, but if you read through my comments, posts on my bulletin board, and a few other things, I think you'll realize that most people see me as such.
I love my Crimson Tide. As does every other Alabama fan. Some call me addicted. Others possessed. I simply call it passion. I'm passionate about life and I'm an honest person. I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear all the time.
Based on the fact that some of the fans posted their responses as having done these things before or have known someone, maybe it wasn't so out there after all as was my original intent.
Roll Tide,
Bama Chick
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Whatever, Cameon, it doesn't really matter anyway. Just killing time here. BTW, you almost sound as if you are threatening me with your "very thin patch of ice" comment. LOL. Get real, okay. Don't get goofy again.
Besides, no one has spoken to you as if you were a child. In fact, I have asked you to explain your article and all you can come up with is that it was a joke and all the barking at and lessons given to 'Bama fans wasn't really directed at them, but was somehow in reverse or something. Hell, I don't even believe you know what you were trying to say now because you have flip-flopped so much.
I mean, you say it was in the humor section of BR, but it really wasn't funny. I am not talking about just the amazingly imbecilic analogy, if one can even call it that, but about the "lessons" you proceed to give Alabama fans. What is funny about a 'Bama fan having a vision and then determining that everything she has read about or heard about or experienced from just about any source is true about the team she supports?
What is the point of the article, can you even manage to answer that? It was a joke, blah, blah, blah, I know, but what was the joke about? Was it a joke at the expense of Alabama fans that you have determined didn't take the loss to Utah as well as you think that they should have? Really, how is that funny?
I can see where a bunch of AuNecks like your former boyfriend would think it was hilarious and just a stump jumping/cow patty licking good time but, what could a 'Bama fan find amusing about your joke article?
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
I wasn't threatening you. I wouldn't waste my time with that honestly.
I have explained my article several times, and honestly I'm not sure how else you would like me to explain it. Maybe someone else can explain it to you.
It was supposed to be humorous because of the simple facts of the article. A die hard Bama fan, like myself, looking at the other side of things. It really was supposed to be funny. At first, when I wrote it, that was the intention. Just to really bring up some of the things that people thought Bama fans did.
Then, I started reading comments and really getting feedback from people saying they knew people that did this or had done it themselves. That's when I realized that we all might have been guilty of those things at some point or another. It was really whatever perspective you took it from honestly.
I don't know where you heard that about my former boyfriend being an Auburn fan but if you read before you opened your mouth, you would also know that me and him CONSTANTLY fought over Alabama and Auburn. It's actually one of the reasons our relationship didn't work out. Not that I owe you an explanation for my personal life.
I'm not sure how "my AuNkecks" really are involved in this...but I do know that term isn't really necessary. It's offensive really. And that's coming from someone that really dislikes Auburn. There's just no need for that kind of name calling.
Now, like I said before, do what I said do...check out my other articles and comments. You will hopefully realize that your assumptions are wrong.
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Adam Wren 6 months ago
Over 100 comments and I gotta add to it?! Greeeeaat! Well written. Adding humor with honesty and a splash of convectional history and you get a work of art by Cameon, the Bama Chick. Keep it up!
RTR,
Adam
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Adam,
Well...you didn't have to comment, but I'm glad you did. I know you are a huge Alabama fan, which is why I wanted your opinion. Apparently it offended one Bama fan...out of lots. Ha.
Thanks for the read and the comment,
The Bama Chick
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Ctrl-Alt-Del 6 months ago
Cameon, first of all, I have no hard feelings towards you at all. We are just exchanging ideas. Sure, we aren't being buttery sweet with each other, good thing too because that makes me nauseous.
And of course you owe me no explanation about your personal life. I was simply restating what you voluntarily offered up in a reply to someone. If you don't want anyone to comment on your scribbling's, here is a hint, don't post it. That you have an affinity for AuNecks is no concern of mine at all; I was just trying to get a grasp on your admonishments that you felt Alabama fans needed.
I mean, yes, the article would have been a real good funny for just about anyone but an Alabama fan.
Don't freak out over my use of the term AuNeck, either. For me, it is a term of endearment that I use for the fans of Georgia's 3rd best team. Why, just the other day, an AuNeck was cleaning out my gutters and I offered him a drink of water. I put it in a plastic throwaway cup because I didn't know what type of country bumpkin germs he may have had, but I was still being nice to him. That proves that I harbor no ill-will towards any AuNeck.
Anyway, I will check out your other articles. You seem okay. Hell, I may even give you my stamp of approval in a few days, if your articles check out. LOL.
Seriously, Cameon, I have read a couple of your articles and always liked them. For some reason, this one just hit me the wrong way. I am sure you don't mind me mentioning that and I hope you will do the same to some of my articles if you don't agree with them.
Furthermore, you have made very clear what you wanted to get across and I respect your tenacity in defending yourself.
Sincerely yours,
Altie
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Ctrl,
Well, first of all, I'd say you attacked me with your ideas. Ha. Anyway, you are right that I owe you no explanation for my personal life. If I posted that to someone, it wasn't meant to be thrown in my face at a later date, because there was no reason it should have been.
I'm glad you liked the other articles. I'm sorry you took offense to this one...especially when there was no need to...but it happens sometimes.
I'll always defend myself, even to people that don't really have the maturity to post their disagreements in a mature manner. But I digress. Just like I'll always defend my Tide.
Let me know what ya think of the other articles. I'm curious to see what you think. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
P.S. Your "stamp of approval" doesn't really mean all that much by the way. Ha. No offense to you, it's just the person I am.
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SportMonk 6 months ago
This article speaks not only to Bama fans but to all fans. Replace "Alabama", "Crimson Tide", "Bear Bryant" and "Nick Saban" with "Nebraska, "Huskers", "Tom Osborne" and "Bo Pelini" and it hits home with us too. In fact, it's almost like a madlib: [Team], [Mascot], [Legendary Coach], [Current coach], then read.
And that's a testament to your writing ability, to say something so completely true that it applies to everyone.
Another great one, Cam. Sorry I've been a little behind and haven't been on much lately, but I'm getting caught up, I promise! ;)
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Monk,
I'm glad you liked it. :) You have been behind and you should be ashamed but I guess I'll forgive you. At least this one time. Haha.
Hope everything is going ok.
Thanks for the read and the feedback.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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SportMonk 5 months ago
I had to scroll a LONG way to get to this comment, haha. Nice work getting a lot of feedback.
Yah, I have been behind, but school's started back up which means I'm working less so I have more discretionary time to dedicate to b/r. :) Hopefully I'll be putting up an article within the hour, and I'll be sure to send you a link. I would love if you took a look at it.
I look forward to your next, Cameon! I hope Christmas break was kind to you!
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Cameon Shiflett 5 months ago
Haha. I was just thinking the same thing as I came all the way down the page to get to your comment, but as always it was worth the scrolling. :)
I can understand school starting back. We got started back and started with finals. (Its really weird taking finals after the Christmas break). I will definitely check out the article although I'm sure it's amazing as always.
I actually have something cooking right now...I'm just kinda stuck. I hate when that happens.
My holiday was really cool. I got to travel to NYC for New Years. Very cool. :) I hope yours was very cool and football filled as mine was. :)
Roll Tide,
Bama Chick
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SportMonk 5 months ago
Well, I hope you're able to break the writer's block on your newest because I'm really looking forward to it.
NYC, huh? I got to spend New Year's in the greatest city in the world, Oklahoma City, celebrating with all my favorite people (save a few) at The Flaming Lips annual concert. It was totally bomb.
And yah, I watched more football than was probably healthy. But I loved it. :)
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Cameon Shiflett 5 months ago
Ha. I hope so too. It's definitely another one of those "emotion" articles. I just can't do statistics like I used to be able to. It's just not my writing style.
New Years in NYC is really cool. Definitely one of those things you should add to your 'Bucket List.' Not that you are dying anytime soon. Ha.
Oklahoma City huh? What is there to do in Oklahoma City anyway? Glad you had fun though. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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GeorgiaDawg 6 months ago
Cam, Great job! Sorry I'm so late getting to this one.
I agree with most who have said, its not just Bama fans. Its all about perspective. Its all about your outlook.
As a Georgia fans this year was a hard pill to swallow. You don't always get want you want.... but the season plays out and you have to adjust your expectations. In the end, I was glad we won 10 games and beat Mich State.
Accept it and shut up. Next year is coming soon enough....
5 Stars and my POTD!!
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
GeorgiaDawg,
Georgia will be fine. Every team has their up and down years. It's part of football. It's staying a fan throughout all the years that really counts. :)
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Roll Tide.
The Bama Chick
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JoeGator Gator 6 months ago
BeeCee,
You're bright, witty, savvy in matters involving Bama football, and gracious to all... don't expect the rest of us to live up to all that... it ain't happnin'.
Gator Joe
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Gator Joe,
Ha. Thanks for the compliments. However, I am no saint. At all. I've been guilty of doing all these things at one time or another. And I probably will again.
Thanks for the read and comment.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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mindi green 6 months ago
Damn ya'll!!!!!!!! Don't ya just LOVE college football????? RTR!!
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Robb Humphrey 6 months ago
This article says to me, the ultimate fan's perspective. Just because you included the Tide as the subject doesn't exclude the other team sports organizations from emplacing their team within the context of Alabama.
I hope to read other Pulitzer Prize ringers you come up with!
Robb
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Robb,
I'm so glad you liked the article. :) You should check out some of my other's if you have the time. The "Closet" articles and the "Something More Than Just Your Average Bowl Game," articles have been very popular, however very different. :)
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Robb Humphrey 6 months ago
I will, I shall, and I look forward to them:)
Hope you like my shoutout in my 1st article...
Robb
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Robb,
Ha. I hope you like them and I'll be looking forward to your comments. :)
I read the article and didn't notice a shout out but maybe I missed it. haha.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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mindi green 5 months ago
Robb, you know you're a trip right?? LOL I'm YOUR fan sweetie!!!! Take care!!
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rolltider01 6 months ago
Cameon, I enjoyed the article, i too found myself sugar coating the loss, and not giving Utah the credit they deserved. Not intentionally, but as a bama fan, when people attack bama, i come up with anything i can to defend them. As do most Bama fans.
That is the biggest problem for me, when the AU, FL, LSU fans etc... get on a blog and say how we embarrassed the SEC and that we are overrated and blah blah blah, it shouldn't bother us but it does and that's when we Bama fans start spitting out excuses. Because no matter how bad we suck we don't want to have to hear it from everyone else. We are always trying to convince the world that the UA is a good school because there are so many people out there that constantly try to convince us it's not.
If everyone only paid attention to their school, how lame would college football be. I was feeling kind of down after the slaughter in the sugar bowl, but after getting on here and reading all the negative posts and neg. articles degrading the SEC and Bama, i am fired up again, I am ready for some football.
I was so down, i wasn't even going to watch the NC game, but now that i have gotten on and seen all the SEC haters, I will be pulling hard for Florida tonight and I hope they DECIMATE Oklahoma. Because no matter what my fellow SEC fans say about Bama. in the end i will always pull for an SEC team over any other conference in the country, and yes that includes AU and TENN.
Now if it is an SEC conference game, as in SEC against SEC, i never pull for AU or TENN, i mean what's college football without your rival's. J/K.....No seriously.....HA
Roll Tide Roll!!!!
I by no means am implying this is one of those neg. articles. I think CTRL-ALT-DLT forgot to hit the page tab and read the 2nd page of your article...Considering that is where you wrap things up and make your point that he/she was desperately trying to understand.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Tider,
I too find myself making excuses for Alabama. And your right, we all just want Alabama to be appreciated the way we love the Tide. However, I finally realized, no matter how many games we win or National Championships we win, Alabama will never be "A great football program," because teams/people from other conferences like to downgrade the SEC and Alabama.
With all of our excuses as to why the Tide is so great, there are also always excuses as to why we aren't. "Well you won all of your regular season games, but that doesn't matter because the SEC was terrible this year." And that was the one I heard the most. Besides snide comments about how much we payed Saban, that is.
I think Ctrl forgot to do a lot of things personally...like take his happy pill. Haha. But, no matter, there will always be people that don't like your article and that's fine. I just felt the need to defend my article as he got the wrong idea.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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jason hughes 6 months ago
sorry i am a gator fan , what is this word losing i keep hearing of, im not familiar with the term
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Jason,
I'm sorry your a Gator fan too. I'm also sorry your parents dropped you on your head when you were little. Haha.
And, as a Gator fan, you should be familiar with the term "lose" since your team lost to Ole Miss this past season.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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Robb Humphrey 6 months ago
So of all the places where we are supposed to be adult and responsible for our actions and words since everyone who is a member can read our articles and comments, you place this crude and disrespectful rubbing in directly in the line of a fan of an opposing team. It's no secret Florida is the bully of Florida.
Before you say it, yes, I am a Florida State fan, and though our seasons have not been as great as yours in the past few years, I dare to say that without your prize quarterback and wide receiver next year, we'll see just how many times you learn the word "losing." Yes, they will both go to the draft. No doubts...
If you got beef, gatorboy, bring it, because I have nothing better to do than protect the sanctity of a writer's opinion compared to the likes of YOU.
Next year...in the swamp...hope you have your Viagra...its the only way you're going to stay up the entire game.
Noles 2009 - mark your calendar!
Robb
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Robb,
Were you referring to me or Jason?
If you were referring to me, please understand that I was joking. Florida played a good game last night. Granted, not one of their best, but it was a good game.
I have respect for Florida. They've had a great team this year. It doesn't do any good to bash another team. I was just having some good natured fun to someone that left probably such a not so good natured comment.
I could choose to either respond with a joke...or make another comment. And why not laugh? What else are you going to do?
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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rolltider01 6 months ago
he was definetely talking to Jason, i believe. Florida State hates UF bout as much as AU hates Bama...I almost typed the same response to Jason, bout Ole Miss, thankfullly you already corrected him so i can keep my dignity for another day.
Jason, congrats to your team, it was a very good game, one of the most enjoyable, i have seen in awhile. Glad to see the SEC knock off another Big 12 team. Congrats...enjoy the offseason.
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Cameon Shiflett 6 months ago
Tider,
I think I replied to his comment with dignity...Haha. Although it took everything within me to not say a few other things...
Two teams hating each other as much as UA/AU hate each other? Is that even possible? :)
I realized after I read the comment again he was probably talking about Jason, especially with the "gator boy" comment. I am definitely NOT a Gator and I am also definitely NOT a boy. Ha.
Roll Tide,
The Bama Chick
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rolltider01 6 months ago
Cameon,
i probably wouldn't have been so nice...
probably not but you never know, i hear the Mich & Ohio State hatred is something to behold, never been there so i woul