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LOS ANGELES, CA - SEPTEMBER 05: Cody Ross (L) #13 and Andres Torres #56 of the San Francisco Giants congratulate each other following their teams victory over the Los Angeles Dodgers at Dodger Stadium on September 5, 2010 in Los Angeles, California. The Jeff Gross/Getty Images

NLCS Breakdown: Comparing The Giants and Phillies Defensively in 2010

Kevin O'BrienOct 13, 2010

As a Giants fan and writer, I just can't get over what Buster Olney said on Bill Simmons' MLB Playoff Podcast, which I listened to yesterday.

Basically, I came away with four things:

1.) The Tampa Bay Rays have the best GM in baseball (probably true).

2.) The Red Sox are hurting in terms of the money they owe to contracts next year (true, but unnecessary considering the Red Sox aren't in the playoffs).

3.) The Mariners made a mistake by taking Justin Smoak from the Rangers instead of Jesus Montero in the Cliff Lee trade (very, very true when you consider Montero's a catcher).

4.) The Giants have no chance against the Phillies because of their offense (true) and defense.

(You can find the BS Report Podcast between Simmons and Olney here.)

The defense part kills me. Olney remarked to Simmons that the Giants had "one of the worst defenses in baseball."

For a baseball writer, and one who likes to follow modern trends (e.g. some sabermetrics), I can't believe Olney would put his foot in his mouth like this.

So, to prove my point over Olney's, let's look and compare the Giants  position by position (on UZR and UZR/150 basis) to the Phillies, who apparently are "better" defensively than the Giants.

Left Field: Pat Burrell vs. Raul Ibanez.

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SAN FRANCISCO - AUGUST 25:  Pat Burrell #9 of the San Francisco Giants misplayed a ball hit by Drew Stubbs #6 of the Cincinnati Reds at AT&T Park on August 25, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
SAN FRANCISCO - AUGUST 25: Pat Burrell #9 of the San Francisco Giants misplayed a ball hit by Drew Stubbs #6 of the Cincinnati Reds at AT&T Park on August 25, 2010 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Burrell: 4.9 and 10.7.
2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Ibanez: minus-6.9 and minus-8.4.

The positive UZR and UZR/150 information is probably an aberration.

Burrell is a career -39.7 outfielder defensively. This positive UZR and UZR/150 is the first instance in his career since 2004.

That being said, Ibanez has been atrocious in the field this year, and has been so in the past (career negative-20.4 UZR). At the very least, it's a wash.

But I would give the benefit of the doubt to Burrell mainly because he has been better this year, while Ibanez has taken a dive after posting positive UZR numbers a season ago.

Edge: Giants.

Center Field: Andres Torres vs. Shane Victorino.

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SAN FRANCISCO - JULY 28:  Andres Torres #56 of the San Francisco Giants in action during their game against the Florida Marlins at AT&T Park on July 28, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
SAN FRANCISCO - JULY 28: Andres Torres #56 of the San Francisco Giants in action during their game against the Florida Marlins at AT&T Park on July 28, 2010 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Torres: 21.2 and 24.8.
2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Victorino: 2.6 and 3.3.

Victorino has traditionally been a solid outfielder (career 30.5 UZR).

But what Torres has done has been unbelievable. And it's not just a fluke, either.

Torres still posted very good UZR numbers a year ago (8.2) despite playing a sparing amount of games (his UZR/150 translated to 33). Torres can save runs and he can save runs in bunches, particularly helpful considering the Giants pitchers are primarily strikeout-flyball pitchers.

You don't want to discredit Victorino and what he has done in his career, but the past two years, he can't hold a candle to what Torres has done defensively.

Edge: Giants

Right Field: Cody Ross vs. Jayson Werth.

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CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Jayson Werth #28 of the Philadelphia Phillies moves into position to catch a fly ball against the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeated
CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Jayson Werth #28 of the Philadelphia Phillies moves into position to catch a fly ball against the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeated

2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Ross: 2.9 and 3.4.
2010 OF UZR and UZR/150 for Werth: negative-6.9 and negative-7.2.

This may be the toughest position to judge for both teams.

Ross isn't incredible defensively, but at the very least, he's average to above-average (career 3.5 UZR in OF). Werth has actually been great over his career (career 43.8 UZR in the OF), but has struggled this season.

If you judge Werth against Jose Guillen (-23.1 UZR for his career in the OF), then the Phillies have this won outright. But then you consider Nate Schierholtz (6.4 UZR this year in RF), and suddenly the Giants have more depth (Ben Francisco, their backup right fielder posted negative UZR numbers).

I'm just going to call this one a draw, mainly because I don't think Werth is as bad as his stats this year indicate. And Ross, while solid, is nothing special (though he certainly is a heck of a lot better defensively than Guillen).

Edge: Push.

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Third Base: Pablo Sandoval vs. Placido Polanco.

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CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Placido Polanco #27 of the Philadelphia Phillies moves into position against the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeated the Reds 2-0.  (
CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Placido Polanco #27 of the Philadelphia Phillies moves into position against the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeated the Reds 2-0. (

2010 3B UZR and UZR/150 for Sandoval: 1.2 and 1.5.
2010 3B UZR and UZR/150 for Polanco: 10 and 11.3.

No doubt the Phillies have the edge here.

Polanco has been stellar this year, and has been over his career (21.8 career UZR at third). Sandoval performed much better this year (he had a -3.6 UZR last year), but he has regressed in the second half, and he still has problems with his throwing accuracy at times.

Even if Mike Fontenot starts at third, the Phillies still have the advantage with Polanco. Fontenot's career UZR is -4.2 at third base.

Edge: Phillies.

Shortstop: Juan Uribe vs. Jimmy Rollins.

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CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Jimmy Rollins #11 of the Philadelphia Phillies hops after turning a double play over Brandon Phillips of the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Philli
CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Jimmy Rollins #11 of the Philadelphia Phillies hops after turning a double play over Brandon Phillips of the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Philli

2010 SS UZR and UZR/150 for Uribe: 2.1 and 3.3.
2010 SS UZR and UZR/150 for Rollins: 6.9 and 12.3.

This one is another matchup that clearly favors the Phillies...though not as much as people would like to think.

Olney was pretty clear in calling out Uribe as a poor defensive shortstop.

Now is he a Gold Glove candidate? Probably not, but he is better than his pudgy frame would suggest (career 18.5 UZR).

Rollins, of course, is a better athlete and, hence, a better defensive player (career 44.5 UZR). The Phillies have the advantage in this department because Rollins is so great.

They don't have the advantage, though, because Uribe is so poor, like Olney would like to think.

Edge: Phillies.

Second Base: Freddy Sanchez vs. Chase Utley.

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CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Chase Utley #26 of the Philadelphia Phillies hops at 2nd base after forcing out Scott Rolen of the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeate
CINCINNATI - OCTOBER 10: Chase Utley #26 of the Philadelphia Phillies hops at 2nd base after forcing out Scott Rolen of the Cincinnati Reds during game 3 of the NLDS at Great American Ball Park on October 10, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Phillies defeate

2010 2B UZR and UZR/150 for Sanchez: 5.9 and 9.3.
2010 2B UZR and UZR/150 for Utley: 10.3 and 12.9.

The Phillies take it again here, but it's closer than one would like to believe, especially if you look at UZR/150.

I think when you take into consideration that Sanchez has been hurt most of the year, Sanchez's UZR numbers look a whole lot better (hence, the drop in difference in UZR/150 between him and Utley).

Utley is one of the top second basemen in the game both offensively and defensively, so on just position alone, Utley is the clear favorite. But Sanchez is no slouch, and Fontenot has proven to be a more-than-adequate backup at second as well (8.6 career UZR at 2B).

Edge: Phillies.

First Base: Aubrey Huff vs. Ryan Howard.

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SAN FRANCISCO - SEPTEMBER 16:  Aubrey Huff #17 of the San Francisco Giants can't reach an error thrown by Juan Uribe in the first inning as Ryan Theriot #13 of the Los Angeles Dodgers is safe at first during a Major League Baseball game at AT&T Park on Se
SAN FRANCISCO - SEPTEMBER 16: Aubrey Huff #17 of the San Francisco Giants can't reach an error thrown by Juan Uribe in the first inning as Ryan Theriot #13 of the Los Angeles Dodgers is safe at first during a Major League Baseball game at AT&T Park on Se

2010 1B UZR and UZR/150 for Huff: 5.4 and 9.7.
2010 1B UZR and UZR/150 for Howard: -12.8 and -11.6.

Olney also said in the podcast that Huff "probably should be a DH."

Well, Buster, you haven't been watching the Giants season that closely if you think that.

First of all, Huff is significantly better than Howard at first. Second, in addition to better UZR numbers than Howard, Huff has also played three positions this year (left field and right field) and held his own (he only posted negative numbers in right field, but his UZR/150 was only -7.2, which isn't bad considering how hard it is to play right in AT&T Park).

Huff not only showed that he can field adequately at first, but he showed that he can be mixed in the field and not be a complete disaster.

Edge: Giants.

Catcher: Buster Posey vs. Carlos Ruiz.

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SAN FRANCISCO - OCTOBER 03:  Buster Posey #28 of the San Francisco Giants in action during their game against the San Diego Padres at AT&T Park on October 3, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
SAN FRANCISCO - OCTOBER 03: Buster Posey #28 of the San Francisco Giants in action during their game against the San Diego Padres at AT&T Park on October 3, 2010 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

2010 stats for Posey: six errors, one passed ball, 37.1 CS percentage.
2010 stats for Ruiz: six errors, four passed balls, 28.6 CS percentage.

No question, Posey is a better athlete than Ruiz.

However, Posey showed great defense behind the plate this year for the Giants. His 37.1 CS percentage was fourth in the National League this year, not bad considering it is his first year.

Furthermore, he was tied with Ruiz in terms of errors committed (fourth-best in the NL). Sure, Ruiz isn't much worse, but I'm giving this one to Posey, mainly because he's done all this as a rookie, and he has the better CS percentage.

Edge: Giants.

Team UZR in 2010.

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ATLANTA - OCTOBER 10:  Freddy Sanchez #21 of the San Francisco Giants is congratulated by teammates after the Giants defeated the Atlanta Braves 3-2 to win Game Three of the NLDS of the 2010 MLB Playoffs on October 10, 2010 at Turner Field in Atlanta, Geo
ATLANTA - OCTOBER 10: Freddy Sanchez #21 of the San Francisco Giants is congratulated by teammates after the Giants defeated the Atlanta Braves 3-2 to win Game Three of the NLDS of the 2010 MLB Playoffs on October 10, 2010 at Turner Field in Atlanta, Geo

Giants: 56.4 (second in MLB).
Phillies: -5.8 (17th in MLB).

Edge: Giants.

Verdict

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SAN FRANCISCO - APRIL 28:  Ryan Howard #8 of the Philadelphia Phillies in action against the San Francisco Giants during an MLB game at AT&T Park on April 28, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)
SAN FRANCISCO - APRIL 28: Ryan Howard #8 of the Philadelphia Phillies in action against the San Francisco Giants during an MLB game at AT&T Park on April 28, 2010 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

The Giants have the better outfield and catcher. The Phillies have the better infield (sans first base).

On terms of count alone in the breakdown, the Giants beat the Phillies 4-3-1 (with the one draw being right field).

Are the Giants much better than the Phillies defensively? Probably, but not by much.

That being said, I think this effectively refutes Olney's point on Simmons' podcast that the Giants are a lousy defensive team. They're not, and the numbers back it up.

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