There are a lot of controversies to our drafting. Some say our run defense was the worst part of our game. Why didn't we take Dorsey? Some liked the high-flying Darren McFadden, probably the best talent of the draft.
I'm here to tell you things I believe could be on the horizon for success again, like the Raiders in the first part of the decade.
Between 2000 and 2002, the Oakland Raiders were winning, getting to the playoffs and made even a trip to the Super Bowl. So, what was the identity of the team in those years?
Gruden was all about the run, and we had a nice talent in Napoleon Kaufman. Oakland had a QB who was mobile and used a West Coast offense. Our defense consisted of two great corners and some good safety work. Now it is true we had two great WRs in Jerry Rice and Tim Brown, but the deep ball wasn't necessarily our focus. It was the run game.
Now let's fast forward to this year. What do we have now: two great corners, very good safeties, a mobile QB and now probably some of the best running back talent in the league. The only thing we need to find is those good WRs. but we have a lot of good prospects.
Kiffin is devoted to run first, that's why he acquired Tom Cable and Knapp. Its a run-first team to set up play action, and occasionally the deep ball.
The big myth about JaMarcus Russell is he's just got a great arm. Really? That's it? He's mobile, even more than Gannon, one of the best arms in the league, but he is good with the short game too. Now of course, he's had the best work ethic of any Raider this off-season rivaling Peyton's when he first came out.
When just quickly thinking what the Raiders makeup is this year, you would say the running game with Darren McFadden and two great corners with good safeties. I mean, we don't think about the great passing game.
When the Raiders faced the Ravens in the 2000 playoffs, the Raiders were No. 1 in rushing. The only trouble was the Ravens were No. 1 against the run. So the logical strategy is to pass against them, but Gruden was too conservative. It wasn't until the 2002 playoff run that the Raiders became the No. 1 passing attack with still a good running game.
So what is the same about this year versus the 2000 Raiders? I'll leave that up to you. It's pretty easy to see the similarities. But one thing I like in our favor, is that we have a QB who has far more potential than Gannon did. He can run left and throw back to the right, which the hardest throw to make. He is taller, bigger, more mobile with far better arm.
The cool thing about JaMarcus is he can flick the ball in there like others have to do winding up, and if he recognizes his capabilities can be ever so dangerous in the short game. But our game is run first, and now we have set a course to being great at that.
The passing will follow, and so will the success. The only concern is that this story doesn't end like the Gruden era, as I believe Kiffin can be better in one aspect, he's not so conservative.
So for all those opposed to Darren McFadden and not supposedly addressing the defensive line, as it was with those Gruden Raiders, let me say this. When you're scoring, the others have to keep up, and where does that lead, to our strength the pass D, just like it was with Gruden. So is the defensive line what you remember about those Gruden Raiders?
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ross piggott about 1 year ago
insightful article, i agree with the positive sentiment. I just pray 2008 is not another case of offseason hope and regular season heartache. The Silver and Black definitely have a strong nucleus of young talent, it's just a question of how long will they take to reach their full potential and gel as a cohesive unit. Go Raiders, i'll be cheering from the other side of the globe!
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Carl Fiorica about 1 year ago
Good article, I am excited about this offseason and while I agree with most everything here...McFadden helping the offense, our QB is a stud and the pass defense should be awesome...I just want to caution against the possibility that a good running team can kill the clock by keeping the chains moving. If we can't stop the run, we can't stop the clock and we can't stop the losing. We may have quick strike capabilities but it does us no good on the sidelines. That being said, I think our Run D will be improved this year. I think we have some key pickups in William Joseph (underated DT) and the Kelly/Sands combo should function well given time to gel. If Ed Hartwell can stick with the team, that could go a long way in helping with stopping the run too.
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Rebel Raider about 1 year ago
Thanks Steve for an excellent thought out article. It's not like a team can have all things all the time... Unless your the NE Cheatrirefs... but then they got caught and we found out why... But hey we've being saying these things about them since the Tuck Game, now everyone knows and sees how the NFL Brass helps them.
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Nick Nasiri about 1 year ago
very good article Steve. the Oakland raiders will show the haters how good they are as they return back to the playoffs.
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Alan Seals about 1 year ago
Good article, but while I agree Russell is a much greater talent than Gannon with a far greater arm and more upside I don't think he is more mobile. This is one of the areas in which Gannon was elite, while Russell is only average.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
a couple added things i didnt mention is that our run D i think will be better because, one we know that it will be a focus, and two Sands had a tragedy that kept his mind elsewhere, he says hes back and i have to go with that. it takes time to deal with somn like that. and adding Gibril Wilson, if you see him on with the press after workouts he talked about being a physical force in the box, which should also help the run D. but i think the biggest thing is if your the ones moving the ball keeping the D off the field then they can rest, which should help the run D, especially when your scoring alot.
Gannon was very mobile, but ill bet Russell beats him in a race every time. I believe Russell is faster than you think, last year he was just feeling things out, but i saw him run pretty darn good at LSU. in fact sometimes i thought he was as fast as Vince Young. plus after his hard workouts this offseason hes in even better shape and as Kiffin said hes a completely different person than what you saw last year. but the run game still will be our first priority. itll just be nice to see what JR brings this year.
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Maverick about 1 year ago
Nicely done Mr. Trepe.
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Castor Troy about 1 year ago
During our Super Bowl run, we had Garner and Wheatley. Napoleon Kaufman retired in 2000.
Also we lost the Ravens game because that fat F#@$ Siragusa sat on Gannon. Not the play calling.
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Natalie Svider about 1 year ago
I am so excited about this season, more so that the past few. There has been so much off season activity to beef up both sides and I am glad they are finally paying attention. This definitely should've been happening last season. I very much want to see Russell and his canon, can't wait.
I know I will be up in Oak-Town for the season, as always.
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Chris X about 1 year ago
Napoleon Kaufman retired at the end of the 2000 season. We had Charlie Garner from 2001-2003 who was even better than Nap Kaufman. In 2000, he only carried the ball 93 times because his ankles were so bad.
Russell will never be as athletic as Gannon (drafted as a defensive back).You are crazy to think that Russell beats Gannon in a foot race every time or that he is anywhere near as fast or mobile as Vince Young. Gannon was faster at 35 y/o than Russell is now.
I sure hope that Russell is not rolling left and throwing back right or we will be in for a long year (again). There is not a quarterback in the NFL who is going to win games throwing across the field like that...Kiffin will come unglued if that happens.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
you missing the point, JR has the ability to do the hardest throw. do you actually think hes going to do that often, cmon. and how do you figure Gannon was faster, he was elusive not fast. i dont know the 40 times but ill bet you anything JR is faster, you havnt seen him when he wants to run. and JR although i believe is at least as athletic as Gannon doesnt need to be, hes bigger with a better arm. Gannon had to find the seems, JR can just throw over the top.
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Chris X about 1 year ago
Dude, I have forgotten more than you'll ever know about this topic. I have no idea what you are trying to get at but the fact that you'd even attempt to start making comparisons between Russell and Gannon tells me that you are smoking dope. When Russell wins games and starts delivering on his contract, then you might be able to start making comparisons...but I've got news for you, when Gruden left, the franchise did not go with him. When Gannon was hurt in Callahan's last year then forced to retire in Norv's first year (giving way to Collins), we went in the tank.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
I know all about Gannon, theres nothing youll tell me thats like oh wow i didnt know that. if you think the only reason we went in the Tank is cuz Gannon went down then your crazy. in the very first game following the season of the SB, Gannon was getting killed on the right side and everyone was calling for Collins. then they put the rookie Gallery at RT, which i was calling for, and Gannon was then ok. but inevitably the coaching is what killed us. because coaching is about getting the right talent and building on that. Gannon was great but the team wasnt great at first when he was there. dont get so high on people when you must understand the system. do you think Brady wouldve gotten us to the SB under shell 2 years ago. Gannon had a life long career before he fit in with the Raiders nicely, but on talent alone JR kills him. who has the better arm, and dont think for a sec that Gannon was more mobile just because he had a good overall team. ive seen Gannon run and ive seen JR, even when JR was learning last year he had a run that was faster. and in the LSU vs ND bowl game JR had a run play specifically designed for him and he went about 20 yds right up the field, and i guarantee you he was going faster than Gannon wouldve.
Listen i loved Gannon but one of his things was he had developed leadership and got comfortable with the team, they meshed together. but on pure talent JR kills him. and JR has being working like Peyton did his first year, hes studying super hard, knows all the plays already and is looking for more new stuff. also is the hardest working Raider this offseason. what was Gannon his first year, dont buy the myth that nobodies better than, or can be better than Gannon just because the team had success under decent coaching, or because Gannon had played already. im talkin pure talent. yes JR hasnt had any time consistently yet, but dont turn a blind eye just cuz your in a tizzy about saying, oh Gannon was the greatest, how dare any other Raider QB be called better:) relax. yes JR still has to go out and prove the intangibles, but if you knew nothing about and they were both being drafted whose talent would you take. Gannon was great because of the system, not because he was an amazing talent. sheesh lol.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
Jamarcus has started 1 game and lost Gannon had a veteran established team that was an offensive passing monster when callahan took the raiders to the superbowl.
Gruden's 2001 team was ranked 24th in running 4th in passing 3700+ yards!
553 pass attemps to 450 run attemps!
2000 raiders were a run first team ranked 1st pass ranked 15th
so that must be what you were remembering?
2000 we were 12-4 not 4-12 like 2007
with 24 sacks allowed not 40+
and 27 in 2001
That's what is the biggest concern for me and one still not addressed to my sattisfaction or west side pirates as he pointed out in his article today rund pass protection and sea bass these are the things that make me an ensomniac watching game tape over and over.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
there is such a thing as overanalyzing:), take a long break, you need it:)
and didnt even think about it but Grudens first year i believe was 4-12 just like Kiffin, hmm.
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Chris X about 1 year ago
Steve-
If you want to come online and try and tell REAL RAIDERFANS something, maybe you ought to have your facts right.
A REAL RAIDERFAN would know that Gruden was never 4-12...but once again.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
yeah i made a blunder, but so what. that doesnt mean diddly. and saying whether you are a real Raider fan or not doesnt give you any leeway. a friend of mine who is what you consider a real Raider fan always asks me for the latest on the Raiders. he can tell you that my analysis of the Raiders from coaching, gameplans players etc exceeds many. when i started talking with Raider fans online he didnt like to do so cuz he said they dont know anything. i gave you guys the benefit of the doubt dont mess it up lol.
really, were fellow Raider fans dont get defensive. saying the Raiders were 4-12 vs 8-8 first year with Gruden shows that i dont dwell on the past. i look at current things, but i know enough things of the past to prove my point. i watched Gruden and Gannon build that team.
one thing is though, if your responding to me about getting facts right because of Frank, you need to go to my other Oline and Cable article, and see the guy who responded by saying he had read both Franks and my analysis and said i would have to say steve makes more sense.
you see Chris, i dont watch football to look at a bunch of numbers on a paper do you. we watch for great plays and overall fun of it. Games arent won or lost on paper, its what happens on the field. and you can see a process or style of teams, players, coaches to kind of evaluate. and Frank thinks like i do that Kiffin will be much better than Gruden was.
so have you watched the NFL access with Kirk Morrison on there talking about JR and other stuff. pretty incredible so far. remember fan is short for fanatic. thats why im more of an observer than a fan because im not going to let my enthusiasm for the Raiders cloud my mind or be unopen. im not going to say things like Gannon was the greatest no one else can be better. thats why i believe JR will be better because i see the outlook of what hes doing and his ability. tell me who would you rather have, and this is if both Gannon and JR are coming out of college, JR or Gannon. Gannon was already established and had created chemistry with the Raiders when they started making playoffs. but even Gannons first year with Raiders wasnt that great. again its more about coaching and the system not just talent. when Gannon was doing well they had developed chemistry and continuity on the team. just because JR hasnt had that time yet doesnt mean his individual talent isnt better. you see im about logic and reason and analysis, not just a bunch of meaningless stats. the numbers will be there, its the process and development thats important.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
compares more to the 2005 atlanta falcons run first team better pass defense then run defense
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
falcons never had the kind of Corners we had during 2000-2002 or now, that was part of the comparison.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
actually i had forgot about Garner, but i was referring to how we built the team on the run game when Gruden first came in, then in 2000 it was first before Garner actually took over.
and you cant make the excuse about siragusa putting out Gannon, they had lots of time to pass before that and his backup i believe hoying(a no namer) went right down the field passing and then Rison gets held in end zone and they dont call it which wouldve changed the game.
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Chris X about 1 year ago
They lost the game because Marques Pope wiffed on Shannon Sharpe and got down 2 scores against Ravens D and without Gannon they could not move the ball.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
pass ranking on d and o as real as run d and o very similar check it out!
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Dylan Alexander about 1 year ago
The only problem with Gruden is he couldn't develope talent and we have suffered for it sence. He had a veteran team and it took a blown call { tuck rule } to keep us from winning it all.He hasn't done much in TB untill garcia showed up, well except for kicking our a##es in the superbowl. Kiffen is doing it with youth. Sure it will be hit or miss in the first couple of years, but we will be great for years to come. I reall liked Chucky, but I'll take Kid Kiff over him any day.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
actually Gruden didnt build that team it was given by Dungy, and the Defense and Gruden knowing every little detail about our offense only being one year removed is why they won, i kept saying i hope we play Eagles cuz i knew that Callahan was too much of a dummy to change anything. but i agree that Kiffin will be way better than Gruden ever was, because hes innovative and takes chances. he went for it on 4th down so many times last year, and it was done according to what you should during the course of a game. now with better talent and a year of continuity its going to be much better.
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Dylan Alexander about 1 year ago
Steve, we're on the same page. I didn't mean that he built the team that beat us, I just couldn't say he hasn't done anything in TB because he did win a superbowl. I think Kiffen can build a team with youth and he seem to have "it". Can't explain it anymore than "it". You just know he's got the keys and you'll make it in his car. I just hope that crap about wanting that college job was BS.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
Yes ill be very dissappointed if Al lets Kiffin go or drives him away in some indirect way like he did with Gruden. Personally i dont care that Gruden had left only if he lets Kiffin do his work. i really like Kiffin, he really exemplifies a no nonsense getting back to the old committment to excellence. because it entails hard work, which JR is leading the way and their camps last year as being deemed too intense. ill bet it was Lamont who complained that lazy bum.
the only problem i had with Kiffin and i do like that he makes players earn their spot no matter who they are, but at some point you have to go with the talent and keep consistency. you dont want to keep saying well this guy did great at practice so hell start instead of so and so this week. you have to be a little patient, which i think Kiffin learned some of that last year. but overall i really like what Kiffin represents, good old fashioned hard work.
shoot if Drew and JR are hookin up well and Kiffin sees that, Drew might earn the #1 spot. but we still have a long way to go.
It was great to hear Kiffin say JR is a totally different person from what you saw last year. hes been the hardest working Raider this offseason and it shows. Of course some havnt had the chance to show their work, but you gotta like that from the guy whose supposed to be the leader on the team.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
oh Dylan i also wanted to say i know you think Gruden had done something by winning a SB with the bucs. but in turn you could say, what has Callahan done since getting to SB. its kinda like with Turner, when inherited the talent, he just holds the leash. but he wasnt the trainer. Just like Callahan, Gruden just held the leash for the players to win. and the only reason they won is the D. Gruden is an offensive minded coach. i mean what has Callahan done, far less than Gruden yet he went to SB with the Raiders. to understand where im coming from.
to be honest, to me Gruden got the Raiders to the SB via Callahan, and Dungy won the SB with the Bucs via Gruden. you know what im sayin.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
yes al needs to leave him alone if that was true any part of it he is a very good talant evaluator better the gruden was
They did have d hall
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
but they didnt have Aso. Woodson and Allen or Aso and Hall far outweighs anything they had, not even comparable, not even close.
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Bryan Trafford about 1 year ago
didnt exactly get the gruden comparison. did you mean that kiffin will build a winning team then go to another team and beat the raiders in the super bowl?
If so then he will be EXACTLY like gruden!
GO BUCS, THE RAIDERS SUCK!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
LOL, yeah buddy thats really what i meant. ridiculous. if you payed attention it was about similarities not exactness, go back to your Bucs who will never win anything. Letting Dungy go, brilliant. at least we know Al is impatient and pulls the plug early whats the bucs excuse.
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Double H about 1 year ago
Jamarcus has a LONG way to go to match Gannon in the 2 most important areas that allow a QB to excel in the NFL ...#1) Decision making (this includes Reading coverages, pre-snap reads, audibles, when to throw & when to run) #2) Passing Accuaracy (this includes not only precision but timing as well)
Gannon was exceptional at these 2 skills and that is why he was an MVP, and also these 2 skills are the most important skills a QB can have as they trump everything such as Arm strength & even Mobility...when Jamarcus demonstrates all 4 of those skills (Mobility, Arm Strength, good Decision making, Good accuracy) I'll share in the sentiment he had more potential that Gannon...remember how we got Gannon...and after the fact I'll bet the Chiefs would rather have kept Gannon instead of the big QB with the big arm and big contract Elvis Grbac
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
that is one reason i think JR can be great, because of decision making. thats the great thing i hear this offseason, how well hes working in that area not to mention his study habits. if i didnt hear that then i would be concerned hes just another big guy with an arm. it might not seem to matter but Peyton scored a 26 on wunderlick and JR a 24, its the one thing that kind shows about a QBs ability to think on the go. if you trace QBs wunderlick scores theres a pretty good relation to their decision making on the field. Vince Young had like a 6, and kinda shows up now huh.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
we didn't have mike vick!
You said not exact fits and if you compare this is closer in a lot more ways then yours.
This is a good comparision based on overall offense and defense they are a much closer match in then the 2000-2003 raiders.
The point is you can match teams up because they dress in the same uniforms does't make them the same team or anywhere close.
Coaching styles are also very different, Gruden was not a players coach. Kiffin is a players coach. Gruden knew 1 offensive system and 0 about defense. Kiffin has been groomed in numerous offenses and defenses, he is much better versed on total team strategy. The other big plus for Kiffin is tallent evauation Al said in comparision he is much better at it the Gruden who had to rely on the scoutting staff. I also like the fact the Kiffin tells the truth gruden is known as being the slickster!
The coachs are very different and Al pointed that out when he hired him and said he was closer to Madden then Gruden!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
hey ive been saying i like Kiffin much better. i was just saying as far as run first and 2 shutdown corners were part of the similarities.
you got me all wrong, i love Kiffin and have said numerous times he will be better than Gruden was. i just hope Al doesnt mess that up too.
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Don Wilson about 1 year ago
I don't know about comparing "The Big Guy" w/Rich until he cmpletes some 21 or 22 passes in a row against the donkeys. But I will say this, I'd like to see scardyguosa try to pancake Jamarcus the way he did Rich. But that fat old bum is doing sideline work now so no chance of that, I would, however like to see Russell throw a rocket at his big fat bean head!! Go RAIDAHS!!!
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Chet Miskiel about 1 year ago
Playoffs? A lot of questions yet to be answered this year. The biggest; 1. The offensive line. 1.A. JA. To say that he is going to be similar to Gannon is laughable. Rich Gannon could thread the ball through defensive folks to get the ball into Rice, Brown or Porter's hands. Hey, look at that statement; Rice, Brown and Porter. Yeah Rich had receivers, and good ones at that...what does JA have?
Our backs, I like a lot. Young and deep. And I think Coach will use DM a lot like he used Bush while at USC.
But to think that this year we are going to make the playoffs is a reach. San Diego should and win the West, New England the East, Indy the South and Pittsburgh the North. I think Cleveland gets one of the Wild Cards and that leaves a number of teams that right now, who are a tad bit better than the Silver and Black to get the last, my money pick Jacksonville.
Will we be improved? We should be. Overrated and overweight Sapp is gone. We have young players who are good at key positions. Again, as several folks pointed out if, and that is a BIG IF, if Al leaves Kiffin alone to do his job we can see what Gruden was able to achieve. Build a good team that wins for a number of years. If Al doesn't....back to the top five in next year's draft.
Oh, and defensively we need to figure out how to stop the run. You let the opposition control the game, I don't care how well conditioned the team is, the defense will just break down in the 4th quarter...
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
who said playoffs. and Gannon was on a good overall team. but individually JR blows him away with talent. you dont think JR can thread the needle, are you kidding. Threading the needle means being able to zip it in there, and JR has alot more zip than Gannon ever could. plus JR doesnt need to do that side arm stuff, which was a liability for Gannon sometimes. Hey Gannon was great mostly because of the team, what was he in his first 2 years in league. nothing to talk about i would say.
but people are missing the point, were just talking similarities not exactly the same in everything. people are bringing in extra junk to the statement.
heres how it goes to keep it simple. was Gannon mobile, yes. is JR mobile, yes. did we have 2 great corners under Gruden, yes. do we have 2 great corners now under Kiffin, yes. was Grudens emphasis to start with the Raiders the run game, yes. is Kiffins emphasis on the run game, yes. you understand the correlation here. sheesh people get all out of whack around here.
with that all said anything can happen. having a little consistency in coaching now, which is good coaching things could change in a heartbeat. In the NFL anything can happen you never know. will we make playoffs, very unlikely, can it happen sure, why not. easier schedule, developing better team with playmakers. Dmac could turn out more than anyone expected with a great run game. our new WRs could turn out like no one expected etc etc.
i like the outlook of our team, but right now its probably the most unpredictable for right now. but i like the process.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
Pittsburgh the North you got me there either way the north only sends 1 to tough of a schedule and ravens will be back in the thick of it, they only get one!
Kifin was playing with left overs last year this is starting to be his team his imprint!
I understand what you are saying I'm not against the comparission I just gave my opinion you can agree or disagree?
We are closer to the 8-8 9-7 if the tie breakers fall right we are a wild card sd wins the west and chokes again in the playoffs the curse of norvelle turner is apon you!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
hey chris, go to NFL.com and look on there what kirk morrison says what he is seeing from JR this offseason on NFL total access, combined with of course what Kiffin has already said hes a totally different person. and then come tell me what you think, and remember compare Gannons first year in league not 12th as a Raider already established team.
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Mike Torpey about 1 year ago
I agree, we need to score fast and often !!! That's why I wanted to draft DMAC !!!! If we're scoring,other teams aren't going to just run every play. DMAC is going to change the whole game for us. If we hadn't taken him,K.C. probably would have. I would rather face Dorsey twice a year,than DMAC. DMAC will just blow by Dorsey,as he did when Arkansas played LSU !!!!! Get ready for good times in Oakland again.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
one thing is though, if your responding to me about getting facts right because of Frank, you need to go to my other Oline and Cable article, and see the guy who responded by saying he had read both Franks and my analysis and said i would have to say steve makes more sense.
Steve what about the others that said you don't get it like some have said here!
Don't use me to try to prove a point to someone I'm a far bigger fan and have an infinatly more Raider Knowledge then you do!
I repond to people with facts to back up what I think links to back up the fact that Raider Writers that get paid to do this think the same way as well!
You sit back and dismiss because you think so that's why people don't like you and get board very easily with your swiss cheese takes!
The 9er fan knew more about the raiders then you!
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
I read the 40 or so comments by chris and he has a much better grasp of the raiders then you!
I guegss the thing that is the most bothersome about you is you put things like this in your bio, If i believe in something im pretty avid about showing you the truth. Its not all opinion, alot is based on results and things ive seen that already happen.
Then you don't back it up with facts and/or logic and you make yourself no better then any of the talking heads that spew off retereck about the raiders that never go to a game, the highlight don't show the true game the broadcast dosen't show the true game going to the game shows the true game!
I wish you would go to more games and get a real perspective of the silver and black not the canned garbage of oppinions like the talking heads!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
get up with the times buddy. dont be so old fashioned, not going to games doesnt mean diddly squat in assessing gameplans, abilities and many other things. i dont need to go to games, and i dont live in the area and i have other responsibilities. the biggest crock is that someone doesnt know something because he doesnt recite exact facts or he hasnt been to a game, are you kidding me. ive been to games in the past and on TV you can see a nice close up and better angle instead of jiggling your binoculars around trying to see. thats pretty weak argument. you know ive already proved my point with facts but you wouldnt accept them so thats why stats dont matter.
you know why i believe what i do. because every time i say something that should or should not be done, Coaches and players say the exact same thing long after i already did. ill give you 2 examples from last year.
i said you need to press Moss all game long, dont let him off the line w/out puttin a hit on him. in the first 8 games of last season only one team kept Moss out of the end zone, it was Browns and Bolden did exaclty what i said should happen and he talked about exactly what i said.
another, by second game of season i said you need to rush Brady and forget about their run, if Brady even looks like hes going to hand off still go after Brady until you knock him down. later in the season when i believe it was the Eagles who finally rushed him, came close to winning. Ravens came close, then Giants did exactly that and whahla ended up winning the SB. So dont talk to me about meaningless stats and you have to go watch the game in person, cuz ive got gameplan and ideology about the NFL and other sports coming out of my ears. this stuff is overredundant to me, thats why i get frustrated when all you guys think you know what your talking about.
ill tell you what to prove it, when this season comes along i will bring up stuff before anyone else says it to prove my point, because i do this every season. my assessment about alot of different things are right on, and its not stuff thats that hard to see, just use logic and reasoning.
so tell me, not only did the Oline have a 3 game stretch with 1 sack but in 4 games they had only 3 sacks, and 2 games were against elite opponents with zero sacks. and dont give me any excuses because if were so bad like you say then theres no way we go w/out sacks at all, especially against elite opponents.
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Kevin Hart about 1 year ago
1) Great offensive minds that focus on precise passes and execution to open up big plays down field.
2) Both very young.
3) Both taking over bad teams.
4) (My favorite) 2 number four picks to change things around. C-Wood for Chucky and D-Mac for Kiffin.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
Going to the games sitting on the 47 yard line 11 rows up the best seats in the house you see what you want to see not what the camra man wants you to see!
If you have gone to any games you would ave realized that!
Example I want to watch sims give up sacks, false start and hold all year I can I don't have to follow the ball with the camra man like you at home!
Answer me this in return without opinion only facts!
Then answer why it's a concern for any Raider Fan!
(2) 5 sack games
(3) 4 sack games
and
we are suppose to believe that's not an issue?
3 game stretch with 1 sack ( when was this?)
I know they had a 3 game stretch with 0 sacks!
Indy had numerous injuries and was not playing their starters (again I was at the game) They were by no means elite!
Green Bay paid Dime Zone most of the game which got them Total Turnovers 3 and the ball for 7 more minutes add to that J. McCown only threw 15 times your're a bright boy figior it out!
Denver had the bal for almost 10 minutes shorter then us and that was because we had Total Turnovers 4 from them! Which meant J. McCown throwing the ball only 21 times to cutlers 32
By the way through that 3 game stretch we beat the broncos because of the turn overs lost to indy dispite having the ball for 7 mins longer without giving up any turnovers and got killed by the packers a lot to a very little!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
another thing people fail to realize im not promoting sims, im just stating some facts and the improvements, obviously theres problems with Sims otherwise he wouldnt be gone and im sure Cables assessment made this so. which also leads me to believe that Cable also knows somn about Harris.
also Frank you saying that sitting close to the field seeing what you want and not what the camera man shows. so tell me, what else is there other than a play being shown. do you actually watch TV. so when the camera is showing the play whats the other thing your going to see with Sims. they show plays. the only difference is you seeing the WRs down the field. but he line of scrimmage is a pretty compact part, and i have DVR so i can just go back and look, your logic is ridiculous. the way they do TV today you see alot, and with HD now you can see even more, and pretty soon theyll have a function that will have several different camera angles you can watch. i understand what your saying but its a useless argument nowadays. Maybe back in the day but today, you can definitely see alot due to replays which show closeups and different angles.
now for the Sacks. i looked up all the games with sacks. heres our best stretch in this order
KC 2 sacks given up, we won that game
broncs 1 sack given up, we won that game
colts 0 sacks, and only Freeney was the key not playing but the other guys were, and not getting sacks is a major accomplishment no matter which way you shake it
Packers 0 sacks, and considering we were behind that game, called for more passing. i havnt even looked it up, but ill bet that McCown wasnt the only one playing in that game and we had alot more pass attempts. you dont make up that ground running the ball to catch up. and that was the closest blowout game i think ive ever seen, score completely doesnt tell the story.
there were no stretches of 3 games with 0 sacks which would mean even better.
and we had only 1 sack given up against Texans who have a monster pass rush with Williams, oh and i guess that would mean he came on Sims side.
you know my points always end up getting proven w/out me trying. so just stop. were Raider fans just be happy with the progress.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
In case last year is too far removed for you 4-12. This is why Kiffin Said,"you only need to look at the last two games of the season to see how far we still have to go!
With 8 sacks and 8 turn overs and a 79- 28 point spead I see what he ment!
Do you?
Week Date Game Time (EST) Attendance Top Passer Top Rusher Top Receiver
1 Sep 09 DET 36 @ OAK 21 FINAL 61,547 OAK Josh McCown: 313Yds DET Tatum Bell: 87Yds OAK Ronald Curry: 133Yds
2 Sep 16 OAK 20 @ DEN 23 FINAL 76,784 DEN Jay Cutler: 269Yds OAK LaMont Jordan: 159Yds DEN Javon Walker: 101Yds
3 Sep 23 CLE 24 @ OAK 26 FINAL 51,075 CLE Derek Anderson: 248Yds OAK LaMont Jordan: 121Yds CLE Kellen Winslow: 88Yds
4 Sep 30 OAK 35 @ MIA 17 FINAL 70,621 MIA Trent Green: 158Yds OAK Justin Fargas: 179Yds MIA Ronnie Brown: 73Yds
5 Bye
6 Oct 14 OAK 14 @ SD 28 FINAL 67,523 OAK Daunte Culpepper: 229Yds SD LaDainian Tomlinson: 198Yds OAK Ronald Curry: 73Yds
7 Oct 21 KC 12 @ OAK 10 FINAL 62,240 OAK Daunte Culpepper: 228Yds KC Larry Johnson: 112Yds KC Dwayne Bowe: 84Yds
8 Oct 28 OAK 9 @ TEN 13 FINAL 69,143 OAK Daunte Culpepper: 167Yds TEN LenDale White: 133Yds OAK Jerry Porter: 46Yds
9 Nov 04 HOU 24 @ OAK 17 FINAL 49,603 HOU Sage Rosenfels: 181Yds HOU Ron Dayne: 122Yds OAK Jerry Porter: 55Yds
10 Nov 11 CHI 17 @ OAK 6 FINAL 62,715 CHI Rex Grossman: 142Yds OAK Justin Fargas: 81Yds CHI Bernard Berrian: 89Yds
11 Nov 18 OAK 22 @ MIN 29 FINAL 62,960 OAK Daunte Culpepper: 344Yds MIN Chester Taylor: 164Yds OAK Ronald Curry: 120Yds
12 Nov 25 OAK 20 @ KC 17 FINAL 76,210 OAK Daunte Culpepper: 170Yds KC Kolby Smith: 150Yds OAK Jerry Porter: 75Yds
13 Dec 02 DEN 20 @ OAK 34 FINAL 61,990 DEN Jay Cutler: 214Yds OAK Justin Fargas: 146Yds DEN Brandon Stokley: 102Yds
14 Dec 09 OAK 7 @ GB 38 FINAL 70,828 GB Brett Favre: 266Yds GB Ryan Grant: 156Yds GB Greg Jennings: 100Yds
15 Dec 16 IND 21 @ OAK 14 FINAL 62,000 IND Peyton Manning: 276Yds OAK Justin Fargas: 89Yds IND Anthony Gonzalez: 86Yds
16 Dec 23 OAK 11 @ JAC 49 FINAL 66,905 JAC David Garrard: 199Yds OAK Dominic Rhodes: 115Yds JAC Maurice Jones-Drew: 96Yds
17 Dec 30 SD 30 @ OAK 17 FINAL 61,706 OAK JaMarcus Russell: 224Yds OAK Dominic Rhodes: 122Yds OAK Zach Miller: 84Yds
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Andrew Butler about 1 year ago
I hate to tell you this but some things change since 2000, like having 4 all-sec lineman help Darren McFadden and Felix Jones makes running a lot easier, and a lot more misleading when you have an inconsitent qb at best for Arkansas, calling him the best overall talent in the entire NFL is a strong reach with the belief that everything he does will perfectly transition over to the NFL let alone the NFL draft. Much like how a strong work ethic that Peyton had back in 2000 will mean that every player who works out well will face strong improvements, reality is some people just aren't talented enough as I see players getting drafted in the first round who havent played football for 5 years yet. Also Peyton's offensive line has become one of the best, I wish the Raiders had that reputation but it's far from it. Second how much change do you expect to come from Darren McFadden when your offense already averages 130.4 rushing yards, the 6th best in the NFL, and that's without Michael Bush who could be as good as McFadden, so is it really worth over $8 million to add a rb to the 6th best backfield already with a star college rb yet to play and now add McFadden? when the Raiders have been horrible at stopping the run the past 3 or 4 years and after Warren Sapp's retirement things are supposed to come around on their own? Addressing your biggest weaknesses is a logical and effective choice, especially when its arguable that the other most talented player in the draft is right at your doorstep.
You could also argue that a good passing game makes the running game follow with the success of Peyton, Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Brett Favre it goes either way and the talent won't develop on it's own. Jamarcus Russell is a good qb, but he won't become one of the top 5 qb's just over 1 year,
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
andrew they ahve addressed improvements in the D line in the off season.
I'm sure you know that but you are forgetting them in your article.
Joseph and Sands combineto be the run stuffers Kelly and warren get after the qb and are better run stoppers then sapp was last year.
Dorsey was not a run stuffer that was evident when Run DMC ran by him numerous times to a huge game in death valley's victory!
I also think we could have added a DT run stuffer I liked laws from the golden dommers. With him beeing gone Frank Okam from texas would have worked but we addressed safety concerns as well as special teams with our 4th pick
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Kevin Hart about 1 year ago
Good point Frank... Who was the best talent? Ryan? Dorsey's D got ran all over by Mcfadden. That 6th in rushing was a bit misleading, considering we started first through like week 5 or 6. Playing Miami didn't hurt either cause we ran for over 200 yards that game, Culpep had a big rushing day there too. The Donks were one of the worst agianst the run and we got them twice.
D-Fad was a good pick. Time will prove it. Sapps strength had never been stopping the run, especially last year when he slimmed down.
BTW Andrew good lookin out about Jruss, he is a good QB. I respect that honest feedback. Most people wanna say that he is a bust already. Like those dingbat falcon fans that say they would rather have Ryan and for more money... yeah right
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
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Scoring Summary
1st Quarter
TD Tim Dwight, 15 yd pass from Josh McCown (Sebastian Janikowski kick is good), 8:07. Drive: 13 plays, 80 yards in 6:53
TD Travis Henry, 4 yd run (Jason Elam kick is good), 0:46. Drive: 13 plays, 83 yards in 7:21
2nd Quarter
TD Zach Miller, 13 yd pass from Josh McCown (Sebastian Janikowski kick is good), 0:50. Drive: 5 plays, 35 yards in 2:15
3rd Quarter
FG Sebastian Janikowski, 38 yd field goal , 12:40. Drive: 5 plays, 7 yards in 1:24
TD Jerry Porter, 13 yd pass from Josh McCown (Sebastian Janikowski kick is good), 10:55. Drive: 2 plays, 12 yards in 0:43
FG Jason Elam, 29 yd field goal , 7:25. Drive: 6 plays, 62 yards in 3:30
FG Jason Elam, 44 yd field goal , 1:37. Drive: 6 plays, 49 yards in 3:03
4th Quarter
TD Travis Henry, 3 yd run (Jason Elam kick is good), 11:21. Drive: 9 plays, 35 yards in 3:41
FG Sebastian Janikowski, 44 yd field goal , 8:56. Drive: 6 plays, 45 yards in 2:25
TD Justin Fargas, 5 yd run (Sebastian Janikowski kick is good), 3:04. Drive: 10 plays, 43 yards in 5:44
GAMEBOOK Denver Broncos (5-7-0)
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 14
By Rushing 7
By Passing 7
By Penalty 0
THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 7/15 - 46%
FOURTH DOWN EFFICIENCY 0/1 - 0%
TOTAL NET YARDS 292
Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 62
Average Gain per Offensive Play 4.7
NET YARDS RUSHING 86
Total Rushing Plays 29
Average Gain per Rushing Play 3.0
Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 1-1
NET YARDS PASSING 206
Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 1 - 8
Gross Yards Passing 214
PASS COMP-ATT-INT 16 - 32 - 2
Average Gain per Passing Play (includes Sacks) 6.2
KICKOFFS (Number-In End Zone-Touchbacks) 5 - 2 - 2
PUNTS (Number-Average) 2 - 45.0
Blocked 0
Net Punting Average 37.0
FGs BLOCKED - PATs BLOCKED 0 - 0
TOTAL RETURN YARDAGE (excludes Kickoffs) 10
Punt Returns (Number-Yards) 1 - 10
Kickoff Returns (Number-Yards) 6 - 74
Interception Returns (Number-Yards) 0 - 0
PENALTIES (Number-Yards) 5 - 25
FUMBLES (Number-Lost) 2 - 2
TOUCHDOWNS 2
Rushing 2
Passing 0
Interceptions 0
Kickoff Returns 0
Fumble Returns 0
Punt Returns 0
EXTRA POINTS (Made-Attempted) 2 - 2
Kicking (Made-Attempted) 2 - 2
Two Point Conversions (Made-Attempted) 0 - 0
FIELD GOALS (Made-Attempted) 2 - 2
RED ZONE EFFICIENCY 2/4 - 50%
GOAL TO GO EFFICIENCY 2/2 - 100%
SAFETIES 0
FINAL SCORE 20
TIME OF POSSESSION 25:40
Oakland Raiders (4-8-0)
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS 20
By Rushing 8
By Passing 10
By Penalty 2
THIRD DOWN EFFICIENCY 6/15 - 40%
FOURTH DOWN EFFICIENCY 0/2 - 0%
TOTAL NET YARDS 372
Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 69
Average Gain per Offensive Play 5.4
NET YARDS RUSHING 175
Total Rushing Plays 41
Average Gain per Rushing Play 4.3
Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 3-4
NET YARDS PASSING 197
Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 0 - 0
Gross Yards Passing 197
PASS COMP-ATT-INT 18 - 28 - 0
Average Gain per Passing Play (includes Sacks) 7.0
KICKOFFS (Number-In End Zone-Touchbacks) 7 - 1 - 1
PUNTS (Number-Average) 1 - 63.0
Blocked 0
Net Punting Average 53.0
FGs BLOCKED - PATs BLOCKED 0 - 0
TOTAL RETURN YARDAGE (excludes Kickoffs) 23
Punt Returns (Number-Yards) 2 - 16
Kickoff Returns (Number-Yards) 3 - 85
Interception Returns (Number-Yards) 2 - 7
PENALTIES (Number-Yards) 3 - 20
FUMBLES (Number-Lost) 4 - 1
TOUCHDOWNS 4
Rushing 1
Passing 3
Interceptions 0
Kickoff Returns 0
Fumble Returns 0
Punt Returns 0
EXTRA POINTS (Made-Attempted) 4 - 4
Kicking (Made-Attempted) 4 - 4
Two Point Conversions (Made-Attempted) 0 - 0
FIELD GOALS (Made-Attempted) 2 - 4
RED ZONE EFFICIENCY 4/5 - 80%
GOAL TO GO EFFICIENCY 1/1 - 100%
SAFETIES 0
FINAL SCORE 34
TIME OF POSSESSION 34:20
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
J. Cutler 16/32 214 0 2
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
T. Henry 15 49 2 9
S. Young 7 28 0 9
J. Cutler 6 9 0 4
C. Sapp 1 0 0 0
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
B. Stokley 3 102 0 58
B. Marshall 6 67 0 32
T. Scheffler 1 17 0 17
S. Young 2 17 0 10
J. Walker 1 7 0 7
C. Sapp 3 4 0 2
Fumbles FUM LOST REC YDS
J. Cutler 1 1 0 -7
T. Henry 1 1 0 0
N. Webster 0 0 0 0
D. Williams 0 0 1 0
Kicking FG LG XP PTS
J. Elam 2/2 44 2/2 8
Punting NO AVG I20 LG
T. Sauerbrun 2 37.0 1 57
Kickoff Returns NO AVG TD LG
T. Jacobs 3 11 0 15
C. Sapp 2 15 0 22
S. Young 1 9 0 9
Punt Returns NO AVG TD LG
D. Bly 1 10 0 10
Defense T-A SCK INT FF
D. Williams 13-3 0.0 0 0
N. Webster 10-1 0.0 0 1
J. Engelberger 5-0 0.0 0 0
J. Lynch 5-1 0.0 0 0
H. Abdullah 3-2 0.0 0 0
C. Bailey 3-0 0.0 0 0
T. Crowder 3-1 0.0 0 0
I. Gold 3-0 0.0 0 0
E. Dumervil 2-0 0.0 0 0
S. Adams 1-0 0.0 0 0
D. Bly 1-0 0.0 0 0
N. Ferguson 1-0 0.0 0 0
J. Mallard 1-0 0.0 0 0
A. McKinley 1-0 0.0 0 0
K. Paymah 1-0 0.0 0 0
K. Peterson 0-1 0.0 0 0
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
J. McCown 14/21 141 3 0
J. Russell 4/7 56 0 0
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
J. Fargas 33 146 1 29
J. McCown 4 22 0 11
J. Russell 3 4 0 4
L. Jordan 1 3 0 3
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
Z. Miller 3 58 1 26
J. Porter 5 49 1 16
R. Curry 3 34 0 20
J. Griffith 4 23 0 13
J. Fargas 2 18 0 13
T. Dwight 1 15 1 15
Fumbles FUM LOST REC YDS
T. Dwight 1 0 1 0
J. Fargas 1 1 0 0
J. McCown 1 1 0 0
J. Russell 1 0 1 -8
T. Brayton 0 0 1 0
C. Clemons 0 0 1 0
Z. Miller 0 0 1 0
R. Thomas 0 0 0 0
Kicking FG LG XP PTS
S. Janikowski 2/4 44 4/4 10
Punting NO AVG I20 LG
S. Lechler 1 53.0 0 63
Kickoff Returns NO AVG TD LG
C. Carr 3 28 0 38
Punt Returns NO AVG TD LG
T. Dwight 2 8 0 16
Defense T-A SCK INT FF
K. Morrison 8-3 0.0 0 0
T. Howard 5-2 0.0 1 0
D. Burgess 4-1 0.0 0 0
W. Sapp 4-1 0.0 0 0
R. Thomas 4-1 0.0 0 1
H. Eugene 3-1 0.0 0 0
M. Huff 3-1 0.0 0 0
N. Asomugha 2-0 0.0 0 0
J. Richardson 2-0 1.0 0 0
S. Routt 2-1 0.0 0 0
T. Brayton 1-0 0.0 0 0
T. Sands 1-0 0.0 0 0
F. Washington 1-0 0.0 1 0
C. Carr 0-1 0.0 0 0
G. Warren 0-1 0.0 0 0
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
somebody has a little too much time on their hands. and whats the point of this post, somebodys confused.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
the only sack in that game was by Jay richardson that plays for the Raiders last I checked!
Cable also started Sims all year as well........
The team knew they needed an upgrade and Kry me a river is the best you can get!
Adams was out there and if you tell me Sims or Harris are better pass blockers then Adams this conversation is over because you don't know football and how to analyze it!
Do you really think we wouldn't be better off with Adams protecting JR's blindside?
This would be the difference between sneeking in the playoffs at best and winning the west and hosting the first playoff game in the Net since we went to the superbowl!
That is huge and we are going to have to go to Jacksonville as our first round game and they will win 27-23.
That's how much of a difference that could make!
Or we could be the 2 seed hosting a game at the net after a 1st week buy!
I can now only hope Al can pull a miracle out of his a$$ from the June 1st cuts tomorrow!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
like i said im not promoting Sims, or anyone. just Cable, i believe he watches more than you and has access and has been around involved in the action proving himself. so when you are going against me your essentially going against Cable. Sims obviously wasnt that great or Cable wouldnt have let him go. but dont ever talk like you know about analyzing because you fail to see the analysis of Harris. Dont ever talk to me about not being able to analyze cuz you still havnt shown me. here ill give you a chance tell me why they selected Harris even though he wasnt that great with the 9ers. if you cant do it then this conversation is over cuz itll prove the level of insight you have. analysis has nothing to do with bringing up useless stats. stats help but thats not what you use to analyze. lets see you analyze w/out numbers, cuz thats what its about and i have too much insight for you to ever understand. i already said a couple examples that ive said that players or coaches did or said with gameplanning lonnng before they said anything.
but dont sit there and tell me Adams is the answer, because then you havnt got a clue. it takes a team working as a unit and building chemistry. the evaluation of Cable got Gallery into his rightful spot looking like a probowler. you can go to games and watch all the tape you want, but youve obviously overdone it because its melted your brain.
listen were both Raider fans, just be happy with the progress and stop dwelling on one thing. the most important position on the field is QB, and the best in the world cant win w/out the overall team effort. what was Peytons record first year in league. and Tom Brady only won because of the overall team and of course refs help and now spygate most likely. Big Ben did well because of good run game and good D. dont just mindlessly say if i say Harris is better than Adams then i dont know anything about football. Cable knows a whole lot more than you and apparently has already expressed that with Harris and Harris is eager to play now. you havnt even seen that OTs that mightve been selected would not be even what the general public would see. because they have more inside info than you.
ill say one thing Harris is alot more athletic than Sims, but its not necessarily about finding the best, its about finding the best fit. the 1980 olympic hockey team was assembled with the best fit not the best players, cuz even the so called best players with the NHL allstar team got crushed by the soviets. which is a prime candidate to defeat your theory that Adams is better than Harris. but maybe hes not a better fit, and only time will tell but dont ever come at me with this stuff like your better analyzer cuz you bring up stats not analysis. all you say is ive seen Sims hes terrible, wheres the analysis in that.
im not your enemy relax dude. i outanalyze countless fans like you with better stuff than you bring. because i say what the coaches and players say long long after they do, with analysis of games.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
and Frank i get very tired of the same old over redundant stuff that keeps being said. its like a little kid doing the same annoying thing over and over again. bring some new insight, dont just say someones better. give me why hes better, like i said its about the best fit not necessarily what you consider the best player. Maybe Adams is much better, but is he the right fit. Randy Moss wasnt the right fit for us, but he goes to pats and has best numbers ever, why. because chemistry was already built with pats before he got there. Harris may become a great fit because hell be taught the right thing by one coach rather than alot of coaches trying to tell him 50 different things, which is exactly why Gallery had problems before last year. Yes Gallery isnt playing the LT like he was supposed to, but they found things why it was harder for him. but now hes able to focus on one thing and did a fine job. if that can happen with Harris, which i believe it can, hes got the athletic ability to be great. wasnt he originally thought to be a probowler when he came out. its all about the coaching, dont believe me, see 1980 USA olympic hockey team.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
The conversation is over since you still don't answer any questions with fact and actually hide behind what you think.. Cable thinks!
You are a complete waste of time and it is easy to see why a 9er fan kicked your no evaluating a$$ all over the page of your article go to a game and learn what you are missing and try not to act like you have a clue you have proven nothing Again!!!!!!!!!!!!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
believe what you want, but now your taking a rival fans side whose just there to stir up trouble. actually your the waste of time because you harp on the same thing and still havnt answered my challenge. dude your the joke. you say you go to games, well apparently you dont know how to evaluate, or have any insight. ive never had a Raider fan try to dog me and side with a rival fan, thats pitiful, you must not be a real Raider fan. You cant even have a logical reasonable conversation.
so tell me Genius, Barry Sims was on the team that went to the SB. now i believe hes lost it and hes no longer what he was, but ill bet that Barret Robbins going pshyco, kinda like you, was a big reason we lost. do you even understand the importance of the Center. hes a big key to keeping the D offbalance. a big problem last year was Newberry tipping off the D with his movements. he did alot of the same thing and the D would be able to anticipate alot. that makes it pretty hard for the Tackles to block when they get a good jump off the line. but you knew that right. Wade is going to be a bigger factor than Harris. if he does well at center Harris will even be able to do better.
and btw why is it that another fan said that i make more sense than you and call out that whiner fan. its amazing what people will believe what they want because theyve just been toasted. the funny thing is that the 9er fan mikey totally made a wrong fact when i didnt even go and look it up till later and proved my point. you know what he said, that in that 3 game stretch of 1 sack or no sacks that 2 were against chefs and broncs and another worthless team that we just dumped the ball all day long lol. go see for yourself buddy, and actually one site was wrong it was 0 sacks for the 3 game stretch against broncs, packers, and colts. not only did he completely blow it, but made up stuff and i didnt even look till later and blew that fact out of the water and your going with him. your a bigger loser than i could even imagine. you can go to all the games and watch all the tape you want, some people dont even get that they dont get it, sorry to say your one of them. go be a 9er fan im sure mikey will make you feel good lol. pitiful. i dont want a fellow Raider fan thats so ignorant and acts like that. please join another team, youve got no place here. i stick up for my Raiders you just go all over the place. from saying Kiffin is a great coach yet doubting our moves. unbelievable. could you be any more contradictory.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
Frank, why dont you go look at the first several posts from my article, and then look at the first few posts to your is there a tackle in the house article and tell me what you see.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
proof why Frank is a legend in his own mind. Now Frank you can either be a good Raider ally, which will benefit you, or if you oppose me you will die with the rest, because one thing that i know is people reap what they sow, and you calling me out like you have, when youve been wrong, will come back to haunt you. If you mess with the best youll die like the rest. and i have only said that to trolls who bag on the Raiders, its pretty sad your treading on the same waters.
hey i had nothing against you, you brought this on yourself.
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FRANK YRAY about 1 year ago
acting like you have a clue you have proven nothing Again!!!!!!!!!!!!
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
according to you. your like the Israelites who turned from God after he proved right in front of their eyes the parting of the red sea. now thats some serious denial, your treading on the same waters. ha thats funny, that pun just came out. lol.
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steve tripe about 1 year ago
hey Frank looking at it again, i understand why they took Harris over Adams. lets see if you do. theres a difference between wanting what you want and understanding why they are doing what they are doing.
and Frank you can whine all you want but the Raiders are doing what their going to do. you can either accept it and try to find the positive or be another fan of another team. be a colts fan, or a pats(except for spygate thing now), or just bandwagon the team that does what you want to happen.
i understand what Kiffin and Cable etc are doing, do you. and the only thing that counts right now is what they do, you have no say in the teams operations, so just deal with it.
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