Torre Finally Loves Matt Kemp, Maybe Because Last Year, He Was Better Than Jeter
Today, former manager and MLB executive Joe Torre identified his former outfielder, Matt Kemp, โThe best player in the game at this point.โ
This was a generous thing for Torre to do given that, as he admits in the linked interview, he and Kemp didnโt always get along; Kempโs rise to near-MVP status would seem to be directly linked to having gotten out from under old Joe.
Torre may feel that way because, by the standards of Baseball-Reference wins above replacement (WAR), Kempโs 2011, which was worth an even 10 wins, would have been, by a very slight margin, the best season Torre ever managed.
In his 1997 book, The Bill James Guide to Baseball Managers, Bill James created career All-Star teams for several prominent managers. Torre was not among them, and for good reasonโhis careerโs second act had just begun, and it was too soon to think of him as a future Hall of Famer. He was close as a hitter and not yet there as a manager. Now that the jowly oneโs career has wrapped, I decided to pick up where James left off and make a best-of for Torreโs 30-year career.
I kept the statistics simple so as not to overwhelm you; normally, I wouldnโt make a big deal of hitter runs or RBIs or pitcher won-lost records, but in this case, they somehow seemed to be called for.
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Pos | Player | G | R | HR | RBI | BB | AVG/OBP/SLG | WAR |
C | Jorge Posada, 2003 | 142 | 83 | 30 | 101 | 93 | .281/.405/.518 | 6.1 |
1B | Tino Martinez, 1997 | 158 | 96 | 44 | 96 | 75 | .296/.371/.577 | 5.2 |
2B | Robinson Cano, 2007 | 160 | 93 | 19 | 97 | 38 | .306/.353/.488 | 5.6 |
3B | Alex Rodriguez, 2007 | 158 | 143 | 54 | 156 | 95 | .314/.422/.645 | 9.9 |
SS | Derek Jeter, 1999 | 158 | 134 | 24 | 102 | 91 | .349/.438/.552 | 8.0 |
LF | Bernie Williams, 1998 | 128 | 101 | 26 | 97 | 74 | .339/.422/.575 | 6.1 |
CF | Dale Murphy, 1983 | 162 | 131 | 36 | 121 | 90 | .302/.393/.540 | 7.2 |
RF | Paul OโNeill, 1998 | 152 | 95 | 24 | 116 | 57 | .317/.372/.510 | 6.0 |
DH | Jason Giambi, 2002 | 155 | 120 | 41 | 122 | 109 | .314/.435/.598 | 7.3 |
Note that I pushed Bernie Baseball to left field so he wouldnโt be bumped by Dale Murphy. Torre never had a really strong left fielder (Hideki Matsuiโs 2007 was probably the closest), so this seemed like a reasonable solution.
Now the pitchers:
Pitcher | W-L | SV | IP | H | BB | SO | ERA | WAR |
SP Andy Pettitte, 1997 | 18-7 | 0 | 240.1 | 233 | 65 | 166 | 2.88 | 7.6 |
SP David Cone, 1997 | 12-6 | 0 | 195.0 | 155 | 86 | 222 | 2.82 | 6.7 |
SP Mike Mussina, 2001 | 17-11 | 0 | 228.2 | 202 | 42 | 214 | 3.15 | 6.5 |
SP Bob Tewksbury, 1992 | 16-5 | 0 | 233.0 | 217 | 20 | 91 | 2.16 | 6.0 |
SP Craig Swan, 1978 | 9-6 | 0 | 207.1 | 164 | 58 | 125 | 2.43 | 5.7 |
RP Mariano Rivera, 1996 | 8-3 | 5 | 107.2 | 73 | 34 | 130 | 2.09 | 5.4 |
Note that Mariano shows up in his set-up man incarnation here; 107.2 great innings, even if theyโre eighth innings, are more valuable than 80 great innings, even if theyโre ninth innings. ย


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