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CINCINNATI - DECEMBER 26:  Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals throws a pass during the NFL game against the San Diego Chargers at Paul Brown Stadium on December 26, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals 34-20.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
CINCINNATI - DECEMBER 26: Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals throws a pass during the NFL game against the San Diego Chargers at Paul Brown Stadium on December 26, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals 34-20. (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)Andy Lyons/Getty Images

NFL Trade Talk: Why the Seattle Seahawks Shouldn't Trade for Carson Palmer

Marci NobleMay 15, 2011

Pete Carroll and John Schneider surprised and disappointed many fans by neglecting to take a quarterback in April’s draft.  With veteran free agent Matt Hasselbeck’s negotiations with the team unfinished due to the NFL’s lockout, and mostly untested acquisition Charlie Whitehurst alone on the depth chart, offseason rumors are flying.

Among the favorite rumors is the possibility of a reunion between Carroll and Cincinnati’s disgruntled starter, Carson Palmer.  Sure, they share the USC tie and Palmer’s style shows potential in a West Coast-style offense.

Palmer’s relationship to Carroll, though, is not enough to outweigh the myriad of reasons Palmer would be a bad fit in Seattle.

Supporting Cast

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CHICAGO, IL - JANUARY 16:  Wide receiver Mike Williams #17 of the Seattle Seahawks makes a catch as he is tackled by Lance Briggs #55 of the Chicago Bears in the second quarter of the 2011 NFC divisional playoff game at Soldier Field on January 16, 2011 i
CHICAGO, IL - JANUARY 16: Wide receiver Mike Williams #17 of the Seattle Seahawks makes a catch as he is tackled by Lance Briggs #55 of the Chicago Bears in the second quarter of the 2011 NFC divisional playoff game at Soldier Field on January 16, 2011 i

In Cincinnati, Palmer was lucky enough to be surrounded by an All-Star cast for the entirety of his career. 

Chad Ochocinco’s tenure with the Bengals surpasses Palmer's. Palmer benefited from TJ Houshmandzadeh’s thousand-yard presence in 2006 and 2007 as well as Chris Henry’s impressive sophomore performance around the same time. Just last season Palmer was throwing to Terrell Owens along with up-and-coming rookies Jermaine Gresham and Jordan Shipley. 

And yet, in his eight seasons with the Bengals Palmer has seen only two short-lived postseasons.

Naturally, Palmer, toting a laundry list of noteworthy accomplishments, would be frustrated with his lack of success in Cincinnati. 

Seattle’s roster, though, lacks the talent to give Palmer the nucleus he needs to succeed. 

Every position is a work in progress.  The receiving corp highlights the talents of Mike Williams, who caught Palmer’s passes one season at USC but earns media attention now as a surprise comeback story rather than an NFL star. 

The O-line is still under construction and will be relying heavily on two vicious rookies and the talents of oft-injured sophomore player Russell Okung for blocking.  Just these two areas juxtaposed with the team Palmer is accustomed to illustrate the likelihood that Palmer would struggle in Seattle.

Loyalty

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CINCINNATI, OH - DECEMBER 19:  Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals calls a play at the line of scrimage while playing the Cleveland Browns at Paul Brown Stadium on December 19, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio.  (Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty
CINCINNATI, OH - DECEMBER 19: Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals calls a play at the line of scrimage while playing the Cleveland Browns at Paul Brown Stadium on December 19, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. (Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty

With all the heartbreak he would likely encounter performance-wise upon his arrival in the Emerald City, Palmer’s frustration would simply mount.  What’s to stop Palmer from retiring from Seattle, leaving the Seahawks without options rather than the Bengals?

Plus, Carroll’s “Always Compete” mentality would not guarantee Palmer the starting job, which may frustrate Palmer further since he has started perpetually since taking over for Jon Kitna in 2004.

Elbow Injury

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INDIANAPOLIS - DECEMBER 07:  Injured quarterback Carson Palmer of the Cincinnati Bengals looks on from the sideline against the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium on December 7, 2008 in Indianapolis, Indiana.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
INDIANAPOLIS - DECEMBER 07: Injured quarterback Carson Palmer of the Cincinnati Bengals looks on from the sideline against the Indianapolis Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium on December 7, 2008 in Indianapolis, Indiana. (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

An elbow injury early in the 2008 season sidelined Palmer for the year.  He chose to forego Tommy John surgery in favor of letting the elbow heal on its own and returned in time for the 2009 season. 

While Palmer had some standout games that season, ultimately his stats fell dramatically from where they sat in the prior seasons and were not significantly more consistent throughout the Bengals' 4-12, 2010 season.

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2009 Playoff Appearance

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EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - NOVEMBER 25:  Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals is tackled for a safety by Trevor Pryce #93 of the New York Jets at New Meadowlands Stadium on November 25, 2010 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The Jets defeated t
EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - NOVEMBER 25: Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals is tackled for a safety by Trevor Pryce #93 of the New York Jets at New Meadowlands Stadium on November 25, 2010 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The Jets defeated t

In the season following Palmer's elbow injury, the Bengals managed to finish 10-6 and made it to the playoffs only to fall to the New York Jets

More noteworthy to that season than Palmer’s return was the sudden improvement of the team’s defense.  In 2008, Cincinnati’s defense ranked 19th overall.  In 2009, following the sudden October passing of defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer’s wife, the same defense inexplicably jumped to sixth overall to give the team the support it needed to make the playoffs. 

In the 14-24 loss in the wild-card round, Palmer went 18-of-36 for just 146 yards, one touchdown and an interception and illustrated the defense’s greater contribution to the season.

Age

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CINCINNATI - NOVEMBER 21:  Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals walks off of the field after throwing an interception late in the fourth quarter of the Bengals 49-31 loss to the Buffalo Bills at Paul Brown Stadium on November 21, 2010 in Cincinnati,
CINCINNATI - NOVEMBER 21: Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals walks off of the field after throwing an interception late in the fourth quarter of the Bengals 49-31 loss to the Buffalo Bills at Paul Brown Stadium on November 21, 2010 in Cincinnati,

Palmer is 31.  Hardly more a long-term option than Hasselbeck and especially Whitehurst.  Already hampered by inconsistencies following his elbow injury, Palmer is surely past his seasons of high productivity.

Time

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BALTIMORE, MD - JANUARY 2:  Head coach Marvin Lewis of the Cincinnati Bengals coaches against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium on January 2, 2011 in Baltimore, Maryland. The Ravens defeated the Bengals 13-6. (Photo by Larry French/Getty Images)
BALTIMORE, MD - JANUARY 2: Head coach Marvin Lewis of the Cincinnati Bengals coaches against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium on January 2, 2011 in Baltimore, Maryland. The Ravens defeated the Bengals 13-6. (Photo by Larry French/Getty Images)

Cincinnati’s front office will not publicly entertain the notion of trading Palmer and declined his request as far back as January.  There is no guarantee that they won’t call his bluff and test his resolve to retire.  The smart thing to do would be to deal this disgruntled player for some sort of return, but a front office like that of the Bengals would surprise no one by taking the other approach.

Once the lockout is lifted, the most significant deals will be finished in the first 24 hours.  Spending time courting the Bengals for an option that may not exist could result in Seattle missing an opportunity that could be a difference-maker for the team. 

It would be in Seattle’s best interest to explore more promising options first.

Contract

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CHICAGO, IL - JANUARY 16:  Quarterback Matt Hasselbeck #8 of the Seattle Seahawks reacts while taking on the Chicago Bears in the 2011 NFC divisional playoff game at Soldier Field on January 16, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois.  (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty
CHICAGO, IL - JANUARY 16: Quarterback Matt Hasselbeck #8 of the Seattle Seahawks reacts while taking on the Chicago Bears in the 2011 NFC divisional playoff game at Soldier Field on January 16, 2011 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty

The main reason, presumably, that Hasselbeck and Seattle have not come to terms is money.  Hasselbeck reportedly wants to be paid more than Tennessee’s Kerry Collins, who gets about $7 million per year despite his 2010 contract that gave him just under $6 million.  Palmer is due $11.5 million in each of the next two seasons, $13 million in 2013 and $14 million in his final season before becoming a free agent in 2015. 

Though we all know Paul Allen can afford it, absorbing a whopping contract like that would be too great a risk for a short-term investment that may or may not perform.

Matt Leinart

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JACKSONVILLE, FL - NOVEMBER 14:  Matt Leinart #9 of the Houston Texans looks on before a game against the Jacksonville Jaguars at EverBank Field on November 14, 2010 in Jacksonville, Florida.  (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)
JACKSONVILLE, FL - NOVEMBER 14: Matt Leinart #9 of the Houston Texans looks on before a game against the Jacksonville Jaguars at EverBank Field on November 14, 2010 in Jacksonville, Florida. (Photo by Mike Ehrmann/Getty Images)

If Carroll were to go the USC alumni route, why not go with Matt Leinart?  Leinart is younger, more groomable and desperately needs the job.  Since his short-lived time as Kurt Warner’s replacement in Arizona, he has fallen from his Heisman-winning heights to the ranks of journeyman QB-2s in the NFL

Even if Carroll couldn’t re-create in Leinart the spark he once played with, he would be at least as good as Whitehurst and provide Carroll with the competition he craves at that position.

Kevin Kolb

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PHILADELPHIA - OCTOBER 17:  Kevin Kolb #4 of the Philadelphia Eagles passes a touchdown to Jeremy Maclin #18 in the third quarteragainst the Atlanta Falcons during their game at Lincoln Financial Field on October 17, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  (
PHILADELPHIA - OCTOBER 17: Kevin Kolb #4 of the Philadelphia Eagles passes a touchdown to Jeremy Maclin #18 in the third quarteragainst the Atlanta Falcons during their game at Lincoln Financial Field on October 17, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (

If Seattle’s front office really would rather trade for a QB than sign a free agent, Philadelphia’s Kevin Kolb may be on the market. 

Only 27 years old and having competed in one of the best divisions in the NFL, Kolb brings a high level of talent to the table. Kolb already knows the system offensive coordinator Darell Bevell will be using in Seattle, plus Kolb would be a guaranteed upgrade from Whitehurst and could be a long-term option. 

Philly won’t give him up for cheap, but with the right combination of draft picks and personnel, an acquisition like Kolb (whose contract for 2011 calls for just $1.392 million) would be worth the price.  The worry here, is Carroll’s sometimes habit of overpaying for players (see: Whitehurst, Carpenter, etc).

Whitehurst’s Week 17 Performance

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SEATTLE, WA - JANUARY 02:  Head coach Pete Carroll of the Seattle Seahawks hugs quarterback Charlie Whitehurst #6 after defeating the St. Louis Rams 16-6 at Qwest Field on January 2, 2011 in Seattle, Washington. The Seahawks became the first team to advan
SEATTLE, WA - JANUARY 02: Head coach Pete Carroll of the Seattle Seahawks hugs quarterback Charlie Whitehurst #6 after defeating the St. Louis Rams 16-6 at Qwest Field on January 2, 2011 in Seattle, Washington. The Seahawks became the first team to advan

Speaking of Whitehurst, it may not be time to write him off just yet. 

In Week 17 against the Rams, Carroll tailored the game plan to Whitehurst’s specific skill-set and as a result, the inexperienced fifth-year player led the Seahawks to clinch a playoff spot. 

Perhaps, if Whitehurst were given more opportunities like that, the fanbase of the Pacific Northwest would see more consistency from him and more of what Carroll and Schneider saw in him in the first place.  Bringing in another QB option to take the snaps would only hamper Whitehurst’s potential progress.

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