Mike Freeman's 10-Point Stance: Put a Fork in the Giants; They're Done

Mike Freeman@@mikefreemanNFLNFL National Lead WriterOctober 4, 2017

TAMPA, FL - OCTOBER 01: Eli Manning #10 of the New York Giants reacts as he leaves the field after a game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Raymond James Stadium on October 1, 2017 in Tampa, Florida. The Bucs defeated the Giants 25-23. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)
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We're a quarter of the way through the season, and Brandon Marshall and the Giants are done, there are questions about Joe Flacco, and the Patriots defense is a mess. What is going on around here?


1. Giant Problems

I reached out to several Giants players this week, and the response I got was...interesting. 

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

And these are guys who always text back. I tried one of the coaches, also a reliable respondent. Again, nothing. Seems the Giants have engaged their caterpillar drive.

This type of silence is usually a bad sign. It often means people don't want to talk because they might say too much.

The Giants are 0-4, and the chaos inside that locker room must be extreme. This is a proud organization that, unlike some other franchises, despises losing on a genetic level. These aren't the Chargers. Giants owner John Mara, the son of the legendary Hall of Fame owner Wellington, is a mild-mannered man but is as competitive a person as there is in football.

What's happened? This isn't a mystery to people around the league, who say they see an Eli Manning who looks old and an offense that doesn't have a lot of talent outside of Odell Beckham Jr.

The most scathing criticism, however, is focused on the signing of Brandon Marshall to be the team's No. 2 receiver. He was supposed to ease double-teams on Beckham, but he hasn't. Not even close. On the contrary, Marshall has hurt the offense significantly because of how much he has slowed down and how unreliable he has become as a pass-catcher.

"I think it's over for Brandon," one team executive told B/R. "I think it was over for him last year."

Marshall himself acknowledged he's "just not playing well right now," per ESPN.com's Jordan Raanan. "I haven't played a solid game since I've been here."

TAMPA, FL - OCTOBER 1:  Wide receiver Brandon Marshall #15 of the New York Giants is hit by cornerback Brent Grimes #24 of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers during a carry in the second quarter of an NFL football game on October 1, 2017 at Raymond James Stadium in
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To blame all the woes on Marshall, though, would be foolish. There is essentially a talent drain across the offense, with the exception of one player.

The Giants haven't scored a single point in the first quarter this season and have trailed by at least 10 points in each game so far. Sometimes, the problem isn't all that complicated to diagnose.

The Giants don't make personnel changes easily. This is an organization that's had just three general managers since the 1980s. Still, most NFL team sources interviewed believe that if the Giants don't make the playoffs this season, there will be massive overhaul of the coaching staff and possibly the front office. The franchise is loyal, but only to a point.

Mara isn't going to take kindly to a team that started 0-4 and didn't make the playoffs. He's patient and fair but not that patient and fair. And if the team loses this week to a winless Chargers club...hoo boy.

It may already be too late. Only one team ever has started 0-4 and made the playoffs: the 1992 Chargers.

"We've got to get that first win, and you go from there. You never know what can happen," said Manning, via James Kratch for NJ.com. "We still feel like we're a good team that can win a lot of games.

"Well, let's make history and be the second team. That's the only thing we can worry about. ... Let's give ourselves a chance. No one knows what's going to happen, but if we don't start winning soon, we will know what's going to happen."


2. Is Joe Flacco Still Elite?

BALTIMORE, MD - OCTOBER 01: Quarterback Joe Flacco #5 of the Baltimore Ravens is sacked by defensive end Cameron Heyward #97 of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the third quarter at M&T Bank Stadium on October 1, 2017 in Baltimore, Maryland. (Photo by Patrick M
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Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco long has been honest and blunt. It's one of many things I've always liked about him. And he didn't edit himself when B/R reached him after a loss to the Steelers in which he threw two picks and looked terrible, as he has for much of this season.

"I sucked," Flacco told me. "I mean, you know, it wasn't good."

Flacco finished with a 64.6 passer rating. But the truth is, Flacco hasn't looked good in a while.

Of course, Flacco isn't the sole reason for the Ravens' offensive woes. But he's the quarterback, and that means he gets most of the credit when the offense rolls, and the blame when it struggles.

And why has he struggled? I can't pinpoint one reason, based on interviews with players who have gone against him. But there is a general feeling that Flacco, while doing himself no favors, also hasn't been served by Baltimore's mediocre offensive weapons.

This isn't to say there are no options, but rather that there's no Rob Gronkowski or Todd Gurley walking through that door at M&T Bank Stadium.

That is as big a problem for the Ravens as Flacco.


3. When in Baltimore, Do as the Raven Once Did

Many opposing players, when in Baltimore, now imitate the famous (or infamous) Ray Lewis celebration after they make a good defensive play. They mock it, actually.

But no one has explained why they do it as well as Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier, who mimicked the Lewis dance after he intercepted Flacco on Sunday.

"We're in Baltimore, and I wanted to celebrate Ray Lewis-style," Shazier said. "Our goal is to be the No. 1 defense, and Ray Lewis has a great legacy of being a great defensive player. Plus, he always had a great rivalry with the Steelers. At the same time, I tried to make the home team a little mad, because it feels pretty good to win."


4. Where Cooler Heads Prevail

BALTIMORE, MD - OCTOBER 01:  Fans stand during the national anthem before the Baltimore Ravens take on the Pittsburgh Steelers at M&T Bank Stadium on October 1, 2017 in Baltimore, Maryland. (Photo by Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images)
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After Ravens and Steelers players heard boos in Baltimore when some Ravens knelt and prayed before the national anthem played, both sides reacted in a manner that was measured and smart.

"We knew it was possible that we were going to get [booed]," Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs said. "We just wanted to show to our fans that we still do stand in solidarity. We don't want [anyone] to lose the narrative of why we're doing it. We don't want people to think that we're disrespecting the flag or military, or anything like that. It was pretty much that we still wanted to show solidarity."

Said Ravens tight end Benjamin Watson: "It's their prerogative to boo or not boo. Fans pay for their ticket, and they get to say what they want to say. We decided as a team to just have a moment of silence with everything that's going on. We wanted to pray for unity, we wanted to show the unity amongst each other, and that's what we decided to do."

And after making news in Week 3 when he alone stood for the anthem outside the Steelers tunnel, left tackle Alejandro Villanueva tried to find some perspective after a tumultuous few weeks in the NFL: "At this point, this whole kneeling or standing up is a much bigger issue than what we're asking for as a league. We're trying to be conscious of social issues. We're also trying to be respectful of the flag. ... I respect every single player in the NFL. Every single citizen has their rights. I am not into the politics of the game. I'm just a football player."


5. Move the Chains, Win the Games

CARSON, CA - OCTOBER 01:  LeGarrette Blount #29 of the Philadelphia Eagles runs the ball down field during the game against the Los Angeles Chargers at StubHub Center on October 1, 2017 in Carson, California.  (Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)
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The Eagles offense is rolling. It ranks third in total yards through Week 4 and seventh in points per game.


It is converting on third downs, that's why. It's (partly) that simple.

Against the Chargers on Sunday, the Eagles converted nine of 16 third-down opportunities, or 56.3 percent. The Eagles say that is the team's ninth-highest third-down conversion rate since 1991.

In 2017, Philly has converted 30 of 59 third downs, or 50.8 percent, and has been successful on at least 50 percent of its third-down attempts in three of the first four games of the season. The last time the Eagles accomplished that feat in as many games was in 1992 (all four games).

Move the chains, and you score points. Pretty easy to digest. And if the Eagles keep this up, they'll keep being hard to beat.


6. It's Elementary

HOUSTON, TX - OCTOBER 01:  Deshaun Watson #4 of the Houston Texans scrambles in the second half Tennessee Titans at NRG Stadium on October 1, 2017 in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Tim Warner/Getty Images)
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I'll get into why Deshaun Watson has been so good so fast soon, but first take a look at his passer ratings this season:

  • Week 1: 60.4
  • Week 2: 75.9
  • Week 3: 90.6
  • Week 4: 125.0

According to B/R research, the Texans quarterback became only the third rookie passer in NFL history with four or more passing touchdowns and one or more rushing touchdowns in a single game, joining Fran Tarkenton and Johnny Green.

It's early, and there will be bumps in the road, but clearly Watson gets it.


7. What Is Going On in New England?

FOXBORO, MA - OCTOBER 01:  Head coach Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots reacts during the game against the Carolina Panthers at Gillette Stadium on October 1, 2017 in Foxboro, Massachusetts.  (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)
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Here's another gem from B/R research: The Patriots are the only team in the NFL to give up 250 or more passing yards in each of their first four games this season.

This has to infuriate Bill Belichick. Before anything, Belichick is a defensive genius, the best mind on the subject in the history of the sport. As the defensive coordinator for the Giants, he devised the scheme that stopped the unstoppable Bills passing game in Super Bowl XXV.

This is all a way of saying no one should expect the defensive woes of the Patriots to last long. Belichick won't let them.


8. Shields Up

The scene was incredibly odd. Marshawn Lynch, the Raiders veteran running back, took a seat on the bench during the anthem Sunday, as he has done before. This time, however, he was surrounded by team staffers trying to block the view.

Then, Monday night, cornerback Kenneth Acker sat on the bench during the anthem, in protest, when one of his teammates attempted to shield him from an ESPN camera.

The motivation behind the shielding tactic is a mystery to me. My best guess is that players don't want images of their sitting used against them, but they also had to know that these images would be used against them.


9. Is That Mike Singletary? Nope, but Myles Jack May Be Getting Close

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One of the things scouts told me when linebacker Myles Jack came out of UCLA in 2016 was that his skill set would remind me of Hall of Famer Mike Singletary.

That's waayyyyyy too high a compliment for such a young player, of course. Singletary was a beast who destroyed running games.

Still, Jack is doing some amazing things in Jacksonville. This piece of data from Pro Football Focus says it all:

No, Jack isn't Singletary, but he's doing a nice impression.


10. A Question For You...

I'm going to ask a question. Don't get mad. Don't get snippy. Don't send me nasty notes. OK, here it goes.

This past week, two things happened that caused very different reactions in my social media nerd universe. The first was when Steelers receiver Antonio Brown beat the crap out of a Gatorade cooler. He was obliterated on social media for being a spoiled brat.

On the opposite end of the country, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers completely wigged out. Rivers has done this before. He can be a petulant child.

On my Twitter feed I found two different reactions. It's anecdotal, but I think if you polled all sports fans they would have the same reactions. On one hand, Brown was considered a punk. On the other, Rivers was hailed as a competitor.

When Terry Bradshaw was going over highlights on Fox, he said this: "The reason we're showing you this is to show you how selfish receivers can be. [Ben] Roethlisberger doesn't throw it to Brown. Brown pitches a fit. Acts like the spoiled brat that he probably is. And I'd sit him, I guarantee, for at least one play."

So, now to my question: Why were the actions of Brown and Rivers viewed so differently?

Shoot me a note on Twitter, and I'll address this next week in this spot.

And be civil.


Mike Freeman covers the NFL for Bleacher Report. Follow him on Twitter: @mikefreemanNFL.


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