MLB's All Time Top Starting Rotations — Where Will The 2011 Phillies Fit In?

David RushCorrespondent IFebruary 19, 2011

MLB's All Time Top Starting Rotations — Where Will The 2011 Phillies Fit In?

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    SAN FRANCISCO - OCTOBER 21:  Roy Halladay #34 of the Philadelphia Phillies throws a pitch against the San Francisco Giants in Game Five of the NLCS during the 2010 MLB Playoffs at AT&T Park on October 21, 2010 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Ezra
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    The 2011 Major League Baseball season has not as of yet seen pitch one, but already there is speculation the fantastic Philadelphia five (Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt, Cole Hamels and Joe Blanton) can accomplish things that align them with the greatest starting staffs of all time, if not plant them firmly atop the list.

    While it's hard to argue with the collective resumes of that coming, City of Brotherly Love rotation, Major League Baseball has had no shortage of great starting groups amidst its glorious past and rather than give you a glossy look at recent rotations who have imprinted themselves on our Johnny-Come-Lately baseball consciousness we've put together an accounting that reaches back to the days of the Great Bambino—when he was still chucking that is, for a Boston Red Sox nine that won World Championship Titles in 1912, 1915, 1917 & 1918.

    To garner perspective we've implemented a ratings system with a base of 70-100 points residual to term of dominance not exclusive of bonus and subtraction points all of which you'll come to understand as we go through the individual staffs. 

    For now though let's just get into it and see if by subject's end we can come to any kind of a consensus on the single best starting rotation in the history of Major League Baseball. 

1912-1918 Boston Red Sox

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    Rotations will inevitably vary from year to year, and that's certainly the case with the pitching rich Boston Red Sox of the pre-"Curse of the Bambino" era.

    They won four World Titles in six years beginning in 1912—the year of Smoky Joe Wood, a Beantown flamethrower who the great Walter Johnson once coined as the hardest thrower of his era.

    Wood went 34-5 with a 1.91 ERA and 258 K's—the rest of the 1912 staff as follows:

    Buck O'Brien 20-13  2.58 ERA

    Hugh Bedient 20-9    2.92 ERA

    Ray Collins 13-8       2.53  ERA

    Charley Hall 15-8      3.02  ERA

    Unfortunately the 22-year-old Wood's right arm was pretty well blown to bits by the season's massive workload (344 innings, 35 complete games) and while the staff held up pretty well in 1913 and 1914, it wasn't until 1915, with a slew of fresh arms in place, that the Sox won their second title of the decade.

    Rube Foster  19-8  2.11

    Ernie Shore  19-8   1.64

    Babe Ruth    18-8    2.44

    Dutch Leonard   15-7  2.36

    Joe Wood   15-5   1.49   (Even with the bad arm. What a career the man might have had!) 

    Ruth won 23 in 1916, hard throwing right-hander Carl Mays joined the staff and won 18 as all five starters won 14 games or more en route to another Word Series win for the Red Sox.

    1917         (2nd Place)

    Ruth         24-13   2.01

    Leonard    16-17   2.19

    Mays        22-9    1.74

    Shore       13-10   2.22 

    Foster        8-7    2.53

    And finally in 1918, with the Bambino beginning his transition to full-time outfielder—he went 13-7 with a 2.22 ERA in 19 starts, 18 of them CGs while batting .300 with 11 HRs and 66 RBI—the Red Sox won their fourth and final ring for endless years to come with the rotation combining for 73 wins, 102 complete games, 24 shutouts and a collective ERA of 2.20. 

    For their extended period of individual and collective staff dominance—four years or more—the 1912-1918 Red Sox earn 100 points. For each of their four World Series Rings they earn 10 points, or an additional 40 points.

    They get a downward adjustment of 20 points for chucking in the deadball era which should speak upon the concerns of any reader who blindly asserts this group from long ago cannot be fairly measured against the starting rotations of the past 40 or 50 years.

    Staff Score 120 

1929-1931 Philadelphia Athletics

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    Led by all-time great Lefty Grove, the Philadelphia Athletics made three straight World Series appearances, winning in 1929 and 1930 and narrowly edged out 4-3 by the St. Louis Cardinals in 1931.

    Grove went an incredible 79-15 over that three year span, his best stretch in an illustrious Hall of Fame career. 

    Six pitchers got starts in 1929, all had double digit wins with Grove, George Earnshaw, (24-8), and Rube Walberg combining for 62. 

    In 1930 Grove won 28, Earnshaw another 22, en route to their second straight World Series win, 4-2 over the Cardinals, and in 1931 Grove went 31-4, Earnshaw 21-7, Walberg 21-12, while newcomer Roy Mahaffey pitched in at 15-4.

    For their three year dominant run in one of the most competitive eras the game has ever known, the 1929-1931 A's earn 90 points. Two World Series rings earn them another 20. Grove's three year run of extraordinary dominance adds an additional 10. 

    Staff Score 120

1934-1935 St. Louis Cardinals

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    Actually the Cards had plenty of pitching in 1930 and 1931 as well, when they battled the A's in back-to-back World Series, but we chose 1934 and 1935 as a means to best represent the very brief but iconic period Dizzy Dean and his younger brother Paul made their bones together in the historic Major League city. 

    The Cardinals had finished fifth in the National league in 1933, but 23-year-old Diz—20-18 that year—promised big things to come in 1934 when he would be joined by his far less outspoken sibling. 

    And the Dean brothers came through. Diz won 30, Paul went 19-11, (only brother tandem to top 40 wins in a Major League season), and the two, with a little help from the able trio of Tex Carlton (16 wins),  Bill Hallahan and Bill Walker—20 wins between them in a combined 45 starts—flew all the way past the Detroit Tigers en route to a taut 4-3 Series win for St, Louis's finest.

    In 1935 the Dean's combined for 47 wins (Walker and Hallahan another 28), but the Cards finished 96-58, four games shy of the Chicago Cubs for the National League Pennant.

    By 1936 Paul's arm was shot, in 1937 Dizzy Dean tried to come back too soon from a toe injury that affected his throwing motion and his career was dramatically curtailed as well.

    But for those two seasons the Dean brothers led one of the best starting rotations in the game's storied past. They get 80 points for the two year run, 10 points for the World Series win, and another 5 points for Dizzy's 30 win season in 1934.

    Staff Score 95

1951-1954 New York Yankees

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    With all the big bats booming, the Yanks are rarely mentioned when it comes to the best in mound affairs, but this group from 1951-1954 was about as good as any four or five-man starting rotation over an extended period.

    We'll let the numbers do the talking, starting with 1951:

    Vic Raschi   21-10   3.27 ERA

    Eddie Lopat  21-9    2.91 ERA

    Allie 'Big Chief' Reynolds  17-8   3.05 ERA

    Tom Morgan  9-3     3.68 ERA  

    (Combined for 55 complete games and 17 shutouts as the Yank's won the first of four consecutive World Championship Titles).


    Reynolds  20-8   2.06

    Raschi     16-6    2.77

    Lopat       10-5    2.53

    Morgan      5-4    3.07


    Whitey Ford   18-6    3.00

    Vic Raschi     13-6    3.32

    Eddie Lopat    16-4    2.42

    (Jim McDonald, Allie Reynolds, and one time Milwaukee Brave great, Johnny Sain, combined for a 36-21 mark in dual starter/reliever roles.)  


    Whitey Ford    16-5   2.82

    Bob Grim        20-6   3.26

    Eddie Lopat    12-4    3.55

    Tom Morgan   11-5    3.34

    Harry Byrd        9-7    2.99

    Summary: 100 points for the four year run, 40 bonus points for the four consecutive rings.

    Staff Score  140

1954-1956 Cleveland Indians

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    Only a past his prime Bob Feller keeps this from being one of the top two or three starting rotations of all time. 

    In 1954 the Indians went an incredible 111-43 but caught the red hot Willie Mays and the NY Giants in the World Series and were unceremoniously swept 4-0. 

    Early Wynn and Bob Lemon won 23 games apiece, stud right-hander Mike Garcia went 19-7 with five shutouts, 26-year-old Art Houtteman went 15-7, and even at the age of thirty five Bob Feller went 13-3 with an ERA only slightly over 3.00.

    Had the awesome quintet completed their historic regular season, it would have been hard to displace their single season excellence, and even with the loss to the Giants this is still one of the top starting fives to ever grace the game.

    In 1955 it was more of the same as Wynn, Garcia and Lemon were joined by the ill fated, left-handed flamethrower Herb Score. The four combined to go 62-44 as the Indians finished second In the AL.

    The following year Wynn, Lemon and Score all won 20, but the Indians once again finished secnd in the AL behind the Yanks. At the tender age of 23, Herb Score in particular had a season for the ages going  20-9 with a 2.53 ERA, 249 innings, 162 hits allowed and 263 strikeouts.  

    But in May of 1957, Score was hit in the face by a line drive off the bat of Yankee infielder Gil McDougald. The damage turned out to be irreparable and Score's career for all intents and purposes was over.

    The Indians faded from there and it wasn't until 1995 in a losing effort against the Atlanta Braves that the Cleveland made it back to another World Series. 

    For the three year run the Cleveland rotation earns 90 points. They earn 10 points for having three 20-game winners in 1956, but those are negated by the four game sweep at the hands of the Giants in 1954.

    Staff Score 90  

1961-1963 New York Yankees

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    The early '60's New York Yankees will forever be remembered as the M&M boys for the tremendous combined exploits of Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris, but if not for the club's tremendous pitching, the three straight World Series appearances from '61-''63 would have never materialized. 

    1961  —  109-53   Win World Series 4-1 over Cincinnati Reds

    Whitey Ford     25-4    3.21 ERA   209 K's

    Bill Stafford     14-9     2.68

    Ralph Terry      16-3    2.58

    Rollie Sheldon  11-5    3.60

    1962  —  99-66   Win World Series 4-3 over San Francisco Giants

    Ralph Terry    23-12   3.19

    Whitey Ford   17-8     2.90

    Bill Stafford    14-9     3.67

    (Jim Bouton and Rollie Sheldon combine for the balance 32 starts.)

    1963  —  104-57   Swept 4-0 in World Series by Los Angeles Dodgers

    Whitey Ford    24-7      2.74 

    Ralph Terry     17-15    3.22

    Jim Bouton     21-7     2.53 

    Al Downing     13-5     2.56

    Three dominant years, 90 points. Two World Series wins, 20 points. Dodger sweep in '63, minus 10. Whitey Ford, Cy Young in 1961, plus 5 points. 

    Staff Score 105

1962-1963, 1965-1966 Los Angeles Dodgers

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    The Dodgers won 101 games in 1962, finishing second behind their arch rival San Francisco Giants. 

    It was the year of Don Drysdale. The big righty went 25-9 with a 2.83 ERA, threw 19 complete games, two shutouts, had 232 Ks in 314 innings en route to the Cy Young, which at that time was still awarded to one Major League pitcher per season.

    Sandy Koufax was finally beginning to harness his mercurial stuff going 14-7 with a 2.54 ERA and 216 Ks against 57 walks in 184 innings.  Young veterans Johnny Podres and Stan Williams rounded out the front four with 29 victories between them.   

    In 1963, en route to a 4-0 Series sweep over the vaunted Yankees, the great Koufax won the first of three Cy Young's when he compiled a 25-5 record, a 1.88 ERA, 20 complete games, an incredible 11 shutouts and 306 Ks in 311 innings. 

    It was arguably the greatest single-season performance—to date—of the modern era. Drysdale won 19, had a 2.63 ERA, and Johnny Podres won 14, five of them shutouts. Bob Miller and Pete Richert split the balance of the starts and won 15 between them.

    1964 was an off year for everyone but Koufax, but the staff returned in full force in 1965 when the offensively challenged Dodgers won their second Series in three years, this time 4-3 over the hard hitting Minnesota Twins.

    Koufax went 26-8 with a 2.04 ERA, threw 27 complete games, eight of them shutouts and struck out a record 382 batters. Drysdale went 23-12 with a 2.77 ERA, seven shutouts and 210 Ks. 

    Claude Osteen joined the foursome, won 15 games with a 2.79 ERA and Johhny Podres went 7-6 in the 22 starts that weren't eaten up by the big three.  

    In 1966 Koufax won 27 games, had a 1.73 ERA and 317 Ks. The rest of the staff, Drysdale, Osteen and by now Don Sutton, were solid but had difficulty overcoming a Dodger offense that hit .256, averaging about 3.5 runs per game. That trend continued into the World Series where the anemic Dodgers were shutout three times—twice losing 1-0—as they were swept 4-0 by the Baltimore Orioles.

    Four dominant years, 100 points, two World Series wins 20 points, 10 point deduction for the '66 Series sweep at the hands of the Orioles (although Dodger starters only allowed ten runs), 20 points for the four Cy Youngs between Drysdale and Koufax, and another 10 points for the staff's incredible productivity in the face of the perpetually inept Dodger offense. 

    Staff Score 140

1967-1969 Detroit Tigers

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    Sandwiched second place finishes in '67 and '69 around a thrilling 4-3 Series win in 1968 over the similarly pitching rich St. Louis Cardinals. 

    In 1967, Earl Wilson, Denny McLain, Joe Sparma and the portly left-hander Mickey Lolich won 21, 17, 16, and 14 games respectively. They threw a combined 44 complete games, 14 of them shutouts, six by Lolich. 

    In 1968, the baseball world avidly followed the progress of Denny McClain as the talented righty became the first major leaguer to win 30-plus games since Dizzy Dean did it in 1934. McClain finished 31-6, 1.96 & 280 K's while Lolich went 17-9, 3.19 with 197 K's, Earl Wilson 13-12, 2.85 and Sparma finished flat at 10-10.   

    1969: McClain 24-9, 2.80 with 181 K's. Lolich 19-11, 3.14 with 271 K's. Wilson and Sparma combined for 18 wins.

    The superb three year run counts for 90 points. The World Series win in 1968, 10 points. McClain's 1968 and 1969 Cy Young awards add another 10 points. 

    Staff Score 110

1967 and 1968 St. Louis Cardinals

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    The Card's made two straight World Series appearances, topping the Red Sox 4-3 in 1967 and falling to the Tigers 4-3 in 1968.

    1967 Result:  

    Dick Hughes      16-6   2.67    

    Steve Carlton     14-9   2.98      

    Ray Washburn   10-7   3.53

    Bob Gibson       13-7    2.98    (Only 24 starts)  

    Larry Jaster        9-7    3.01

    In 1968 Bob Gibson had one of the top two or three seasons in the history of Major League baseball going 22-9 with an almost impossible to believe 1.12 ERA. In 34 starts, he had 28 complete games and 13 shutouts. He struck out 268 batters.

    The rest of the staff:

    Nelson Briles    19-11   2.81

    Steve Carlton   13-11    2.99

    Ray Washburn  14-8     2.26

    Larry Jaster       9-13    3.51

    For the two dominant seasons, 80 points. One World Series win, 10 points. 5 bonus points for Gibson's Cy Young in 1968. 

    Staff Score 95

1969 and 1973 New York Mets

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    They were the Miracle Mets of 1969, joining the New York Jets and New York Knicks in what amounted to a near unbelievable Championship Trifecta for the trio of Metropolitan wonders.

    The Knicks and Jets had at least shown signs of improvement in the seasons leading up to that extraordinary year. The expansion Mets had never even approached a .500 record, losing 100 games or more five times before winning 100 in '69.

    They were led by an unrelenting starting rotation. Tom Seaver went 25-7 and won the first of three Cy Young awards. The Kooz, Jerry Koosman was the perfect left-handed compliment to the ace right-hander going 17-9 with a 2.28 ERA.

    Hard throwing 22-year-old, Gary Gentry, went 13-12 with a 3.43 ERA while Don Cardwell and Jim McAndrew pitched well in the four and five spots, adding 14 wins to the pile. 22-year-old Nolan Ryan was on the staff as well, got 10 starts and went 6-3 with a 3.53 ERA in a dual starter/long reliever role.

    The Mets pitched their way past the powerhouse Orioles in the '69 Series and while they continued to get great efforts out of the starting staff in the years that immediately ensued, the club was utterly punchless on the offensive side and never anything more than a .500 group leading up to and including 1973 when they caught a break and won the National League East with only 82 wins.   

    From there the combination of Seaver, Koosman and young lefty Jon Matlack pitched the Mets past the powerful Cincinnati Reds and then to a six game standstill against the defending World Champion Oakland A's. 

    They lost the decisive Game 7 as the A's jumped on Matlack for four early runs and prevailed 5-2.

    The Mets get 70 points for their single superlative season, 10 points for their '69 Series win over the Orioles, 10 points for a pair of Seaver Cy Youngs, and another 10 for pitching their way to within a game of the big prize in '73 against two of the best teams in the modern era.

    Staff Score 100 

1969-1973 Baltimore Orioles

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    One of the all-time teams went to three straight World Series, losing to the Miracle Mets 4-1 in 1969, taking the Reds 4-1 in 1970, and losing a 4-3 heartbreaker to Clemente and the Pirates in 1971. 

    Over the entitled five-year span, the Orioles starting pitching was as impressive as any team in the history of the game.

    Check the numbers:


    Mike Cuellar   23-11  2.38     Five Shutouts

    Dave McNalley   20-7  3.22     Four Shutouts

    Tom Phoebus   14-7   3.52      Two Shutouts

    Jim Palmer   16-4   3.60     Six Shutouts


    Jim Palmer   20-10  2.71   17 CG   5 SHO

    Mike Cuellar   24-8   3.48    21 CG   4 SHO

    Dave McNally   24-9  3.22     16 CG   1 SHO

    (Jim Hardin & Tom Phoebus combined for 40 starts and 11 wins)


    Jim Palmer   20-9   2.68

    Mike Cuellar   20-9   3.08

    Pat Dobson    20-8   2.90

    Dave McNally   21-5   2.89

    (Combined for 60 complete games and 12 shutouts)


    Jim Palmer    21-10   2.07    3 SHO

    Pat Dobson  16-18   2.65     3 SHO

    Mike Cuellar   18-12   2.57     4 SHO

    Dave McNally   13-17   2.95    6 SHO

    (Combined for 60 complete games)

    1973 — Lost ALCS to Oakland 3-2  

    Jim Palmer   22-9   2.40

    Doyle Alexander   12-8    3.86

    Mike Cuellar   18-13   3.27

    Dave McNally  17-17   3.21

    (63 complete games, 10 Shutouts)

    For the five mind-boggling seasons, 100 points. Three 20-game winners in 1970 and 1971, 20 points. Four 20-game winners in 1971, 20 points. World Series win in 1970, 10 points. Cuellar 1969 Cy Young, 5 points. Palmer 1973 Cy Young, 5 points.

    Staff Score 160

    ** The Orioles continued to pitch and win throughout the '70's and had four Cy Young winners aside from those posted above. Palmer in '75 & '76, Mike Flanagan in 1979 and Steve Stone in 1980.  

1971-1974 Oakland Athletics

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    One of the best teams of the modern era, the A's won consecutive World Championships in 1972, 1973 and 1974 before being broken up by the combined advent of free agency and the neurotic, penny pinching ways of owner Charles Finley. 


    Vida Blue  24-8  1.82   24 CG  8 SHO   301 K's 

    Catfish Hunter   21-1   2.96   16 CG   4 SHO   181 K's 

    Chuck Dobson   15-5   3.81

    Diego Segui    10-8   3.14

    Blue Moon Odom  10-12  4.29  


    Catfish Hunter  21-7    2.04

    Ken Holtzman  19-11   2.51

    Blue Moon Odom  15-6   2.50

    Vida Blue   6-10   2.80

    Dave Hamilton   6-6    2.93   

    (Combined for 46 complete games and 15 shutouts)


    Ken Holtzman  21-13   2.97

    Vida Blue    20-9   3.28

    Catfish Hunter   21-5   3.34

    (Odom & Dave Hamilton go 11-16)


    Catfish Hunter   25-12   2.49

    Vida Blue  17-15   3.25

    Ken Holzman  10-17   3.07

    Dave Hamilton   7-4  3.15 

    Four years running, 100 points. Three World Series titles, 30 points. Three 20-game winners in 1973, 10 points. Vida Blue (1971) and Catfish Hunter (1974) Cy Young's, 10 points.

    Staff Score 150    

1985-1986 New York Mets

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    In 1985 the Mets began to reemerge in the National League behind a great group of young arms that came together all at once. 

    The finest of the lot was the 20-year-old, Dwight 'Doc' Gooden. In a season that ranks amongst the best in Major League history, he went 24-4 with a 1.53 ERA, threw 16 complete games, eight shutouts and struck out 268 batters in 276 innings. 

    Ron Darling    16-6    2.90    167 K's

    Sid Fernandez   9-9   2.80     180 K's

    Rick Aguilera    10-7   3.24

    Ed Lynch   10-8    3.44

    In 1986 everything came together as the Mets crashed the World Series party for only the third time in franchise history, coming back to beat the Boston Red Sox 4-3 after Bill Buckner's unforgettable between the legs existence-altering miscue gave the New Yorkers life in Game 6. 

    Doc Gooden   17-6  2.84

    Ron Darling     15-6   2.81

    Sid Fernandez    16-6   3.52

    Rick Aguilera    10-7   3.88

    Bob Ojeda     18-5   2.57

    Two running seasons, 80 points. World Series win, 10 points. Doc Gooden Cy Young, 5 points.

    Staff Score  95

One Year Wonders: The 1962 San Francisco Giants and the 2003 Florida Marlins

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    The 1962 Giants won the NL Pennant against stiff competition but lost a tough World Series 4-3 to the NY Yankees.

    Billy O'Dell      19-14   3.53  

    Jack Sanford   24-7    3.43

    Juan Marichal  18-11   3.36

    Billy Pierce      16-6    3.49

    (58 Complete games, nine shutouts)

    Staff Score 70 

    The 2003 Marlins got hot late and rode the wave of a fire-balling young staff to a 4-2 World Series win over the Yankees. 

    Carl Pavano      12-13   4.30

    Brad Penny       14-10   4.13

    Mark Redman    14-9     3.59

    Dontrelle Willis   14-6     3.30

    Josh Beckett       9-8     3.04

    Staff Score   80 

1991-1999 Atlanta Braves

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    Of all the teams we've reviewed the Atlanta Braves—for all their extended success and more than occasional heart wrenching failure—are the toughest to put into context. 

    From 1991 to 1999, which we'll utilize as their peak period, the team participated in five World Series, losing four, winning 4-2 over the Cleveland Indians in 1995.

    That they get their 100 points for four-plus dominant seasons goes without saying. Six Cy Young Awards adds another 30 points. The World Series win in '95 adds 10 points.

    Attending five World Series in eight seasons ('94 strike shortened) earns another 10 points. Losing four of those World Series might easily negate that gain but we'll let it pass. 

    Staff Score 150

2009-Present San Francisco Giants

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    ARLINGTON, TX - NOVEMBER 01:  Starting pitcher Tim Lincecum #55 of the San Francisco Giants pitches against the Texas Rangers in Game Five of the 2010 MLB World Series at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington on November 1, 2010 in Arlington, Texas.  (Photo by Do
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    It's too soon to truly rate them in an historical context but the present day San Francisco Giants show all the signs of a potential pitching dynasty if they can keep their four young studs: Tim Lincecum, (two-time Cy Young Award winner), Matt Cain, (as good a young arm as exists in the game), and the slick lefty tandem of Jonathan Sanchez & Madison Bumgarner together.

    They were tough in 2009 and won it all in 2010. If you throw in Lincecum's pair of Cy Young's they already have an adjusted Staff Score of 100. 

    And there's nowhere to go but up from here. 

How Fabulous Can The Phillies Be?

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    PHILADELPHIA - DECEMBER 15: Pitcher Cliff Lee #33 of the Philadelphia Phillies adjusts his hat after being introduced to the media during a press conference as Philadelphia Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. (L) looks on at Citizens Bank Park on Dec
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    What they've done separately in the past does not count toward what they might accomplish together in the immediate or extended future so this year's presumably fantastic Philadelphia Five will start fresh. 

    In terms of a projection the best you can do—at least for a start—is look at their numbers in 2010:

    Roy Halladay   21-10   2.44     219 K's   Cy Young

    Cliff Lee          12-9     3.18     185 K's

    Roy Oswalt     13-13    2.76    193 K's

    Cole Hamels    12-11   3.06     211 K's

    Joe Blanton       9-6     4.82     134 K's 

    There's no reason to think this group can't add 10-12 wins to the above 67-49 record. On the other hand, baseball can be a fickle game and an injury here or there, a sign of age from Oswalt, regression from Hamels, continued mediocrity out of Blanton, and things might not turn out quite as well as expected in 2011.

    In truth there's no guarantee the Phillies will suit up a better starting rotation than the Giants in 2011 or beyond. They were wiped out last year in the NLCS and Lee was punished in a Texas uniform in the battle between the leagues that followed. 

    It makes for some excellent drama in the season to come as there's every reason to think the two may meet up again when this year's NLCS rolls around. 

    Final Rankings on following slide.

Ranking the Top Rotations in MLB History

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    1) Baltimore Orioles           1959 - 1973         160 Points 

    2) Oakland Athletics           1971 - 1974        150 Points

    2) Atlanta Braves               1991 - 1999         150 Points

    4) Los Angeles Dodgers      62,63,65,66         140 Points

    4) New York Yankees         1951 - 1954         140 Points

    6) Boston Red Sox             1912 - 1918         120 Points

    6) Philadelphia A's              1929 - 1931         120 Points

    8) Detroit Tigers                 1967 - 1969          110 Points  

    9) New York Yankees         1961 - 1963          105 Points

    10) New York Mets             1969 - 1973          100 Points

    10) S.F. Giants                   2009-present        100 Points

    12) St. Louis Cardinals        1934 - 1935            95 Points

    13) St. Louis Cardinals        1967 - 1968            95 Points

    14) Cleveland Indians          1954 - 1955            90 Points

    15) Florida Marlins               2003                      80 Points

    16) S.F. Giants                    1962                      70 Points

    Not an easy list to crack, much less ascend, and this years climb for the much hyped Philadelphia Phillies five man rotation begins April 1 at Citizens Bank Park.  

    The City of Brotherly Love will no doubt be primed for the event — ready to kick the 2011 season off with a bang and they'll more than likely be looking for a pitching gem too.

    We'd say the odds are in their favor.

    And that's it for today,