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The Stats Don't Lie, Week 10: Ben Roethlisberger vs. Carson Palmer

Steve Smith
Nov 10, 2009

In recent weeks I have made frequent use of stats to try to draw comparisons between Steeler players and the opposing team's defense. So here goes Big Ben against the Bengals pass defense and Carson Palmer against the Steeler's pass defense:

Ben Roethlisberger vs. Cincinnati Pass Defense

ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Completion %ย ย  Att/Gmย ย ย ย ย  Ydsย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Avg/Compย ย  20 yds+ย ย ย  Sacks

Cincinnati ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  62.8%ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  36 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1,933ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  7.2ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  27 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  21

Roethlisberger ย ย ย  70.6%ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  32.8ย ย ย ย ย  2,295 ย  ย  ย  ย  8.8 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  31 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  QB Rating ย ย  Yds/Gm ย  ย  ย ย  Pts/Gm ย ย 

Cincinnati ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  81.6ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  241.6ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  16.9

Roethlisberger ย ย  104.1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  286.9ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  24.4

and

Carson Palmer vs. Pittsburgh Pass Defense

ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Completion %ย ย  Att/Gmย ย ย ย ย  Ydsย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Avg/Compย ย  20 yds+ย ย ย  Sacks

Pittsburgh ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  59.9%ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  37.1 ย ย ย ย ย  1,716ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  6.3 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  18 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  23

Palmer ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย ย  ย ย ย  61.5%ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  32.5 ย ย ย ย ย  1,832 ย  ย  ย  ย  7.0 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  22 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย 

ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  QB Rating ย ย  Yds/Gm ย  ย  ย ย  Pts/Gm ย ย 

Pittsburgh ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  77.2ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  214.5 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  17.4

Palmer ย  ย  ย  ย  ย  ย ย  ย ย ย ย  89.5ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  229 ย  ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  22.5

Now a comparison of the same QB's and the result of like matchups:

Cincinnati has seen the following QBs and these QB's have put up the following numbers:

QBย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ratingย ย ย ย  C/ATTย ย ย  Ydsย ย ย ย ย ย ย  TDย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Int

Orton ย  ย  ย  ย  ย ย ย ย ย  100.7ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  17/28 ย ย  243ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0

Rodgersย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  83.4 ย  ย  ย ย ย ย ย  21/39 ย ย  261 ย ย  ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0

Roethlisberger ย ย  95.6 ย  ย  ย ย ย  22/31 ย ย  276ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Andersonย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  68.8ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  26/48ย ย ย  269 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Flaccoย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  70.1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  22/31ย ย ย  186ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  2

Schaub ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  124.2ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  28/40 ย ย  392ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  4 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Cutler ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  64.1ย  ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  26/37 ย ย  251 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  3

Flacco ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  48.3ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  18/32ย  ย  195 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  ย ย  0 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  2

Pittsburgh has seen the following QBs and these QB's have put up the following numbers:

QBย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ratingย ย ย ย  C/ATTย ย ย  Ydsย ย ย ย ย ย ย  TDย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Int

Collinsย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  81.1 ย ย ย ย ย  22/35 ย ย ย ย  244 ย ย  ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Cutler ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  104.7ย  ย ย ย  27/38 ย ย ย ย ย  236ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  2ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0

Palmer ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  76.7ย ย ย ย ย ย  20/37 ย ย ย ย  183ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0

Rivers ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  107.9ย  ย ย ย ย  21/36 ย ย ย ย  254 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  3ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0

Culpepperย ย ย ย ย ย  83.4ย ย ย ย ย ย  23/37 ย ย ย  ย  282 ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Andersonย ย ย ย ย ย ย  51.0ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  9/24ย  ย ย  ย ย  122ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Favreย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  76.8ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  33/50ย ย ย ย ย ย  334ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  1

Orton ย  ย  ย  ย  ย ย ย  43.9ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  23/38 ย ย ย  ย ย  221ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  0ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  3

So here is the comparison of the like QB's against the pass defenses:

Cincinnati

Avg Ratingย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Completions ย  ย  ย ย  Attempts ย  ย  ย ย  Yds ย  ย  ย  ย  TD ย  ย  ย  Int

Pittsburgh

Avg Ratingย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Completions ย  ย  ย ย  Attempts ย  ย  ย ย  Yds ย  ย  ย  ย  TD ย  ย  ย  Int ย ย ย ย ย 

So who has the upper hand?

I think the Pittsburgh passing game will win this matchup because they are gelling very well and have all their weapons. The Bengal's just lost Chris Henry and I think that will hurt them.

For a running game comparison check out the other stat comparison article: The Stats Don't Lie, Week 10: Rashard Mendenhall vs. Cedric Benson