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Civilized Hatred: Hating the Team and Not the Fans

Ryan StaabAug 4, 2008

I hate Michigan.ย 

Being a fan of Ohio State, this is expected.ย 

I also hate Penn State, Illinois, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan State, and Purdue.

Yeah, theyโ€™re in โ€œmyโ€ conference, but on any given Saturday in autumn, they play โ€œmyโ€ team.ย  As notoriously pessimistic as I am about the Buckeyes, there is no other school I would consider rooting for in college football.

By that logic, I also hate the Gators, LSU, and USC, just for spending five years in the Trojan bandwagon hell that is Orange County. Trying to find a Trojan fan in Orange County that doesnโ€™t just like the team because โ€œthey win a lotโ€ is like trying to ask Lee Corso to stop picking winners by wearing the foam heads of mascots on โ€œGame Day.โ€

Does that mean I hate Gator, Tiger, Wolverine and Trojan fans that passionately follow their teams through all their respective ups and downs as much as I do with the Buckeyes?

Hell no.

As a matter of fact, some of the most intelligent sports discussions Iโ€™ve had have been with Trojan fans when I lived in Southern California, and even a couple of Gator fans at the Phoenix airport after that embarrassing 41-14 slaughtering the night before in January 2007.ย 

Iโ€™ve even gone so far as to congratulate Wolverine fans for doing what we couldnโ€™t a year earlierโ€”defeating Florida, which they didย in the Capitol One Bowl last January.ย 

However, that doesnโ€™t mean that I didnโ€™t take a perverse delight in watching Michigan (also known to Buckeye fans as โ€œSCUM," โ€œThat School Up North,โ€ or "TSUN") fall to Appalachian State and Oregon earlier in the 2007 season.ย 

The Buckeyes lost to both Florida and LSU in embarrassing fashion, and everyone outside the state of Ohio was drinking Buckeyeโ€”flavored Haterade.ย  We were โ€œtoo slowโ€ and โ€œcouldnโ€™t keep up with the SEC speedโ€ and whatever other examples were rubbed in our faces to explain the slaughtering in back-to-back championship games.ย 

For what it's worth, the rest of college football nation had every right to hate the Buckeyes, watching those teams fail as miserably as they did.ย 

Itโ€™s when unfounded criticism and harassment of fans, either at the hands of some classless LSU fans in the Superdome, or when Buckeye fans harass fans of opposing teams when they visit the Shoe,ย that bothers me.ย 

It may look hypocritical on the surface, but there is such a thing as hating the team (and doing so in a respectful manner) without acting like an obnoxious jackass to the opposing fans.ย 

Maybe I haveย skewed ideals of how a sports fan should behave in regards to rival teams, but thereโ€™s a fine line between harassment or assault, and some good-old fashioned ribbing.ย 

Letโ€™s face it: If it werenโ€™t for sports rivalries, why would any of us bother following the teams we love?ย  What wouldย Ohio Stateย strive for if weย didnโ€™t have Michigan?ย  Or if Auburn didnโ€™t have Alabama?ย  Or any other historic rivalry in any sport for that matter?

Of course, I use college football as myย primary example only because itโ€™s the one sport I follow religiously. I have other sports teams I follow.ย 

For instance, Iโ€™m also a fan of the Los Angeles Angels, and hate the Oakland Athletics. However, most of my friendsย in college are from Northern California and live and die by the Aโ€™s.ย 

Iโ€™d be lying if I said we didnโ€™t have some heated discussions about our respective teams, but nothing that ever resulted in overly-offensive language or physical assault.ย 

Then again, most of my friends in college who followed the Aโ€™s were peace studies majors, so it took a lot of work to get them riled up.

Iโ€™ve left comments before explaining how I donโ€™t understand for the life of me how or why fans in the SEC defend each othersโ€™ teams.ย 

Where Iโ€™m from, youโ€™re more likely to see Woody Hayesโ€™ zombified corpse rise from the dead and take control of the football team away from Jim Tressel than see an Ohio State fan root for theย Michigan in any scenario.ย 

Some may argue that strength of schedule and rankings depend on how well the other teams in your conference play, and while thatโ€™s a valid argument, I can honestly say Iโ€™ve never entertained the notion of rooting for Indiana to beat Purdue, or for Wisconsin to beat Iowa just to make the Buckeyes look better.ย 

In a perfect world (one that probably only makes sense in my head), all those teams would lose to each other, while the Buckeyes continue to win the games theyโ€™re scheduled to play, regardless of how strong or weak the Big Ten conference is in any given year.ย 

Since this is reality though, you canโ€™t have it both ways. Forced to choose, Iโ€™d probably root for the Hoosiers and Iowa, just because Iโ€™m a sucker for underdogs and in turn, sacrifice my teamโ€™s chance at looking stronger in the national spotlight.

With that said, we could all probably benefit from being more civil towards each other when it comes to posting comments about our favorite teams.ย 

Some of us need to be more optimistic (I know who I amโ€ฆ) and some of us need to lay off the ad-hominem attacks of other fans just because we donโ€™t like their school or conference (i.e. โ€œThe Gators suck because thereโ€™s nothing but inbred hicks living in Florida.โ€).ย 

God knows you get a lot of (ignorant) hate from other fans at places like ESPN or CBS Sports, but part of the reason that Bleacher Report has thrived thus far is because itโ€™s a site where fans of every team and sport have a chance to objectively state their viewpoints on the teams and players they love or hate.

Being civil results in interesting discussions, even if you donโ€™t agree with the writer, or another commenterโ€™s viewpoint.ย  There are numerous examples of such discussion in the articles on this website, which is a testament to the way weโ€™ve avoided of the type of hyperbolic hate you see on other sports websites.ย  To our benefit, the people who come here just to troll usually donโ€™t last very long.

But for what its worth: I donโ€™t give a damn for the whole state of Michigan.ย  Iโ€™m from O-hi-o.