Arsene Wagne Ramcross Saga: Let's Talk Ryan and Aaron

And that is how you take a Facebook conversation and turn it into a blog.

He goes in really really really hard, and really really really late.

On Sept. 10, it works.

11:02 a.m. Bren

Now, now.

11:02 a.m. Adam

But the 10th time he'll snap your Achilles in half, and take his yellow card.

Then he'll get his praise from BBC idiots— sorry pundits—and we'll all carry on, in our merry English way.

His timing leaves a lot to be desired, and he doesn't seem to give a hoot if he puts the careers of other professionals in danger; this is a cancer in the game and it should be stamped out.

It is not fair to deprive athletes of their livelihood just because everyone "loves a good tackle."

11:06 a.m. Bren

What would you have said if I asked you, "What do you think of Shawcross before the Ramsey incident and before you You tube Shawcross bad tackle?"

One of stoke's best players?

Good potential for England?

Scores a lot for a young centre half?

11:07 a.m. Adam

He gets me a lot of points in my fantasy team, and I haven't seen him play a huge amount, but I understand he's quite a good player.

However, just because my modus operendi for analysing the cleanliness of Shawcross' game are Aaron Ramsey's injury, doesn't make him any less dirty, or any more respectable as a player.

11:08 a.m. Bren

A lot of the media are jumping on the bandwagon saying he is a bad lad.

And a lot of them are jumping on the bandwagon saying he is a great lad.

I'm in the middle.

11:08 a.m. Adam

The majority of what I read from Skysports and BBC is support for the young lad, and hope that he'll get on with his England career.

11:09 a.m. Bren

Likable,  Mr. Hate.

11:09 a.m. Adam

I'm thinking he's a good guy off the pitch, and a good talent, but he's reckless and a danger to the career of other professionals.

And so the conversation ends.

Anyway, I like I said he's a good player—especially for my fantasy team—however, he´s not such a good lad as people make him out to be.

I don´t think he´s dirty, but I do think he´s reckless. He tends to kick through his men, swing as hard as he can, and deal with the consequences later.

And he's late.

The tackle on Ramsey wasn't malicious but it was reckless.

He kicked through as hard as he could, and he must have known that he was going to lose out to Aaron. A lumbering centre half who loses the ball is a dangerous weapon, and when I saw him the ball get away from him, I feared for whoever got in the way next.

Unfortunately it was Aaron.

Anyway, want more proof? Watch Shawcross against Adebayor, then Shawcross on loan for Antwerp. Then, watch Shawcross against Ramsey again. T

Then tell me that this player doesn´t have a tendency to be a little devil may care.

Then watch this... Poor Ryan... Thanks for your support Wayne.

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