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Brian Burke Conference Call Reveals Insight into Anaheim Ducks' Draft Ideas

Ken Armer
Jun 19, 2008

On Thursday, a transcript of a conference call between Brian Burke and who I'm guessing is a member of the Anaheim PR team (probably my friend Adam Brady), appeared on the Ducks' website. Brian Burke covered everything from the draft to giving updated news on the statuses of Scott Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne. Below is the exact transcript with added analysis from your faithful Ducks Community Leader in hopes of making one last ditch effort at getting a clearer picture heading into the draft.

On drafting at the 12th overall position:
Thereโ€™s not a kid in this draft at 12 that will make our team next year. Drafting by position, we donโ€™t do that. We take the best athlete available and it looks like we have a surplus of defensemen and if the next name on the list is a defenseman, weโ€™re taking a defenseman. I think the GMโ€™s job is to adjust your depth chart by trade, not at the draft. You draft the best athlete available that fits our profile, the type of kid we try to look for.

Ken's Analysis: Burke is smart in saying the drafted player will not make the team. The Ducks have a lot of offensive depth looking ahead to training camp. This also shows confidence in the situation with Scott and Teemu.

On the availability of Columbusโ€™ sixth overall pick:
Well, I donโ€™t want to speak for (Blue Jackets GM) Scott Howson. I know what heโ€™s told me is that they are not moving that pick until they see whoโ€™s there. They have a guy in mind. They wonโ€™t share who it is with me. They have a player in mind and if heโ€™s there, theyโ€™re picking. If not, theyโ€™ll try and move the pick. If they move the pick, weโ€™ll likely be on the phone.

Ken's Analysis: I don't follow the Jackets much, but in Columbus they know they have to build to win now. Pressure is high to make the playoffs and the draft is key for them. I know early on the Jackets liked Filatov, but that seems a dream now. They may have a player locked in meaning they could move down and still get the guy they want. I would expect the Jackets to take a defenseman, as they need to get better on D and this is a rich defense class.

On the possibility of prospect Kyle Beach being available to the Ducks at 12:
Thereโ€™s a good chance heโ€™ll be there. Thatโ€™s a kid we like a lot. Iโ€™m not going to commit to what weโ€™re going to do, but we like the kid a lot. Heโ€™s a prototypical Ducks player. Heโ€™s skilled and tough.

Ken's Analysis: I am not normally one to say "I told you so!", but I did. Kyle Beach would make a great Duck. The Ducks know with his discipline issues, they may be able to make draft day moves and still get him. If he doesn't go before the 12 spot, expect the Ducks to snatch him up or even move to pick him up later.

On his first round strategy this year:
I think the best way to explain this is if you imagine a sideway view of the beach, the Pacific Ocean, youโ€™ve got a little shelf that runs out from the beach then thereโ€™s a drop-off. You go out a little farther then thereโ€™s another drop-off. Thatโ€™s how a draft is. In this draft you have (Steven) Stamkos and then thereโ€™s a drop-off. Heโ€™s the best player. Then you have a cluster of defensemen, who are all talented. A number of them are right shots, which are hard for us to find, and then youโ€™ve got another drop-off. That next drop-off goes past the 15th player and itโ€™s a good group. At 12, we could easily trade down one or two spots and still get one of the guys that we like in that group. Weโ€™re lining up the teams below us and telling them that we would consider trading the pick on the floor depending on the name. If we get there and the scouts say, โ€˜Look this guy droppedโ€™, because you never know. Someone always goes off the list. It takes a guy thatโ€™s not in your group and now that means that one of your names dropped. Weโ€™re telling them, depending on whoโ€™s there, we would consider moving the pick right there and trading down. Weโ€™d go as low as 15 and weโ€™re still comfortable to get one of the kids we like.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: If the Ducks are truly pursuing Kyle Beach, they know they could potentially make a draft day trade and free up cap space: drop to number 15 and possibly still get Beach. Steven Stamkos is an amazing skater; the expected Boltโ€™s draft pick is very talented without a doubt. He will surely see ice time next year. The analogy about the ocean and beach is interesting. It's one of the best metaphors Iโ€™ve heard for the draft, especially this year.

On Scott Niedermayer:
Hereโ€™s what I told Scotty. His agent said that heโ€™s going to decide by Friday. Thatโ€™s not the deadline weโ€™ve given him. His wife is expecting a baby. What I told Scotty is, you take the weekend. Heโ€™s got much bigger fish to fry right now. The Samueliโ€™s are family first and thatโ€™s how weโ€™ve always done things and thatโ€™s how weโ€™ll always do things. You look after your family right now. We can wait until Monday. The operative date for us is July 1, not tomorrow. Nothing we do tomorrow, positionally, it doesnโ€™t factor in. Weโ€™re going to take whoever we take.

I donโ€™t have a sense which way heโ€™s leaning. I know which way I hope heโ€™s leaning.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: The Ducks organization has always been โ€œfamily firstโ€, especially to the Ducks former captain during their Cup Run. Congrats to Scott and his family on their new addition. Bottom Line: Scott knows his answer and will probably tell before the deadline, I hope.

On Teemu Selanne:
Heโ€™s an unrestricted free agent. I canโ€™t give Teemu a deadline. I can give Scotty all the deadlines I want because heโ€™s under contract, but Teemu is an unrestricted free agent. He can sign wherever he wants, whenever he wants. What Iโ€™ve told his agent, Don Baizley, is that as of July 1, we are not going to commit that we would have funds available to re-sign him. He has a deadline not to sign with us, but that at that point we might move on and not be in a position to sign him. Thatโ€™s a real deadline for us.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: This is a real impressive answer. I admire Burke for knowing he has the upper hand here; Teemu wants to return and both of them know of the Ducks small amount of cap room. Itโ€™s a little aggressive for me, but if it pays off like I expect it will, no one can complain.

On if the unknown statuses of Scotty and Teemu hamstring him in any dealings with the roster this weekend:
With Teemu, Iโ€™m not in a position to give him deadlines. Itโ€™s not realistic. Would I like to know? It would be nice. In Scottyโ€™s case, as I said a year ago, I think players earn the right to decide when they walk away from the game. Scotty earned that right. What I told him this year is because of the budget and the cap situation itโ€™s resulted in, Iโ€™m not doing that again. As far as getting through this weekend without an answer, the operative date was July 1. Thatโ€™s when we would act to replace him if heโ€™s not going to come back. It doesnโ€™t hamstring us over the weekend.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: Burke knows from last year if heโ€™s going to fill the void left by either of these, it will be in free agency, not drafting. This answer also goes along with the โ€œno picks will make the teamโ€ comment above. July 1st will be a busy day for Burke if these two are still questionable.

On analyzing other teams for trade options:
Unfortunately for us, weโ€™ve had time. Weโ€™ve been working on other teams now for a month. Weโ€™ve been spoiled. The last couple of years weโ€™ve played into late May and the middle of June. This is the first year in three years where weโ€™ve had time in late April and May and we havenโ€™t wasted that time. Weโ€™ve been working on teams since we were eliminated and trying to see what we can do.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: I really doubt the Ducks will make any trades as everyone involved seems happy with the current players and arrangements on this team. Maybe re-sign and trade Doug Weight, who knows. Anything is possible.

On the possibility of making any deals this weekend that would affect the Ducksโ€™ NHL roster:
Thereโ€™s 30 teams, imagine a big chess board, letโ€™s say someone makes a move for a player and letโ€™s say four teams are in on that deal, well that means three teams now are looking for something else. A lot of this is reactive where someone moves a piece on the chess board and all the sudden thereโ€™s three teams calling you because the player they wanted just went to another team. I think the whole thing is going to heat up tonight. There is some chance that weโ€™ll be able to do something.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: Iโ€™m with Burkie on this one. If something is going to happen, itโ€™s tonight. That gives a team time to make a deal and re-evaluate for the draft. I would judge by this answer that someone is interested in a Duck. Hopefully, Burke will make a nice trade dent now as having someone to shake up the roster might be a good thing. If this happens, look for a scorer. I believe Burke has a โ€œwin nowโ€ attitude.

On teams picking in the top five:
Right now, you look at the draft sequence (after Tampa Bay at No.1). Itโ€™s LA. Iโ€™ve talked to (Kings GM) Dean (Lombardi) and he told me who theyโ€™re picking. Iโ€™ve talked to Atlanta. Theyโ€™re picking at three and they told me who theyโ€™re picking. St. Louis and the New York Islanders have both said that theyโ€™re picking unless someone blows them out of the water. I donโ€™t sense that thereโ€™s any urgency to move it. Itโ€™s a really good group of players. I know if I was sitting with the third or fourth pick, Iโ€™d be very happy if nothing materialized and I got to go up and pick.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: Iโ€™ve heard it said before that these teams were basically locked and happy where they are. The top five picks are going to be pretty text book, and not much drama involved. All the teams involved will be filling a need. Besides Stamkos, LA, and St. Louis could also easily see their picks become influential this year.

On prospect Colten Teubert:
Heโ€™s a big, hard-nosed kid and a good player. Heโ€™s in that group. Anyone whoโ€™s big and belligerent, they target as a guy we would take. We also, believe it or not, like skill too. When we won the Cup we had a pretty skilled team. Teubertโ€™s not as skilled (as Kyle Beach) yet. He has upside.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: I donโ€™t know much about Teubert - but if the kid is like Beach, I like him already. As expected, Burke wants to keep the physical nature in the Ducks lineup. Teubert was an the expected pick for the Ducks earlier in the year according to some, but I think Kyle Beach fits the Ducks style better. If Niedermayer retires Teubert might be the Ducks draft pick.

On how he likes to develop teams:
Developing my teams, the top six forwards, you try to have a maximum blend of size and skill. The bottom six guys are your hard hat guys. Theyโ€™re your penalty killers, your faceoff guys, your checking line and they provide the truculence to your lineup that I like. Drafting at 12, youโ€™re not shooting for a bottom six forward. Youโ€™re not shooting for a five or six defenseman. Youโ€™re shooting for a guy you hope will be in your top four on defense and youโ€™re hoping for a top six forward or a goaltender. There are a couple goaltenders in there and Iโ€™ll draft a goaltender if thatโ€™s the name on the list.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: Cute answer Burkie, but a goaltender wonโ€™t be taken by the Ducks. Expect the Ducks to take a very talented forward, such as Zach Boychuk or Kyle Beach.

On prospect Nikita Filatov:
The uncertainty of Russian players, obviously thereโ€™s no transfer agreement with the Russians, thatโ€™s an issue. The type of game we play, if you look at even our top six forwards, if we can get size and belligerence in the top six we still like that. Like Corey Perry is a physical player. Ryan Getzlafโ€™s a physical player. He doesnโ€™t exactly fit our prototype, but we like him. We have not ruled out Filatov at that pick.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: Burke is not a fan of European talent. Additionally, yesterday he said he would not take Filatov at 12. If he did take him, he would trade him because Filatov does not fit the teams image, regardless of his talent.

On the difference in prospects Drew Doughty and Zach Bogosian:
I think more guys would say that Doughty is ready to play right now. Bogosianโ€™s got maybe more upside. Bogosian hasnโ€™t become the player heโ€™s going to be and Doughty is. Doughty is ready to play. At 12, the only thing Iโ€™m going to see tomorrow is them walk by my table on the way to get up and get picked. Theyโ€™re not going to be there at 12.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: I haven't really studied these two. All i know is they are top 5 picks and great offensive defensemen. Rumor has it Doughty goes to the Los Angeles Kings, and Bogosian goes to Atlanta. I have no clue, that just the rumor I've heard.

On his focus entering the draft:
The focus right now is how we maximize the picks we have here. We have 12. Weโ€™ve got our second round pick, which dropped because the (Blake) Wheeler (situation) and Phoenix got a compensatory pick (35th overall), we dropped from 42 to 43. Then weโ€™ve got three thirds. Weโ€™re exploring packaging two of those thirds and moving up. Maybe trading two thirds for a second. Weโ€™re working every angle here and every team. You canโ€™t just focus on the teams right below you. You might have a team that has a late first round pick that would take a second and two thirds for it. Weโ€™re trying to turn over every stone and I think weโ€™ve done that. I think all the teams know what weโ€™re trying to do or what we would consider. Now we have to see if it falls into place. Sometimes it doesnโ€™t. Iโ€™ve said this before, I think draft deals have disproportionate value. Letโ€™s say you trade John Smith for John Doe and you make that deal on December 1 and you do it because you think it improves your hockey club. That same deal at the draft generates a tremendous amount of interest and sells tickets. I think draft day deals, Iโ€™ve made two big ones, I think they have disproportionate value. I think they have a marketing component. If we can do something and get some coverage in our market, I think that has value to it, but youโ€™re not going to ever make a deal just for that. It has to be a deal you think youโ€™d make in December because it makes your team better. If you can do it here, you get a little bit of a splash at a quiet time.

Kenโ€™s Analysis: I also heard this answer yesterday on NHL Live, nothing surprising. Burke wants to make a splash with a flashy draft pick. Who wouldnโ€™t? Burke will be conservative, but if he sees a good option, he will take it. Heading into draft day, I feel Brian Burke is one of the best off-season GMโ€™s in the NHL. I doubt he will disappoint me.

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Source: Original Transcript of the Conference call comes from the Anaheim Ducks website. The image is courtesy of the article.