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Kaleb KelchnerJun 7, 2018

WWE champion CM Punk has a huge match coming up this Sunday at Royal Rumble 2012, but he took the time to have a half-hour interview with mixed martial arts journalist Ariel Helwani of MMAFighting.

In the lengthy, candid interview, Punk talks about his cancelled walk out with Chael Sonnen at UFC on FOX 2 in Chicago this weekend, his thoughts on MMA fighters utilizing their charisma in fight promotion and whether or not he would ever be interested in an MMA fight.

Helwani, a pro wrestling fan himself, also touched on the Royal Rumble. ย In fact, Helwani came across as more comfortable talking about pro wrestling in an MMA environment than Punk himself.

On the topic of walking out with Sonnen, Punk sounded a little disappointed that he wouldn't get the chance to be a part of it:

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It was something Chael and I discussed, yes, and the thing about my job is you don't get days off. ย And we have a show that, before the big pay-per-view Royal Rumble, and I somehow miraculously find myself off the show to get an extra day in Chicago and it seemed like planets kind of aligned. ย There happens to be a UFC show down the road from my house and it's something we talked about, yeah. ย I think it might have gotten leaked before, you know, all the chickens were hatched, but you know, so be it.

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Punk goes on to tell Helwani that he was introduced to Sonnen through Gerald Brisco, and that a part of him not doing the walkout with Sonnen was that he didn't want to overshadow anyone, not wanting to bruise any egos. ย 

Helwani asked Punk if MMA could learn something from professional wrestling, in regards to fighters promoting themselves and being entertaining:

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Well that's the main thing, talk as much smack as you want, you gotta back it up. ย Will more guys do it? ย I don't know, certainly not as well as Chael. ย He's very dynamic in that respect. ย But you know, I think guys like the Diaz brothers, anybody that says they put a black eye on the sport with their antics or their shenanigans, I think people really need to take a look at that because what it does is it highlights the sport as a whole and I don't think anybody is really doing anything to disparage the MMA community. ย I mean, that's what people talk about.

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Punk came across as a true fan of MMA, and Helwani noted that Punk had a gi laid out to dry. ย Punk has been training Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and said there was no shortage of tough guys who try to test the champ.ย 

Nearly 20 minutes into the interview, Helwani asked the million-dollar question:ย  Does CM Punk ever think that, just once, he'd like to have an MMA fight?ย  And after a deep breath, he gave his answer:

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Yes. ย I don't think that's going to surprise anybody, and those that think that I don't belong in an octagon, I welcome that. ย I welcome anybody who tells me I can't do anything. ย It makes me want to do it more. ย I think that there's a lot of guys that our paths might have been a little different if the UFC was as prominent.

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He notes that professional wrestling was a big option for wrestlers getting out of college or the Olympics, and that if the UFC was where it is today back in 1997, a guy like Kurt Angle would never have done pro wrestling.ย 

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I would love to give it a chance. ย I think the only thing that's, well obviously the only thing that's stopping me is I'm contracted talent for World Wrestling Entertainment. ย But also I'm no spring chicken, all these guys are so young, they're so athletic. ย I'm kind of like an older, broken down, baby deer. ย That's how graceful I am sometimes. ย I never try to say I'm an athlete or anything like that, what I have is heart. ย Normally when I have a desire to do something, I set my mind to it, I can do it. So who's to say, you gotta wait maybe two years and see what happens.

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Punk notes that there have been some older MMA fighters before, and jokingly tells UFC president Dana White to not worry, he won't have to put up with another hot-headed professional wrestler. ย He believes there are a lot of boys in the locker room who would like to test themselves in an MMA fight. ย Daniel Bryan, anyone?

This interview with CM Punk was absolutely stunning. ย Punk is a bigger fan of MMA than some MMA fighters themselves, and comes across as very well-educated and level-headed. ย I was particularly impressed with his answer to ever wanting to have an MMA match. ย Professional wrestling is known for tough guys and egos, but the WWE champion wouldn't go that route, and instead gave a very humble, realistic answer.

If you're a fan of Punk's work, watch the interview in its entiretyโ€”it's a classic.