Tom Schinler

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  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Haha, okay. I think your hair is too short so youd be safe from tearing it off XD

    Okay. I can agree with that. But then that was a different emotion entirely to what you're suggesting we do with Cena. Im in favor of building Cena as a monster heel because people will naturally come to fear him. Itll be more meaningful and memorable. But to keep him the same will just annoy the fk out everyone XD Though in doing it that way, people wont want him to succeed. I see what you're going with in that sense. And it makes logical sense to a degree. But I just dont thing its a good idea to p*ss your audience off XD

    And surely you can, to an extent, think of Del Rio. Dont people hate the guy? (I dont). In the way that you're suggesting? I mean, surely he's top heel right now since he gets booed constantly.
    So, your strategy would be to make the faces the marketing focus. And place less emphasis on the heels? Hm. That one is a strange one. Because on the one hand, you could do really well. People will shift sales over to the faces like nothing, the kids already buy Cena's stuff anyway so theres no change there. But then, you could risk alienating a customer base (and we're unsure how far that extends). So it may work, it may not.

    I think he's at his best as an anti-hero. Where he flicks between both. It utilizes all of his strengths. By classifying him as just a face, he looses that edge he has. But making him a heel, people still cheer him. Thats why the summer of Punk was his best run. He was an anti-hero then, like Stone Cold (hence the endless comparisons)

  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Ill get back to you on that last one Tom. Im headed to bed. Ill reply tomorrow.

    Night!

  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Wow, Ive earnt your respect :) Well you've earnt mine :)

    I think it has personally. The role of the heel has evolved involuntarily. In the end, its the audience that they need to cater to. The wider audience. Coleridge famously said that its crucial that a play should achieve "the willing suspension of disbelief". And that is much more difficult to do now than it was back then. The way the audience perceives the characters are now much more different, which alters the entire scene. Thing is, you dont need people to literally HATE the villain to make the story succeed. Emotions are a way to connect with the story, its true. But it doesnt have to. Perfect case study, The Dark Knight. People never hated the Joker, they never really despised him like they were meant to. But it didnt matter. The Joker was more than just the typical villain we had seen. The film was a huge success, and it was done without emotions.

    That is a very interesting take on the top heels. Because people tend to say names like, Punk, Orton, Edge (I think you need to add him to your list if you're going by emotions here. Dont forget when he stole Lita from Matt). Thing is, whilst its great that Cole and Vikki did their jobs. You need to remember, they werent wrestlers. Although Vikki had worked hard to build her image, Ill give you that one. Cole was different. Nobody had ever hated a commentator before like that. It had never been done, thats why it happened. For the first time, people turned their attention to hating Cole. But I think, when you play on those emotions. Its such a dangerous game to play. It really can go too far.

    Ive never doubted Cena as a performer. He's actually very solid in the ring. The 5 MoD is very frustrating beyond belief. People are very quick to criticize him. But they need to remember it takes 2 to tango.

    That is a possibility. But the Cena heel turn, the nature of it would make room for new stars regardless of how its done. Simply put, a Cena heel turn is guaranteed to create a window of opportunity. But I just think its silly to continually frustrate people on purpose when you have the opportunity to change the direction of wrestling forever.

    Your examples reinforce your point well. There's no questioning the success of Flair and Piper due to the legit hatred. But this was at a time where people were willing to accept good guys for who they were, and bad guys for what they were. This was a time where people of all ages would cheer for the hero no matter what. Emotion was what made that era what it was. But times are changing Tom. Wrestling has become so much more than what it was. You now have people rejecting characters, and accepting a select few. People look for so much more now, thats why I cant see your idea succeeding :(

    Still, you do raise an interesting point :)

  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Thank you! Im glad you like my bio and agree with alot of it. I appreciate it my friend :)

    And as for the Cena heel turn. Well, the thing is. Modern times have caused a shift in the role of the heel. Its very difficult to have a heel booed by the entire crowd. Its become "cool" to cheer for the bad guys. Mainly because their character have shown more dimensions than the modern face. The typical modern face follows the generic super hero mold. Very quickly people begin to get sick of it. So, the key no longer lies with who cheers for who. Because no matter what WWE do, they cant make people cheer or boo someone. And in the world of today, thats not whats important. Remember, 90% of the live crowds out there are pretty dead anyway. You only get select few places which blow the roof off the stadium AEra style.
    But in the end, the importance lies in general interest. If things are kept interesting, more people will watch it. Its all about ratings now. Thats what Vince cares about, that's where the key is. And to turn Cena heel in the way that I suggested, it would make things more fun to watch for everyone. Ratings would be through the roof. Im not saying your idea is a bad one, im just saying. Why purposely torture people to the same thing we've been seeing for years. And why not do something that would be so much more meaningful?

  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Ah, THIS question. Matt wrote a fantastic article on this:

    bleacherreport.com/articles/1666926-switching-gears-john-cena-stone-cold-and-the-complexities-of-a-wwe-heel-turn

    My comment is the top comment :P

  • Dan Riaz posted 351 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Sounds good :D

    Im alright. Pretty hungry atm. Been asleep the whole day :P

  • Dan Riaz posted 353 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    You alright?

  • Dan Riaz posted 354 days ago

    Dan Riaz

    Hello Tom :)