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...another long-suffering Bills fan.
Hi Richard, Thanks for responding again. You are misunderstanding my use of the word "fleece". I never meant that he was stealing money or committing any type of criminal activity or that he hates people in Toronto. What I meant was that he was taking advantage of people's mindless devotion, gullibility, ignorance, etc. to offer a product a sucker rate, which his two partners, Rogers, and the NFL went along with, which is a very contemptuous ploy. The games in Toronto should never have had an issue like this. There is a lot of good will for both the Bills and the NFL in Toronto, and actions like this have actually damaged it.
How would you like it if the Blue Jays did the same thing in Buffalo?
As I mentioned, the NFL has a long history of treating loyal fans this way. The honorable thing to do would be to schedule expansion meetings and admit Toronto and Los Angeles, the two wealthiest North American cities without franchises whose wealth the NFL is dying to tap, into the league. They would make a ton of money, perhaps over one billion dollars on franchise fees alone. Perhaps they would also do something almost unprecedented and admit more than two new franchises. I wrote in one of my articles that there are at least ten other American cities that want in the NFL. and that would increase the number of teams more quickly to the next symetrical number of 40. There is certainly room for both a Toronto and Buffalo franchise, without one city becoming the victim of the other. And Los Angeles could get a franchise without having to steal some other city's team.
I have no idea what you are trying to prove in that latest post. I NEVER said that Wilson was trying to defraud the NFL. The steps to this agreement were very simple.
1. Ted Rogers has publicly said he wants to get an NFL team for Toronto.
2. Ralph Wilson hears this and thinks he can make some money from the situation.
3. He contacts Rogers and lets him know under what terms he'd be willing to allow games in Toronto.
4. Rogers agrees to the terms. These involve charging Toronto fans monopolistic prices for tickets.
5. The NFL which is already making big bucks from the sale of merchandise in Toronto and wants to tap the market further agrees.
6. The Toronto public and press which by its proximity to Buffalo finds out the terms, compares it to regular pricing for a Buffalo game and objects to the way they are being treated.. The result is bad press for Wilson, Rogers, and the NFL and no sold out game.
7. Wilson gets off scott free while Rogers takes a hit.
8. By offering this deal and then stating later he might sell or leave the team to new owners who will move it to a new city after he dies, Wilson shows how he is rewarding the fans in Buffalo for their loyalty which made him a rich man. Do you see the Rooneys doing this in Pittsburgh?
9. Why are you defending Wilson when by his actions he wants to take your team away from you?
Hi Richard, Thanks for reading and commenting on my article. Sorry, I have to disagree with you. Ralph Wilson knew there was mindless support for the NFL in Toronto and wanted to get a bigger share its market. At least one quarter of the fans that attend Bills games come from Canada. He let it be known to Ted Rogers whom he knew was seeking an NFL franchise for Toronto that he would be willing to stage some games in the city. He set his price and Rogers agreed to it and the NFL sanctioned it. I doubt very much that when Wilson set his price that his intent was to fleece Ted Rogers. Instead they both had a closed door discussion and figured they could sell the game to Canadians at monopolistic prices. (There may even have been a secret clause giving Ted Rogers the right to purchase the team if Wilson died first as seemed likely. That's probably gone by the wayside if it existed thanks to Rogers' death.) Regardless of who did exactly what, the intent was to treat Canadians like suckers. This is not the first time the NFL has done this in another country. One of the other commentators on this article comes from London and said the NFL did the exact same thing there and it was resented there too.
As I mentioned in the article, the NFL recently closed its European minor league because it was losing money. Nobody there liked being fleeced either. When MLB and the NBA established a team in Toronto, no attempt was made to stick fans with excessive prices. If there had been, I doubt if the Blue Jays or Raptors would be around today. The difference with the NFL is that the proximity of Toronto to Buffalo allowed fans and the press to compare prices in the two venues and realize what was going on. A reasonably priced game would have sold out almost immediately without any controversy. Instead the NFL got almost universal bad press in Toronto because of this policy and probably lost fans. The game failed to sell out and Rogers took a hit while Wilson got off scott free.
There was no need to treat patrons like that because the game is being played in another country. If the CFL or another foreign league attempted to play some games in the United States, I would hope that the games would be fairly priced with respect to the fans. I wrote three articles about this kind of attitude that was displayed during the World Baseball Classic. There was a lot belittling expressed by Americans, not only against foreigners but also against their own team. Kevin Youkilis was especially targeted, not only on Bleacher Report but on the Yardbarker sports blog. These Bills games in Toronto are another example of that attitude and I resent being looked down on and regarded as a sucker.
The NFL has a long history of treating fans this way. Ask the fans in Baltimore, Oakland, Cleveland, Houston, and St. Louis how it felt to lose their franchises, not because they weren't supporting them, but because their owners, who weren't losing money, were greedy and took their teams elsewhere. The latest ploy is by the potential builders of the new stadium in Los Angeles who don't want an expansion team but have stated they won't build a stadium until they steal an established team from its city. The cities that have been mentioned include Jacksonville, Minnesota, San Diego, Oakland, San Francisco, and your Buffalo Bills. The NFL could put a stop to this chicanary by prohibiting any team to move there and promising to award an expansion franchise if a new stadium is built. Instead this is allowed to go on. Why? It gives NFL owners a chance to blackmail cities into building expensive stadiums for rich patrons like the new Yankee Stadium in New York.
If Los Angeles made Wilson a great offer, he'd sell them the team without any qualm at all. If he is really devoted to Buffalo and its fans and is as blameless as you and Jarrod allege, why is he offering Toronto or any other city any games at all? He's making plenty of money in Buffalo as it is. Why isn't he guarrenteeing that the Bills will stay in Buffalo after he dies? And why is this owner, who is taking part in a scheme to fleece fans in another country, who rewards the patrons in the Buffalo for their loyalty that has made him a rich man offering games to other cities, who threatens to sell the team to owners who will move it after he dies, being defended by two "long-suffering Bills fans" like you and Jarrod?
Wrote an article about the Bills that might interest you Rich
Let me know what you think
dude, read this and then spread the word of this noble cause
Got another article I'd like you to check out. Let me know what you think. :)
I was wondering if you would like to jump on with the Buffalo Bills round table about what they should do in the draft. If you are interested, send me over an e-mail, to firstname.lastname@example.org.
Thanks and have a good one!
I'd appreciate your feedback. Thanks!
Jessie Ventura hit it dead on. Here's a link to my article; I'm his alibi.
Wrote a Mock Draft, hope you take a look at it.
Let me know what you think