Londoner, chasing my dreams.
Wow, it's worse than I thought. I had no choice but to watch United (I made the mistake of assuming Dortmund would be playing at the same time) play and... wow.
Moyes and Rooney are so busy vowing they can win the champions league that they didn't realize they had to actually win their games to do that.
I'm partly trolling, partly telling the truth. It'd be possible to say what I think about United's future without making a fuss, but that's no fun.
First of all, I'd like to point out that Barcelona has the most fans now, since some time in 2013. It's been a while, so I no longer have the link, but United is not the most supported on the planet. That being said, Barca and Madrid are higher caliber squads, with Real on the hunt for Galacticos and Barca generally speaking building from within, so on that front, United probably has a higher appeal simply because it's more attainable.
As far as money goes... money means nothing. PSG had a squad worth double what Barca's costed and we beat them without Messi. City had a squad worth nearly triple and we beat them 2-0 at the supposedly impenetrable fortress. You can wave money at all the top players you want, but it won't build you up to being the team you once were with Fergie in charge. Neymar chose to sign with Barca instead of the Bayerns, Chelsea, and Man Cities that were willing to give him chunks of the moon as his weekly wage. Cavani signing with PSG likely had more motivation than just money, as once again, City, Chelsea, Buyern, Monaco, Madrid, etc. all have just as much money, and every single one of those teams could use a striker, even City (To backup Aguero).
And come on now... is that really the kind of team you'd want to become? The way Fergi was able to make such a group of (Let's face it) low level players dominate the BPL was a sight to behold, and certainly warranted more respect than some billionaires coming in and buying the best players from other leagues. I suppose you could try to use your status to become a club that tosses around money, but just ask Real Madrid how many trophies the hundreds of millions of dollars they've spent has won them, and it's not only because they share the league with Barca.
And... now we get to the meat of the discussion. Moyes. Moyes will never win a trophy, plain and simple. He's a career midtable manager and he could be managing Real Madrid and still be fighting for an Europa League spot. What's funny is he doesn't even seem to recognize this. He says United can still qualify by for the CL by winning the competition. I don't understand how he plans to do that if he can't even beat bottom table BPL teams. As far as your defenses of him go...
1.) He threw Januzaj out there for one game and saw him instantly become a cult icon at United after he scored a couple of goals. It doesn't take dedication to youth to keep using a youth player when you know the entire Red Devil fanbase would hang you by your intestines if you don't. Let me put it this way: Januzaj's contract was set to expire this summer. If Moyes hadn't played him against Sunderland (Or was it Southampton? All the BLP names are so similar to me) he'd have let his contract run out and in 2014/15 he'd have signed with Juve/PSG/Barca/Monaco/whatever and become a key member of that squad ala Paul Pogba. Compare that to Barca, a team that really is dedicated to their youth, who gave Gerard Deulofeu a healthy contract extension several years before his previous deal expired before sending him out on loan to help improve his development, despite it being against the normal way the club operates.
2.) His attempts to sign players for his midfield have been awful. Whether you believe it or want to stay in denial about it, he has pursued the signatures of Fabregas, Iniesta, Thiago, Sergi Roberto, and now Rafinha, all from Barca. His only summer signing was Felaini, who was not much of an upgrade for United's midfield. Then he signed Mata, who has been overrated for his entire career. There's a reason Madrid didn't want him. There's a reason he rides the bench for Spain. There's a reason Mourinho got rid of him. He's not an impact player, and thinking he'd save or even help United's midfield was wishful thinking.
3.) Moyes pushing out the old guard isn't good, it's bad. That may be because my club has something of a sense of loyalty. Players like Giggs and Ferdinand and Evra aren't dead weight, they're just not young. They were dominant with Fergie telling them what to do, and replacing them with younger, less experienced players won't change the fact that the man telling them what to do in a game has no idea what he's doing.
4.) The problem is most of your squad qualifies as dead wood. You don't have any players other top teams would love to have except Rooney. It's impressive that Fergie won the league with them, but Moyes isn't 1/100th the manager Fergie is, although I suppose that doesn't need to be said. United would need a complete overhaul for them to have a squad comparable to that of Europe's other top clubs, and a quick look at Barca's history from 2007 to present shows the manager has quite a massive impact on performance.
As far as youth goes, I'm going to have to stop you on Januzaj, as he is NOT a United youth product. He's been at the club for two years, and was already a top teenage prospect wanted by several top clubs before joining United. Barca has players his age who have been with Barca for over a decade. They are embedded with the Barcelona style of play; they are youth products. Januzaj is as much a United product as Pogba is a product of Juventus.
The reason why so many academies fall short of what Barca has is they inadvertently teach individualism. They're just a medium for the players to get to the top level. Real Madrid fans will give you a list of players they "Produced" and only two of them actually played for the club. United is no different. Januzaj might not even stick around after his current contract expires. Ronaldo (Although not a youth product) followed in Beckham's footsteps and gleefully skipped off to Spain as soon as Fergie caved and told them they could. These other youth players you've listed... who is to say any of them even care if they play for United's first team? At Barca if it isn't your dream to play here we kick you to the mofocking curb. Our academy being filled largely with Catalans and Spaniards probably helps with that, though.
I think United is a great club, but Moyes is not a great manager. Your lineup could consist of all the best players in every position, but without a brain behind them they're just a bunch of kids getting together to play pick up at the local park.
Hey, long time no speak.
Palace and Olympiakos coming up soon. Who would you play and why?
I think we'll play this team vs Palace:
Rafael Rio Smalling Evra *
Fellaini Carrick **
Mata Rooney Januzaj ***
(And this team in the CL:
Smalling Jones Vidic Evra
*I'd rest Vidic for the CL game. Give Rio a shot to prove his doubters, I think he'll prove he still has it. For the CL match I'd play Smalling at RB, Jones and Vidic at CB and Evra at LB.
Also, I think Evans is still out.
** Fellaini is back finally! He needs to deliver, two big games coming up and he really needs to try his hardest. I reaaaaally hope he delivers.
Carrick might be rested this game but he should be fit enough to play twice in 4 days.
*** Mata gets a week off after this so he should really be first on the team sheet.
Rooney will be buzzing from the contract, he'll deliver as usual.
Januzaj I can see starting one of the two games. Possibly this one. I can see Valencia and Young being played in a 4-4-3 in the CL.
**** RVP hopefully can play twice in 4 days. Hopefully we're winning and we can sub him off. Welbeck is still out, so Hernandez can get some minutes, so he stops moaning on twitter!
For the first time this season (ever in fact) I can't see us getting top 4.
Moyes says we were unlucky, and the conditions suited Stoke but we cannot keep making excuses. When 8-9 of your players walk into the oppositions team with ease, you should get a result and not blame other factors.
Moyes made some stupid calls. Putting Welbeck on, when Jones was injured? And then putting him in the hole/up front? What a waste of a substitute.
He should've put Fletcher on, and then leave Rooney up front. Wayne would've at least buried one of the glaring chances Welbeck skied over the bar.
And wow, Tom Cleverley... Don't even get me started on him. How is he still starting for us?! Absolute disgrace. Him and Evra meant that we started the game with 9 men.
If Liverpool win today, I can't see us getting anything other than 5th place this season and that's a massive blow! People say we can still attract top talent but I'm not sure about that. And the amount of money we lose out is just insane.
We've got 14 games left, with 40 points on the table. Roughly we need to win 10 more games and with Everton (away), City, Arsenal (away), Liverpool (home), So'ton (away), and some other relatively tricky ones like Newcastle (away), I just cannot see it anymore.
What'd you think?
That game against Stoke... Was a total pain to watch...
1. Jones and Evans are out now... Gosh, I hope the injuries aren't serious, because we will only be left with Vidic, Ferdinand, and Smalling in CB!
2. Welbeck played absolutely terribly. He was always out of position, and he was never alert for the ball even when the ball was played towards him from guys like Young or Mata. His first touch! Why is it so dang heavy....
3. I wonder why Moyes played Welbeck behind van Persie and not Mata.... I would rather see Mata do better in the #10 and Welbeck do bad in the wings that what happened today. We couldn't create anything through the middle, and even when Welbeck tried to contribute in attack he could not.
4. Carrick was pretty bad, he couldn't keep anything going right. He lost the ball too many times and was shaky pretty much the whole game. He couldn't get an offense going nor could he keep possession of the ball in midfield. Same goes with Cleverley, he wasn't trying to set up attacks at all.
This was a game we should have won, but.... God
Thanks Sir Manny, glad you enjoyed the article.
Beating a team tactically is different to analysing it. It's much, much harder.
I'm 23, and I've only really been analysing football for...2 years. Still got a lot to learn. For example, last night I turned my nose up at Lambert's decision to play Bacuna as a No. 10, but it worked!
I'll stick to analysis for now. If I start talking about how to beat teams, I might as well become a bloody manager!
If Mata comes, how do you think our squad will be like? I really want to know what many United fans think of this because I think this will be a dilemma United must solve. There is Kagawa. Mata and Kagawa are both mainly no.10s. If they play together it means Mata will have to move to the wings! And Mata doesn't perform as efficitently in the wings (upgrade over Valencia/Young of course). But...
Also the Welbeck dilemma. If RVP comes back he will obviously start over Welbeck. How do you think Welbeck will be played? In the wings? But then that would mean either of:
1. Mata moving to #10 and Kagawa rarely playing (even more than now)
2. Welbeck being benched, I would hate to see that as he's in pretty good form recently
What do you think about these?
I don't know much about Powell. For some reason, he's just never on my screen. I constantly miss him. I'm yet to really knuckle down and watch him, though apparently he's been playing up front for Wigan?
I'm honestly not disappointed about the result today, we were always going to lose, I had no hopes and it proved out that way. I was a lot more pi*sed for the other games we've dropped points in, mainly at home. We started the game with so much belief and Adnan was just inspirational to watch. For an 18 year old to take on the likes of Ivanovic and Terry is just amazing to watch. That kid has a great future.
We passed the ball well, and could've even scored with Young, but then Eto'o got a lucky goal, where Jones was really poor and a fully fit Jones wouldn't be that sloppy. You'd never see Jones stagnant like that against someone who's not even that quick, he's no Hazard. Also, it took a massive deflection and so De Gea couldn't do anything about it.
After that we stuck to our game and continued to control it despite being 1-0 down. In my opinion, Welbeck should've had a pen but really should've tucked the chance away but it was a timid effort that Cech handled with ease. 2nd half I was quite let down by some players. Really poor start and a goal that could've been stopped with a bit of concentration and belief. When Mourinho put Mikel on he looked to calm things down and we had more of the ball and eventually Hernandez did what he does best and score against Chelsea, he looked good when he came on. Created a lot of space and his movement hurt Terry. Upon reflection I would've started Hernandez (I know it's easy to say now, but he could've really changed it today since Welbeck had zero effect on the game).
Vidic shouldn't have been sent off. But Rafael should, he's 22 and acts like a 7 year old, just like his brother. Moyes needs to have a word with him, because his temper isn't right to play for such a big club like Man United.
No player really stood up today and shun, if we had RVP or Rooney we really could've got something from this game. All in all a decent performance but the same old result. We need to progress to the final in the cup and beat Sunderland. Then we have a weekend off and then have Cardiff midweek again. Some winnable games coming up and we really need to close the gap on the top 4. Spurs are looking good but they have some really tricky games (still have to go to Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal). I can see us catching Spurs up in a month or so. 4 points behind Everton (with a game less) I can see us catching them in a month or so too, but then come Liverpool. We need to beat them at Old Trafford and hope that they slip up like they did yesterday because atm it doesn't look likely. SAS are unstoppable at the moment, and we need R&R back asap!
What did you think of the game?
And more importantly, do you see United finishing in the top 4?
It's fine haha.
And my reply didn't get posted for some reason, sorry.
I also do think he has a world-class ceiling, a similar ceiling to guys like Isco.
Thing is, we fans can't hope for another Ronaldo or something, Ronaldo and Messi are once-in-a-generation players...
Maybe "overrate" was a bad word to use, I mean more of "overhyped". there was a list about the best players in the prem this season and I saw people complaining "Where is Januzaj?". I just don't want people shouting stuff like that, he's just 18, he shouldn't bear such a load.