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Adrian Dater covered the NHL and Colorado Avalanche for The Denver Post from 1995-2014. He broke the story of the Quebec Nordiques' move to Denver as a part-time freelancer and covered the Avalanche for the first 19 years of its existence. The author of the best-selling hockey book "Blood Feud", Dater has also written for publications such as Sports Illustrated, The Hockey News, ESPN The Magazine, The Sporting News and many others. A native of Barre, Vt., Dater has also written books on the Denver Broncos and Colorado Rockies. And, he met and interviewed Paul Stanley of KISS once.
Hey Dater- check this out.
Great to see you back covering hockey, Dater!! Good luck!
So, the NHL had a brief period of accepting applications for expansion? Expansion? Are you kidding me? This league is so damn greedy. The NHL needs to contract, not expand. You have a team in Phoenix that has a 2-year lease, teams such as Tampa, Carolina and Florida that are bleeding money (and Nashville isn't far behind), they just had to relocate the Thrashers back to Winnipeg a few years ago and still have no major tv presence in the United States.
They received 2 applications from Las Vegas and Quebec. Of course, one of the parameters the NHL set is that the city has to have an arena already constructed or an arena in is the process of being built. Long-term speculation had cities such as Seattle, Kansas City and Toronto bidding, but, none of them did. Seattle and Kansas City don't have arena plans yet (and, oh by the way, those two cities barely afford just having 2 teams per region - Mariners/Seahawks and Chiefs/Royals - and, didn't Seattle lose the Sonics recently and the NBA rejected the city from buying the Kings when the Maloofs were selling them, in part due to not having an arena?
There was a nonrefundable application fee of $2 mill as part of a $10 mill total application fee. Okay, these rich moguls can handle that. But, then, commissioner Bettman announced that the expansion fees would be $500 million! Per team! Or, $650 million for Quebec. That's ridiculous. Considering the fact that the last time the NHL expanded was in 2000 with Columbus and Minnesota. They paid $80 million each for the expansion team. You're telling me that the league has grown in revenue in 15 years to equate to $420 extra million per team? No way. In 2000, the NHL actually had an ESPN presence. Then, the lockout dropped a ton of sponsors and tv networks.
A Kansas City NHL franchise would be worth less than the expansion fee. The franchise would be in debt to the NHL from their inception. It would be insane to think they could compete, sell merch, drive TV growth, and court top talent by being in the red. This is a ploy to legitimize the avg valuation for an NHL team. The NHL wants to believe it's franchises are worth that much, to sell stadiums to second and third tier cities, by convincing them they are buying into the big leagues. Can you honestly believe a new Nordiques team would be worth 500 million? Gross domestic product in the Yukon Territory is about 2.5 billion (that's like $60,000 per capita they must be pulling some serious oil out of the ground up there). You could buy a significant portion of a province that's slightly larger than California, or you could bring hockey to yet another TV market with less than a million viewers, 170 miles from Montreal.
The league has like four marketable stars, no tv presence, no strong video games, no visible sponsorship deals in advertising (imagine walking by the Adidas store and seeing John Tavares on a 30 feet billboard).No wonder, Toronto dropped out of having a 2nd team.
Either contract or relocate teams such as the Coyotes and Panthers.
I miss the Hartford Whalers.
Hmm, doesn´t anyone use emails now?? I don't want twitter and those kind of things. Anyhow, I'm a swedish dude who has been a Kings fans sinces 1990 I think and I can really relate to your "Kings' Never-Say-Die Attitude Will Prevail" aticle. I thought it was brilliant written and so true, wasn't fun to like Kings here in the middle 90's when eveybody here liked Red Wings, Rangers and Pittsburgh but I an happy I stuck with the Kings and I agree with you, I think they'll have a huge shot at the cup.
I read you articles from time to time and you are very good what you are doing.
Cheers// Jecke PS if you feel like it firstname.lastname@example.org I¨m always up for talking hockey!! :-)
Mr. Dater, I just wanted to say that I'm a huge fan of yours. I read your blog posts on the Avs and I follow you on Twitter. Keep up with the great work.
Boy your a little short on fact on the coyotes attendence ..Well lets give you a little facts so you can do a honest rewrite..For one there attendence is up..You forget how they measure that by ticket givaways which are down 65% over last year..Next fact is are attendence will end up at at least over 15,995 this year..How would I know that well next home game is about 100 single tickets shy of a sellout..Pens,bruins,Hawks,vans,flyers,montral,leafs,and etc will all be sellouts.plus ticket prices for lose games in the lower level are $100 or more..Upper level no cheapier then $65 what does that tell you there a demand for hockey..But to get anyone to write the truth.That is another story which is "sad"Look at winnipeg not selling out alll there games..Move them..Do your Job!!!
Hi Andrew, sorry about the change I made on Leeman and Vaive. I thought you had talked to them rather than them being part of the 10 players named. My mistake there. Thanks for letting me know and please don't hesitate to do so if it (gasp!) should ever happen again.
Thanks Andrew and Franklin, prechiate ya
Finally….a real journalist comes to BR. Please liven up this abysmal hockey section.
Let the record show.. I liked you on Facebook before you came to B/R. That counts for something, no? Ha.
Just wanted to swing through and welcome you sir. Was pretty stoked to see your post this morning.