Sorry for the late reply lol i haven't had access to my laptop for a damn long while, so I couldn't access the boards
Well di Maria is great news, but wtf, our results lol. A draw with Sunderland, a loss to Swansea, and 4-0 to MK DONS LOL.... Well, not really "lol" it really looks problematic haha
I think these are the things that need to be addressed:
1. Abandon the 3-back formation. I was never a big fan of the 3-back, and I think a 3-5-2 does not really mesh with the type of squad we have . I think we would be best suited for a 4-2-3-1, even if that is pretty normal now. Yes Rojo can play in all defensive positions, but the CBs we have are pretty injury prone. And we have shown some serious defensive lapses with the trio we've played with so far and that's been causing us a lot. We also can't play Januzaj at all in a 3-5-2. I think a 4-2-3-1 would really suit our team a lot better, we can uuse something like this:
Rafael Jones/Evans/Smalling/Rojo Shaw
Herrera Fletcher (Vidal*/Carrick)
Januzaj/Valencia Mata Young
* If he comes, I doubt it though
** We should have sold van Persie, but if we do go through with the 3-5-2 then it would be Rooney and RVP up top but I really think we shouldve sold RVP
2. This batch of young talent is NOT the class of '92. I think we've massively overrated these guys, we can't be playing 1 or 2 of them week in week out. Blackett looks solid, but apart from him and Januzaj, I think it's very risky to deploy these guys week in and week out. Keane looks alright, but we can't play him over the 4 strikers we have.
This is the dilemma though, it's too risky to play them week in week out but it is also too much of a waste to keep loaning them or letting them play with the reserves.
3. We should not sell Welbeck. There are so many rumors about him but please... He's way better than Chicharito in my opinion, and Chicha can be sold for a bit higher price, I think.
I agree, can't see him having an outstanding season this year either. Maybe get 15 goals. Nothing too concerning.
Yeah hopefully the unveiling will be today. Di Maria, 7, I think it's time to order the kit ;)
Lol I saw that interview. Hopefully we actually get Vidal but I think De Jong/Blind is more likely. Preferably Blind since De Jong is like 30.
4-3-3 would be amazing :D
MK Dons tonight. Hoping some fringe players like Shinji do well.
What a lethargic performance from united. Anyone who said we don't need Di Maria should watch this game again. We needed pace and direct play more than anything.
The only player that can be proud of wearing the united shirt was Jones. Outstanding defending from him. Without him we would've lost that game in my opinion.
I was so excited when Adnan and Welbeck came on. It was exactly what we needed and then LVG puts adnan in central midfield?!?!
I was hoping for 4-3-3. Adnan and Welbeck injected pace down the wings and rooney up front. But instead he plays adnan at CM. A player who has never played in CM in his entire life. Not even at u21 level. Fletcher was embarrassingly bad but I would've kept him on the pitch. Or at least move Wayne into CM.
Young was poor. His pre-season performance was a fluke. He was a liability at the back and when he was found in good spaces he still couldn't deliver the final ball. I hate it when he cuts back and does the floating ball into the box. 99% of the time the goal keeper catches it.
If he starts vs Burnley, I will flip!
Valencia wasn't the best but he at least got an assist and looked more solid at the back, compared to young. Valencia has one card up his sleeve and that is a low drilled cross and it worked fortunately. Young has nothing, honestly don't understand why he's on the pitch. Reece James and Tyler Blackett would be better options. Heck Wayne Rooney would be a better LWB than Ashley Young.
Valencia was also at fault for the goal but RVP was also to blame. AND HE DIVED AGAIN. FFS. Embarrassing the club.
Smalling looked scared off the ball at times but wasn't too bad. Yet another average performance by him. Blackett looked good, thinking back he can proud of his performance along with jones. Pretty solid.
Cleverley actually wasn't bad. Did the simple things well and kept things ticking. Grew as the game went on. Not bad.
Fletcher. Sighhhh. Poor performance.
Rooney was poor today. Didn't look at threat at all. Poor touch and just looked sloppy. 300k a week!
RVP didn't look fit but some turns were brilliant. He needs to regain match fitness ASAP.
Mata had a good first half. Made things tick and his first goal was great. Excellent run and timing. 2nd half he went missing, yet again.
Welbeck looked decent when he came on but didn't have many chances. Januzaj actually looked OK in CM but it's a shame that he wasn't on the wing. A real shame. He could've been the difference maker.
Disappointed with LVG for not changing the shape and putting Januzaj in CM.
Very concerned for this season but hopefully Di Maria will inject that pace. Real box to box player, who will boost our attack a lot. "Mata/RVP's position looks in threat" - Gary Neville.
What did you think of the game?
Yeah it is a shame he can't play yet. We really could have used Rojo.
Yup it doesn't seem like Blind is coming. Hopefully we can land Khedira. Since he's been brought to my attention he shot up my wanted list and is sittin' pretty at the top. I would have wanted him over Di Maria TBH.
Looks like we really are getting Di Maria, so I guess I'd say Rojo won't our only signing lol.
My problem with Rooney was that his off moments were so off that they pretty much counteracted his good ones. All in all I would say he was average, because aside from those really good and really bad moments, there was nothing special to what he did. We can agree to disagree though, I'm definitely in the minority on this one and I could be wrong.
I hope that the Welbeck rumours are just rumours. The most I'd be willing to entertain is a loan deal for him, but I'd ideally want him to stay and play. Hernandez doesn't fit and out of him and Welbeck he should be the one to go IMO.
I think the Xavi quote was meant differently than it was received. I think he meant it more so that his style of play isn't that different from how Xavi plays, which is actually more or less correct. It's not that he thinks he's the next Xavi or that in Spain people would think he's the next Xavi, but just that the way he plays is more appreciated in other countries. That's how I feel about it at least.
Aside from that, he hasn't looked confident on the pitch at all since he got injured. Off the pitch he's looked more confident, but during matches he always looked a bit trapped in his head and scared to try things.
What do you think of Vidal vs Khedira? Vidal is the better player, but Khedira is more of a DM. He suits our needs better IMO and would make a more logical partner for Herrera.
I disagree on certain parts of your lineup. Young may have had a disappointing game against Swansea, but he should still be the better option over James. If Rafael is fit I'd play him over Valencia because he has room to improve whereas with Valencia what we have is what we get.
In midfield I'd want to make space for Cleverley. He's shown a good desire to pass and move in preseason (when he's played as an 8), and with Fletcher or Jones behind him he could be good at driving the ball forward for us. I'd rather try him first and substitute him early if it doesn't work.
I also think that Kagawa deserves his first chance to prove himself rather than Mata getting another one after being anonymous vs both Valencia and Swansea. They are a bit interchangeable, so the one in better form should be the one playing until (if) one can show they are clearly superior to the other.
Agreed that we'll win, and I can't argue with 2-0. It's what I'd think as well.
Holy SHIZZLE we're getting Di Maria! Our next 7!
Lol. Just ask Liverpool fans how Reus/Falcao/Cavani/Remy/Sanchez are doing :')
Balotelli is a good player but he's hardly a game changer. Liverpool now have better fullbacks, more depth in midfield but they've lost 30 PL goals. Ok, Sterling will chip in with more, and Lallana etc. But will Balotelli get the rest? I doubt it tbh.
I haven't seen Besic play more than in highlights and reviews, but from all the plaudits he's getting, he's surely going to be a star.
Wow, Khedira's energy to top a solid back-line it would be great. In all honesty, I can't see us buying another defender this summer. Just a CM. Unless Di Maria is an option, then we'll be foolish to not go for him.
I'm worried because our defence of Rafael-Jones-Smalling-Rojo-Shaw isn't that great, it's decent.
Compare that to Neville-Rio-Vidic-Evra!
Me too, I'm going to the QPR game, absolutely buzzing. There'll be a protest most likely, unless we go and buy Di Maria. Even in that case, we haven't fixed our midfield issues so the protests should continue.
Yeah, I never had a problem with Mazoomy, he's a cool guy. I think he had some problems at home and took it out on me, in a misunderstanding but I'm not sure...
I agree, our team has more quality, RVP, Mata and Rooney but as a team theirs will destroy us on the break. If we get Di Maria, our team will be better. Even without a midfield. Carrick and Herrera sounds decent tbh.
Nice line up. I agree James should play LWB but it'll mostly be Young. I also think Rafael won't play instead, Valencia. Hope Rafa plays though.
I'm hoping Rooney and RVP can get us the win. Going for 2-1. C'mon VG!
Btw, have you read this?
Which line up is better and more balanced in your opinion?
Well you were right, we got Rojo, it's official! Nani is going the other way on loan, maybe because LvG still sees some promise in him. Besides, when we eventually switch to 4-3-3 we'll need cover for the wingers, and until we have that we can't go around selling all our players.
I agree that Blind may not be the best choice for CB. What I would ideally want from him is to have him operate primarily as a midfielder, and then as cover for WB and CB as necessary. I like that he provides us with that extra insurance of having him for when an injury crisis hits one of our positions and we're in desperate need of cover.
I'm losing faith again about the transfers. It's looking like Rojo might be it...
Naaa I thought Jones was the best player on the day. Rooney had his moments where he looked really good, but I also saw some stuff from him that was rather terrible, like his positioning at times and some really bad passing. Jones was really good pretty much all the way through. Agreed on Blackett, I see a real future in the kid. If he stays the way he is and remains a calm player throughout his career, we might have a Lahm-like captain option in him in the future. Sometimes you just want a guy who leads by example, and he might turn out to be that kind of player. We'll have to wait and see.
One average performance isn't enough to make me give up on him just yet. Not to mention, it was a day when the whole team looked bad. Mata looked terrible, Hernandez looked lost, Fellaini I thought did well when he tried to play as a DM but looked bad as a target man, Januzaj had terrible decision making, etc. Sure Young has a bad rep, but I think he at least deserves another chance to prove that this was a one-off poor performance and that his preseason is more indicative of how he'll play under LvG. I mean, it's not like he was just fairly good in preseason, he was one of our best performers all the way through, and the least he deserves is just another chance to show it wasn't a fluke.
I think this setup really suits Welbeck though, so I can see him continuing to perform well for us there. Like you said, we'll have to wait and see, but I think the signs are good.
That's nice to hear about Clevs. I really liked what I saw from him in preseason, his attitude looks much improved. I also noticed that lately he's been moving forward after passing a lot more, especially when he's played as the 8 rather than the 6. He looks more confident, he's trying new things, and I think the better performances will follow soon.
Rojo is done, and if you could have one player we've been linked with now who would it be? For me it'd be Blind probably because I love utility players. Vidal would be really good, but I feel like Blind is the better option to do better over a season, whereas Vidal is the better choice for toppling the big teams. I think a consistent level of ability in our players is more important right now so we can get our points together and get back into the CL, then we can think about how to be the best team out of the best, if that makes sense.
What team do you want to see against Sunderland, assuming no one else is signed? Also, Rafael is supposed to be back from injury now. I want to see:
Jones Smalling Rojo
Rafael Fellaini* Cleverley Young
* I've liked what I've seen of Fellaini in the midfield in terms of winning back possession of the ball. I seem to be in the real minority here, but under strict instructions to remain in his area and not charge forward (too much at least) I think he can be really good. Some stats to back up that up, in his last game he spent about 15 minutes playing in midfield (according to a friend who re-watched the game specifically for that reason) and he made 2 good interceptions and won a tackle. Fletcher made 3 interceptions in 90 minutes, and Herrera made 1 in 60, to put that into perspective.
** Mata has looked sub-par for 2 performances now (I actually think that has to do with Welbeck not being there), and I think Kagawa looked good in preseason and deserves a shot to start. Both are very talented, and the one in better form should be the one starting.
*** If Welbeck is fit I want him to start because he's proven he can work beside Rooney. If he isn't I think Januzaj is the best choice to give us that runner up front to stretch defenses and drop back a bit.
The one thing I like about Young is his work ethic. Relentlessly runs and never gives up. His quality on the other hand is mid table premier league club level. I hope we won't see him vs Sunderland in all honestly.
Mata won't fail though, surely not. 6 goals in his last 7, last game could just be a blip. His set pieces were still decent in that game.
Yup. Besic is a really good prospect, looks legit.
Rojo is done now :D Finally, but he's another good player, not quite great, yet. So let's hope he shines at OT.
Let's hope, because Rafa-Jones-Benatia-Rojo-Shaw looks great on paper.
I agree mate. Was impressed with him at the WC. Ultimately he played as a LB, but him and Shaw could swap and take turns attacking. It think it'll be a great addition. New number 5 maybe?
I honestly can't see Di Maria going anywhere other than PSG but I would absolutely love it!
About Mazoomy I have no idea! He was really angry at me for no reason, we were just debating about Fellaini, and then he flipped out at me over a misunderstanding. Look on his page, I don't think I said anything offensive...
Yo, what are your opinions on Marcos Rojo? Impressed you at the WC?