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David, I don't usually take the time to talk directly to another user here, but your comment was way out of line on the article about Art Briles and his statements about patriotism.
First of all, I don't see how you can refer to Baylor (yes, that is Baylor with a capital 'B') as a "little" school. Not to take things too far, but outside of football (currently) and location, we are ranked ahead of TCU in just about everything. Fort Worth is my home town, but I chose Baylor over TCU without even second-guessing myself. Better academics, better people, better environment for students. So please, respect my university in your posts or you will receive no respect in return.
Secondly, the PR firm was not hired for playoff advocacy. If you actually read into more than just media headlines, you'd know that we hired that staff to assist us with College Gameday due to our current media staff being undersized, and to help the university reach out to the media in hopes that they will stop taking so many actions and quotes out of context.
Now, I do not hate TCU. I respect the work that the team has done. It is nothing short of amazing. However, I do hate what the CFP Committee has done in their debut. They established a criteria that they do not follow. To drop Florida State to #4 is absolutely disrespectful. They have beaten every ACC team that they have faced this season, the same ACC that went 4-0 vs. the SEC in the preceding weeks. Sure, they have played most of their games to the wire with their opponents, but they win. Winning trumps everything else, and do not bother bringing up Marshall (for obvious reasons).
It is easy being a Frogs fan when the committee is in your favor. However, turn the tables and see how you would feel. Whether you like it or not, Baylor is being disrespected by the committee. There is absolutely no doubt about it. I'm throwing all bias aside to help you understand. Hell, I just advocated for Florida State, if that tells you anything.
If the committee judges teams based off of what they SEE rather than RESULTS, then we can delve into the details of Baylor and TCU...
At the time of writing this: Baylor beat TCU. We all know that. Baylor lost to West Virginia. We all know that as well. So that puts both teams at 11-1. Now, the committee (a group of individuals put together to decide who gets into the College Football Playoffs based off what they’ve done on the field this season) claims that they are holding teams who “look good” to a higher regard. There seems to be a big difference between their original purpose and their current purpose, right? Well since the committee wants to look into the “prettier” teams, we’ll look at the details.
- Football Power Index (FPI): Baylor #5; TCU #8
- Total offense: Baylor #3; TCU #20
- Offensive scoring: Baylor #1; TCU #3
- Total defense: Baylor #23; TCU #27
- Defensive Scoring: Baylor #40; TCU #26
- First downs: Baylor #1; TCU #34
- Record vs. Top 25: Baylor 2-0 (possibly 3-0 next week with win vs. KSU and OU win/2-0 if OU loses); TCU 2-1 (possibly 1-1 next week if OU loses)
Big 12 Games:
Texas: Baylor W (28-7 away); TCU W (48-10 away)
- Baylor: third straight away game; lowest offensive showing of the season; shut out Texas until garbage time (2:14 left in the 4th Q)
- TCU: only scored once from drives starting within their own territory; forced two turnovers; handed three turnovers by Tyrone Swoopes
Oklahoma: Baylor W (48-14 away); TCU W (37-33 home)
- Baylor: crushed OU, giving them their worst home loss of the Stoops era
- TCU: back-and-forth home game; pulled off last second win
Oklahoma St: Baylor W (49-28 home); TCU W (42-9 home)
- Baylor: started fast and cruised to easy win
- TCU: didn’t let up a touchdown all game
West Virginia: Baylor L (41-27 away); TCU W (31-30 away)
- Baylor: struggled with penalties mightily; first loss of season
- TCU: worst offensive game of the season; won on last-second FG
**Can be viewed the same as Baylor's win vs. TCU (except for offensive statistics)
Kansas St: Baylor NA (home game 12/6); TCU W (41-20 home)
- Baylor: play on 12/6
- TCU: dominated at home
Kansas: Baylor W (60-14 home); TCU W (34-30 away)
- Baylor: thrashed the Jayhawks through and through
- TCU: trailed for most of the game against worst team in the Big 12; hardly any crowd in attendance; defense struggled
**Can be viewed the same as Baylor's win vs. Texas Tech (but with the starting QB in for the entire game)
Iowa St: Baylor W (49-28 away); TCU NA (home game 12/6)
- Baylor: went in a dominated in Big 12 opener
- TCU: play on 12/6
Texas Tech: Baylor W (48-46 neutral); TCU W (82-27 home)
- Baylor: neutral field; defense was atrocious; let up 598 yds and 6 TDs to first-time starter; Petty knocked out on illegal hit in 3rd quarter when up by 18; won by two points after stopping two-point conversion by Tech
- TCU: stepped on gas pedal and never let up; kept starters in and ran up score until the 4th Q (was winning 68-27)
**Can be viewed the same as TCU's win vs. Kansas (except without starting QB for much of the game)
Baylor vs. TCU:
- Check the box scores and tell me who dominated.
**Can be viewed the same as TCU's win vs. West Virginia (except for offensive statistics)
Once again, I am not saying that TCU doesn’t deserve to be in the playoffs; they do. But the stats don’t pan out the way that the committee thinks. There are plenty of stats to point to, but these are the stats that make a team “look pretty." Maybe next weekend things will change if both teams win, who knows? But if the committee wants to play it by eye and not by quality, then what good reason do they have for ranking Baylor three spots below TCU? I would really like to know.
Wow, I never saw your response regarding the OU David Persons. Are you at the Star-Telegram now? If so, do you know my old college buddy Vince Langford (I'm sure you do). He was at OU's student newspaper with David and me. If you were at the Star Telegram in the 70s (you don't look old enough to have been) did you know Wilma Wirt? She was my mentor and a large part of my confidence factor that helped me be one of the first full-time women sportswriters in the country.
Guess you're gearing up for the Big Dance. I'm in Hartford, CT area now. Everyone is bemoaning the breakup of the Big East. I was in the thick of it when I was a sportswriter in Hartford (1975-87).
Thanks for the info on the OU David.
Enjoy the basketball!
David, good to know I’m not the only one that couldn’t find anything.
Although we may not agree on everything, I’m always looking forward to reading your comments. It’s always refreshing reading what someone has to say with reasoning and realistic thought, regardless of whether I agree or not. This is what makes college football so exciting!
I actually haven’t graduated yet, to be completely honest with you. My interests are way too broad and I keep stacking on additional majors – maybe I’ll graduate from college eventually. I’m actually not even of the drinking age either, so we should probably pick something else to wager! How about... If Texas loses, I’ll take a picture of myself wearing a TCU shirt at the next Thanksgiving game and show it to you for evidence. The only reason why I have so many years at NASA JSC is because I started formal research at a very young age and was noticed at a science conference. I started my formal education at an early age so that response to Lionel suggests I’m much older than I actually am. I do share the same feeling though on lying about academic credentials. I tried checking back at the article but I guess the author removed the responses.
Either way I’m glad you feel the same way. I have much respect for many of the posters on these B/R boards and I stepped in when Lionel insulted ‘jay l’ on the board. I’m used to individuals trolling on the internet, but I can’t help but become annoyed when a respectable individual sharing a reasoned response becomes the target of unnecessary insult on these boards in particular.
I’m very happy with the addition of TCU to the conference. You guys really have a solid team and I’m sure the Horned Frogs will have a great season. Outside of 2010, I’m more worried about this Thanksgiving game than any other in memory. Good luck this year! I’m sure it will be a wild and bumpy ride for all of us.
Thanks David, I appreciate the compliment on my writing (unless you meant you read it and figured if I could do it anyone could haha!) It'll be nice to have another writer writing about TCU. I'm an MMA Featured columnist and work with the Trends and Traffic team so I don't get to write about the Frogs as much as I'd like.
That's awesome you're going to some games. As a misplaced TCU fan in Ohio, I don't get to see them in person very often but I did serve as a ball boy when I was in high school when the team played in Cincinnati. I have tickets to the West Virginia game this year so I'm hoping to make that a bi-yearly tradition.
I don't know if they can win the title but I certainly hope so, Big 12 is wide open the way I see it.
Like I said, I look forward to reading more of your stuff and if you ever have any questions or anything don't hesitate to contact me! Go Frogs!
Hey David, see you're writing articles on here now—pretty cool! I look forward to reading more of your stuff and hope you're as pumped for this season of Frogs football as I am!
Hey David, just ran across your name here in the Bleacher Report and wondered if you are the David Persons I worked with on The Oklahoma Daily during the early 70s? If so, how the heck are you and what are you doing these days? Ginny Apple
@David: You strike me as a hail-fellow albeit a bit wordy.
-Pink Elephant Cult meetings? Does it cost to join?
-moral compass? ebay is out of stock, can't find one
-"most insecure, arrogant, self-absorbed group of deluded" Got to throw a flag here:that by definition is an ad hominem attack maybe even a tirade?
- "eccentric opinion" was mine first so you can't throw it back on me.
My good man, I see you want stats? A professor of mine once told me you can prove anything with stats. "Statically the safest place in a thunderstorm is on top of the courthouse steeple because no one has ever been killed up there in a thunderstorm." *
I get the whole conspiracy thing and yes Alabama peps are vocal because we are on top right now and really what better time than when your on top. I say enjoy it cause nothing like this last ... see ND, Miami etc
About what Alabama claims is up for debate but as long as they didn't award themselves a NC I can't blame them for accepting one from some organization. Also keep in mind that others schools were also awarded NC under the same rules ( the all things being equal argument )
We are happy having that glass football and when people criticized us we just say " look how pretty and shiny it is"
Roll Tide My Good Man
* I would credit him but can not recall his name.
David, glad you enjoy the articles and don't worry about the comments in my article, I understand. I appreciate the support and feel free to follow me on twitter @joepenkala as I always interact on there with followers as well
Cool, man! I expect to see a lot more TCU articles now. I'll spend some time working on my application, but I was also chosen as a Community Leader (still not sure what that is), so I'll see how that turns out. Congratulations, though.
No problem. Dude... We're in the Big XII, officially now. I still can't believe it...