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I've become very interested in the debate of players' chances into the Hall of Fame. It's a great honor to even be mentioned when it comes to H.O.F. eligibility. Mike Mussina called it a career recently and his name has come up about getting into Cooperstown. Lets set the record straight first. Mussina has 270 victories and was a five-time All Star. He left Baltimore for the big stage in New York. However, his career as a Yankee never reached the point that it was with the Orioles. Mussina never won a Cy Young or an MLB Title. His postseason record of 7-9 didn't stand out either. I can remember some moments of greatness for Mussina but just not enough to warrant a trip to Cooperstown.
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about 1 month ago
okay - put the pipe down now. Maybe if Moose was on a team that actually had an offense earlier in his career than he would have more wins...though I never look at wins as how to gauge a pitcher because it relies on his teams offense.
Moose was the best Yankee Pitcher since his arrival in 2001 - the best on the team. When not injured (3 out of 6 yrs) he led the Yanks in inngs pitched, era and post season success. Without Moose the Yanks wouldnt have made the play offs at all - especially in 2006 when every other starter went out with injuries.
He is a Maddox type pitcher and doesnt get wide spread recognition b/c he couldnt throw 98.
He leaves a huge gaping hole that will not be filled easily at all. I hope he pulls a Favre and comes back - he is essential to NY making it to the post season in the first yr of the new stadium - its that simple
about 1 month ago
I question your reasoning.
The main stats you use are wins and all-star appearances. Wins rely on run supports while there are better stats out there to support him: WHIP, ERA+, K/BB, and if you're really that into wins, look at win/loss %. All-star appearances only takes the first half of the season into account and Mussina was always a guy who was better down the stretch.
So what if he doesn't have a cy young? A cy young means you had an exceptional season and nothing beyond that. Mussina was extremely consistent year after year and during the 90's, he was always in the running for cy young.
And for postseason success, he has a career postseason ERA of 3.42. A K/BB ratio of nearly five. An average of seven innings per start in the playoffs. He wasn't like a Josh Beckett or a Sandy Koufax in October, but he's still been a solid pitcher at that time.
about 1 month ago
Clayton, with all due respect, you offer very limited info.
I agree that Mussina can be on the fence--his detractors can make the case as can his supporters. I don't think it's a given he'll make it to Cooperstown.
But, you left it at the opening remarks. You didn't make the case against Mussina at all.
about 1 month ago
He may only have 270 wins, but he only has 153 losses. That's a career winning record of 63.8%, better than that of Nolan Ryan, Cy Young, or Phil Niekro. He had 11 or more wins in each of the past 17 seasons, even with his injury problems, and is in the top-20 all-time in strikeouts.
Mussina is a stud, and deserves to be in the hall of fame.
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