The past few weeks haven’t been savory at all for the All Reds - a string of draws in the league and a hard-fought rematch against the Luton in the FA Cup were all they could earn.We know that the present unrest at Liverpool has instilled a downtrodden morale among the players, which is costing them valuable points in the league.
So who is to blame for this?
I hold Rafael Benitez solely responsible for the club’s recent lackluster performance. So, the co-owners don’t understand football or the transfer market, does this mean they are not meddling with the team line-ups?
There are some valid reasons as to why I’ve made such a bold statement. Before you scousers rave at me, I want you to have a walk down memory lane and assess Liverpool’s seasons under Rafa.
It’s a harsh reality, but Liverpool is the most successful club in England in terms of winning league trophies, and Rafael Benitez was called on for the reprise of those glorious years.
Barren years for a club of Liverpool’s stature is certainly not a satisfactory fact for a Reds supporter is it?
However, Rafa came in, took the club by storm, changed everything right down to the feet and the outcome was a European glory - its first UEFA Champions League title or fourth European Cup. But what about the league?
Same old story: fourth place.
Things even got worse for them in the following season when they finished fifth, but still managed to defend their title unsuccessfully by virtue of UEFA’s benevolence.
If Rafa has only been brought for European and Domestic Cup success, then I suppose Gerard Houllier was better. Remember the year 2001 when Houllier won a bizarre treble for the club- FA Cup, UEFA Cup and League Cup?
He even took Liverpool to second and third in one or two occasions, but look what Rafa has done?
Houllier didn’t go for lavish spending like Rafa, and still won the trophies he wished to win (except the EPL).
Houllier didn’t have a star-studded squad, though Michael Owen and Steven Gerrard were playing at the top of their game. He didn’t even grumble for transfer window fundings, and spent with prudence according to the needs of the club.
Granted Rafa didn’t have a multi-star team which won them the Champions League, but if you take that glory out of this equation, then you may question why Liverpool are still holding on to Rafa.
We’ve seen in the previous seasons how many serial signings Rafa made, and how many rotations he made in his starting line-ups, and how many players he kicked out.
The rule of thumb for a manager has always been that after several rotations, if you have found the winning team, cling on to that and give it a run. But why Rafa needs to be unorthodox here?
It’s obvious that he doesn’t want to disappoint the bench-warmers or his backup players, but what’s the point then to have such a ginormous squad?
Apart from injuries, I don’t see any logic behind this, but then again the question comes that how many players can get injured in a club? Hundreds?
I hope you’re not still in memory lane. If you are, then just fast forward and look at this horrible season of the Reds.
After an albeit jaw dropping start to the season, Liverpool has suddenly started to forget how to win.. They are loosing points on the occasions they were expected to win comfortably.
Don’t you think with the likes of Torres, Babel, the evergreen Steve G. and Carragher the Red Army should roll on?
If there’s any positivism that Liverpool can take from this season so far, that would be the acquisition of a top draw striker-Fernando Torres, who has been the savior for them.
To wrap up my critique, all I can see is a lackluster, boring, last gasp winning: Liverpool and hanging to the fourth position forever until they see off the Spaniard and look for a fresh start under a new manager.
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8 months ago
I believe what Rafa does at Liverpool fc , so not any team in premiership or in the world 'can't fly' how are you saying ...
8 months ago
Hope you are not heading to Liverpool anytime soon mate haha. I'm sure we haven't heard the last on this topic.
from 8 months ago
lol...never eve going to Liverpool..not Anfield at least...the stands are not clean!!!
8 months ago
I agree with some points but I think the rotation is not the only problem.. player motivation and belief amongst the players, doesn't seem to be there at the moment, it could be down to the departure of Pako Ayesteran last August, or just that the players simply aren't passionate enough any more.
Rafa will be given till the end of the season, to see if he can redeem himself at all, its not often Liverpool chuck a manager in the middle of a season...
By the way we won the european cup 5 times not 4!!
8 months ago
Why should anyone care what a Man Utd fan thinks about the performance of Raphael Benitez?
Rotation is not the problem here. Rotation is a fact of life at the top level in football these days. The game is dramatically faster today than it was even 5 years ago. Teams playing at the top level can expect to be playing twice a week almost every week for the entire season (with champions league, FA cup, etc). Expecting the same 14 players to do it every week is ridiculous. So you must rotate.
Benitez has quite a good core in his first team (Reina, Carragher, Agger (when fit), Macherano, Alonso (not himself this season), Gerrard and of course Torres). Look at that list ... Most of his best players are defensive in nature. Now compare with your beloved Man Utd. Utd's riches are all in attack (I have never rated Mr Narcolepsy, Rio Ferdinand). Even Chelsea have stronger attacking options (and they're a very defensive team).
The problem is that if Rafa's big name players don't do it for him his other options just aren't as good. The other options are mostly mid price players (what he could afford at the time since he need quantity) like the much maligned Kuyt (who is rubbish but scored goals for fun in Holland). Those kind of players are good enough to keep you in fourth (or third last year) but not really enough to push on when those above you are spending 15-25 million pounds on attacking options almost every season.
The exception is of course Wenger who also has 20 million pound players but he buys them when they're 15 years old. Benitez is trying to do the same thing (that's the long term plan) but long term plans need time. The kind of time Wenger and Ferguson have been given.
8 months ago
I've not written this article for people to care, rather to share my views...it's an open source network MR. Anonymous.
I'ven't said that Rotation is a bad thing, or express it any negative sense. Sir Alex and Wenger also make rotations, but as i said, when u need wins and finally get a starting 11 capable of that, stick to the same team...
Howvever, yes u r spot on regarding the fact that even our defenders are aggresive, but here's the irony..we have the best defence in the EPL...
Anyways, time is indeed an important factor and it depends on the patience of the fans and owners/chairman. United are lucky to have a chairman in the likes of Sir Bobby Charlton..
let's see what lies ahead..
8 months ago
I apologize I meant no offense. As a Liverpool fan of 30 years it's difficult to watch the ridiculous stuff going on now.
That's an interesting point about defenders. I think the stats about Utd's defense are a little deceptive. I'm not saying they're not really good (Vidic and Evra are exceptional and Ferdinand is good as long as he stays awake, Neville is very good too although I hate to say it). I'm saying that most teams are so afraid of losing to Utd by double figures they sit extremely deep and commit very little to attack. So the back four never really comes under pressure. Also they have a couple of very good defensive midfielders (Hargreeves is good although I think Macherano is better).
Liverpool do not strike the same fear into opponents. Liverpool simply don't have the same attacking resources as Utd so breaking down teams who come to defend isn't quite as easy. The speed and ingenuity of Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs and Tevez means that Ferguson doesn't really need overlapping full backs and so doesn't expose his defense as much by over-committing to attack. Compare that to Liverpool. Only Torres can be said to be in the same league. Crouch needs to go while he's still worth something. Babbel needs to get more playing time.
In the end it comes down to money. Man Utd have the luxury of spending their 40 million annual budget on one or two players and those can be quite young since there isn't pressure to produce immediately.
Wenger can compete since he inherited a very good team and has slowly evolved the club into what it is today. Also when he's need money he's had it more or less.
Mourinho inherited a very expensive team and added more really expensive players to it.
I think Benitez should stay since I really believe he's taking things in the right direction and what do you replace him with? I don't think Mourinho could do it without lots of money. I don't think anyone could do it without lots of money. Give Benitez a reasonable budget (which needs to be spent on quality wingers) and one more year.
Hicks & Gillette need to go as soon as possible. They have not lived up to their promises.
from 8 months ago
Rafa has had enuf money b4 the Americans took over...what's the point of signing 11 mediocre players if u can sign 5 quality players with relatively the same amount of money,,
the bottomline is Rafa tinkers too much...
8 months ago
Sorry Sheik.....I have to correct you on this one....Bobby Charlton isn't our chairman? he's a member of the board of directors but he aint chairman? David Gill is chairman. OK now that is out the way....
I think Benitez will go at the end of the season. The american owners are starting to become a little dissillusioned with Rafa's ways, that I'm sure of. whether it's the right move I dont know but I DO think that Liverpool have been playing the same way for years....every now and then they have an awesome start to the season, only to grow tired quickly and start to slow down, dropping unnecessary points and making foolish errors.
Gone are the days when a manager is given time to turn a club aroud. Let's not forget, Alex Ferguson was on the verge of being sacked by Man United after a terrible run of not doing very well and not winning a single trophy for nigh on 5 years! That would never happen in today's game.....that's the top and tail of it.
from 8 months ago
Actually, Jeol and Avram Glazers are United's Chairen..David Gill, as i knew, is the Chief Executive, like Peter Kenyon at Chelsea. Sr Bobby is the head of the Board of Directors
Anyways, the problem is the demand of the fans. IN those days, the fans weren't that much demanding or rowdy like these days. We are lucky that Sir Alex wasn't sacked during that time as u mentioned!
8 months ago
as i liverpool fan it would have been nice if Sir Alex was sacked after a couple of years without producing
cause today they would have very little or probably nothing.
Rafas mistake was looking too far into the season to soon with his rotation policy and as a smart man would probably learn from his mistakes.
hopefully there is a clean out at liverpool cause half the players do not deserve the badge, enough medioka need a player pay for them
its not Rafa that should go it is Gillette and Hicks bring in the Arabs at least they truly love the game.
Guys please just take your 75 mill + and move on not a bad years work is it
8 months ago
ok, if we get rid of Rafa, who would you suggest we replace him with? I was appalled with the news that the owners contacted Klinsmann... I dont rate him at all. So, who do you think would make Liverpool good enough to win the league. The only person I can think of would be Jose Mourinho. But would he come to Liverpool?
from 8 months ago
Welll..Mourniho of ccourse...that guy can do miracles...he has won 5 trophies for chelsea in just three seasons...but if Liverpool wanna stick to Rafa so desperately, then he neds a hell lot of time.may be more 5/6 years to bring the league title. Will, you the fans wait for that much?
it all comes down to your demand
8 months ago
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that, but you are not saying anything that everyone else hasn't been saying for a long time. Everyone outside of Liverpool are throwing their two bits in when they should be looking at the facts a bit more.
I think it has been proven that Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal rotate just as much as Benitez but the difference is they have much more funds to spend therefore the quality they have is of a wider margin than Liverpools.
When it comes to the spine of a team I would take Liverpool over anyone else, but it's the bit part players that make the difference. Liverpool have the likes of Voronin (free) Kuyt(8m) Babbel (7m) Crouch (7m) Machserano (loan) Beneyoun (6m).........then you look at Utd and they have the likes of Nani (14m?) Carrick (18m) Ferdinand (30m!!!!) Hargreaves (15m)
Yes Liverpool have Torres and he was 19m but Utd have Rooney who was around 28m!!
What I'm getting at is rotation is not the problem, the problem is the money that Benitez is bieng given to spend. Dont get me wrong he has made mistakes alot of them.....but so did Alex Ferguson and if I remember correctly he was one game away from bieng fired in 1990, just imagine if that had of happened.
When the Yanks took over they said they would sign "snoogy doggy" if Benitez wanted him, and they also said how privilged they felt to work with a manager of his caliber. Now a few months on and when Benitez wants to sign someone they say no and go actively looking for a new manager behind his back.
In my eyes there are 2 culprits here......and they are a long way away from Anfield
8 months ago
Contreversy. I disagree with you mate. I feel that Rafa has given Liverpool even more of a worldwide fan base and he has done this not by winning the Premier League, but winning the biggest club competition in the world... the champions league.
Some may question Rafa's rotational tactics, but if he didn't do it, the players who he didn't play would leave and he would have no quality back up. Liverpool have never been a good league team because they have never come flying out of the blocks in the style of a United or Chelsea. Liverpool in recent years have always have had a tough pre-season with competitive fixtures.
With the advent of transfers brought it by Rafa, it takes time for the new team to gel. If Liverpool score more goals they will be premiership contenders. But till then, expect mediocracy in the league, but fantasy in the CL.
8 months ago
Just let Rafa win the cup this season.... Then Mourinho to take over next season....
Prob wont happen... but hey.... there is always hope....!
8 months ago
I'm a Liveprool fan, an honest one. We are a team that has less funds than Man U and Chelsea, so they are stronger teams than us at preset. Arsenal do not have the funds of Man U or Chelsea either, but Wenger is absolutely unbeatable at taking young players and nurturing them into being great players. Therefore, we are really number four in the country currently. If you look at Thierry Henry, he was only "good" before he went to Arsenal. He was a young talent in the French squad, but didn't perform in the 1998 world cup despite being on the winning side. He then went to Arsenal and for me became the more exciting striker of the last 10 years.
8 months ago
Bring in Dr Mourinho he's the man to clean up Liverpool's mess. He did it at Porto... won their domestic & Championships leagues for them and on his first year at Chelsea he won them the EPL title. No offence to Rafa but technically Mourinho is a much better tactician. If you want to win the EPL then Dr Mourinho is the man.
8 months ago
........................caryying on from me last comment......
If you put Torres with Wenger (lay off gooners, he's going nowhere) he would become another Henry. At Liverpool under Benitez, I sense he will stay a couple of years, then leave in frustration. In fact, we all know that our captain, Mr G, was sitting on the fence for a while when offered a move to Chelsea. If you have a fantastic manager in place, or large funds to play with you are are at least one step ahead of the Liverpool team. However, there is a fantastic enthusiasm for the game at Liverpool. It's in the stands and it's in it's purest form.
8 months ago
I would never entertain Mourinho at Liverpool. he is an arrogant fuck and would spoil the spirit of the club. Why not Martin O Neil????
from 8 months ago
Leave the Liverpool Manager alone. He doing very good job. Liverpool are the best team!!!
8 months ago
Rafa Benitez is a top manager and has brought home european glory also won the FA Cup and Carling Cup so all we are waiting on is the Premiership then hes won the lot so i say FUCK OFF and leave the man alone if anyone should go its the YANKS
from 8 months ago
when did he win Carling Cup????
8 months ago
Arguably the most inaccurate and factually flawed article I've read on the topic of Liverpool and Rafa.
Houllier didn't go for lavish spending?
Heskey - £11m
Hamann - £8m
Smicer - £4.2m
Diouf - £10m
Barmby - £6m
Ziege - £5.5m
Cisse - £9m
Kirkland - £6m
Cheyrou - £4m
Diao - £5m
Hmmmm.
How many games have Carragher, Reina, Torres, Gerrard missed recently? The spine is rarely rotated. The "R" word is a myth...
from 8 months ago
If u call this a lavish spending then what wud u call Rafa's 11 signings this season only...i believe the list u have given are Houllier's buys in his entire carrier.
it may b factually flawed or whatever article to you, but look at Rafa's spending so far (this January as well) and compare that with Houllier's one.. then come back to swear at me...
from 8 months ago
Ok..here's a stat for u---Rafa spent £140 m going into his fourth season..that's more than twice Houllier spent...what wud u say now? Flawed...!!! haha
thanks to the "spine' for which Livpool has been drawing games recently...
8 months ago
i think you should not be worrying about liverpool as you are a man united fan!! i know everyone is entitled to their opinion but i think you should have kept yours to yourself. how long has rafa been at lfc? less than 5 years!! how long did it take alex fergie to start winning !! it took him 5 to 6 years!! everyone was calling for him to be sacked and yet he stayed on and won so much!! its all a matter of patience and i believe rafa is the man who can do it for liverpool!! if you believe otherwise then goodluck to you mate!!! and remember one thing when u a liverpool supporter "U WILL NEVER WALK ALONE"
riyaz ahmed kadar
from 8 months ago
that was 18 yeas back!!! in thise days the fans were not as demanding as they are these days.
You haven't seen six or seven EPL managers sacked in a season in those days did u?
the fans were much more patient, so were the chairmen, board of directors, and the owners.
Rafa is classy manager, but at this point iof time, things are not really going in his way..
8 months ago
what has liverpool's problem been over the past few years? consistency! the rotational policy can rest players for cup matches and explain how liverpool are still doing well in europe, but it destroys any momentum they have for their real goal--the title! i won't call for rafa's sacking, but i won't be too disappointed if it goes through
8 months ago
who is this dude? Sheikh?? he really has no clue, doesnt he... gezz...what a stupid thread
from 8 months ago
appreciate ur comment...but cud have been better.
I really do have more football savvy than you..just in case if u question
8 months ago
Typical awful non factual drivel that has come to this site from this 'author' too often.
Sadly all this can possibly generate is a storm of anti author comments, not because of the subject, but more because the prose is at best misguided and at worst simple lies.
Research - try it, you might manage to write something worth reading. Currently ytou are just writing something that demenas you.
from 8 months ago
too often? well how many threads of mine have u read mr nameless?
research? well, i dont aim at darkness when i do what i m doing...
if u dont like the topic, ignore it...but don't talk sth which is as sound as yourself-meaningless!!!
8 months ago
This guy is a tool.
8 months ago
how do you know the stands are not clean if you never ever go to Liverpool nor Anfield? I was in the Kop the other night and it was clean. So you are clearly wrong. Anfield is in great condition for it's age.
8 months ago
you're an idiot.
as it was commented earlier, houllier did spend lavishly earlier, especially relative with what was going on at the time. and a lot of the money rafa spent came from sales (some of tehm being houlliers terrible buys).
also, you moron, we finished 5th in '05, not 4th. and it was our 5th european cup, not our fourth.
tell me you are not studying journalism, coz u haven't got a chance.
and as a manc 'fan,' please do tell me what alex ferguson won in his first 4 years at united. i'll give you a hint. it starts with fu*k and ends with all. and even after that he won teh fa cup, something rafa already has. muppet.
from 8 months ago
Apologies for saying that was Liv'pool's fourth..
if youy don't call a 140 million expenditure a lavish one, then i doubt your definition of lavishness..
look at the stats above, as one anonymous guy wrote it...
i m not studying and wont study journalism...gud one tho...
At least Sir Alex didn't go for lavissh spending like Rafa and still gt 1 FA Cup iand a European Cup winner's cup.
THe point is, Rafa has a ba of talents, but still not getting the best out of them...
8 months ago
and don't go attacking people coz they sign off as anonymous.
it's mostly coz they don't want to register to a site that seems to talk such bollocks. who'd want to subscribe to the bullshi* you seem to write.
8 months ago
Can someone stop this madness.A so called man u fan says sack Benitez.In response he has been told why he should and should not go.By good liverpool fans who know football
PLEASE NO ONE ELSE RESPOND
8 months ago
Sorry but as a loyal Liverpool fan of 28 years i have to say something... This Sheik guy knows absolutely shite about footie... Hell, he doesn't even know whats going on in his own Manure team. So, Mr Sheik "I know Fuck-all" why dont u keep ur inane stupid comments to urself as u obviously don't know ur facts. Rafa is the man for Liverpool FC. The yanks should go fuck themselves and learn more about "soccer" and realise that they have a genius on their hands in Benitez... And u my dear friend Sheik should go join them.
In Rafa We Trust and he'll never walk alone!!!
8 months ago
Liverpool obviously having a bad spell in the league. The best we can aim for is 3rd.
We still have a good chance to pick up another FA cup and go for number 6 in europe.
Yes we want to win the league, need to build foundation for anoher run next year. In the meantime lets go for the real cup double!
8 months ago
Sheikh i know every one's entitled for their opinion but i think you are way of the mark .You say Rafa has spent 140 mill in 4 years, how much has Ferguson spent in the last decade ? Remember Veron,Rud V Nroy,Rio Ferdinand,Wayne Rooney,Ronaldo,Nani,Anderson,Hargreaves,Carrick,Saha and the list goes on and on and on. Another question out of the so called "140 mill" how much money has been available at one given transfer window before this summer ?? hardly 20 mill and the truth my dear friend is that for that sum of money you can hardly get a top class player. The fact is United have always had a bigger transfer kitty than Liverpool. I am also not saying Rafa is blame less, but making Rafa the escape goat is a senseless.
from 8 months ago
decade and 4 yrs aren't same mate..
Ruud, Rio and Veron didn't come in the same season i believe
however, if u scale them to the same length by any means, you can't do the same with our success....
thanks for not being so rude as others were..thanks!
8 months ago
What a load of crap. "I hold Rafael Benitez solely responsible for the club’s recent lackluster performance." And I suppose you'd put in your best work if every day your boss was doing everything in his power to undermine your position? But you just want to hit an easy target.
Opinions are like arseholes mate, everyone's got one and most of them (like yours) stink.
Joe, 25 year veteran fan of the mighty Reds.
8 months ago
"decade and 4 yrs aren't same mate..", i know that as well and that is what Ferguson has had. He's been there for a long time, can u tell me one player who's in the united squad that he didn't buy ? he's had the opportunity to do what ever he wants to do with the squad, he has never faced problems with Money. United have spent 28 mill on a defender, over 24 mill on a teenage striker ie: Rooney, when was the last time Liverpool did that. Before this summer we hardly spent a total of 25 mill in a single window.
So the question is would Ferguson be able to do what Rafa has done with the same kind of transfer kitty and the level of players ? Champions league in the 1st season especially with the squad we had at that time, call it fluke or what you may. I just think this is a unfair Criticism and that also coming from a United fan this is unacceptable.
I know you'll find a way to tell me i am wrong. So let me write this in capital letters "IF YOU DON'T WANT HARSH COMMENTS/REPLIES THEN WRITE SOMETHING SENSIBLE".
from 8 months ago
logic and sensibility are the only virtues that some of you Liverpool fans are missing..
United also didnt spend 28 m an d 25 m in a single window...granted we have more money than Liverpool (thanks to our munificent owners!) ..
But we haven't made SERIAL signings like Rafa..what's the point of making 11/12 signings in a window (this summer) if you can buy 5/6 world class players with the same amount
Some of u guys are really out of your mind, like Rafa has been with most of his pointless transfers..
from 8 months ago
sorry Anonymous, name one person in the United squad that Ferguson didn't buy??? What, like the Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Brown's of this team, plus the Cathcart, Simpson, Eagles of this world who are the next generation coming through...not to mention The Butt, Beckham, P Neville's of the past who've all gone elsewhere, but originally were BROUGHT THROUGH THE RANKS. Nobody 'bought' them, and they were the foundation to our current League winning squad.
When transfer kitty talk comes into play, yes ferguson has spent millions on creating new squads time and time again, But where ferguson succeeds, is he always takes his time, buying 1 or 2 players per season, which explains why he can afford to drop 28 Mill on Rooney, or 30 Mill on Ferdinand. When you mess with a teams chemistry too much you are asking for failure. Teams have to be given times to gel as do managers so in that respect I don't think Rafa should be sacked. But his problem is bringing in 6 and 7 players a year to try and totally rejuvenate a squad and expect to win everything immediately.
This season I would think the best plan of action for Benitez, would be to sell off some of the dead wood to generate transfer funds, and buy 1 or 2 good players....AT MOST! and then let them settle in and the team gel properly.
And as far as the "Yanks" go in all this, they are not to blame for the teams failures on the pitch. Granted they will maybe hold back on giving the manager more money, because they probably see from previous seasons that blowing money on players who frankly don't give a crap about the shirt they are wearing didn't work. When all's said and done it's Rafa's job to get results and I don't see it happening if he carries on the way he is.
8 months ago
2 Points.....
1- Why is Liverpool being a successfull club a harsh reality? whats harsh about being great?
2- Why is Arsene Wngers job not at risk then? he hasnt won a thing for a few years. The reason is that the club know what a quality manager he is and that hes doing the best things for them. Wenger has brought in quality young players but i suppose Benitez has not?? if thats the case than who are the following players?
1-Insua
2- Mascherano
3- Lucas
4- Torres
5- Hobbs
6- BabeL
Our youth team are the best in the country and reserve team is jam packed full of young kids who will one day become fantastic players. I sincerely hope Mr Hicks considers this rather than listen to people like you who obviousely ahve no interest or knowledge about Liverpool football club.
from 8 months ago
Torres is 14..not that young as u like...yep Babel is class
Liverpool's youth team may be one of the best in the country,,considering the once wonder kid Neil Mellor
If Rafa banked on youngsters then y idi he let him go? he was brilliant..he's trying his luck with variety of players and combinations.
How many youth players apart from Hobbs that u have seen promoted to and playing for livpool these days??
I dont want him to get the axe (as long as he keeps Liverpool in the mediocrity), but the owners, the board of directors, and your very own Rick Parry doesn't want him
from 8 months ago
oopss...i meant 24 for Torres
8 months ago
i got fed up before finishing the article as half the statistics you pulled up from god knows where aren't even true. Either that or you just can't write things in order, or you're a toffee bastard and just trying to irritate us all with your meager existence. I don't care which one it is, just shut up. Your opinion is neither valid nor wanted.
from 8 months ago
"as half the statistics you pulled up from god knows where aren't even true"..that just shows how less u knw abt Liverpool,being its fan. just take a hike man....u r the only guy to have doubted the stats that i have put up...apart from the fact that i 've abt Liverpool winning European cup 4 times (which shud have been 5)
8 months ago
great read! u kopites & mancses never cease 2amuse me.
my verdict. give rafa a chance, he has done more than fergie did with the lil time he has spent.
sheik! go get ur stats right and learn to objectively study football , u stink.
ninzamgoona
8 months ago
great read! u kopites & mancses never cease 2amuse me.
my verdict. give rafa a chance, he has done more than fergie did with the lil time he has spent.
sheik! go get ur stats right and learn to objectively study football , u stink.
ninzamgoona
from 8 months ago
look u moron..study some football and come back...my stats are as correct as your being an asshole is..
Perhaps the stats are not so glorious for you looser scousers thats why u seem to rage at these..
United were in the bottom half of the league table when Fergie took over and it took him 5 seasons to change things around and bring the league titles home..
And u bloody scousers have been lying in the fourth positoin for the last 6/7 seasons, and in his 4 years at charge, Rafa seemed to only fluctuate--once finishing 5th...
look at ur posiiton now u cockeyes--4th consecutive draw....and u want Rafa to stay and dream of bringing league title with him..haha..beyond ur wildest dreams
8 months ago
Sheikh, I'm afraid to say that just because others haven't picked up on your factual errors, doensn't mean they haven't been made.
A few points:
1) In what way was the 2001 treble bizarre?
2) Liverpool finished 5th the season we won the Champions League, not the one after. That was the reason we qualified for the Champions League the next season and why Everton were so concerned about us being let in.
3) The Houllier signings mentioned above were far from his only ones.
4) Of the 11 players you claim Liverpool signed in the summer transfer window (and I would love you to tell me them all!!) how many were bought for the first team and if they weren't, how are you able to judge them? Are you a regular at the Youth games at Melwood or the Reserves at Warrington?
5) IN ISTANBULLLLLLLLLLL WE WON IT 5 TIMES (3 more than your lot)
6) Your point about United spending money on one big signing per window is just wrong. What about this summer? The Shite bought Anderson (around £17million), Nani (around £12million), Hargreaves (£18million) and you made a laon deal worth an estimated £25million for Tevez. I'm no maths experts but that amounts to almost £40 million without the Tevez deal.
7) Your dig at Anfield being dirty is just childish in the extreme - have you even been there, or to any game in England for that matter?
I appreciate you want to express an opinion, but if you are going to set yourself up for criticism it might be better to have a rather more structured, fact-based argument.
Anyway, all the best, "Walk on with hope (of better articles) in your heart"
from 8 months ago
Our deals of Anderson and Tevez have worth it...just look at them now...they are simply magnificent..Anderson will give Scholes a good fight for place when he returns. Hargreaves is injury prone so he doesnt start regularly..Nani is also fbulous but Giggs has got more quality..
1...your treble was bizarre coz Carling, FA and UEFA Cup is not kinda 'fitting' treble in comparsion to a Champs League, League title and FA Cup..but that's a treble after all
2. ya..i got mixed up with that one...sorry abt that and i did admit my mistake above!
3. i am sure Houllier made much signings than those mentioned above by sb else...at least he didn't rob his owners as Benitzes is itching to do
4. i dont need to go and see your reserve and youth..the results are being shown on the pitch and they are enuf to asses Liverpool's position now..if they have good prospects, then y Rafa doesn't hava a go with them? y does he need to buy countless players in every window??
5. yep..another howler...
6. i said it in the beginning
THanks for ur appreciation, and i think i have put up enuf VALID stats and facts to vouch my opinion of sacking Rafa...
4 consecutive games without a win..not even playing against the other big three..it has really summed up yet another disappointing season for the loosers..
pity really...
8 months ago
Sheikh, I'm afraid to say that just because others haven't picked up on your factual errors, doensn't mean they haven't been made.
A few points:
1) In what way was the 2001 treble bizarre?
2) Liverpool finished 5th the season we won the Champions League, not the one after. That was the reason we qualified for the Champions League the next season and why Everton were so concerned about us being let in.
3) The Houllier signings mentioned above were far from his only ones.
4) Of the 11 players you claim Liverpool signed in the summer transfer window (and I would love you to tell me them all!!) how many were bought for the first team and if they weren't, how are you able to judge them? Are you a regular at the Youth games at Melwood or the Reserves at Warrington?
5) IN ISTANBULLLLLLLLLLL WE WON IT 5 TIMES (3 more than your lot)
6) Your point about United spending money on one big signing per window is just wrong. What about this summer? The Shite bought Anderson (around £17million), Nani (around £12million), Hargreaves (£18million) and you made a laon deal worth an estimated £25million for Tevez. I'm no maths experts but that amounts to almost £40 million without the Tevez deal.
7) Your dig at Anfield being dirty is just childish in the extreme - have you even been there, or to any game in England for that matter?
I appreciate you want to express an opinion, but if you are going to set yourself up for criticism it might be better to have a rather more structured, fact-based argument.
Anyway, all the best, "Walk on with hope (of better articles) in your heart"
8 months ago
Sheikh, I'm afraid to say that just because others haven't picked up on your factual errors, doensn't mean they haven't been made.
A few points:
1) In what way was the 2001 treble bizarre?
2) Liverpool finished 5th the season we won the Champions League, not the one after. That was the reason we qualified for the Champions League the next season and why Everton were so concerned about us being let in.
3) The Houllier signings mentioned above were far from his only ones.
4) Of the 11 players you claim Liverpool signed in the summer transfer window (and I would love you to tell me them all!!) how many were bought for the first team and if they weren't, how are you able to judge them? Are you a regular at the Youth games at Melwood or the Reserves at Warrington?
5) IN ISTANBULLLLLLLLLLL WE WON IT 5 TIMES (3 more than your lot)
6) Your point about United spending money on one big signing per window is just wrong. What about this summer? The Shite bought Anderson (around £17million), Nani (around £12million), Hargreaves (£18million) and you made a laon deal worth an estimated £25million for Tevez. I'm no maths experts but that amounts to almost £40 million without the Tevez deal.
7) Your dig at Anfield being dirty is just childish in the extreme - have you even been there, or to any game in England for that matter?
I appreciate you want to express an opinion, but if you are going to set yourself up for criticism it might be better to have a rather more structured, fact-based argument.
Anyway, all the best, "Walk on with hope (of better articles) in your heart"
8 months ago
Sheikh, I'm afraid to say that just because others haven't picked up on your factual errors, doensn't mean they haven't been made.
A few points:
1) In what way was the 2001 treble bizarre?
2) Liverpool finished 5th the season we won the Champions League, not the one after. That was the reason we qualified for the Champions League the next season and why Everton were so concerned about us being let in.
3) The Houllier signings mentioned above were far from his only ones.
4) Of the 11 players you claim Liverpool signed in the summer transfer window (and I would love you to tell me them all!!) how many were bought for the first team and if they weren't, how are you able to judge them? Are you a regular at the Youth games at Melwood or the Reserves at Warrington?
5) IN ISTANBULLLLLLLLLLL WE WON IT 5 TIMES (3 more than your lot)
6) Your point about United spending money on one big signing per window is just wrong. What about this summer? The Shite bought Anderson (around £17million), Nani (around £12million), Hargreaves (£18million) and you made a laon deal worth an estimated £25million for Tevez. I'm no maths experts but that amounts to almost £40 million without the Tevez deal.
7) Your dig at Anfield being dirty is just childish in the extreme - have you even been there, or to any game in England for that matter?
I appreciate you want to express an opinion, but if you are going to set yourself up for criticism it might be better to have a rather more structured, fact-based argument.
Anyway, all the best, "Walk on with hope (of better articles) in your heart"
8 months ago
Sheikh, I'm afraid to say that just because others haven't picked up on your factual errors, doensn't mean they haven't been made.
A few points:
1) In what way was the 2001 treble bizarre?
2) Liverpool finished 5th the season we won the Champions League, not the one after. That was the reason we qualified for the Champions League the next season and why Everton were so concerned about us being let in.
3) The Houllier signings mentioned above were far from his only ones.
4) Of the 11 players you claim Liverpool signed in the summer transfer window (and I would love you to tell me them all!!) how many were bought for the first team and if they weren't, how are you able to judge them? Are you a regular at the Youth games at Melwood or the Reserves at Warrington?
5) IN ISTANBULLLLLLLLLLL WE WON IT 5 TIMES (3 more than your lot)
6) Your point about United spending money on one big signing per window is just wrong. What about this summer? The Shite bought Anderson (around £17million), Nani (around £12million), Hargreaves (£18million) and you made a laon deal worth an estimated £25million for Tevez. I'm no maths experts but that amounts to almost £40 million without the Tevez deal.
7) Your dig at Anfield being dirty is just childish in the extreme - have you even been there, or to any game in England for that matter?
I appreciate you want to express an opinion, but if you are going to set yourself up for criticism it might be better to have a rather more structured, fact-based argument.
Anyway, all the best, "Walk on with hope (of better articles) in your heart"
6 months ago
look ronaldo is good bu im only 14 and im gonna be beta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
an rafa is simpily jus a brillant manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 months ago
Well, stuff a sock in your mouth, Liverpool is just flying now.
5 months ago
Well, stuff a sock in your mouth, Liverpool is just flying now.
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