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The Lion, when portrayed on a flag or coat of arms, traditionally symbolizes bravery, valor, strength, and royalty. It is regarded as the king of beasts. Body roughly vertical, forepaws raised to strike (or to display the claws to best advantage)...

Andrei Arlovski: It's Time To Slay the Lion

by Stoker Mac (Senior Writer)

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October 10, 2008


The Lion, when portrayed on a flag or coat of arms, traditionally symbolizes bravery, valor, strength, and royalty. It is regarded as the king of beasts. Body roughly vertical, forepaws raised to strike (or to display the claws to best advantage).

The position of the hind legs varies according to local custom. The lion may stand on both hind legs, braced wide apart, or on only one, with the other also raised to strike.

The American Pit-bull or American Staffshire Terrior has its own (bad-ass reputation) for being a dog that will not give up in a fight, and has been known to attack bears in England during the 18th century.

Originally, these dogs were bred to keep the bull in line when it was being brought in from the fields for castration. The dogs would protect the owner from getting gored by the bull.

They accomplished this by biting the bull on the nose and hanging on, despite sometimes being injured by the bull...Thus they were given the name Bull Terriors or Bulldogs.

When MMA fighter Andrei Arlovski first entered the UFC, he was somewhat thrown to the lions. In only his second fight in the UFC, he faced, and lost to, Ricco Rodriguez and next, heavyweight contender Pedro Rizzo. Despite those early defeats, wins over Ian Freeman and Vladamir Matyushenko propelled Arlovski back into the UFC elite.

With somewhat ease, Arlovski went ahead and put a six-fight win streak together. Frank Mir, who was heavyweight champion of the UFC at this time, had unfortunately got involved in a motorcycle accident and was stripped of his title.

An interim title was put together and such, as most things in life. When one door closes, another one opens. Andrei Arlovski fought for the interim title against Tim Sylvia. Andrei won the title by submission after applying a vicious ankle lock that made "Big Tim" tap out.

By Andrei's own admission, after winning the title he partied non-stop, and didn't train properly for the second and third meetings with Sylvia. Arlovski lost both fights and sunk deeper in the rankings.

Andrei has started to look like the old "pitbull" we used to know and has once again put together a winning streak. Arlovski has been training with legendary boxing trainer Freddie Roach. Roach has trained many boxing champions, such as Mike Tyson and Manny Pacquiao.

Most recently, it was announced that Arlovski would be participating in the newly rescheduled "Affliction" pay-per-view event in co-promotion with well-known Boxing promoters GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS on Jan. 24, 2009 .

Arlovski will be fighting former "Pride FC" champion and current WAMMA heavyweight champion, Fedor Emelianenko, for the WAMMA heavyweight belt.

Yes...Fedor is the lion that came from Pride as most Lions do. Only, in my respectful opinion, I truly believe that this Lion is the runt of the litter.

Very much overrated and over-hyped (came close to losing a decision against Mirko Cro cop) and has only fought a low level of competition from his own organization, Fedor has been selective in his choices of fighters (gatekeepers, middleweights, many unknown Japanese fighters etc...).

So now the lion has entered on some new territory; this territory is being guarded by a ferocious, fighting pitbull. Usually a dog is no match for a cat. Only, in this case, I'm hoping the pitbull locks on with his powerful submissions and slays the lion dead!!

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WHO WINS

  • ARLOVSKI

    33.3%

  • FEDOR

    66.7%
  • Total votes: 42
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  1. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    * Man, I see in Fight Club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see it squandered. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables – slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war's a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.(from the movie fight club)

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  2. Travis Fellows 9 months ago

    I agree with most of this, very nice article Stroker

    however Fedor doesn't fight gatekeepers, unknown japanese fighters and middleweights

    Matt Lindland was well over 205 mark when they met, if anything Lindland should be given credit for taking that fight

    Fedor has fought so 205er's people who are faster then the traditional heavyweight, however those men didn't cut weight for the fight, they weighed in the 220+ range

    him fighting unknown Japanese fighters comes from the New Years eve fight put on every year in Japan, they feed him freakshow, 7 foot 300 pound monsters in an attempt to see if any of them can do something to him

    in fact most fighters are afraid to fight him
    notice Couture resigned with the UFC after spending some time with him, Josh Barnett ducked a Fedor fight saying he is supposed to be fighting AA next on his contract not Fedor, but AA had no problem stepping up to the firing line to give his two cents in

    i honestly think if he can come in as the old pitbull the one who we saw get in the ring at UFC 51 then Fedor is in trouble
    hell if he walks in and starts like he did at the first Affliction event high kicks, knees, uppercuts, hooks, he put on a clinic of stand up fighting and it showed well

    time will tell how he well he will do against Fedor but im rooting for him, tho i think he will get beaten sadly, i think however he will come closest outa anyone in a long time to beating him

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  3. Joseph Lupoli 9 months ago

    I have to say, Fedor owned Cro Cop throughout most of their fight. Cro Cop did land a good number of strikes during the stand-up game, and Fedor's face started looking nasty midway through the second round, but Fedor cuts easily anyway. It appeared to me that Fedor's stand-up striking was at least equil to Cro Cop's. On the ground, all Cro Cop could do was lay and pray in order to avoid serious ground-and-pound or being submitted. Basically, Fedor threw Cro cop around the ring like a rag-doll. However, Cro-Cop was never close to being out of the fight.

    I'll watch that fight again tonight just in case you're right when you say Fedor almost lost the decision, and I'm wrong. (It's been known to happen).

    Fedor VS. Arlovski? A very intriguing match-up indeed. Fedor hasn't fought enough in the octagon,(Tim Sylvia saw to that) so there's a big question as to whether or not he'll adapt to a cage and all that extra space; whether or not he can remain as effective in the U.S. as he was in Pride FC, especially given the restrictive rules of American MMA. Plus, we never know which Arlovski is going to enter the ring. And assuming Arlovski brings his "A" game, I have to Figure that Fedor should stop him midway through the fight. Anything lower than a top-notch Arlovski spells doom for him early.

    Joseph Lupoli

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  4. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    first round ..all crocop ..south paw stance..driving home straight lefts ..had Fedora on wobbly legs..CROCOP GOES FOR A HIGH KICK MISSES AND FALLS../Andrei can do that good and even better..dont you think?

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  5. Joseph Lupoli 9 months ago

    Stoker, I'll let you know after I watch The Fedor/Cro Cop fight again. And I'll be sure to look for Cro Cop's first round shut-out and Fedor's wobbly legs. I must have missed that the first four times I watched the fight. (And that's really possible). It's a good thing I have all the Pride FC's and UFC DVD's to fall back on.

    And Arlovski? Could he have done just as well or better than Cro Cop against Fedor on that day? Frankly, no. I just don't see it. On the other hand, if Fedor fought Arlovski today? Then definitely yes.

    Thanks again for your viewpoint and for planting the seed in my little brain to watch that epic battle again tonight, Stoker.

    Joseph lupoli

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  6. Dorothy Willis 9 months ago

    As Joseph has said, I have been wrong before (and in my case I will add, many times), but I truly believe that Andrei who is one of my favorite fighters, will be lucky to get to the end of the first round.
    I hope we will still be buddies either way.

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  7. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    ALWAYS...

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  8. steve johnson 9 months ago

    Arlovski is great and I give him a shot but come on; Alrovski couldn't measure up to Tim Sylvia their last 2 fights and these last 2 victories over IFL stars don't really amount to much.

    Good luck AA!

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  9. James Welch 9 months ago

    I really, really like Arlovski. I believe he is one of the most talented fighters in the world. He is, next to Anderson Silva, the most graceful and fluid striker in the sport. I do believe he possesses the skillset to beat Fedor.

    Unfortunately I don't think he will. Andrei is a slow starter. Against Fedor that will get you beat. Fedor explodes on people.

    Andrei is fast, but Fedor is faster. Andrei also gets frustrated easily if a fight is not going his way.

    Against the greatest strategist in MMA (sorry Randy) that is a fatal flaw.

    My heart says Andrei.

    My head says Fedor.

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  10. Anthony Pole 9 months ago

    Stoker wrote a similar article about Tim Sylvia's chances :)

    He praised Tim and bashed Fedor, he said Tim can "do it" and is "up for the challenge"...
    But as soon as Tim lost (badly) Stoker changed his tune and began saying that Tim is no good...

    Stoker, I will go ahead and predict now that after Arlovski gets armbarred in the 1st round (unless Fedor decides to carry him out of respect, like he did with Coleman (2), you will turn on Andrei. You will begin posting that Andrei is not good, and that Barnett would easily beat Fedor.

    Then after Barnett grows balls and fights (loses to) Fedor, you will turn on him and write: "Barnett sucks! A win over him is not impressive, Mir would beat Fedor" etc. It'll never end :)

    You're a hater.

    peace,

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  11. Anthony Pole 9 months ago

    I just read your article LOL

    Give me a minute to laugh, hold on!

    ok, I'm back :) Did you write "Arlovski's powerful submissions"??? WHAT SUBMISSIONS??????

    And what are the FACTUAL basis for your claim that Fedor selects his opponents? Proof please. Proof or STFU, that's how life works. No proof = you're full of it. (I could tell you exactly what I mean when I write "it", but that would offend Dorothy :)

    cheers hater,

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  12. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    Fedor will never get real opponents where he's at. Thats why he chose to be with that organization while in the UFC he would constantly be challenge by the elite. He's just going to coast over moderately challenging fighters. Sad that he will never fight the best

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  13. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    Fedor and his camp are not interested in facing the best for the best money and it should be very clear for anyone with half a brain. . So not only will they be subpar and someone he can easily beat, but they will also show up out of shape. Fedor is a non entity until he faces a legitimate heavyweight such as , Arlovski, Werdum, Couture

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      you're an idiot. there is no other way of putting it. Sorry man. I tried to be nice, I was wondering what to type, but there is nothing else polite or nice left to type that hasn't been typed yet, this is the nicest most polite thing that comes to mind at this point: You're an idiot.

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  14. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    Anthony you ( STFU) ARLOVSKI HAS ANKLE LOCK SUBMISSIONS (TIM SYLVIA)...and he choked out opponants and armbared opponants.MICHAEL TEILROY@ AARON BRINK.)He also took a silver medal at the Sambo World Cup and another silver medal at the World Sambo Championship.Arlovski returned in 2000 to M-1 Global at the European Championships, taking the heavyweight crown with a submission victoryArlovski currently lives and trains in Chicago, Illinois. His boxing coach is Freddie Roach, and he trains in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with Dino Costeas at POW Martial Arts. He also has been training with UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture.

    Arlovski began taking a greater interest in other martial arts, studying kickboxing and developing his striking skills to complement his Sambo-based grappling abilities. * UFC Undisputed Heavyweight Champion [7]
    * UFC Interim Heavyweight Champion
    * M-1 MFC-European Heavyweight Champion [7]
    UFC Undisputed Heavyweight CHAMPION

    Sambo championships
    * Master of Sport [7]
    * International Master of Sport [7]
    * European Youth Sambo Champion [7]
    * Silver medalist at the Sambo World Cup [7]
    * Silver medalist at the World Sambo Championship [7]

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Arlovski has submissions good enough for Fedor because Arlovski subbed 2 cans????

      Arlovski won 2nd place at Junior Sport Sambo Championship???

      jesus....

      You're either a troll, or you need professional help.

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  15. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    FEDOR..IS ONLY POSSIBLY #5 IN THE TOP FIVE..The top five comment makes a little bit of sense if you were to approach it from the standpoint of Fedor's current level of rustiness.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      rustiness? Fedor has recently fought higher ranked opponent, and is more active than Randy, Barnett, Nog or Werdum.

      Don't drink and post!

      Seriously, don't drink and post.

      I mean it. thanks :)

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  1. Danny Burnham 9 months ago

    I would LOVE to see Fedor fight Arlovski. At least then he will be fighting someone that an average MMA fan might have heard of. I would also love to see Fedor take a nap because I'm just tired of hearing about how great he is after he beats one cupcake after another. I don't care how good he is at SAMBO, the average fan doesn't know that sport even exists. He needs to prove himself against a CURRENT top fighter, and a fight with Arlovski would do that.

    Of course he'll probably beat Arlovski, then walk on water, then turn the water into wine, then feed 5,000 people with five loaves and two fish......

    P.S. Stop comparing people to CroCop. He sucks. That was proven when he got embarassed in the UFC.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Danny, who do you want him to fight? Barnett turned him down 5 times already (want a link?) Werdum did too. So did Randy (turned down 3 mil from Bodog and instead re-signed to face Tim for 10 times less money), Tim and Nog are taken care of, Andrei is next. Who else IS there???

      Are you aware of some new top fighters that we never heard of?

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    • Danny Burnham 9 months ago

      If he would come to the UFC he could fight any of those guys that he truely wanted. That would end all of this. Instead he lingers in those fly by night companies and fights tomato cans.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Danny,

      What makes you think he fights tomato cans? Let's compare top fighter's recent opponents:

      Barnett's recent opponent = unranked
      randy's recent opponent = unranked
      Nog's recent opponent = unranked
      Arlovski's recent opponent = unranked (or no. 10 if you go by Sherdog list)
      Werdum's recnet opponent = unranked
      Fedor's recent opponent = no. 4

      so...

      you were saying???

      And what makes you think he fights in "fly by night" companies??? He fought in the world's biggest MMA company (while he was there) for 4 years. Now he is signed to M1 Global, which does shows and TV in dozens of countries (UFC only does 2) and pays him 3 mil a fight (that would be 10 times more than Randy EVER got paid in UFC)

      :) facts hurt, don't they? Don't hold on so hard. he is #1, the best, don't fight it, accept it, and move on.

      cheers,

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    • Jeremy Botter 9 months ago

      I hope you don't think you can just throw out these "facts" about Fedor and get away with it, especially when some of them aren't true.

      It seems to me like you're saying that M1 is bigger than the UFC. Surely you don't actually believe that.

      Also, M1 Global doesn't pay Fedor 3 million per fight. He's had exactly one fight under this M1 Global contract structure, and it was for Affliction. Affliction paid him 2 million bucks, and they gave M1 Global 1 million for the rights to use Fedor, which M1 probably gave to Fedor since M1, well, M1 IS FEDOR and nothing else.

      Also, because of that giant payday the company had to give to Fedor, Affliction lost millions of dollars. They thought Fedor vs. Sylvia would generate a huge buyrate, and it didn't. It drew around 63,000 PPV buys, and that's official from the PPV inustry. If you add up Fedor's United States appearances that appeared on PPV, it wouldn't even total 100,000 buys, which is about 1/7th of what Couture drew for his fight against Tim Sylvia.

      Oh, and I love how you say Fedor made "ten times more" per fight than Couture has ever made for a fight in the UFC, as if that's some indication of how famous Fedor or how valuable he is to a company. For starters, that's complete BS, because for his match against Tim Sylvia, Randy Couture made 1.75 million dollars -- and this is fact, Zuffa released copies of his cashed checks during the dispute.

      I realize you love Fedor and you think he's the be-all, end-all of mixed martial arts. But implying that M1 Global is bigger than the UFC is laughable to start, and then saying Fedor makes ten times more than Couture makes in the UFC is even funnier when you take into account that the last show Fedor headlined for Affliction lost millions of dollars and was a giant financial failure that nearly killed the company and the last show Randy Couture headlined for the UFC had a profit of roughly 48 million bucks. But hey, at least Fedor got his 3 million bucks, right? That's all that counts.

      I'm NOT SAYING Randy Couture is a better fighter than Fedor so don't get all upset. :-)

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Jeremy,

      Couture got paid 300k to fight Tim (the rest of the ppv cut, bonuses etc is not what I was referring to, as fedor makes that as well)

      Fedor gets 1-3 mil depending on the fight (fact) What you see as the pay-out numbers don't include his real pay-check for reasons of taxation (obvious)

      cheers,

      (keep in mind, I was the one who broke the Tim-Fedor fight 3 weeks before it was announced. Go to Sherdog, search for Russian Informant on google. Kusokidiota = it's me. There is not 1 thing you can think of that I don't know about Russian MMA, M1 or Fedor. I know what I'm saying. I can tell you things like how fedor's last Judo match went, who he faced and what his opponent said after the fight. When it comes to these things, I don't speculate or read internet, I hear it from the camp itself)

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      p.s. Jeremy, Couture told you himself in his own press conference that he was offered 3 mil to fight Fedor in Bodog, but took 300k instead to re-sign with UFC and face Tim (10 times less money)

      It's is 100% fact that Couture was offered this money.

      Couture didn't have the balls, so fedor ended up fighting Lindland. After winning 2 fights randy got some confidence, until he saw fedor-Tim, and grappled with God in LA, next thing you know he is back in UFC thou he only had to wait a few more days to get out of it :)

      History shows that Randy takes fights he thinks he can win. Fedor fight is no longer one of those fights.

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    • Jeremy Botter 8 months ago

      Anthony, I never said Randy wanted to face Fedor! I KNOW he didn't want to face Fedor. We've already beat that point into the ground before, haven't we?

      I understand that you were the guy who broke the story about Fedor vs. Sylvia, because you point it out in nearly every argument we have. Congrats. I've broken many stories covering many different fighters over the years (including, most recently, the fact that Randy Couture was coming back to the UFC and would be signing to fight Brock Lesnar and also the news that Couture and Lesnar are both injured going into their fight), but you don't see me crowing about it every chance I get. If you're confident in your abilities and in your contacts, then you don't need to crow about it every chance you get. Just let your stories and your sources do the talking for you.

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    • Jeremy Botter 8 months ago

      Also, Randy didn't have to "wait a few more days" to get out of his UFC contract. He wasn't getting out. The summary judgment in Dallas was Couture's only real shot at getting out of his UFC contract, because without it, he had to go back to Las Vegas, a county that is very kind to Zuffa. Couture's contract with the UFC was iron-clad and he knew he wasn't getting out, which is why the negotiating began in earnest once the summary judgment in Dallas went against him.

      And there is no doubt in my mind that Randy is less interested in fighting Fedor than he was a year ago. I agree that seeing what Fedor did to Sylvia and then getting handled by him in the grappling match probably lessened his interest in the fight a great deal. It doesn't mean that *I* want to see the fight any less, even though I know what the end result would be.

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    • Danny Burnham 8 months ago

      Anthony and fellow Fedor-Kool-Aid drinkers,

      First stop twisting my words I never said he hasn't fought the best. I said he has not recently fought a top ranked fighter. That's a FACT. We're not talking about who Barnett has fought, or Couture, or Nog. We are talking about Fedor. Comparing his record against cupcakes to other peoples record against cupcakes doesn't make him any better.

      Another fact: Hong Man Choi had him mounted, and simply didn't know what to do once he got there. Sure Fedor pulled him down into the position, but that means Fedor gave up position and WOULD have lost had his opponent had a clue.

      M-1 isn't the biggest company in the sport. Pride WAS the biggest, but guess what, it no longer exists. What matters is what's going on in the sport RIGHT NOW. Liddell has called Fedor out. Randy has called him out. Even Brock Lesnar via Dana White's video blog has called him out. So don't give me that anyone any time any place crap. Until he beats someone that the average fan recognizes, the average fan will not see him as the best in the business.

      If he was as good as some people say, and indeed wants to prove it, he will come to the biggest company in the sport (UFC) and fight the best fighters. Until then, he can continue to hide behind SAMBO and feed his doubters.

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  2. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    THANK YOU DANNY ...I HOPE ANTHONY COMES BACK AROUND TO HEAR THAT...I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MY SELF...FEDOR HAS NEVER ONCE HAD A FIGHT IN THE BEST ORG IN THE WORLD,SO HOW COULD HE EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR BEST ALL TIME ANYTHING../THANKS STOKER

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    • Jeremy Botter 9 months ago

      Okay, this is pretty stupid. Fedor has never had a fight in the best organization in the world? Dude, he was IN the best organization in the world for a long, long time. The UFC couldn't hold a candle to PRIDE for the entire first half of this decade, and to think otherwise is ludicrous. PRIDE's heavyweight division was incredibly stacked, and Fedor dominated that division.

      Are you just trying to piss Anthony off? If so, that's fine. Just send me an email or something and let me know, because I'm starting to think you might actually believe the stuff you're typing.

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  3. Joseph Lupoli 9 months ago

    Okay Stoker, I did watch the Fedor/Cro Cop Fight again. What I didn't see was Cro Cop winning the first round. Neither did Bas and Maurilo. They both verbally agreed that Fedor won that round by a small margin. Of course, I'm taking into account that the ring announcers sit in one spot and they have to constantly look up and down from the ring to the small screen in front of them while doing play-by-play. It can't be easy.

    Also, I never did see Fedor on wobbly legs at any time during the fight. There was a moment when Fedor, who was back-peddling while trying to avoid a series of jabs, (they landed anyway) did slip briefly, but it was a small slip; nothing like spaghetti-legs caused by strikes. (And the announcers mentioned nothing about it). What Cro Cop did do was land a couple of vicious liver kicks that hurt me just to watch. Miraculously, Fedor didn't even wince while continuing his forward movement. Fedor also Blocked or ducked Most of Cro-Cops kicks. He also showed amazing counter-punching speed and accuracy when ever Cro Cop unloaded his hands.

    I was very impressed with Cro Cops game-plan, and by his tenacity and constant movement in the guard that prevented Fedor from even thinking about attempting a submission. Nevertheless, in a nutshell, Fedor moved forward and Cro Cop moved backward throughout most of the fight. Fedor out struck and out grappled Cro Cop.

    I'll tell you though, this is my favorite of all Cro Cop's fights. He came in at a solid 234 pounds instead of his usual 215. And He came to win, not just to fight. Cro cop forced Fedor to think much harder...and longer than he would have liked to. Basically, Fedor had to scrap tooth and nail to win that fight. It was a classic fight that brought out the best in both men. And if you look outside the box, Cro Cops reputation had to have been enhanced by that loss.

    Joseph Lupoli

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  4. Joseph Lupoli 9 months ago

    Okay Stoker, I did watch the Fedor/Cro Cop Fight again. What I didn't see was Cro Cop winning the first round. Neither did Bas and Maurilo. They both verbally agreed that Fedor won that round by a small margin. Of course, I'm taking into account that the ring announcers sit in one spot and they have to constantly look up and down from the ring to the small screen in front of them while doing play-by-play. It can't be easy.

    Also, I never did see Fedor on wobbly legs at any time during the fight. There was a moment when Fedor, who was back-peddling while trying to avoid a series of jabs, (they landed anyway) did slip briefly, but it was a small slip; nothing like spaghetti-legs caused by strikes. (And the announcers mentioned nothing about it). What Cro Cop did do was land a couple of vicious liver kicks that hurt me just to watch. Miraculously, Fedor didn't even wince while continuing his forward movement. Fedor also Blocked or ducked Most of Cro-Cops kicks. He also showed amazing counter-punching speed and accuracy when ever Cro Cop unloaded his hands.

    I was very impressed with Cro Cops game-plan, and by his tenacity and constant movement in the guard that prevented Fedor from even thinking about attempting a submission. Nevertheless, in a nutshell, Fedor moved forward and Cro Cop moved backward throughout most of the fight. Fedor out struck and out grappled Cro Cop.

    I'll tell you though, this is my favorite of all Cro Cop's fights. He came in at a solid 234 pounds instead of his usual 215. And He came to win, not just to fight. Cro cop forced Fedor to think much harder...and longer than he would have liked to. Basically, Fedor had to scrap tooth and nail to win that fight. It was a classic fight that brought out the best in both men. And if you look outside the box, Cro Cops reputation had to have been enhanced by that loss.

    Joseph Lupoli

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Joseph,

      Fedor didn't try a single sub because he had zero grip strength in his right hand, which was completely busted.

      Surgery prep began the next morning after the title fight (in Holland actually, only a few hours after the Japan fight)

      Crocop was able to stand with fedor, and take GnP well because Fedor was one handed. Cop and Bas before the fight were happy and ecstatic, talking about how Crocop is going to win this due to Fedor's busted hand (did you see the video? It's hilarious)

      cheers,

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  5. Joseph Lupoli 9 months ago

    I was aware of Emelianenko's injured hand prior to the fight. Very few fighters are fortunate enough go into a bout without some sort of injury. Often times one injured fighter is fighting another injured fighter. In the long-run it all equals out.

    Joseph Lupoli

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  6. Joe Ting Tok 9 months ago

    I am starting to think that this is a bash Fedor network. How can people be this dumb? It is amazing!!

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      The sad part Joe is that many of them don't know that they are stupid.

      They've been watching UFC since good ol Royce days, and think MMA is a team sport, meaning a USA promotion HAS to be the best because this is USA... They don't realize that fighters fight in ANY promotion where they get a better deal. There are NO Pride and NO UFC fighters, there are ONLY MMA fighters. The talk about Fedor not being good because he is not in UFC borders on cretinism to put it nicely.

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  7. Nick V 9 months ago

    The only thing I have to say is that the heavyweight division is overrated all together and much better more well rounded fighters are in the lower weight classes. I just don't believe in these heavies skills and it seems that Fedor is in a class of his own vs. a weak crop of heavies outside of him. That is why I will always put Anderson over Fedor as P4P best. The heavies are getting better and deeper but I have never been overwhelmingly impressed with any of them and that is greatly pointed towards the Sylvia and Cro Cops of the world. Also to Anthony who is ripping everyone it seems about Fedor's paycheck do you not think he would make more money by signing a fat check with the UFC and then making millions in endorsements and exposure that the UFC can bring him. I mean if you think about it your average fan doesn't even know what MMA is they think it is actually called UFC or Ultimate Fighting. UFC equals dollars and success especially if he runs through what you call a weak crop of heavy weights which will only be stronger with his arrival as the others will come after he leaves and Affliction falls. Just a thought but if Fedor weighed less, IN MY OPINION so don't go crazy, he couldn't hold GSP or Anderson's jock.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Nick,

      1- You mentioned that fedor can't hold GSP's jock pfp. But when asked who is the best pfp fighter in the world GSP said "Fedor" :) (Inside MMA just 2 weeks ago)

      2- You say Anderson would beat Fedor if Fedor was smaller, but did you realize that they are the same size?

      The difference is that one of them cuts lots of weight to beat up on smaller men in the sport's weakest division, where he is the biggest guy with the longest reach. Remember, Anderson is 6'2 (2 inches taller than fedor) and is normally 220+ and as heavy as 230 when he likes to work out and lift weights (he said this himself on radio sherdog, so don't argue) So actually you have admitted (without realizing it) that fedor is a better fighter than Anderson. You thought fedor would only win due to size, but that turned out to be an illusion.

      3- Fedor is a mega star in Russia, Japan and Korea. he doesn't need UFC to be successful, and UFC doesn't need him. Both are doing just fine without one another. Fedor has dinner with Putin in Kremlin for Christ sakes, he has recently been voted as Russia's best athlete ahead of major stars of soccer and Olympians. If you think fedor needs UFC or more money than you're not well informed.

      4- Heavyweights are just fine. Sure they are slower and gravity prevents them from doing the moves you see GSP or BJ do, but that is only due to physics. They train just as hard, and with the very same people smaller fighters train with.

      peace,

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    • Nick V 8 months ago

      Anthony,

      I do enjoy your feedback but knowing GSP's character I don't think when asked that question he would answer himself. Fedor makes perfect sense for his answer too seeing as Anderson is closer to his weight class and they may have a possible fight in the future.

      Also I do realize Anderson or almost any 185 could naturally fight at heavyweight but that doesn't mean that it is their best fighting weight. People cut for a reason. If you feel more effective at a certain weight then that is what you cut to. That is also part of my reasoning as to why Fedor is so effective because I don't believe he is a true heavy rather than a fighter that knows he doesn't have to cut weight so he doesn't. I would still love to see Anderson and Fedor face off.

      I have also said on this site before that I would like to see Fedor fight some 205's that may be as athletic as him and may give him some problems although most 205's don't seem as well rounded as Fedor anyway. AA will probably be the most athletic fighter he has fought and as much as I love AA I don't think he has what it takes either.

      About the UFC I am not saying either of them need one another, but to fight in the number one organization would solidify critics and I believe he could make even more money with them. And having the number one heavy in the UFC would be great to see because the fights would be more frequent for him and the competition would probably get stiffer as he would bring the tough heavies with him as I said.

      Overall Anthony, you can continue your tirades about Fedor because just as GSP, BJ Penn, and Anderson don't have anyone to challenge them in their divisions neither does Fedor. I still think the most talented fighters and most exciting are at lower weights and this isn't a sport like boxing that needs heavys to thrive.

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  8. tobias green 9 months ago

    Stoker, I see your game plan to be provocative with your writing. It definitely works in the short term. But you lose a little bit of credibility with each article. So in the end it wont work. But good luck anyway.

    Anthony, your level of Fedor nuthuggery is admirable.

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  9. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    ANTHONY...yes my game plan does work...I'm a columnist after only 32 articles ..most,who are better writers than me are still members or scribes or analysts ...JOE i respect you but you and anthony are looking through rose colored glasses..I can give you the minute and the second that fedors legs wobbled and crocop went in to finish him ..it was( NEAR THE END OF) the fIrst round..crocop was picking fedora apart the whole first round ..had him bloodied up from hitting him with straight right hands from a south paw stance...my boxing background tells me that if fedor chases arlovski around the ring and constantly reaches in ..the way he did against crocop he will be knocked up...TRY goggling FREDDIE ROACH..he is one of the most respected and elite boxing trainers in the world today.HE WILL HAVE A SOLID GAME PLAN FOR ARLOVSKI...AND SOME OF IT WILL COME FROM WATCHING THIS TAPE(CRO COP/FEDOR) OVER AND OVER ...FEDOR LOOKED BAD ..SLOPPY IN FACT ....THROWING , MISSING ..OPEN FOR COUNTERS ..IM SURPRISED THAT CROCOP DIDN'T KNOCK HIS ASS OUT ...HE HAD HIM HURT IN ROUND ONE ..WENT IN FOR THE KILL AND THREW A HIGH LEG KICK THAT MISSED CROCOP FALLS AND FEDOR JUMPS ON TOP..AND FEDOR IS BLEEDING ALL OVER CROCOPS RIGHT SHOULDER AND THE ROUND ENDS./THANKS STOKER

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      stoker,

      Bleeding doesn't determine the winner.

      "Almost" getting something done in a fight doesn't determine the winner.

      It's funny how you say "leg kick that missed" You make it sound like it was an accident, guess what idiot? CROCOP MISSED THE KICK, the kick didn't miss by itself. fedor was the better man and he won.

      You have not (and will not) address the fact that Fedor did all this with one hand.

      Freddie Roach doesn't do Arlovski's game-planning you moron! Do you know anything about Andrei's team? Tell me the name of the Russian guy who spoke to Aleks in the locker room after Rothwell fight...

      (you don't know, do you?)

      Do you know what Arlovski said in his latest interview? "Fedor is OBVIOUSLY the best fighter in the world."

      :) don't cry stoker.

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    • Stoker Mac 9 months ago

      ** knocked out not up....and straight left hands from the southpaw stance..sorry for typos../stoker

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  10. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    TOBIAS,YEAH..IM NOT CREDIBLE...CREDIBILITY IS NOT WHAT I AIM FOR ..ITS CONTRVERSY...ALTHOUGH I DISAGREE ..WITH YOU ..IF PRIDE WAS SO DAMN GREAT WHERE ARE THEY NOW??....AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT FEDORS RECORD AND SEE WHO HE HAS FOUGHT(OLD HAS BEENS -WILL BES-AND NEVER WAS) THROW IN A FEW STIFF S ON NEW YEARS EVEAND THERE YOU HAVE FEDORS RECORD......HIS CONTRACT NOW STATES HE CAN FIGHT IN ANY ORG,.SO WHY IS HE AVOIDING UFC LIKE THE PLAGUE.he is allowed to fight in the ufc..but he is afraid of Randy..KEEP ON DUCKING MR FEDORA!!

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      According to Dana White it is him (UFC) that turned down Fedor for the 1-fight deal VS Randy (in UFC under UFC rules in a UFC octagon)

      :) don't cry bro. Dana knows Randy will tap to an armbar in 2 minutes like his buddy Lindland did, and Fedor will leave. Dana wouldn't allow that.

      Dana said this himself about refusing the fight, so don't cry man :)

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  11. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    I LOVE ANTHONY ..HE KEEPS ME IN THE NUMBER #1 SPOT IN THE FIGHTING CATEGORY..AND NUMBER# 6 IN ALL ROUND COMBAT SPORTS.THANKS TO ALL ENVOLVED IN THIS HEATED DEBATE...IM NOT CREDIBLE AND IM AN IDIOT AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU MAY WANT TO CALL ME ...BUT THE FACT IS i WRITE EM...AND YOU KEEP READIN THEM!!..TOUCHE'...stoker dafire

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      stoker,

      You say people keep reading you...

      But if you combine ALL your "articles" you have less reads than my 1 :)

      Quality over quantity.

      And take my word for it, you're NOT a writer. You're an internet troll, fighter-basher punk amateur boxer who got hit in the head too many times. You know nothing about MMA or even boxing! (Remember you wrote Lenox was born in Canada? Did you even bother to know the subject that you write on???????????????????????

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  12. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    ANTHONY SAYS "COMBINE ALL YOUR ARTICLES AND YOU HAVE LESS READS THAN MY THREE,,,WELL THAT STAEMENT MAKES YOU A VER CREDIBLE GUY...BBBHAHAHA...HERE ARE MY NUMBERS..stoker dafire

    Columnist
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    * 45 articles written
    * 323 comments posted
    * 5 Pick of the Day votes received
    * 533 comments received
    * 28 fans
    * 22,531 article reads

    CAN YOU EVEN COME CLOSE TO THAT ANTHONY WITH YOUR THREE FEDOR ARTICLES...HAHAH

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      stoker,

      I wrote 2 articles. 1 of them has 6'000 reads here and over a million world-wide :)

      1'000'000 > 20'000

      ok?

      Go see for yourself, my "myths" has dozens of google pages devoted to it, with some sherdog threads running 40 pages long and 20'000+ reads in each thread.

      :)

      owned.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      In fact, "myths" made front page of M1 website, that would be another few hundred thousand reads.

      don't cry.

      Quality over quantity.

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    • Emperor 9 months ago

      Hey stoker, the only reason people read your articles is because of the insanity in it, don't feel flattered by it because I can bet most of us are laughing at you. I want your ass on this site Jan. 25 after the lion slays the pitbull!!

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  13. Emperor 9 months ago

    Came close to losing a decision to cro cop? You must be on drugs coz Fedor whooped that boy good, and with one hand! (The other hand was useless, which is why Fedor could not submit Crocop!)

    Man, Fedor will destroy Andrei in a single round (although I'm a big fan of Arllovski he stands little chance).

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  14. Richard Price 8 months ago

    You know what Stoker? I like you. There is a kind of heroism in you that you rarely encounter these days. You have a job and you stick to it no matter what. I think if Fedor was fighting Kimbo you'd be the guy who would find the scenario that ends up with Kimbo missing that the rest of us hadn't seen. That takes both balls and talent. You just see things in a different light.

    Stoker sir, you are a true original.

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  15. craig craiggins 8 months ago

    Yeah this guy is trolling for views and replies (which I am now adding to) with controversy. It always works and he is using it effectively.

    Do you people honestly believe him when he says Fedor is a "non entity"? His list of 3 legitimate heavyweights (anyone else is illigitimate apparently?) is Randy, Werdum, and AA .... seriously? Im actually surprised he didnt include Mir and Lesnar.

    After Fedor removes Arlovski's arms, it will be hard to say any of the rest even have a punchers chance. But Stoker will be back in 2009 telling us how Arlovski and Sylvia are just UFC has beens and that Fedor is a non entity until he faces Lesnar or Couture (who will continue dodging Fedor if by some miracle manages to defend his title from Brock and Nog)

    Even if you never saw a Fedor fight in your life, you can't look at his record and say he isnt impressive.

    I would love to hear the argument about why Stoker thinks Fedor is only "possibly" in the top 5. I know it was just made to fuel the fire, but hey its fun. :) He will eventually lose, but until then, only Dana White in his delusional state, believes Fedor isn't the best there is.

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  1. logical thinker 8 months ago

    "Fedor will never get real opponents where he's at." You should know better than to finish a sentence with a preposition...but then you do think Arlovski is a good fighter....something I am not even willing to give him leaving Fedor out of the equation. Fedor has no equal and his closest runner up as the best in the world (Minatauro) lost both matches as plain as day...oh yeah and I think he is in the UFC. You probably were impressed by Kimbo before he fought the other night huh? Well we knew all along that he sucked and guys like you should have dislodged his ding dong from your throat long ago.

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  2. cotter cotter 8 months ago

    Simple as this guys: The Last Emperor is going to command the pit-bull as he wishes. If he says sit he will sit; if he says roll over he will roll over; and when he says lay he will lay. It just all depends on whether or not Fedor feels like throwing him a treat and lets him past the first round...

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  3. Stoker Mac 8 months ago

    *TYPOS/BLOOD SPORT/FEDOR NOT CROCOP.....PROOF READING WORKS IF ITS USED BEFORE PUBLISHING..

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  4. Emperor 8 months ago

    Anthony, why do you even reply? I bet you stoker is that little kid around the block that throws stones at you from behind a wall and runs for his life before the stone hits the ground. There's no point arguing with kids. If Lesnar were to fight Fedor he'd have an article how he'd kill Fedor (even though most of us with slightest MMA knowledge know it would be a mismatch). He loves the attention

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  5. Christian Oliver 8 months ago

    Ok. Enough.

    Anthony, you are pissing way more people than you think off. I joined Bleacher to get away from people like you, specifically people like you. You are insulting and rude and a fine one to talk about fighter bashing - you bash everyone that is not Fedor. EVERY article I read is you going on about him, fine, thats your opinion, other people are allowed to have thiers - don't bash them for it.

    So for christ sake do us all a favor and shut the hell up.

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    • Anthony Pole 8 months ago

      Christian,

      Please present proof (link, quotes etc) of where and how I have bashed fighters.

      For example:
      stoker, 2 posts above yours, calls Fedor a "bum from Russia"

      This is racist!

      stoker is the one you need to respond to.

      thanks,

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  6. Christian Oliver 8 months ago

    Look, Anthony - I am not about to trawl through all the Bleacher articles I have read where you slate anyone that isn't Fedor, or rather thier chances against the man. You just don't seem to think that anyone has any skill other than the Russian and its starting to wear very thin. I am sure you are a wicked guy and I don't want to get in a slanging match - all of your coments are usually backed up with 'fact' or whatever, but dude, change the f'ing tune. Nobody is unbeatable, no-body. Period. Everyone has as good a chance against the next man - including Fedor. Please stop dismissing this fact when it comes to him, and please stop slating other peoples opionions just because you think yours is more informed or more right.

    Stoker is just as responsible for dragging this boring a$$ conversation in to the depths of *yawn* with peronal insults and childish back and forth arguments. Please stop insulting each other, OR anyone else whos opinion you don't agree with, please stop bashing fighters (Stoker I am looking at you) and PLEASE change the tune, I wanna dance to something different :)

    Don't worry, I am new, and not as informed, but one day I hope to write an article, and then you can slate me as much as you want, K?

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    • Anthony Pole 8 months ago

      Chris,

      I have never claimed Fedor to be unbeatable, I also like several other fighters, possibly more than him (Machida, Frank Shamrock, BJ Penn)

      I do believe that Fedor is at this point in a class by himself, of course he can lose, and most likely will, everyone does, but he is a massive HUGE favorite in ANY fight at this time.

      I would NEVER insult anyone, I do believe in 2 eyes for a eye thou :) If someone is a racist moron like stoker, I WILL bash him, and nothing nor anyone can stop me. Racism will not be tolerated.

      peace,

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  7. Christian Oliver 8 months ago

    Ok, I conceed on the Racism dude. But you just add fule to the fire by carrying it on, do you know what I mean?

    Anyway, enough of this - I look forward to arguing with you again in the future :)

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    • Anthony Pole 8 months ago

      Chris,

      You're right. I agree. I'm just amazed that racism and fighter-bashing is tolerated here (or anywhere else)

      I mean, in all seriousness, as soon as someone posts "Russian bum" or something similar about ANYONE, that poster should be banned without any warning, and actually sued too :) People who post such things should be made to pay the price quickly, they are a disgrace to human race, a pathetic accident that should be erased.

      I actually don't even like Russia, I'm an American citizen, worked and lived in Russia and didn't like it, so no bias here. I really wish stoker would consider the basic laws of human decency when posting his pathetic verbal vomit. I don't see anyone calling him a stupid typical Canadian bum who can't fight and sucks.

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  8. Stoker Mac 8 months ago

    yeah..hahah..me and ants we go through the little boy that throws stones routine alot...I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT HE SEES...i see fedor as a clumsy guy over weight and unorthodox ...spending all his money early inmost of his fights..A fighter like Anderson or machida would have lots of fun letting him chase them around till he wore him self out and then fedora would be knocked out like a side of beef..cheers /stoker

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    • Anthony Pole 8 months ago

      Actually Fedor already faced the world's best counter strikers, the world's most decorated strikers and grapplers vastly superior to Anderson or Machida.

      Machida has not faced anyone in top 5 in his weight class yet, so let's wait before we praise him, ok?

      Anderson already lost 4 times (to 4 cans) And didn't avenge those losses, so let's not get too dilusional.

      (Why do you sign your name after your posts? We can see your name! It says stoker on top, and even has your ugly picture next to it! lol)

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  9. Anthony Pole 8 months ago

    "delusional" not "dilusional" sorry.

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  10. Anthony Pole 8 months ago

    stoker,

    3 questions for you:

    1- You bash Pride and every non-UFC fighter, but why don't you bash Anderson and Machida??? Most of their fights were not in UFC. they both fought in Japan more, as well as in Brazil, and in fact Anderson has lost 4 times outside UFC.

    2- Were you one of the people who agreed with Chris Leben that Anderson is just another over-rated can from Japan and needs to go back there where the competition is easier?

    3- Did you change your mind and jump wagons after Anderson destroyed a UFC rising star Leben in a devastating fashion? At what point did you start calling Anderson a UFC fighter? AFTER he beat Leben? lol

    thanks in advance,

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  11. Stoker Mac 8 months ago

    yeah..something like that now move along little boy and go annoy someone else...hahahah

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  12. Carlos Pena 8 months ago

    Stoker, your article was nice and well written. I like AA very much and don't have much a problem if AA defeats Fedor, both are tremendous fighters. The only problem is your critique to Fedor. That guy is the best heavyweight now and has been since he defeated Nogueira several years ago. You should be more respectful to fighters.

    Fedor is the best in my opinion because he has defeated:
    Nogueira(2) best before Fedor appearance, has defeated a who-is-who list too long to type
    Crocop, the croatian sensation, defeated Barnett several times
    Tim Sylvia, former UFC champion, defeated AA twice
    Mark Coleman(2), UFC legend
    Kevin Randleman, knocked out CroCop
    Mark Hunt, defeated CroCop, Wanderlei Silva
    ... and still undefeated

    Also I recommend to read this page http://www.graciemag.com/?c=147&a=3190, Minotauro Nogueira and Pedro Rizzo talk about Fedor, very insightful.

    Other great HWs are Nogueira, Couture, Arlovski, Barnett, none of them have this kind of resume, and I like them all.

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