Carson Palmer: How His Trade Demand Affects Vince Young, Donovan McNabb

Brian DiTullioSenior Writer IJanuary 23, 2011

Carson Palmer: How His Trade Demand Affects Vince Young, Donovan McNabb

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    CINCINNATI, OH - DECEMBER 19:  Quarterback Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals calls a play at the line of scrimage while playing the Cleveland Browns at Paul Brown Stadium on December 19, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio.  (Photo by Matthew Stockman/Getty
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    Carson Palmer has demanded a trade from the Cincinnati Bengals, according to a report from ESPN.

    This kind of demand will send shockwaves throughout the league, especially in a year where the first-round quarterback depth all of a sudden looks thin and there a lot of teams with needs.

    To add to the drama, Palmer isn't the only starting quarterback on the trade market, and this could affect overall value of starting quarterbacks looking for new teams.

    This complex situation just got even more complex, so let's look at this situation and how it affects the NFL step by step.

The Collective Bargaining Agreement

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    NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 30:  (R) Commissioner of hte NFL Roger Goodell speaks during the 2010 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year Celebration  at IAC Building on November 30, 2010 in New York City.  (Photo by Jemal Countess/Getty Images)
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    The NFL's collective bargaining agreement expires March 3. There can be no trades among any teams involving players until a new CBA is signed.

    For this piece, we will assume a new contract and go from there because at some point, that is going to happen.

The Quarterback Market

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    PHILADELPHIA - DECEMBER 26: A man cleans the sidewalk in front of Geno's Steaks during a blizzard on December 26, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. (Photo by Drew Hallowell/Getty Images)
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    There's a lot of meat in this market this year, so expect the value of every quarterback on the market to be adjusted accordingly.

    When a starting quarterback hits the market for a trade, their value usually is through the roof because it's highly unusual for there to be more than one on the market in any given year.

    But now you have competition. Besides Palmer, there is Donovan McNabb and Vince Young for sure. You also possibly have Kevin Kolb and Matt Flynn to think about.

    Matt Flynn?

    Yes. Flynn's contract with the Green Bay Packers is up after the 2011 season. Flynn made himself a tradable commodity in his one start. While he won't command the kind of price the other quarterbacks will, he now is a factor in the equation. There's no way he stays in Green Bay as a backup after 2011 if he can get paid better to be in the mix as a starter somewhere else.

Teams With Needs

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    NEW YORK - JUNE 20: U.S. National Wrestling Team member Brad Vering (C) and freestyle coach Lee Kemp (R) talk to a trader on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange June 20, 2008 in New York City. (Photo by Jonathan Fickies/Getty Images)
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    Let's go down to the trading floor and see who is looking for quarterbacks, including teams with quarterbacks demanding trades.

    1. Washington Redskins

    2. Minnesota Vikings

    3. San Francisco 49ers

    4. Tennessee Titans

    5. Miami Dolphiins

    5. Cincinnati Bengals

    6. Arizona Cardinals

    7. Carolina Panthers

    8. Denver Broncos (Maybe)

Denver Broncos

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    DENVER, CO - JANUARY 2:  Quarterback Tim Tebow #15 of the Denver Broncos drops back to pass as running back Lance Ball #35 looks to make a block against the San Diego Chargers at INVESCO Field at Mile High on January 2, 2011 in Denver, Colorado. (Photo by
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    The Broncos have Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton. No one knows who the Broncos are going to go with next year, or if they're going to trade any of the quarterbacks on the roster.

    For the moment, no one knows what the Broncos will do, and with Palmer now on the market, this drops the value of Orton and Tebow considerably. Look for the Broncos to hold onto both quarterbacks this season unless someone makes them an offer they can't refuse.

Kevin Kolb

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    PHILADELPHIA, PA - JANUARY 02:  Kevin Kolb #4 of the Philadelphia Eagles looks on against the Dallas Cowboys on January 2, 2011 at Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)
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    The Eagles have been letting everyone know in the only ways they can that Kevin Kolb probably isn't going anywhere.

    With the kind of offense they're running, and how hard Michael Vick plays, the Eagles front office knows they need to great quarterbacks to get through a season.

    Kolb's price probably is going to be two first-round picks, which now is not going to happen, so Kolb probably is stuck in Philadelphia for at least one more year.

Vince Young

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    NASHVILLE, TN - NOVEMBER 21:  Quarterback Vince Young #10 of the Tennessee Titans scrambles away from H.B. Blades #54 of the Washington Redskins at LP Field on November 21, 2010 in Nashville, Tennessee. The Redskins won 19-16 in overtime.  (Photo by Grant
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    Vince Young has worn his welcome out with the Titans. He probably still can have pretty good trade value as the perception is he just needs a change of scenery.

    However, any team that doesn't do their homework will fail to realize Young is a headcase, and that if Young has a bad stretch of games, he needs to be coddled or he falls apart.

    Just ask Jeff Fisher.

    With Palmer on the market, this gives teams looking to do a trade another option.

Donovan McNabb

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    ARLINGTON, TX - DECEMBER 19:  Quarterback Donovan McNabb #5  of the Washington Redskins on the sidelines against play against the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium on December 19, 2010 in Arlington, Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)
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    Donovan McNabb has had a rough year. First he was traded to the Redskins, then he was benched, and now he's going to be looking for a new home.

    McNabb's trade value is tricky because he's not injured, his performance in Washington, while questionable, is just as much the coaching staff's fault as it was McNabb's.

    McNabb's value has to go down, though, because of his age. No matter what, the rest of the quarterbacks on the trade market are younger.

Carson Palmer

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    CINCINNATI - DECEMBER 26:  Carson Palmer #9 of the Cincinnati Bengals throws a pass during the NFL game against the San Diego Chargers at Paul Brown Stadium on December 26, 2010 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals 34-20.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
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    Now let's look at Palmer. He's 31, not a spring chicken but younger than McNabb. He has playoff experience, and he still has a pretty good arm.

    However, Palmer's torn ACL and throwing elbow injury together have diminished Palmer from the quarterback he was coming out of college. He's still a great quarterback, it's hard to say he ever will be elite now, though.

    Then again, Palmer has played for the Bengals his entire career, and that organization has had a tough time coming up with anything resembling consistency.

    Palmer can command a good price on the market should the Bengals decide to trade him, and if the team is going younger, anything they can get from Palmer, who is under contract through the 2014 season, would be a boon.

How Would The Bengals Benefit?

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    CLEVELAND - SEPTEMBER 2: Dan LeFevour #15 of the Chicago Bears warms up before the preseason game against the Cleveland Browns on September 2, 2010 at Cleveland Browns Stadium in Cleveland, Ohio. The Browns defeated the Bears 13-10. (Photo by Justin K. Al
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    Dan LeFevour is a good developmental project for the Bengals. A sixth-round draft pick for the Bears in 2010, he was cut and subsequently picked up by the Bengals.

    LeFevour spent the season as the third string quarterback, but if Palmer leaves, one could assume LeFevour will get a real chance to compete.

    The Bengals also could draft a quarterback in the first or second round and take that route.

    Right now all options are on the table, and the Bengals look to be going into full rebuild mode for 2011.

Free Agency

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    SAN FRANCISCO, CA - JANUARY 02:    Alex Smith #11 of the San Francisco 49ers runs against the Arizona Cardinals during an NFL game at Candlestick Park on January 2, 2011 in San Francisco, California.  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)
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    Once a new CBA is reached, there also will be some free agent moves, which also will affect the market. If a new CBA happens before the draft, that will set in motion one course of events.

    If it doesn't happen until after the draft, then some teams may already have decided to go with a rookie and develop him, and Palmer and the others will face a shrinking market.

    This is a constantly evolving situation, and it will be entertaining to watch it play out this year.