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This photoshop (if you can call it that) was made by one excited fan of Brock Lesnar following his first MMA fight against an unranked opponent. This happens all the time; Any fighter who wins a high profile fight is instantly compared to the No...

Fedor VS Lesnar (comparison)

by Anthony Pole (Scribe)

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September 10, 2008


This photoshop (if you can call it that) was made by one excited fan of Brock Lesnar following his first MMA fight against an unranked opponent.

 

This happens all the time; Any fighter who wins a high profile fight is instantly compared to the No. 1 fighter in the world.

 

Remember when Tim Sylvia called Fedor Emelianenko a p****, and claimed that he'd match-up well with Fedor? How about Chuck Liddell promising a KO over Fedor (you can view all the above interviews on youtube)?

 

How about Gonzaga hype? Even Mike Whitehead claimed he'd beat Fedor after his win over Mark Kerr. The latest in this interesting and 100 percent idiotic trend is the comparison between Lesnar and Fedor. Well, here are facts:

 

 

How did Fedor fair against world class wrestlers?

 

 

Mark Coleman

 

Coleman used to be around 250lbs, only about 15 lbs smaller than Brock Lesnar. Mark was an NCAA wrestling champion just like Brock, except Mark was also a World Champion wrestler (not the fake kind), and an Olympian (both of which Lesnar is not ).

 

Mark was also ranked top three in MMA at the time of his first fight with Fedor, while Lesnar is unranked and was recently defeated by an unranked fighter.

 

Fedor made Coleman submit in a couple of minutes—twice.

 

 

Author Poll

Fedor VS Lesnar

  • Fedor by sub 1st round
  • Fedor by sub, but not in 1st round
  • Fedor by TKO
  • Fedor by decision
  • Lesnar by TKO 1st round
  • Lesnar by TKO, but not in 1st round
  • Lesnar by UD
  • Lesnar by SD
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Author Poll Results

Fedor VS Lesnar

  • Fedor by sub 1st round

    37.3%

  • Fedor by sub, but not in 1st round

    21.4%

  • Fedor by TKO

    24.4%

  • Fedor by decision

    1.9%

  • Lesnar by TKO 1st round

    4.9%

  • Lesnar by TKO, but not in 1st round

    7.5%

  • Lesnar by UD

    1.9%

  • Lesnar by SD

    0.6%
  • Total votes: 308
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  1. Fortun Kimura 10 months ago

    prepare yourself friend for the WWE fanboys.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      *hides*

      But seriously I'm a BIG BIG BIG fan of Lesnar. It's true. I'm just being real. I respect Randy also, but I hope Brock wins. I really wanted him to beat Mir too, and I was rootin for him VS Herring as well.

      War Brock!

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    • Bryan Trafford 10 months ago

      we aren't WWE fanboys because we trashed your horribly incorrect and off based Lesnar bashing article Ron.

      As for this article, who is actually saying Lesnar will beat Fedor? I can't think of a single writer, fighter, or person whose opinion I respect that has said Lesnar will beat Fedor. At least anytime soon. So really what's your point here?

      Maybe your next article should be that History shows us Cote can't beat Anderson Silva. lol

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Bryan,

      The Lesnar > Fedor articles, posts, threads and arguments have began way before Lesnar even had his first fight. The photoshop that I used for this article was part of a hundreds of pages long thread no Sherdog, the world's biggest MA website, where thousands of people argued to no end as to would Lesnar defeat Fedor or not.

      You can even find "Lesnar is an elite HW" suggestions and opinions even on this website.

      Lesnar bashing is silly. He is a hard worker and a superior athlete, absolutely amazing! But I just don't see how he is top 10 yet, while many already do.

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    • Bryan Trafford 10 months ago

      as I said anthony, no one with any actual knowledge of the sport would argue that Brock would beat Fedor. I know this is only your second article but you might wanna stay away from stating blaringly obvious points in your articles.

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  2. david wills 10 months ago

    Brock always has a chance because of his sheer size and "wrassling" background,but against a vet with good subs(fedor) or a fighter with good feet (cro-cop) he's gonna fall short. You have to really watch Fedor to see his genius in action.... the guy always finds a way to win, no matter how it looks to that point in a fight he just a move away from winning. He can do this without taking half the thrashing Nog needs to eek out a win. And for a bit of a dough boy he can sure move!

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  3. Jared Leatzow 10 months ago

    I don't know what your talking about Fedor who? Just kidding, but seriously Lesnar has no chance enough said the article proves it, Fedor is the son of god.

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  4. Emperor 10 months ago

    A lot of BS in that article, especially the part praising Choi, who is a terrible fighter and a terrible wrestler. He isn't a K-1 regional champion. Lindland put on some weight but the size and strength difference was apparant. Frank Mir is a really good submission artist (BJJ expert), unranked or not.

    But yeah, there is no possible way that Fedor would lose to Brock. I doubt the fight would last a minute

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Emperor,

      What do you mean Choi is a terrible fighter and a terrible wrestler??? What are you basing this claim on? What is the FACTUAL basis for your claim? Mine is that Choi is a national Wrestling Champion, he is 12-4 in K1 VS elite opposition (fact) He did win 2005 GP in K1 regional. this is a fact. Simply check the K1 website.

      Matt Lindland has stated in a Sherdog interview that size and strength had nothing to do with it. He stated that Fedor's great ground skills were the reason he lost. Do YOU know better than Matt??????? Matt put on no weight, he fought at his NORMAL weight, according to himself. he simply didn't cut weight, that's all. Strength??? Matt looked stronger than Fedor, I don't know what fight you were watching, Matt muscled fedor into the corner like a 12 year old.

      Mir is great, but he is not an elite HW at this time. that's all.

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    • Emperor 10 months ago

      Anthony, I'm a hardcore K-1 fan, have you seen footage on the man? He is terrible, he has virtually lost most of his fights, he got knocked out cold by mighty mo, and beaten around by Koakly, which was a terrible terrible decision (just like many of his so-called victories). The K-1 website is full of shit, it's easy to read records but watching the fights tells you a bit more.

      I can't remember the last time Choi made it to the last 8 (when he does it's because a promoter fills a spot). He is put in the same category as Bob Sapp by most knowledgeable fightfans. In other words, he's a freakshow a la Sapp. It's simply not right to talk about the man as a K-1 champion or a wrestling champion. He isn't even a wrestling champion, he's champion of this weird ass Korean sport, I forgot the name.

      I didn't think Matt looked stronger at all. To me it looked more like man vs. boy. I just don't like the tone of that article. The writer is talking about the Choi win as if it were some kind of accomplishment. I can tell you that NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE was questioning the outcome of that fight. The only question was how long before Fedor was gonna submit him. Choi himself before the fight said he was happy to have the honor to fight Fedor alone and that he will do his very best to "compete" with him hahaha

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Emperor,

      I agree that Choi sucks. But he uses his size to win, so his results do NOT suck. Just like a smaller man uses his speed, a big guy like Choi or Tim or Schilt uses his size.

      Look at Schilt, he sucks!!! But he is the best k1 fighter in history. A paradox, but true.

      Sapp also sucks, but do you remember what he did to Nog??? Size is a HUGE ally.

      Choi is so big that he would not be allowed in UFC!!! Fedor actually stepped up in weight class to fight him. I think that's balls. fedor had nothing to gain and everything to lose. I liked that fight.

      You're right, the tone of my article is nasty, but so is this "Lesnar is an elite HW" popular claim. And how the F does he even deserve the title shot?????

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  5. John emms 10 months ago

    Another cheap way to get people to comment, eh? Brock will beat Fedor if he beats Couture and Nog. Count on it. But if he loses to those other guys why even talk about Fedor?

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  6. Mike Barraza 10 months ago

    Fedor has also shown in the past that he can throw big guys around. Remember his fight with Kerry "Meat Truck" Schall? That guy is a monster at 6'2 265 pounds of muscle, roughly the same size and build as Bock, and Fedor through him around like a rag doll and eventually got the armbar. Fedor will do whatever he wants to Brock no matter who Brock beats or how good he gets, Fedor will be always be better.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Good point Mike. I forgot about that guy.

      Tim Sylvia is also Brock's size, while Schilt is far bigger. Size is not a problem for Fedor nor is the wrestling.

      Fedor spent years rolling with his brother, who is 6'6 260lbs and a 3-time World Combat Sambo Champion. Fedor tooled him daily.

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  7. Mike Barraza 10 months ago

    I think Fedor actually likes fighting big men, I think he does some kind of special training or something to prepare him to fight larger opponents. Obviously he is abnormally strong, and he has no problem with dealing with larger fighters from looking at his past. He said in an article once when asked "if a Strongman Competition-type of man were to enter MMA, would that pose any problems for you?" or something like that, and he said no, it wouldn't be a problem or something like that, like he'd be prepared. So I think he is very comfortable fighting bigger guys because he always trains with guys like Aleksander, Roman Zentsov, and Sergei Kharitonov(when he was with Russian Top Team), and who knows what other huge Russians he trains with.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Fedor trained with Orlov, a 6'8 300lbs Russian kickboxer. Fedor also had a grappling coach (not Voronov) who is about 2 times fatter than Fedor, and basically just sat on fedor the whole time.

      I wonder if Fedor would enlist the services of Karelin for his match with Couture, but unlikely.

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  8. Derek Bolender 10 months ago

    I don't think anyone thinks that brock lesnar could beat fedor. The past really has nothing to do with it either. It's all about matchups. Even if lesnar could physically toss around fedor the trump card will always be fedor's submissions.

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  9. Fortun Kimura 10 months ago

    Bryan, I said watch out for the WWE fanboys specifically because I knew that one of them like yourself would comment like that. Thank you for reaffirming my belief.

    Don't take offense. I only call you a WWE fanboy because of your illogical love for a one-dimensional fighter. And also I didn't answer your comments on my article because you "fanboys" didn't pose any actual arguments of why I was wrong.

    The truth is Brock is "just a wrestler" in a "mixed martial arts" world.

    You call yourself MMA fans? Have some MMA Pride.

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  10. SoberDude 10 months ago

    Well, I for one do think Brock can beat Fedor. That does not mean he will, but he has a better shot than anyone else to beat Fedor. You also have to take into consideration that by the time this fight actually takes place (if it does), Lesnar could have 3-4 more fights under his belt. Lesnar will only get better over time. His fight with Mir was a fluke, and anyone that thinks Mir has any chance in beating Lesnar in the future will be sadly disappointed. Lesnar may not be able to dispatch Timmy boy the way Fedor did, but I see Timmy boy faring no better than Herring against Lesnar. Lesnar is the real deal, and after he dispatches Couture, maybe there will be more believers. WAR BROCK! By the way, I'm no WWE fanboy. I have been watching and following the UFC since UFC 1. By the way, Brock is not just a wrestler, he is a wrecking machine that knows how to knock someone on their ass and then beat the crap out of them. Call it what you will. If you want a one-dimensional fighter, look at the Ice-Man, that dude that just got KTFO.

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    • Emperor 10 months ago

      Just read that in disbelief. I will never understand people like you. Sorry to say this but you haven't got the slightest clue :(

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Jeff,

      LOL

      p.s.
      Former UFC Champion and an MMA legend Ricco Rodriguez stated this: "When I heard Lesnar would fight Mir, I knew there can only be one outcome to that kind of a fight, and that is Mir by submission 1st round."

      Let me ask you Jeff: Do YOU know better than Ricco?

      Do you think that YOUR opinion is as good as Ricco's??????

      yes or no.

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    • SoberDude 10 months ago

      Ricco is a washed up has-been. His opinion is no better than anyone elses. Guess what, I was wrong about the Mir fight. Mir got lucky, and that's a fact. Like I said, if and when they fight again, watch what happens. I also said Lesnar would beat Herring, but I had no idea the punishment Herring would take in that fight. Herring was beat down so badly that he was the only fighter from UFC 87 that had no post-locker room interview. I think he was too busy spitting or coughing up blood.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Jeff,

      I assure you that Ricco's opinion is worth more than yours. Ricco has recently done very well against very tough Antonio Silva and others. There is no need to hate Ricco. Even if he was retired, he;'d know more than you obviously.

      peace,

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    • Robert DesRoche 10 months ago

      Appeal to authority. Learn to debate Anthony, perhaps without making such a jackass out of yourself. You're arguments are so fallacious it's absurd. Just because one person says something is true doesn't mean its true, even if it's an expert opinion. Besides, how much do you want to bet I could find another mma expert that thought Lesnar would beat Mir? You're just as clueless as anyone else and you need to get ahold of the fact and stop being so arrogant about your opinions.

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    • SoberDude 10 months ago

      Not sure why your bringing up Ricco. Many 'experts' expected Mir to win, just like many 'experts' expected Herring to beat up Lesnar. So where does that get you? What happened to Indy on Sunday when they were beat by the Bears at home? How many experts called that? What happened to Liddell on Saturday? How many experts called that? What happened to GSP in his first fight with Serra? How many experts called that? Matt Hughes went to UFC 87 to watch Lesnar destroy Herring, does that make him an expert because he was right? Opinions are just that, opinions. You will only know forsure who is going to win the competition after the competition is over with, then based on your opinion, you were either right or wrong. What was Ricco's take on Lesnar-Herring? He was probably wrong on that fight, so is he still an expert? I'm an expert in my own mind, and yes, I get it wrong sometimes too, and so do you and Anthony and everyone else posting on this board. Until I see otherwise, I see Lesnar beating Couture. It is really useless to post dumb articles about Lesnar and Fedor, as no fight has been signed and we have no idea if they are actually ever going to fight in the future. We should be talking about Lesnar and Couture or Fedor and AA/Barnett. Articles like this one are more geared to bash Lesnar and raise the feathers of the ones that feel that Lesnar is actually legit, like myself.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Robert,

      Go ahead and name me a top MMA fighter who predicted Lensar to beat Mir (don't forget to include link and proof)

      thanks,

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    • Robert DesRoche 10 months ago

      You missed the point. I'm not going to waste my time.

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  11. SoberDude 10 months ago

    I will gladly eat my words if Lesnar is not the UFC champ in 6 months time (after he dispatches Couture and Nog).

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  12. Dorothy Willis 10 months ago

    It will be so good to have the Couture Lesnar match over so this can be put to rest.

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  13. Caesar Mapalad 10 months ago

    I love this! People exchanging barbs about this and that. But fellas, let's remember that these are ALL opinions and everyone is entitled to voice theirs. No need to get testy or rude. Here are the facts: Lesnar has not fought Fedor. Whether or not Fedor can beat Lesnar is pure speculation. Odds are better for Fedor to win but, like I said, until it happens it is PURE speculation. Same goes Lesnar beating Fedor. I think Lesnar has a good chance to beat Randy, Nog and Mir (the second time around). Does this mean he will? Absolutely not. That's why we pay a big chunk of our hand-earned money to pay DirecTV once a month, LOL. So we can actually see whose prediction comes to fruition. IN the end, we are all MMA fans and we love to see good fights regardless of the outcome. Peace all!

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Caesar,

      You know, no knowledgeable MMA fan gave brock a chance in hell VS Mir. Noobs thought he will be ok :)

      That fight was a marketing decision, Dana andthe match-maker knew very VERY well that Mir will sub Lesnar in the 1st.

      I remember reading a post by an actual fighter, who wrote only one thing: "Mir by leg sub, 1st round"
      Someone asked him, why leg sub? And the fighter responded: "Lesnar's arms are too big, Franky has been training leg locks all month"

      You see? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but often it's the wrong opinion :) The FACT is that fedor will beat Lesnar 100 out of 100 times they fight.

      Hell, fedor will probably beat Lesnar 102 times out of 100 times they fight!

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    • Caesar Mapalad 10 months ago

      With all due respect, Anthony. It is not fact. It may be close to being true, but until it happens, it is speculation. Albeit a very good one. Anyone can get caught. If I had the money, I would've bet that GSP beats Matt Serra 10 out of 10 times. People actually laughed out loud when it was announced that Griffin was fighting Shogun. Buster Douglas and Mike Tyson??? Anyone can get caught. ON PAPER, Fedor wins this one but anything can happen when the fight starts. Fedor could very well get taken down and get injured on the way down, changing the complection of the whole fight. My point is that nothing is certain. I agree that Fedor is the better fighter, but that's why they have to fight.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      absolutely.

      Anyone can lose. I'm just saying it's silly to bet against a heavy favorite. Heavy favorites are such because they win more than they lose, so upsets are rare.

      You know I was LOL when Pride boss Sakikabara said: "If our champion (was Fedor) fights their (UFC) champion (was Tim Sylvia), our champion would win 100 out of 100 times"
      While Dana White and Tim were too busy calling fedor a pus.. and saying that fedor is not top 5"

      Well... I guess we found out the truth about UFC hype. But yeah, theoretically Fedor can lose to Justin McCully, I just wouldn't bet my house on Justin :)

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    • Caesar Mapalad 10 months ago

      Yup, I wouldn't bet against the favorite, but there's a chance. I woul've bet the house on GSP winning the first fight against Serra and would've been, as they say, ASS OUT. Like you said, theoretically anyone can be beat. And that's why Fedor beating Lesnar 100 out of 100 times is speculation - not fact.

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  14. Fortun Kimura 10 months ago

    Robert, buddy I was talking to you. I don't mean to call you WWE fanboys out specifically. But your response has prompted me to.

    If you think Lesnar is going to blow Couture out of the water, you just might be a WWE fanboy.

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    • Bryan Trafford 10 months ago

      and if he does blow Couture out of the water are you going to shut your mouth? I doubt it but at least nobody will have to pretend like you have a respectable opinion anymore.

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  15. Fortun Kimura 10 months ago

    Robert, buddy I was talking to you. I don't mean to call you WWE fanboys out specifically. But your response has prompted me to.

    If you think Lesnar is going to blow Couture out of the water, you just might be a WWE fanboy.

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    • Leon Horne 10 months ago

      How would you respond if he does? I'm reserving any predictions for this fight because IMO it is a sure fire way to end up looking like an idiot. On the one hand you have Experienced Couture who knows how to win a fight that on paper looks bad for him. On the other hand he has pretty much been retired for the last year and a half and this is his first fight. Lesnar is inexperienced and we saw him get caught against Mir and it can and will most definetly happen a gain in his career. On the other hand, Brock will have about 50lbs to 60lbs on Couture and this isn't like Tank Abbott or Tim Sylvia big, the guy is an all around athlete.

      This is a very tight fight to call. Randy could sub Lesnar in beginnng, ride it out to a decision etc. etc. Lesnar could catch Randy with a right hand punch like he did against Mir and Herring in the first few seconds and crack Randy's orbital bone and damage the eye ball.

      It's stupid to sit there and predict what will happen in this fight there are too many unkowns.

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  1. Anthony Pole 10 months ago

    For the record guys:

    I titled my thread (article) fedor VS Lesnar facts.

    I didn't say Lesnar can't win. I don't believe he can, but it's just my opinion. In my article I was simply comparing the 2 men. The editors do a great job, but in this case they have changed the name of the article and the meaning of it with it.

    sorry if anyone is offended. I'm a BIG fan of Lesnar. I just don't think he can beat E-Fed, but so what??? Nobody can at this time.

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  2. Leon Horne 10 months ago

    One problem, Coleman went into fights around 250Lbs. Lesnar shows up at weigh ins 265lbs and actually is around 280 lbs on fight night. Big difference. Frank Mir weighed 250 lbs at weigh in, Lesnar still looked way bigger and obviously was faster and stronge. Thing is Mir is a world class Jitz guy and Lesnar is green in that area still, although he is learning to defend and stick to a gameplan that works for him no matter how boring it may be.

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  3. Leon Horne 10 months ago

    Lesnar did fight a striker and he didn't get hit once it was embarassing for Herring. Herring had never been dominated like that in his entire career and this was a guy that was within inches of finishing of Nogueira last time they fought. Lesnar isn't ready for Fedor, but he is going to be a scarry heavy weight in the future, especially if he does manage to take COuture in his next fight.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Good points, but Fedor dominated Herring far worse I think. And Herring is not a striker, he is.... umm.... I don't know what he is :) He is Herring.

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  4. Bryan Trafford 10 months ago

    Anthony your still missing the point that nobody that has a credible opinion has stated on this site or anywhere else that Brock WILL beat Fedor. They may have said he matches up physically well or poses some problems, but I've checked with just about every respectable writer on this site, and I couldn't find anyone who thought Brock would beat Fedor if they fought now.

    So who are you actually addressing this to?

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      "respectable" being the key word. There is even a guy a few post above yours who thinks Lesnar would win...

      I'm surprised you think this is unusual. Google search words like "Fedor VS Lesnar" or similar, and see for yourself. There are thousands of such people, maybe hundreds of thousands, who think Brock will own anyone including Fedor. It's like the Bruce Lee crowd from youtube.

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    • Bryan Trafford 10 months ago

      well, since I want to stop bashing your article Anthony, I guess I'll give you my opinion on such a matchup. Fedor by leglock submission, round 1.

      However if Brock can beat Randy and Nog or Mir and become the UFC heavyweight champion, I might review my prediction at that time. It's simply too early in Brock's career to even speculate on him beating Fedor. We have too many unanswered questions. We haven't seen Brock's standup in its entirety yet. We haven't seen his submission defense tested since the Mir fight. We don't know if he can fight off his back. We don't know if he can slap an armbar on a guy, or a choke for that matter. We haven't seen it yet.

      The win over Herring showed us that Brock has natural athletic talents as well as wrestling skills that allowed him to dominate a good but not great veteran MMA heavyweight. He did what he needed to do. I want to see him finish someone by ko or submission. I want to see him do something other than power out of a submission attempt. Hell, at this point he probably needs to go train with Fedor! lol

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  5. Leon Horne 10 months ago

    Herring is a striker, he hates going to the ground and would much rather trade punches standing up. Okay maybe Fedor did dominate herring more, (Fedor didn't get hit once in the fight?). But, put that aside who besides Fedor has dominated Herring in a fashion similar to the way Brock did when they fought? No one, and for a fighter that has only 3 fights under his belt, that is pretty good.

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  6. Emperor 10 months ago

    Jeff, please pass me that chronic on how the hell Lesnar is going to beat Nog—can't believe the crap that comes out of your mouth (with all due respect ofcourse).

    This is MMA, not WWE! lol

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  7. SoberDude 10 months ago

    Who cares about WWE? Why even keep bringing up the WWE? Lesnar is going to beat the Nog the same way Herring ALMOST KO'd Nog. Except that Lesnar's punch will be harder and Nog will be KTFO. That's how. Simple.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      LOL Jeff!

      Nog is not going to stand with Lesnar longer than about 2 seconds, before he subs him just like Mir did. Of course Nog stood with Herring, Herring is a different fighter from Lesnar, every fighter has a different game-plan for every fight depending on who they are facing.

      basics of MMA, something that WWE fans don't grasp.

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  8. James Trotta 10 months ago

    Stop calling names "you fanboi" because hiding behind insults does not hide your stupid topic or your stupid arguments. Even your title "History shows that Brock Lesnar cannot beat Fedor" is an example of extreme stupidity seeing as how Brock and Fedor have no history.

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    • Anthony Pole 10 months ago

      Do you know WHY Brock and Fedor have no history?

      Because Brock is an infant in MMA, while Fedor has been there/done that/got the T-shirt.

      If you gonna give Brock a chance VS Fedor, you may as well give Brock a chance VS Usain Bolt in running. Don't forget to let Lensar train running for a few months, and have him get smashed by some runner outside the top 10, and THEN claim Lesnar is faster than Bolt.

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  9. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    You're an idiot Anthony. Brock is new in MMA yes, but he has been in combat sport since high school and he knows how to wrestle (very strong base for MMA competition). Comparing him to Usain Bolt and saying he can beat him in 100m is weak and completely irrelevant.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Wrestling has almost as little do do with submissions and striking (the 2 things which are a MUST for MMA or a real fight) as it has with running.

      Brock has not been in combat sports at all. He just started.

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    • Caesar Mapalad 9 months ago

      Anthony, wrestling is a combat sport. It's as much a grappling sport as BJJ or Judo.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Wrestling is not as good base for MMA as BJJ or Judo is, but of course it's a contact sport, and a great base for MMA. It's just 100% retarded to hear the crap Lesnar fans come up with. They need a cold shower once in a while (like the kind Franky gave them :)

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    • Caesar Mapalad 9 months ago

      What I saw Frank Mir do was get dominated by Lesnar, who at the time had 1 pro fight, and then was given the opportunity by a very inexperienced fighter by giving him a leg. Now I'm not sure if I can defend a heel hook or leg lock on my second pro fight either. Wouldn't even know what to look for until it was too late. I bet Lesnar knows what to look for now. Win or lose, after the Couture fight Lesnar will be a force in MMA. 10, 15 fights down the road, this man will be scary. Not saying he will beat Fedor, but I wouldn't be too quick to say he can't.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Caesar,

      I like Lesnar, but history tells us that no matter how big and athletic someone is, they just can't rise to the top of the ratings if they don't have world class striking and subs. Look at who dominates MMA: Fedor -world class striking and subs, ok wrestling. Nog - ok striking, world class subs, good wreslting but below fedor's. BJ Penn - amazing striking and subs, terrible wreslting. Anderosn Silva - amazing striking and subs, non-existent wrestling.

      the greatest wrestlers in MMA (Couture, Coleman, Hughes, Lindland etc) all lost to super submission guys, and always will, it's historical fact and precedent.

      I think Lesnar is top 10 right NOW skill-wise, but top 4 NEVER. You got guys like barnett who is huge and can twist Brock's leg off no matter how long Brock trains for it, because Barney has been doing it for decades.

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    • Caesar Mapalad 9 months ago

      Anthony, avoiding submissions can be learned. GSP got caught in an armbar by Hughes and I bet he doesn't get caught again. What is on Lesnar's side is that it (submission) happened early on in his pro career so he can work on that ASAP. Lesnar is a sponge (from what I've heard). He can learn to use his strength to avoid predicaments like the one that Mir put him in. Will he do it by his next fight? Probably not, but we can't possibly say he will never be able to beat a submission artist. For a long time, Matt Hughes, Chuck Liddell, Tito Ortiz and others have been able to succeed without as much as a submission game. Matt Hughes beat Royce Gracie (BJJ God). Like I said before, Lesnar is probably ahead of a lot of superstars at the same point in their careers (3 pro fights). He will only get better. Imagine the Lesnar that beat Herring, only better. What Lesnar is gonna do after every fight, win or lose, is improve and learn. For latecomers to the sport, wrestling may be the best base to have. Look at Koschek, Velasquez, Dolloway and even Jon Fitch. IT's not just the wrestling skill that helps great wrestlers become good MMA fighters, it's the balance and the hips that they develop from training in wrestling for so long. Would I put money on Lesnar to beat Nog, Mir or even Fedor? Hell no. But I am not stupid enough to bet against him, either.

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    • Caesar Mapalad 9 months ago

      "BJ Penn - amazing striking and subs, terrible wreslting."

      BJ's wrestling is a lot better than you think. He just has a bad habit of fighting in weight classes that are way above his natural class. When he fought Pulver (a pretty good wrestler) he took him down at will and BJ's top control is world class. Whenever BJ fights someone in his weight class (155), he can take down most anybody, except the excellent wrestlers like Sherk.

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      Anthony it is an excellent base, because if you can dominate someone on the ground all you need is 2-3 solid submissions and you can end a fight in know time. Wrestling is what givesmany uFC fighter the ability to dominate on the ground. Matt Hughes, Randy Couture. Sean Sherk, Urijah Faber were all wrestlers first and it is the same stor for Brock Lesnar.

      Comparing his stint in MMA to being able to beat 100m world class sprinters is absolutely ridiculous. If you were right then Lesnar would be 0-3 in MMA cause there isn't one 100m sprinter in the world that would lose to Lesnar. That I can guarantee you.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      I was just making a point. Not to be taken literally.

      One interesting point:
      In UFC wrestlers do a LOT better than in Japan, because no knees to the head on the ground means wrestlers can shoot over and over and there will be no consequences. And also elbows mean wrestlers can inflict more damage after the takedown using these easily learnable and often available weapons.

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  10. Kevin Curran 9 months ago

    i like the concept of this articel. Though i think Fedor would win, MMA math is only rarely right. I wouldnt rely on it.

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  11. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    One more thing, Anthony did you watch the Fedor Herring fight? Fedor won by doctor stoppage, but in the last round Heath was on top and passed Fedor's guard delivering knees and elbows for the last 30 seconds or so. When Herring fought Lesnar I don't even think he hit Lesnar once, let alone get on top or pass his guard. Yeah the doctors finished the fight for Fedor, but Herring delivered somethings of his own when he fought Fedor. Against Lesnar Heath pretty much looked dumbfounded as to what he could try and decided that laying on his belly and riding it out was the best he could do.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      1- Herring was ranked #2 in the world at the time of the Fedor fight, while Fedor was unranked, he was a nobody, he had a lot to learn.

      2- The doctor didn't stop the fight FOR Fedor, the doctor stopped the fight because Fedor made Herring's face look like something out of a horror movie.

      3- Last round??? There was only 1 round in the Fedor-Herring fight. Unlike Lesnar fedor does NOT need 3 rounds for Herring.

      4- Herring ended up on top of Fedor once because Fedor went for submission (something that Lesnar had no balls to do) and Fedor lost the position because of that. Fedor went for that sub because he knew there is several seconds left in the round, and he will be safe even if he loses the position.

      5- Fedor has dominated Herring stopping him in 1 round, delivering several throws, slams, reversals, strikes etc. While Lesnar did what is called "sherking" -meaning he did NOTHING aside from one big punch, he just did enough to win on "ground control".

      hope that helps :)

      p.s.
      If you have any fedor or MMA questions for me, I'l give you facts.
      cheers,

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  12. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Yeah, but the fact of the matter is Herring did nothing in the Lesnar fight and you can't seem to admit that fedor was hit in that fight. Lesnar had absolutely no damage and why did Lesnar Sherk it as you say, simple he knew Herring was hurt and he wasn't going to risk losing to in a row in his first 2 fights.

    By the way did you watch the last Yoshiro Maeda fight in WEC look at what happened to his left eye, doctors stopped it. Doctors could have stopped Lesnar's too cause Herring's eye was closed shut, orbital bone was busted and he even admitted to not being able to see out of it.

    I can readily admit Herring was owned in that fight with Fedor, but I can also admit that the loss he had to Lesnar was right behind the loss he had to Fedor for the simple fact that all he could do all fight was roll up into a ball on his belly the whole fight and not try to mount any offense whatsoever.

    One good punch, well that is all he as needed so far to send his opponents to the ground, is it Lesnar's fault that his opponents fall to the ground after one punch. Sadly (I mean this cause I find Herring a great guy for the sport) is out for 6 months cause that one punch cracked Herring's orbital bone.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Herring didn't hit Fedor even once in their fight, not once. not one time. Fedor also sucked back than compared to now. Look at Fedor-Schilt from the same period, fedor had LOTS of work to do to improve.

      I like Lesnar, I hope he wins VS Couture. But Herring is just not a good indication of Lesnar's skill, we need to see more, Herring has been unable to defeat anyone recently. He used to be amazing back in the day thou.

      I'm hoping lesnar learns sub defense, but as of NOW he is a nobody. Mir twisted his leg off, and Mir is a nobody himself right now (I hope he makes a comeback, I like Mir too, but as of NOW Mir is unranked, having been humiliated by Vera and another loser)

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      In the end of the roudn he hit Fedor with knees and a cuple of elbows. Watch the fight again, even the announcers said Fedor had straight domination in the first round, but that Herring regained some face in the last 30-40 seconds when he was on top and past the guard.

      By the way Herring isn't doing anything. He beat Cheick Congo, he had his best chance at beating Nogueira in their most recent matchup. Many thought the Congo match was his best performance in the octagon so far.

      Mir is not a nobody anymore. He was a nobody when he had his motorcycle accident and got fat. Mir is in good shape now having lost most of his extra weight and he is focused back on fighting now. There is a reason he is the one fighting Nog in the final 4.

      His sub defense isn't crap. First he has no neck, forget about a choke. Second nobody will be able to arm bar him, Mir tried a good 3-4 times and Lesnar got out of it every time. A crappy defender would have gotten caught in those armbars (one of them broke Sylvia's remeber?). He isfar from a good defender, but he isn' a crap defender either.

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      You act like you have all the facts. Well Coleman weighing 250lbs does not equal 15lbs difference. Lesnar weighs in at 265lbs, but everyone knows on fight night he walks in at around 280lbs. Coleman, Herring and Mir on the contrary did all they could to get close to that 265lbs limit. Big, big difference.

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  13. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    By your deductions, Anderson Silva is a crappy defender because he got caught in a flying scissor heel hook by a nobody fighter.

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  14. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Fact, the Vera fight wasn't recent for Mir. It was in 2006 around the time everyone found Mir had gotten fat and wasn't in the game anymore. Ask any legitimate analyst or fighter and they will tell you Mir is not the same as he was after the accident and his fight against Hardonk was the first one where he looked back to his old self pre-accident and that was in 2007. Botht he Hardonk and Lesnar fight finished in the first round via submission in Frank's favor.

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  15. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Actually Hardonk went down a 1:17 in to the first against Mir. Lesnar went down a 1:30 in to the first round against Mir.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Aside from what Mir LOOKS like TO YOU, do you have any proof that he is back to being top 10? Who has he beat in the top 10 lately? I have some pro fighter friends who claim Mir is a total joke and will be smothered easily by Nog. We just don't know yet, ok?

      Herring didn't hit fedor with elbows because there are no elbows in Pride. (Body elbows don't count, as they do no damage, especially in the state Herring was in, I doubt he could have hurt Fedor even with a sledgehammer)

      Herring didn't hit fedor with any knees, fedor blocked 1 and rolled into 1 of them. there was no damage, zero, none, nada.

      Who cares about Coleman's weight??? Choi is twice as big and tall, and has the same record and wrestling titles as Lesnar (sept Choi can strike too)

      Who is Hardonk??? You can't be serious. Don't bring him up bro.

      peace,

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      Your are a Fedor nut hugger... The point is Herring managed to gain position on Fedor, against Lesnar he turtled the whole fight and hung on for dear life in what should have been a doctor stoppage. Whenever an eye gets closed up to the point you can't see any intelligent doctor would and should stop the fight.

      Point is you make it sound like Lesnar is a nobody when clearly he has potential. Just like crappy 2002 Fedor right Anthony, he got better didn't he. Herring is 28-14 and he beat Kongo, he isn't a slouch and for you to say so is disrespectful, he brought Nog his best fight last time and almost knocked him out (Nog has such a strong chin though it is unbeleivable).

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      Yeah Choi is big, so is Sylvia. But, there is a difference, none of them are nearly as quick as Lesnar is. Watch Lesnar's feet when he comes out against Herring and you will see. That is the difference, size means nothing if you are regular speed, start throwing on some quickness and then you start to have an advantage. Lesnar's quickness at his size is unmatched in the UFC right now and that is what he has going for him along with a heavy right hand and some wrestling abilities. Those maybe the only things he has going for him right now, but he only has up to go from here if he keeps working.

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  1. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Anyways I'm done here. Anything can happen, hell I hope Couture can keep his Legacy going and get his fight against Fedor. But, if Lesnar comes out on top of this 4 man title challenge, the articles saying Lesnar is a nobody and will always be a nobody are done.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Doctors don't stop the fight due to swollen eye, they stop IF blood gets IN the eye.

      You still fail to grasp that Fedor fought Herring when fedor sucked (relative to now) and Herring was #2 fighter in the world, while now Herring is unranked and sucks (relative to then)

      I know Lesnar can get better, but as of NOW he is a nobody. He couldn't even beat fat Franky, who is also another nobody as of NOW.

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      Watch the Maeda fight, his eye was closed shut and he couldn't see. How could you tell Herring didn't have blood? It was completely closed.

      Torso shits don't do damage? A well placed torso shot can break ribs and clavicles. I can't beleive you would say that, fighters have won fights with torso shots. If you can sit there and say that with a straight face then I question what facts you actually know.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Herrings "shots" (if you can call it that) to Fedor did no damage.

      Shut eye doesn't stop the fight unless there is proof that the fighter can't see out of it at all, that's why they test it.

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  2. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Well Mr. Herring said after the fight he couldn't see out of it after the punch and that was why he lost... So somebody didn't do their job.

    Whatever, you said body blows don't do damage especially Herring's in that fight. You basically said body shots don't do anything in MMA and that is pretty much a retarded statement.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      I said that Herrings elbows to fedor didn't do anything because there are no elbows in Pride to the face, while to the body, in Herring's state it could not have meant any damage to Fedor at all.

      Fedor damaged Herring far worse than Lesnar did. Fact.

      Herring was #2 in the world, while now he is unranked. Fact.

      I never claimed body shots don't do anything, because we were talking about elbows. Body shots include knees. Please don't change my words.

      Herring's face was ok during Lesnar fight and it was not stopped. Herring's face was not ok during fedor fight and the fight WAS stopped. Fact.

      fedor > Lesnar. Another Fact.

      peace,

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      I never said Lesnar was better then Fedor. But, you are completely blinded of anything else in the world of MMA. Herring's orbital bone was cracked he admitted himself that he could not see out of that eye and that it played a big role in why he lost. Rewatch the fight his eye was swollen shut, but okay pretend you didn't see it like everything else about anyother fighter who is in MMA unless their name is Fedor.

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  3. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Rankings are the all powerful god. Frank Mir is crap cause he is unranked... Nevermind the fact that he had a motorcycle accident and couldn't compete for 2 years, no that won't have any effect on your ranking...

    It is kind of the least objective way to go about guaging the sport, rankings. There isn't only one league in mma and each league has their stars. Comparing across the leagues is like comparing apples and oranges it is silly. That is why everyone has wanted to see a Fedor-Couture match, because until that day comes it is nothing, but speculation. Yeah they have faced common opponents, but their fights against those opponents are useless at guaging how their fight would go. This is a sport about matchups and a bit of luck (Serra vs. GSP first time, Silva vs. Chonan). Even the best of the best can lose to the worst professional fighters in the world.

    Your facts are facts, but it does not do anything for saying what would be fact if say Couture or anyother heavy weight for that matter went up against Fedor in their next fight. Why? You can't predict what will happen in MMA, you can try and every once in a while you get lucky and guess the right winner and how it was won.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Rankings are based on win/loss record. Mir won his last 2 fights VS bums and lost 2 more VS 2 other bums. This is not good.

      If anyone can lose, than tell me who Fedor lost to?

      (Don't worry, I'll wait)

      Don't cry!

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      You fake like you want to see Lesnar win against Couture and that you are pulling for him to make yourself sound objective and non-partial earlier on and then you go on just calling him a bum. Like I said Fedor nut hugger who is blind to anyone or anything else in MMA.

      One thing I do know is Fedor has utmost respect for every opponent he faces and knows that he could lose any of the matches he is thrown and that is why he is so succesful he never lets his ego inflate. It's a good thing you aren't in his camp telling him he can't lose and no one is better then him.

      Every athlete falls from grace in every sport no matter how invincible they may seem Federer, Sampras, Marino, Rice, Tiger Woods or they retire too early, Barry Saunders, Bjorn Borg etc. etc. Anyone who thinks otherwise is Naive. I don't think Fedor is losing anytime soon, but Couture if he gets his chance will not be rolling over and if one of the other 3 end up beating Couture and winning the title hopefully a fight will be organized between that fighter and Fedor as well.

      One thing I do know is this. If Lesnar miraculously manages to come out on top of this 4 man championship and gets a shot at Fedor. Fedor will see something he hasn't seen before a huge guy with speed and explosiveness of a light Heavy Weight. What that means I don't know, but it will be a matchup Fedor hasn't seen before. Don't start saying Sylvia or Choi because those guys aren't the half the athlete Lesnar is, they are much slower.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      I do like Lesnar, I do wish he'd beat Randy. I'm not crazy about Randy for several reasons.

      But at THIS time Lesnar is unranked and not anywhere remotely close to top 5, so I called him a bum, it's a term for unranked fighter, don't take it too seriously.

      Nobody cares about Lesnar's speed or size, this is not track and field, this is MMA, and in MMA you either have sub defense or you don't, Lesnar does NOT = he gets his leg twisted off, it's that simple.

      And lol at Randy VS fedor. Grandpa will be Zulu'd in several seconds.

      cheers,

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  4. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    No speed and athleticism mean nothing. Tell that to Jon Fitch in his last fight against GSP or Quinton Jackson when he fought Wanderlei Silva. Or any fighter that has faced Anderson Silva. Speed mean nothing...

    Like I said one sub and he has no sub defense... Yet you failed to realize that he escaped around 2-3 arm bar attempts that Mir tried. Also that Anderson Sylva got caught by a flying scissor heel hook against a fighter he had been dominating the whole match. Oh Anderson must have crap sub defense, he only has a BB in BJJ. Oh, yeah he got caught cause of the quickness of his opponent, oops, but that means nothing.

    It's like in any sport speed and explosiveness mean nothing if you can't do anything else required for the sport. But, if you already are decent at the sport and then you add that on to it, it does nothing but help.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      The fighters you mentioned are top MMA fighters, they have sub defense, Lesnar does not.

      Lesnar got caught by an unranked fighter. his positioning looked horrible. Mir was so bad at that kneebar that you could see lesnar's foot sliding out (Mir admitted it) Yet he still got lesnar.

      There is no FACTUAL reasons to think Lesnar is great at this time. Maybe he will be, maybe not, but as of NOW he is not tops.

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    • Leon Horne 9 months ago

      I'm not saying he is great. But, for you to say that speed and explosiveness are not important is straight retarded. There is a reason fighters work on plyometric training.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Strength and speed is nothing compared to subs and sub defense. Just look at Coleman, he benched 500lbs and had Fedor's back, what did he do with it? Nothing :) Then he had to defend an armbar. How did he do? Not too well :) Notice that Cole is a VASTLY superior wrestler to Lesnar, VASTLY! It's not even close. Cole was a World Champion (not the fake kind) and an Olympian, this ain't NCAA anymore bro, but Cole won that too.

      Cole actually has sub defense and subbed some top people himself, but guess what?? Sub defense and sub defense on top level are 2 VERY different things.

      You probably thought Tim would beat E-Fed also, you people never learn.

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  5. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    No I didn't hing Tim would win at all. I was never impressed by Tim he looks out of shape all the time.

    You fail to ackowledge that Lesnar succesfully defended against 2 armbars by a BJJ black belt in Mir. If he were that bad he would have tapped out cause of the armbars not Franks third sub attempt which was the knee-bar.

    He already has sub defense just cause of his build. No one will choke him out, he has no neck and I can't see anyone getting an arm bar to work. Everyone gets caught in knee bars, if nobody did there would be no submission wins or losses at the top level. But, as we all know even the best defenders get caught.

    His submission defense will onyl get better, he is a quick learn. Anybody that can walk onto a NFL team and then be offered a contract to play for their Euro league team (after a big motorcyle accident) is a quick learner.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      Black Belt means nothing on highest level. There are hundreds of black belts, there are only 5 top 5 MMA fighters. Mir's belt is useless and unimportant.

      What is your FACTUAL basis for the claim that Lesnar can not be choked or armbarred? Fujita has no neck either, yet he got choked just fine.

      EVERYONE gets caught in knee bars? Like Fedor you mean?...

      YOU can't see anyone armbarring him? Sapp is much bigger and stronger than Lesnar (fact based on their numbers) , yet he got armbarred by a guy much weaker than Fedor.

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  6. Leon Horne 9 months ago

    Whatever man I'm done arguing. Keep to your opinion thinking you are the guru of MMA and I'm just going to watch how things play out over the next 8-12 months. Not everything you say is fact just because you say it is.

    Fact NCAA wrestlers who had success in college or further usually end up having decent MMA careers even if they hadn't trained in BJJ or Muay Thai in high school or college. Matt Hughes, Randy Couture, Urijah Faber, Mark Coleman, Dan Henderson, Randleman, Lindland, Rashad Evans, Tito Ortiz and the list goes on. Not all of them were NCAA national champs yet they still have carried on succesful careers in MMA. Clearly Lesnar is part of this list when it comes to wrestling and he is obviously a fast learner. So unless MMA drastically changes the fact is most elite college wrestlers who get into MMA have had succesful careers and become household names in MMA. That is a fact, there is no reason to think Lesnar won't follow in their foot steps. He is a great wrestler, he is powerful and quick and he is a sponge when it comes to learning new things.

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Leon,

      I didn't say he isn't a sponge. I'm just saying that NOW he is unranked and a nobody. In future I hope he becomes a force.

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  7. Stoker Mac 9 months ago

    fedor is a bum..fought nobodys ..hasnt had one fight with aworld class fighter ..and he will continue to run from the great randy couture..

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    • Anthony Pole 9 months ago

      Looks likes Randy ran from him. Randy also ran from him in the past, when randy told you himself in a 3-part press conference (youtube) that he turned down 3 mil to face Fedor and instead faced Tim for 300k (10 times less money)

      You see stoker, you can't argue with facts. But you can keep repeating the same silly lies like a parrot thou :)

      Also, what you're doing is called fighter-bashing (fedor is a bum statement) and you should be banned or at least warned, but...

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  8. Joseph Lupoli 8 months ago

    Fedor VS Lesnar (facts)? What facts? They haven't even fought yet. LOL

    Joseph Lupoli

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  9. Joseph Lupoli 8 months ago

    Fedor VS Lesnar (facts)? What facts? They haven't even fought yet. LOL

    Joseph Lupoli

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  10. Martin 8 months ago

    By "facts" he means that he provides an argument, and then he provides evidence that is avilable to all. As opposed to: "I saw some video of someone fighting someone somewhere...If there were no rules, could he beat Fedor?"

    Go look for attention somewhere else.

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  11. Stoker Mac 8 months ago

    the fact is this article isnt even anthonys..he copied it and pasted...antony is atwelve year old boy with afedor fetish...he sleeps with afedor blowup doll ..in his mothers bed..tucked tight under the covers in case the boogieman might find him...hahaha....copy , paste..copy paste

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  12. Stoker Mac 8 months ago

    he fact is this article isnt even anthonys..he copied it and pasted...antony is atwelve year old boy with afedor fetish...he sleeps with afedor blowup doll ..in his mothers bed..tucked tight under the covers in case the boogieman might find him...hahaha....copy , paste..copy paste

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  13. Martin 7 months ago

    Stoker,
    Your Bio says "I have a natural talent for story telling and writing." Uhm, in English?

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  14. mike harvey 7 months ago

    I don't believe that Lesnar can beat Fedor at this point either but Brock brings more to the cage than Randleman and Coleman. Coleman is a juiced up 250 where brock has to drop from 290 to make weight (265) and if Lesnar hit Fedor with the same throw Randleman did, Fedor would have a broken back. Again, I agree with you, no way Lesnar can beat Fedor but I would not use the Hammer House as the basis of my comparison.

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    • Anthony Pole 7 months ago

      True, but Coleman is a good measuring stick to check out Lesnar I feel:

      -Both are NCAA Champions

      -Both bench about 500lbs

      -Both are free-stylers with nearly identical MMA style (hammer fists, shoots etc)

      -Coleman was at his prime for the 1st Fedor fight.

      -Mir-Lesnar and Fedor-Coleman 1 were nearly a carbon copy of each other: The wrestler dominated, and suddenly got subbed in a couple of minutes of round 1 out of nowhere by the supreme master of ground fighting.

      -Both lack sub defense.

      Finally, Coleman is smaller, but is a better wrestler (World Champion, Olympian), and has more MMA experience, and faced better opposition etc

      I just feel it gives us an idea of how Fedor deals with a Brock-type fighter -someone who reminds us of Brock's style of fighting.

      you know what I mean?

      (By the way, I think Brock would KILL Coleman now, but not at Coleman's prime. He was freakin scary)

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  15. D.Hub Jones 4 months ago

    All I gots to say is look out for my homeboy Tyronius Luweez, aka, Tyro the Pyro. My boy is sick. Working his way up and should be in the UFC next year. He's gonna change the sport ya betta believe it. GSP, Penn, doesn't matter. He will own the UFC in 2 years and every chump that steps into the ring wit him.

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