On Monday, January 7th, the LSU Tigers will take the field against the Ohio State Buckeyes in the BCS Championship Game. However, I believe that the LSU Tigers did NOT earn their way into the National Championship game.
Although my opinion may be biased because I'm a fan of the Kansas Jayhawks, I honestly think that KU SHOULD be playing Ohio State for all the marbles.
Here's why:
The Kansas Jayhawks started the season with an 11-0 record, and only lost ONE game during the ENTIRE 2007 College Football season.
Kansas' ONLY loss came against the Missouri Tigers, who finished the 2007 season with a 12-2 record. However, the Jayhawks won the rest of their games, and finished the 2007 season with a 12-1 record, topping it off with an Orange Bowl victory over Virginia Tech.
What's more, Kansas won seven of their games by AT LEAST 32 points. This means that the 2007 Kansas Jayhawks won MORE THAN HALF of their games by at least 32 points.
On the other hand, the LSU Tigers have TWO losses on the season. LSU lost BOTH games to teams who finished the 2007 season with 8-5 records. No, that's NOT a misprint—LSU lost to not one but TWO FIVE-loss teams.
In addition, one of LSU's losses was AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY, against the Arkansas Razorbacks, on the DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
The Arkansas Razorbacks are a bad team. They were BLOWN OUT by the aforementioned Missouri Tigers 38-7 on Tuesday in the Cotton Bowl.
What I've presented here are the FACTS. It's up to you, the reader, to decide for yourself if LSU really BELONGS in the BCS Championship Game.
BCS Championship: Why Kansas Should Be In, LSU Should Be Out
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6 months ago
Kansas has no business in the Orange Bowl, much less the BCS Championship game. KU lost to the only ranked team they played against, and won by less than a touchdown against mediocre teams in their division. You better hope that KU isn't embarrassed by VT before you whine for not playing in a bigger game.
from 6 months ago
But who's to say that LSU even BELONGS in the BCS National Championship Game??? LSU lost to not one but TWO FIVE-loss teams!!! By the way, I am still upset that Kansas QB Todd Reesing did NOT win the Heisman Trophy... but I think that it maybe a sign that Brett Favre will snatch his unprecedented 4th NFL MVP, from Tom Brady. (By the way, my next article will be a case for why Brett Favre will win his 4th NFL MVP!!!)
from 2 months ago
Looking back now at my article 4 months later... I just noticed that I NEVER got the opportunity to write an article about why Brett Favre should have won his 4th NFL MVP!!! The NFL MVP was awarded BEFORE I got the chance to write my article.
How ironic is it that in the 4 months since I wrote this article that Brett Favre (1) has retired and (2) is now on the cover of Madden '09???
6 months ago
Missouri is more deserving than Kansas, because their two losses came to the same team!
Under the same logic, why not just put Hawaii in the National Championship? They're 12-0!
from 6 months ago
Hawaii needed OT to beat La Tech on September 8. This tells me that Hawaii does NOT take good care of their own business. Any team that needs OT THAT EARLY in September... does NOT deserve to be in ANY National Championship Game consideration!
6 months ago
LSU is a humiliation, a sad joke of a team. I don't f***ing care WHO wins the "national championship", because it will be even more tainted than Yassir Arafat's Nobel Peace Prize. The Ohio Sucks F***eyes versus the Loser State Bengal Kittens... I think I'll catch up on my sleep or watch American Gladiators instead of that abortion.
from 6 months ago
what other teams are more deserving?
USC - Stanford
Georgia - didn't even win it's own division
Oklahoma - lost to Colorado, a team w/ a losing record
Ohio St. - LSU are the only reasonable choices.
Still wish there was a playoff, b/c the '06 LSU team peaked at the end of last season and would have likely run the table (in a playoff system).
from about 1 month ago
Tiguhs, you left out a VERY IMPORTANT detail under your "what other teams are more deserving?" heading.
The detail that you left out is:
LSU - lost to Arkansas, a SUCKY team.
With that said, Ohio State and Kansas are now the only reasonable choices :)
6 months ago
LSU won the SEC conf. Their two losses, both in triple overtime, were to two Bowl SEC teams.
If anybody doesn't deserve being in the title game, it's Ohio State. They play powder puffs Youngstown State, Akron, Kent State plus the weak big ten teams. Boycott all future Bowl games until we have a 16 team playoff like D2 and D3. Send a message to the University Presidents.
6 months ago
I think you said it best -- kU lost to Missouri, who blew Arkansas out of the water at the Cotton Bowl. Looks to me like Missouri deserved to be at a BCS (maybe not the national championship) Bowl way more than kU did. kU, as mentioned by a previous poster, only played one ranked team (Missouri), so of course they won by large margins the rest of the time. What was the margin in the Border War? 36-28, and I do believe the Jayhawks were shut out for the first half of the game. Let's remember that MU scored 30 or more points in almost every game they played this year. kU got their 32 points by keeping their first string in even after the game was decided -- makes you look better in rankings, but not with fans.
Jimson, your feathers are showing.
from 6 months ago
I don't know what game you were watching... but in the Kansas-Missouri game that I watched, Kansas almost WON the game. Had Todd Reesing not been sacked in the endzone... Kansas would have BEAT Missouri 35-34.
6 months ago
Jimson,
The bowl season is playing out just right for you. You desperately need a break from college football.
Geez, Jim. LSU played teams like Virginia Tech, Florida, Auburn, South Carolina, and Kentucky.
All of these teams were ranked at the time they played. Only South Carolina was not in the Top 10 at the time (12th).
It's opportunistic to point out that Kentucky ended up 8-5 for the season. But they were ranked #9 at the time they met LSU at home. And they were 6-0. Starting with the LSU game, KY has suffered a lot of injuries. They lost more games after that. But they BCS quality in the early part of the season.
They beat LSU in triple overtime.
Kansas has played one ranked team. Missouri. They lost to the Tigers.
Is it fair to compare high scoring games, if they came to the likes of Central Michigan, Southwest Louisiana, Florida International, and very poor Nebraska team and Iowa State teams?
How about the 6 pt game to Kansas State (Unranked), 5 point game to Colorado (Unranked), 8 pt game against Texas A&M (Unranked)?
"Had Todd Reesing not been sacked in the endzone... Kansas would have BEAT Missouri 35-34."
Had Arkansas not intercepted the 2 pt conversion in the endzone, LSU and Arkansas would have gone to the 4th overtime. Had Jones not missed the field goal in the triple overtime against KY, they would have gone into the 4th overtime. Had the big black bear not stopped to........
Jimson. Kansas did well, considering their schedule. I am not taking that away from them. You have reason to be proud. But they are not a BCS National Championship caliber team yet. Is LSU? The voter thought so, considering who they played and how the season played out. Is Missouri? Probably so. USC? Probably so. West Virginia? Maybe. Georgia? No. Kansas? No. Neither even got to their conference championship game.
from about 1 month ago
What are you talking about???
In my opinion, I believe that the 2007 Kansas Jayhawks WERE a BCS National Championship caliber team :)
6 months ago
Let make one other statement.
I am not one of those people who think that Ohio State is overrated. The fact that they've not really faced any competition does not mean they are not a quality football team. If either LSU or Ohio State wins this game, they will have deserved their title, whatever other bloggers spew out.
The BCS systems is badly flawed. But it's all we have. Lets all campaign for a playoff season. Until then, we have to accept whatever falls out of the BCS machine. If your team did not fall out, then they just were not good enough. Amen.
from 6 months ago
If Ohio State wins this game... then they will have deserved their title because Ohio State will have only ONE loss.
However, if LSU wins this game... then they will NOT have deserved their title because LSU will have TWO losses. Let's not forget, if Kansas beats Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl... the Kansas Jayhawks will have completed the season with only ONE loss. And last time I checked... I believe it is better to have a '1' attached to the end your record, than it is to have a '2' attached to the end your record.
6 months ago
You must be smoking’' crack, KU played one ranked team all season and lost. KU played 12 games this season and LSU, 13. If KU played a 13th against a ranked team they would be 11 & 2. LSU played ranked teams not second rate teams like KU did. LSU was ranked 1st or 2nd most of the season, never dropping below 5th. Hell, KU never made it higher than 5th. KU did not show up in the ranking until the 6th week and that was barely. Your argument might hold a little water if they were ranked 3rd, but they are not, Oklahoma is. KU is ranked 8th and you better be grateful they are ranked that high only playing one ranked team, which you lost. KU would get their ass kicked if they played LSU and KU definitely could not handle the Tigers in Death Valley. I pull for the Jay Hawks a lot, but they do not deserve to be playing in the BCS Championship game, stop whining and be grateful for what you got. KU would not stand a chance in the SEC.
from 6 months ago
Great argument... but there is a MAJOR flaw in it. You said that KU never made it higher than 5th... which is INCORRECT!!! KU was ranked in the BCS Top 4 for 3 straight weeks, making it up to #2... before the Jayhawks played Missouri.
6 months ago
I am from Missouri and a long time Tiger fan. Truth is though, Oklahoma deserved the National Title game as much as LSU or Ohio State. They are a very good team whose two losses came from a highly competitive Big 12 conference. They are certainly as deserving as KU. The resaon KU didn't have two losses is because they did not play the extra game that Mizzou played, against the aforementioned OU. The BCS is a big stinking joke of a system.
from 2 months ago
Did you see the Fiesta Bowl???
West Virginia CRUSHED Oklahoma 48-28.
6 months ago
You're wrong for 4 reasons....
1) Central Michigan
2) SE Louisiana
3) Toledo
4) Florida Int'l
In a year where KU knew it wasn't playing Texas or Oklahoma, that's it's nonconference schedule. Nice. You're no different than Hawaii.
You had one big game all year (finale against Missouri) and you lost. Nice record. Nice season. But stay at the kids table.
EVEN IF KANSAS WINS THE ORANGE BOWL, they didn't deserve to be there. Missouri won the Big12 North, only lost to one team this year (a very good Oklahoma), and beat Illinois and Mississippi AWAY FROM HOME to start the season.
from 6 months ago
Sorry Jimson, went to reply to your comment and accidentally deleted it. You cited Michigan and Bama slipping up... neither of those teams are even sniffing a BCS game. Kansas is in one. I agree with your analogy to the Wolverines and Tide... Kansas should be playing one of those teams, not VaTech.
from 2 months ago
Did YOU see the Orange Bowl???
Kansas BEAT Virginia Tech 24-21.
6 months ago
This is proof that there are still no intelligent life forms located in Lawrence. Delusional is an understatement. Touting the mighty Jayhawks lopsided wins over Florida International ( 1-11), Toledo (5-7) and Southeastern Louisiana (3-8) is hardly evidence that Kansas should be at any bowl. Kansas played none of the Big 12 South powerhouses and lost the only challenge they had in the North, and you think they should be in the championship game? I can only assume you were awarded a degree. Rock, Chalk.
from 2 months ago
Kansas is deserving to be in the BCS National Championship Game because they took good care of their own business... unlike LSU!!!
6 months ago
We need a playoff system to:
A) shut everyone up
B) separate the men from the boys
C) add some legitimacy to the BCS Championship game
D) gets some sleep around the holidays
E) ALL OF THE ABOVE
The answer of course is E. But unfortunately we will not see this in our lifetime due to excessive reliance on corporate sponsorship and the stranglehold the top conferences have on the major bowls.
Translation: there will be no changes until they devise a system that not only crowns an undisputed champion but also generates more revenue than the current system.
We have a better chance of starting a colony on Mars.
Until then....
The arguments will go on forever, I'm afraid.
Nobody's going to be right and nobody's going to be wrong.
from about 1 month ago
I couldn't agree more with your comment... This argument seems like it will go on forever!!!
6 months ago
I agree. Thankfully for KU, they didn't have to play Texas or OU this year. How good will you be next year? I went to the Cotton Bowl yesterday, what a blast! MU has shown what it can do, now can KU? Oh please, KU in no way is ready for the Natioanl Championship. Rock, chalk....whatever.
from 2 months ago
The Kansas Jayhawks showed what they could do... in their 24-21 victory over Virginia Tech, in the Orange Bowl.
In my opinion, the Kansas Jayhawks showed that they were ready for the National Championship!
6 months ago
No, the Jawhawks started 11-1. And don't give us that nonsense that we were getting ready to win but we just ran out of time. An "L" is a loss no matter what excuses you have. You will find no sympathy, nation wide sports fans and pundits were appalled by the Orange Bowl selection of Kansas over Missouri, believing it is just further evidence that the BCS is a very ugly and flawed system, kinda like Mangino wearing a speedo.
from 4 days ago
lol, I NEVER said that my Kansas Jayhawks were getting ready to win... but they just ran out of time :)
By the way, I agree with you when you say that... A LOSS IS A LOSS, NO MATTER what excuses one may have :)
6 months ago
Wow Jimson. Why won't you open your eyes and read what people have posted and accept the facts. How many times does someone have to tell you that KU lost their one lose to their ONLY ranked opponents. Your response to all of these posts and comments seems to be that KU had only one lose while other teams had two. Your argument is one dimensional. You are just looking at numbers. Nothing more. LSU's two loses where both in triple overtime. They didn't go down easy. If the BCS functioned as you do then Hawaii would be playing Dec. 7th. They had an undefeated season (until last night in the Sugar bowl). But they played nearly all cupcake teams. This is also how KU got their record, by playing mostly poor teams. LSU played a majority of ranked teams and lost only twice. So Jimson, if you reply to this, please give another point then KU lost only once. That is, if you can.
from 6 months ago
I know that both of LSU's losses were in triple overtime... But one of their losses came AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY, against the Arkansas Razorbacks. Arkansas sucks as bad as Donovan McNabb. (By the way, I am a Philadelphia Eagles fan... and although I hate to admit it, I really believe that it is best for the Eagles to get McNabb out of Philly!)
Yes, I saw the Arkansas Razorbacks play yesterday in the Cotton Bowl. For most of the game, Arkansas looked VERY UNCOMPETITIVE... and it showed on the scoreboard, as the Missouri Tigers CRUSHED the Arkansas Razorbacks 38-7... And yes, this is the SAME Arkansas Razorbacks who BEAT LSU 50-48, when Arkansas LAST took the field PRIOR TO THE COTTON BOWL!!!
6 months ago
Hmm...didn't the Big 12 have a championship game? And didn't Kansas not even earn the right to play in it?
I could've sworn that was the case...
I will give Kansas props on winning 11 games this year - I didn't even know they had a football team until this year. How long have they had one? Has it ever been relevant? If so, when? Does anyone else on earth care about Kansas football other than some twink named Jimson? If so, who?
from 6 months ago
The Kansas Jayhawks has had a football team since 1891... The 2007 season marked the 117th year of operation for the Kansas Jayhawks football team.
Yes, the Kansas Jayhawks football team was relevant... in 1899, when William McKinley, the 25th President of the United States of America, was in office.
Yes, there are people on the earth who care about Kansas football besides me... There are thousands (if not, millions) of people in Lawrence, Kansas... who care about Kansas football.
6 months ago
So... what is your point? What are you trying to prove now? That LSU lost by a failed two-point conversion in triple overtime to the team that lost to the team who beat KU? That would hold ground IF KU played good teams. Teams like LSU had to play. Teams like Florida, Auburn, Va Tech, and Alabama. NOT teams like Baylor, Iowa State, Toledo, and Nebraska. And why does it matter that LSU lost at home one senior day. Does senior day somehow improve a teams skills giving them an advantage?
from 6 months ago
Losing AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY, only shows me that LSU LACKS a SENSE OF URGENCY!!! Knowing it would be the senior class's FINAL game at their HOME stadium... the LSU Tigers still managed to find a way to lose to a sucky Arkansas team!!!
6 months ago
Jimson:
If I was Donovan McNabb, I would lose games on purpose because you crybaby dickhead Philly fans cant appreciate SHIT. Who was your quarterback before him? Oh and you were makin the playoffs every season right?
Uh, nope. He single-handedly turned the franchise around, and all he gets is bullshit like that from you assholes.
You booed him when you drafted him, then he gets you to three straight NFC championship games and you start expecting Super Bowl wins every year after that. Gimme a break. He plays through injuries and he's REALLY good. Give him some receivers!!
And oh yeah by the way, this Kansas article... wow... I aint even gonna waste any time in my awesome hot life picking it apart.
6 months ago
Kansas does not deserve to be in the NC Title game. It doesn't matter that LSU lost one more game than KU. LSU has played much better competition. They've beaten alot of good quality teams. KU only played one top 25 team all year long and they lost that one. KU didn't even win the Big12. They didn't even make it to the Big12 Championship game. So how is KU deserving to be in the NC game?
from 2 months ago
Kansas is deserving to be in the BCS National Championship Game because they took good care of their own business... unlike LSU!!!
6 months ago
Kansas is in the Orange. Congrats on that. But bargaining for more than an Orange Bowl berth is like Randy Moss complaining that he doesn't get thrown too enough. Or like Wilt Chamberlain trying to pick up woman number 20,001. Or like Barry Bonds going on one more additional cycle of HGH or "the clear". You get my point... Let it go, and be happy of Kansas' remarkable and historic season. Congrats to Mangino and the gang.
from about 1 month ago
What are you talking about???
This is like FAR off topic :)
6 months ago
And Arkansas had nothing to play for in the game against Mizz. Arkansas had in interim coach. If you took the time to look you would see that interim coaches in bowl games does not work. They are 0-5 so far. Probably will be 0-6 after the OU WV game tonight. Mizz should have been in a BCS game instead of your KU team. This was a huge mismatch. Arky didn't want to be in this game. McFadden didn't want to be in this game. They had nothing to play for. This bowl season is probably the worst matches I've ever seen. Mizz got held out of the BCS. But teams like Hawaii and Illinois made it to the BCS against teams that they didn't have a chance of beating. But anyways, KU is only the 3rd or 4th best team in the confernce in my opinion. I think Texas would beat KU.
You better hope your KU team beats VT tonight b/c LSU beat them 48-7. I've got VT picked to win this game. But even if KU wins they wont beat them as bad as LSU beat them.
from 6 months ago
If Virginia Tech plays like they did against LSU... then the Kansas Jayhawks will have the opportunity to beat Virginia Tech very badly.
All season long, the 2007 Kansas Jayhawks have taken the Bill Belichick approach: "If you have a good team, and have the opportunity to do so... then run up the score against your opponent!"
If Kansas is given the opportunity to run up the score against VT, Kansas can, and WILL, do so.
The question is NOT WHO will win the game... because I think that Kansas WILL WIN the game. But the better question is: What will be the margin of victory??? Will it be a close game decided by less than 15 points??? Or a blowout by at least 30 points???
from 6 months ago
Jimson, it's possible that Kansas can run up the score if VT plays like they did against LSU—I'll give you that. But, I think that you are overhyping your Jayhawks and underhyping the Hokies.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that you didn't watch the Sugar Bowl or Rose Bowl yesterday? Two teams who clearly didn't belong got blown out of the water. Now, I'm not saying which one of these Orange Bowl teams shouldn't belong—I'll leave that up to you to decide. I would, however, like to hear your opinions after the game...whatever the result might be. KU win or loss...I'm afraid that you'll be dissapointed, because there's a really small chance that they blowout VT. Just my thoughts.
-R.H.
6 months ago
You poor fool. Using capital letters and multiple exclamation points do not make your comments any more stupid than they already are. LSU lacks a sense of urgency because they lost on senior day? What kind of drivel is that? Sounds like a Pop Warner speech. And that "sucky Arkansas" team just happened to have a two time Heisman runner up in the backfield, a caliber of player I don't see hanging out in Lawrence. But go ahead and keep displaying to the world what KU fans are really like. Rock, Chalk. Go Hokies.
from 6 months ago
Kansas has a Heisman-caliber player... in Todd Reesing. I'm still annoyed that Reesing did NOT win the Heisman.
Tim Tebow should NOT even won the Heisman Trophy in the first place... His team, the Florida Gators, lost 4 games this season... And yesterday, the Florida Gators LOST to the Michigan Wolverines in the Capital One Bowl, 41-35. This is the SAME Michigan Wolverines team who LOST to Appalachian State, earlier in the season.
In his FIRST year as a starter, Todd Reesing WON his FIRST 11 games of the season... and has a chance to win his 12th game tomorrow night in the Orange Bowl against Virginia Tech. (That is 2 MORE games than Tebow won the ENTIRE season... and that could be 3 by the end of tomorrow night!)
If Oklahoma beats West Virginia tonight in the Fiesta Bowl... then Todd Reesing and the Kansas Jayhawks would have the opportunity to make HISTORY... by beating Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl. This would mark the first time that 3 different teams from the SAME Conference won AT LEAST 12 games in the SAME season.
from 6 months ago
You poor boy. It doesn't matter that Florida lost 4 games. The Heisman award goes to the best college football player. It doen't go to the good player that is on a team with a better record. So your arguments about Reesing having a better record are irrelevant making your whole argument about him winning the Heisman senseless. Tebow also played against tougher opponents.
6 months ago
Hmm, last I checked the top Heisman vote getters were Tebow, McFadden, Brennan, Daniel, Dixon, White, Ryan, Bradford, Crabtree, Dorsey and Smith. The name Reesing is missing from that list. Just like your other specious argument for Kansas being in the Championship it displays your ignorance of college football. Basically if KU is not the greatest team of all time and its players the best that ever graced the gridiron, then we are all wrong. Keep it up. Rock, Chalk. Go Hokies. Smash Kansas.
6 months ago
Your arguments lack any true depth Jimson, they sound like the pathetic rambligs of a ten year old. You are clearly wearing Jayhawk glasses.
KU didn't make their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!!! That makes them out of contention. The team played underrated competition all year, then choked against the one team that mattered (MIZZOU)
So KU end the year with one loss, big deal, so did Hawaii. I don't see anyone making a case for them to be national champs.
LSU and Ohio St. have every right to be in the game. They lost at the right time, and one at the right time. Deal with it fanboy
If the LSU team that killed VaTech had stayed healthy, they would be undefeated, PERIOD
from 2 months ago
"LSU and Ohio St. have every right to be in the game. They lost at the right time, and one at the right time. Deal with it fanboy
If the LSU team that killed VaTech had stayed healthy, they would be undefeated, PERIOD"
Last time I checked... There was NO SUCH THING as losing at the right time. That being said, LSU had NO right to be in the BCS National Championship Game... because they lost TWO games during the 2007 season. In fact, BOTH of LSU's losses came against FIVE-loss teams!
6 months ago
I'm NOT a ten-year old... So COME AFTER ME!!! I'm A MAN!!! I'm 19!!!
from 6 months ago
I'd probably put Mike Gundy a few steps higher than you in the sanity department.
Take his advise and GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!
from 2 months ago
I DID GET MY FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
6 months ago
Ahh, that explains it, a sophomore indeed. No doubt a 4.0 student at KU too. Rock, chalk. Go Hokies, choke the Jawhawks.
6 months ago
First of all, LSU defenders, shut UP already about how their losses were in triple overtime. A loss is a loss, and making excuses for them doesn't change that. I don't care if you "almost" won. That being said, Kansas deserves to be nowhere near the NC game because of their schedule strength. They beat so many ranked teams this year, that people feel their resume allows them to leapfrog a team with 1 less loss. Answer me this, Jimson: you seem to want to throw strength of schedule out the window. Yet if we followed your logic of putting in the teams with the fewest losses, wouldn't it end up being Hawaii vs. Ohio State, with Kansas still on the outside looking in?
Regarding Reesing, the fact remains that he was considered a legitimate Heisman contender heading into the border war, and then threw away his chances with an abysmal 3 quarters. I am aware that Kansas made a comeback attempt, but they had to come from so far back, and couldn't seal the deal. If you look at the stats for that game, it is clear that Chase Daniel vastly outplayed Todd Reesing over the course of the entire game, and secured victory for his team on top of it. Ultimately, Reesing choked in his only major challenge of the year. Making excuses for the loss makes you no better than LSU fans and their mindless drivel about triple overtimes
And Jimson, for the love of god, please stop capitalizing half the words in your sentences. It doesn't make you sound smarter.
from 6 months ago
No one here is making excuses for the OT losses. I'm as mad as anyone that LSU dropped two. But I don't think that should eliminate them from title talk. The team won their Conference Championship game, and played stiff competition all season. They should be there.
If anything Ohio State should not be there. There schedule was weaker than KU's. I would have put USC in the game over OSU. Then maybe all the talk of the Trojans' "mythical" 2003 championship could be laid to rest
from 5 months ago
I still think that the TWO losses SHOULD eliminate LSU from ANY title talk!!!
In fact, I think that there should be a new rule that FORCES the BCS to ELIMINATE ALL 2-loss teams from BCS National Championship Game CONTENTION!!!
6 months ago
"That being said, Kansas deserves to be nowhere near the NC game because of their schedule strength. They beat so many ranked teams this year, that people feel their resume allows them to leapfrog a team with 1 less loss."
Sorry, funny wording there. "They" at the beginning of the 2nd sentence obviously is intended to mean LSU, not Kansas
from 6 months ago
I don't really think that strength of schedule is that important... If a team CANNOT take good care of their own business, then they don't BELONG in ANY National Championship Game talk... regardless of that team's schedule strength!
from 6 months ago
Anyone who thinks strength of schedule is not important in college football has no business giving their opinion about anything relevant to the sport. You haven't used any kind of logic to anything you've said so far in these post.
from 6 months ago
Is strength of schedule THAT important in the NFL??? NO, I don't think so!!!
So then why SHOULD strength of schedule be SO important in College Football???
from 6 months ago
Because there are teams like Hawaii and Kansas that don't play anyone—that's why SOS is important. Plus, in the NFL there are only 32 teams. College has 119. With those numbers, you can dodge solid opponents in college...you can't in the NFL. Plus, the NFL makes the schedules. The Universities make their own out of conference schedules.
In truth, there are so many arguments against you thinking that SOS shouldnt matter...but, these were just a few.
6 months ago
LSU would be undefeated w/ Kansas' schedule, you're crazy!
completely random:
USC only beat 3 teams w/ winning records lolz
from 2 months ago
It does NOT matter if LSU would have been undefeated with Kansas' schedule... because LSU did NOT play Kansas' schedule.
LSU had their own schedule... and lost TWO games on it!!!
6 months ago
Don't you just love the picture of Reesing leaving the field at Arrowhead after the safety? He has a chunk of turf the size of a cat stuck in his face guard. I get a Mangino belly laugh every time I see it.
6 months ago
i agree with the position that the Jayhawks are in right now. The jayhawks have only played one team that is receiving votes in the top 25 and that is mizzou who the jayhawks have lost to. LSU has played in the top all season and the lowest it was ever ranked on the BCS poll was 7th along with a two week stay at number one. Even if the Tigers did lose to two teams with an 8-5 overall record, the SEC is the dominant conference with a 6-2 bowl season record with Georgia stomping Hawaii. Since they were undefeated they should be in the same position as the Jayhawks right?
Resolution- LSU plays in the National Championship game and LSU's 2nd string plays in Kansas's spot in the Orange bowl.
from 6 months ago
In my opinion... losing to ONE FIVE-loss team SHOULD be ENOUGH to be ELIMINATE a team from National Championship CONTENTION!!!
But an LSU team losing to TWO FIVE-loss teams... and STILL getting into the BCS National Championship Game??? That is DISGUSTING!!!
from 6 months ago
if the jayhawks played a schedule that was worth two cents and still had just one loss they might should have a chance to be in the National championship game but that isnt what has happened. The jayhawks should never even have the chance to play in the orange bowl because it is the equivalent of a A varsity football team that has only played JV teams all season. It is not a fair judgement to put Kansas in and it also proves that if you lose late in the season it does the most damage because mizzou should be above kansas in the bowl selection
from 6 months ago
But LSU also lost late in the season... AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY, to a sucky Arkansas team. Yet, the LSU Tigers are STILL in the BCS National Championship Game!
from 6 months ago
even so i dont see how that helps your argument unless what your saying is that kansas deserves to go because another team that is better lost
from about 1 month ago
Yes, I am saying that Kansas deserves to be in the BCS National Championship Game... because LSU LOST to a SUCKY Arkansas team, AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY :)
6 months ago
And KU couldn't "take care of business" against Missouri, therefore, they are out!
from about 1 month ago
LSU could NOT take care of business against a SUCKY Arkansas team, AT HOME on SENIOR DAY... Therefore, LSU SHOULD be out :)
6 months ago
change that jayhawks beat mizzou
from 6 months ago
In basketball? golf? what? Surely not football
from 6 months ago
In basketball? golf? what? Surely not football
6 months ago
no they didnt you lunatic
6 months ago
Jimson, strength of schedule doesn't matter all that much in the NFL because:
1) the schedules are standardized by the league, so everyone's schedule is going to wind up being fairly similar
2) they have a playoff, so anyone with Super Bowl aspirations has to prove themselves against the best.
In CFB, you get to choose who you play, plus the conferences are not created equal. If a team decides to go schedule an OOC game against an Ohio State or a USC or a Va Tech, they should be rewarded if they take on the challenge and win the game. Teams should not, and are not, given as much credit for beating an FCS or Div II school. It's very easy to see that these wins are not at all equal.
Second, the NFL has a playoff, so even if one team happens to play an easier schedule, they still must prove their worth in head to head matchups with other top teams. In CFB, we have to make do with what information we have, without the benefit of a head to head. WHO a team is beating is as important as how many games they won.
Now that you are on record as saying strength of schedule is not important, please answer my earlier question: by your criteria, shouldn't Hawaii be playing Ohio State for the national championship?
And I like how you replied to my comment of... "And Jimson, for the love of god, please stop capitalizing half the words in your sentences. It doesn't make you sound smarter."... by capitalizing half the words in your reply. Get a clue, man.
from 6 months ago
NO, Hawaii should NOT be playing Ohio State in the National Championship... because Hawaii did NOT take good care of their own business against La Tech on SEPTEMBER 8!!! They needed OT to beat La Tech... That is WAY TOO EARLY in the season to not be taking good care of your own business!!! Any team that needs OT THAT EARLY in the season, does NOT deserve to be in ANY National Championship consideration!!!
from 6 months ago
You're a sick man, Jimbo.
But you've had your literary flash.
Have a seat and watch the BCS National Champions slug it out Monday.
6 months ago
Is strength of schedule THAT important in the NFL??? NO, I don't think so!!!
So then why SHOULD strength of schedule be SO important in College Football???
Are you really that stupid? There are no Florida Internationals in the NFL, and unlike College football, the Pros actually have a playoff system, which by the way would be an absolute disaster for the likes of KU since they could not even get into a conference championship.
from 6 months ago
But there was a Florida International in the NFL this season: the Miami Dolphins (who won just as many games as Florida International)!!!
from 6 months ago
just because a team blew this yea does not mean that they are a florida international. It is a professional team composed of professional players. you are obviously just googling everything you write as well as using 8th grade arguements in every post which makes you sound that much more pathetic
6 months ago
go buckyes
6 months ago
How can you claim that Georgia is not deserving this year but that LSU would have been deserving last year? Neither won their division!! Even if there were playoffs (not going to happen because the BCS is about making money, not determining a champion), LSU probably would've lost to Florida again in the semifinals anyway.
6 months ago
Jimson are you a robot that is preprogrammed to say certain phrases? You are not bringing anything new to the table. All you say is teams can't "take care of their business." Try a different string of words to convey your argument, weak as it is.
from about 1 month ago
No, I am NOT a robot that is preprogrammed to say certain phrases :)
6 months ago
Wait wait wait. Jimson. Seriously man.
-Senior day doesn't matter—that has nothing to do with anything.
-Hawaii "took care of business" when the beat LaTech, OT or no OT—it's the rules of the game.
-SOS does matter in college football as everyone has already stated.
-And if you remember, Kansas actually somehow got the nod over Missouri for the Orange Bowl bid. Be happy for that man. In my mind, KU caught a break there.
KU might win tomorrow...who knows? But regardless...y'all should be happy that you somehow got picked by the Orange Bowl committee. It's a lot more money going to your school than Missouri got for their Cotton Bowl berth.
11-1=good season (best season in school history). Let. It. Go.
from about 1 month ago
"-Senior day doesn't matter—that has nothing to do with anything.
-Hawaii "took care of business" when the beat LaTech, OT or no OT—it's the rules of the game."
You basically contradicted yourself by making these two statements :)
from about 1 month ago
Seriously, you CANNOT defend a team who LOST AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY... and then decide to defend a team who NEEDED OT to beat Louisiana Tech, on SEPTEMBER 8th.
You CAN EITHER defend the team who LOST AT HOME, on SENIOR DAY, or you can defend the team who NEEDED OT to beat Louisiana Tech, on SEPTEMBER 8th... BUT you CANNOT defend BOTH :)
6 months ago
Jimson, are you shitting me? How is winning a game not considered taking care of your own business? Hawaii obviously has no right to be playing in the NC game, I'm not arguing that. But I am trying to show you the natural conclusion of your own logic. That game was ugly, yes, but it was a win. Period. By your OWN logic, Hawaii is more deserving than Kansas because of the number of losses. I can't believe you're trying to argue that losing to Missouri is somehow "taking care of your own business" better than an OT win against LA tech.
from 6 months ago
What I'm saying is that Kansas' loss to Missouri is MUCH LATER in the season than Hawaii's OT win against LA Tech!!!
from 6 months ago
1)being later in the season actually hurts you with the polls...it's always been that way.
2)the key words in your comment were "loss" and "win"
Face it Jimson, Kansas is in the same boat as Hawaii. Each should be proud of what they accomplished, but neither has room to argue for a title shot, plain and simple. Now, where Kansas does differ from Hawaii is that the have an opportunity to win their game. Like I've been saying...be happy they even got an invite to the Orange. Missouri got snubbed, yall are the benefactors. Take advantage of it rather than complaining.
6 months ago
And the heisman award doesnt matter who has the better record, Notre Dame's qb won one year and they only won like 2 games, and reesing sucks, i wanna see him throw against competition, and i feel the same way about brennan, he broke all these records, but hes being playing middle school teams all year, thats not hard, shit i cant throw 15 yds, but put me in the wac conference and im sure ill break at least some records
6 months ago
Jinson, if Kansas lost to Missouri, why is Kansas in the Orange Bowl?
from 6 months ago
Did YOU see the Orange Bowl???
Kansas BEAT Virginia Tech 24-21.
6 months ago
OK Jimson, first of all, STOP using CAPS every OTHER word. THAT'S annoying.
Now, KU has no right to be playing in the Title game. Here's why:
Opponents with winning Records - Central Michigan, Texas A&M, OK St. (only thanks to a bowl game), and Missouri.
Opponents with .500 or lower records - Everyone Else!
LSU Opponents with Winning Records - Mississippi State, VA Tech, Florida, Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee.
Why did KU go 11-1? Why did Hawaii go 12-0? Weak schedule. What happened when KU played a good, ranked team? They got beat. What happened when undefeated Hawaii played an incredible UGA team? They got destroyed. Everyone knew Hawaii was going to lose that game, just like everyone knows that if KU was to play anyone in the top tier bowl games, they would get beaten. Either of the top 2 teams would beat KU, actually I think anyone in the top 10, excluding Hawaii, would be KU. LSU lost 2 games, both in triple overtime. They are much more deserving to play in the Title game than is KU.
from 6 months ago
Would beat KU...not be KU
from about 1 month ago
Please do NOT put my Kansas Jayhawks in the same boat as Hawaii... These two teams have NOTHING IN COMMON!!!
Kansas plays their home games in the HEARTLAND of the country... while Hawaii does NOT even play their home games on the MAINLAND!!! In addition, Kansas plays in the Big 12, which is a BCS Conference... while Hawaii plays in the WAC, which is NOT a BCS Conference :)
6 months ago
why is losing later in the season a good thing? wtf? and you still haven't explained why winning in OT is such a terrible crime
from 6 months ago
Winning in OT is NOT a terrible crime... It's just that Hawaii did it on SEPTEMBER 8th, which is WAY TOO EARLY in the season.
That just shows me that Hawaii had a BAD ATTITUDE!!!
6 months ago
All I can say is, we won enough games and Kansas didn't. Geaux Tigers!
6 months ago
You said, "If a team CANNOT take good care of their own business, then they don't BELONG in ANY National Championship Game"
I say, MU 36 - KU 28
Nuff said.
from 4 days ago
You know what:
I say, Arkansas 50 - LSU 48
Enough said :)
6 months ago
"Winning in OT is NOT a terrible crime... It's just that Hawaii did it on SEPTEMBER 8th, which is WAY TOO EARLY in the season.
That just shows me that Hawaii had a BAD ATTITUDE!!!"
This logic makes absolutely no sense to me. Every voter on the face of the earth values late season games as much or more than early season games, because these are generally more indicative of a team's current strength heading into bowl season
So please explain, how is an OT win on September 8th is worse than LOSING your last and most important game of the season? I still have yet to hear a good explanation from you on this
from 6 months ago
An OT win on SEPTEMBER 8th is a telling sign that a team has a VERY BAD ATTITUDE!!! That is WAY TOO EARLY in the season to be needing OT!!!
I feel that this is WORSE than losing your last game of the season because the schedule is MUCH EASIER at the beginning of the season than it is at the end of the season!!!
6 months ago
You qualify as a true idiot. Congrats KU sophomore.
from 29 days ago
Actually, I do NOT go to KU... In fact, I am a Mathematics/Computer Science DOUBLE major, at Burlington County College, in New Jersey.
By the way, I will be entering my junior year of college at Burlington County College, in the Fall of 2008 :)
6 months ago
KANSAS FOOTBALL
A TRADITION . . . SINCE SEPTEMBER 2007
from 2 months ago
LSU FOOTBALL
A TRADITION . . . SINCE AUGUST 2003
6 months ago
"An OT win on SEPTEMBER 8th is a telling sign that a team has a VERY BAD ATTITUDE!!! That is WAY TOO EARLY in the season to be needing OT!!!
I feel that this is WORSE than losing your last game of the season because the schedule is MUCH EASIER at the beginning of the season than it is at the end of the season!!!"
Are you serious? Please read this again and ask yourself if it really makes half an ounce of sense. Apparently they had enough attitude to overcome a 3-touchdown deficit against Washington.
And that thing about schedule being easier in September might apply to Kansas with their titanic nonconference games against Florida International and SE Louisiana. LA Tech was a conference game for Hawaii, buddy. I thought you said schedule strength didn't matter anyway
from 6 months ago
On the same day that Hawaii needed OT to beat La Tech...
Kansas CRUSHED Southeastern Louisiana 62-0.
6 months ago
Jimson, YOUR AN IDIOT!!! Everyone on here disagrees with you. Along with all the sports analysts who live and breathe this stuff. You have a one track mind and think that how many losses you have means everything.
Jimson, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone reading your thoughts is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
6 months ago
"On the same day that Hawaii needed OT to beat La Tech...
Kansas CRUSHED Southeastern Louisiana 62-0."
Southeastern Louisiana finished 7th in the Southland Conference this year. Nobody except you is even remotely impressed by that win. A game like that is pathetic and shouldn't be anywhere near a BCS team's schedule. Meanwhile, Hawaii was playing a conference game. End of discussion.
from 6 months ago
I don't know about you... but I still think that a 62-0 victory over Southeastern Louisiana is MORE IMPRESSIVE that a 45-44 victory over La Tech in OT!!!
from 6 months ago
the word after "IMPRESSIVE" should read "than"... rather than "that"!!! Sorry for the funny wording.
6 months ago
Southeastern Louisiana restarted its football program like 5 years ago and play in the Southland Conference of the FCS (formerly I-AA). My flag football team played SLU and we beat them 77-0. We should be in the BCS Title game with your logic.
from 2 months ago
It's too bad that your flag football team is INELIGIBLE to play for the BCS National Championship Game... because your flag football team is does NOT play in the FBS :)
6 months ago
"I don't know about you... but I still think that a 62-0 victory over Southeastern Louisiana is MORE IMPRESSIVE that a 45-44 victory over La Tech in OT!!!"
I'm sure it is. But losing to Missouri isn't. Good job
from 6 months ago
But don't you think that SEPTEMBER 8th is WAY TOO EARLY in the season to need OT to beat La Tech???
6 months ago
"But don't you think that SEPTEMBER 8th is WAY TOO EARLY in the season to need OT to beat La Tech???"
To put it bluntly, no. I do not. As every pollster on the face of the earth knows, early season games are the least indicative of a team's performance at the end. I assume the point of your statement is that
teams generally have their weaker nonconference games near the beginning of the schedule (which incidentally, directly contradicts your other claim that you don't care about schedule strength). As I have stated before, LA Tech was a conference game for Hawaii. The W is the only thing that matters. I could give a shit if the game went into overtime.
Pollsters judge national championship contenders based on they handle their major tests. Hawaii won their biggest game of the regular season against Boise. Kansas couldn't handle Missouri. End of story
The fact that you're forced into such lame arguments to try to prove that Kansas is more worthy than Hawaii proves that Kansas shouldn't be in the title game. Hawaii is obviously several rungs below some of the other contenders, as evidenced by Tuesday's game
6 months ago
LSU won enough games. OU did as well. All the others could have used more victories. All the whining in the world ain't gonna change the BCS matchup. Geaux Tigers.
from 6 months ago
Last night, the Kansas Jayhawks proved WHY they BELONG in the BCS National Championship Game... by beating the Virginia Tech Hokies 24-21, in the Orange Bowl!
6 months ago
There's still time, Jimfag. See if you can get KU into the title game on Monday.
And please never write another article ever again. I can't handle the stupidity.
6 months ago
If Kansas had won enough games they would be there instead of LSU or OSU. You've just got to try to understand that. Your team has to win MORE games. It's that simple.
6 months ago
Any more comments mrs. anonymous? Or did KU just shut your pie hole?
Read Jimson's facts, get back to us, umkay. KU deserves everything they worked so hard for this year. Guarantee this - KU proved it in the second half of that Missouri game, add a quarter and they win. If they play again, make no mistake, KU knows what they did right and wrong, and would just cremate Missouri the second time. They just beat the #3 ranked team in the nation (#2 by some), that puts them at #2 or possibly split #1 correct?
Stop listening to the hype that ESPN and other network commentators are spraying. This was sweet justice for KU as they were ignored by these naysayers. Try as they like to do (instead of being reporters), they cannot shove Missouri and Chase Daniels down my throat. They can't shove 2 loss team vying for a national championship, nor a QB for Hiesman that was on a 4-loss team. See where I'm getting? They simply don't know what they think they know. Is this your current condition too?
At least the BCS didn't blacklist KU, which is more imporatnt anyway than the marketing spinsters at ESPN and the like. They ended up getting their chance, and lordy they certainly proved it. Now shut up and sitdown.
6 months ago
I couldn't agree more with your comments. And those of Jimson's.
6 months ago
wow what a conspiracy. Here's another angle..... Win more games
Geaux Tigers
6 months ago
How flipped can you possibly get? I guess they were right when they coined the term 'ignorance is bliss'. Take your charity and go away Joe. Looks like that's the type of thing that satisfies you, as opposed to hard fought deserved satisfaction.
And the SEC ain't all hat and a bag of chips. That's sort commetator marketing. LSU is far removed from actually deserving to be in this game. I akin this assigment to a popularity contest, just like a 4-loss team at Florida that has the severely ESPN-hyped QB Tim Tebow as the Hiesman - just plain wrong.
Jimson's facts are good. But there is more - what about the really tight wins they got (2 of them were just plain lucky, much like Les Miles). Fact is they were not a dominant team, at least not even close enough to be in the national championship game.
from 2 months ago