Oakland Raiders Eliminated from Playoffs on First Day of NFL Training Camp

As the Raiders spend a large part of their over-priced paychecks on gas money to get to training camp, the rest of the NFL breaths a sigh of relief that ESPN won't be wasting any time in Oakland. Jon Grilz reports.

by Jon Grilz (Senior Writer)

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July 24, 2008

As players from around the league filter in to their respective training camps, the Oakland Raiders have been mathematically eliminated from playoff contention in 2008.

Early hopes by both players and fans would be that the San Diego Chargers, Denver Broncos, and Kansas City Chiefs would elect to sit out the season. Unfortunately, as enough players on each team have checked in to make a starting lineup, the chances that Oakland would make the playoffs have faded to nothing.

Reports are that both Vegas and Atlantic City oddsmakers have made an unprecedented prediction regarding the likelihood that the Raiders would have any semblance of success this season.

For the first time in history, the line for Raiders to make the playoffs is "the infinite symbol" to one. A bet of $1 will result in unlimited money forever. So far, there have been no takers.

This is partially due to a lack of faith in Oakland's coaching staff and players, and partially due to true Oakland fans having gone into debt spending their last dollar on Pabst Blue Ribbon and cheap pieces of red meat to tailgate with. Not to mention the black and silver face paint by which they hide the pain that is the rest of their lives.

Oddsmakers are also predicting a 2-14 regular season, with wins coming over the Atlanta Falcons and Miami Dolphins, by, more likely than not, a score of 3-0 or 6-3.

Only the most die-hard and frightening of Raiders fans still hold out hope that the glory days of the John Madden era will be revisited. However, much like Madden, this season is more likely to become a string of completely incomprehensible stupidity that may only be rivaled by the idea that Brett Favre will actually end up with the Minnesota Vikings.

Many analysts believe that only one thing could make this season any bleaker for the black and silver: Daunte Culpepper.

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reply to comment by Vinny
about 1 month ago

I dont see Oakland making the playoffs either but you could make an arguement, and they definitley will have more than 2 wins. They drafted and explosive RB in McFadded, and if he doesnt work, they have a proven RB in Fargas. with the new additions of Gibril Wilson and DeAngelo Hall, along with Nnamdi, they have a pretty good secodnary. there are questions at QB thouhg, which could be a big problem. Im thinking something like 6-10 or 7-9.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I'd still be willing to put a dollar on their playoff hopes, if for nothing other than the possible return.
2. by greg
  from about 1 month ago
  
  how can a team go 2-16? if there are only 16 games... smart Jon very smart
3. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Oh my god, there are only 16 games in a year? What do we pay these people for?
4. by BabyTate
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I like the Tom Flores days, 2 NFL Titles in 4 seasons, '80 & '83.
  
  Sure we're gonna turn it around this year. That's not frightening, that's optimism. You gotta believe!
reply to comment by CODY
about 1 month ago

John Gritz what the hell are you smoking? What ever it is it must be some really good stuff! 2-16 come on get real, obviously you are hater. At the very worst the Raiders will break even at 8-8.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  the same stuff you were when you tried to spell my name. or at least when you thought it was an insult to spell it that way. what, are you a telecommuter?
reply to comment by Joey
about 1 month ago

Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!! I about pissed myself while reading that!!!!! Jon has been hanging out with Ricky Williams too much. Anyway, the Raiders despite their record last year showed marked improvement in many areas. Unfortunately the QB spot cost them about 3-5 games. Being a Raider fan I can only hope that Russell will try to play smart, boring, patient football, learn the value of throwing it away to avoid a sack and learn not to fumble when he gets hit..................because he will get hit alot. If he does that, the Raiders sneak in @ 10-6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Thanks, I suppose if anyone in the NFL new how to party harder than Pac-Man, it would be Ricky.
reply to comment by Mike
about 1 month ago

Ah the Haters. They never cease to amaze me. Nation, Dont waste your time with this lame.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Wow, do you really think that the nation is reading this? I'm honored.
2. by Alan
  from about 1 month ago
  
  ahaha brilliant answer jon
reply to comment by MR.
about 1 month ago

na, fukk that We will defently hit the playoffs the raiders have spent all this money iN the off season they had problems in the past years in or o line and on D the old man Mr. Davis in his senile old ass, BUT remember he has been right before. and hopefully just given these 2nd timers in Dhall, Jwalker and the list of kids they have brought up and the kind of money he has spent on all these kids im thinking playoff contender and damn good games with san deigo and we will defently beat the hell out of the donkeys and lets see at the end of the saeson we can take out new england so i will defently be putting my money on the raiders in 08 we go over 700
RAIDER NATION YOU GOT TO BLEED SILVER AND BLACK !!!!!!!!!
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Sorry, I didn't understand any of that.
reply to comment by pure-sol
about 1 month ago

The funniest part of this article is the delusional comments.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Really? I thought the Culpepper crack was pretty good.
reply to comment by thehomeboykey
about 1 month ago

this shit was funny... need i say more! I don't see playoff contention but i do see a younger more exciting team over the next couple of seasons!
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  You never know, it took the Vikings 9 years before they looked ready to make another playoff run just to be shut down in the championship game.
reply to comment by yo
about 1 month ago

hmmmm.... I seem to recall a few teams that came out of no where to win it all the following season, i.e. rams , pats.. of recent, so hope is there. there been many moves made to upgrade the raiders d', but to predict a 2 win season??? Come on!!! Tom Cable is working wonders with that o-line, which by the way was 6th in the league last year. They obviously get a upgrade at rb with McFadden, solidified the secondary with Hall and Wilson acquisitions, and arguably the best cornerback tandem in the league. Sure Almighty Al is desperate money spending spree mode, but changes need to be made. there were signs of improvement last year and if your argument is the coaching staff... well look at the men Almighty Al has hired and fired, one thing about al is he knows how to pick the up and coming coaches, i.e, gruden , shannahan, So as far as Vegas goes.... U keep watching the betting line and I'll keep watching football
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Are you really comparing the Oakland Raiders with the New England Patriots? If so, why haven't I seen you at any of Ricky William's parties?
2. by Gern
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Al's problem is that he can't stop running off those coaches he hired. He ran off Shanahan (three rings since he left, 2 with Denver, one as an AC in San Fran), Gruden (1 ring, and now he's trying to piss off Kiffen. All is a doddering old idiot. Yeah he was great once, but 8-track tapes used to be the shit too.
reply to comment by Mark
about 1 month ago

Jon Grilz senior writer,Senior or senile?
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  A little of both. Hey, let's see how well you write when you are half drunk... ok, I'm all drunk, I admit it.
reply to comment by Rayduhz
about 1 month ago

I love how Raider fans still talk about their 3 SBs, won last century, before 90% of them were probably even born.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  yeah, it kind of reminds me of Packers fans, except that the Packers have made solid runs at it in the last couple decades, not to mention an actual Super Bowl win.
reply to comment by Eian
about 1 month ago

Yeah Jon, you're all drunk. I'm not saying we're championship conteneders yet, but the keyword is YET. Give us a season or 2 to get our chemistry together and well be there. As for this season, I'm not going to predict a playoff spot, but I will say we take 2nd in our division.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  That's why I said they were eliminated from this year's playoffs, not next year's or the year after that. Although, chances are...
2. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  "Yeah Jon, you're all drunk"
  
  When did Jon become multiple personas?
3. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  It only gets dangerous when they start using all caps. That means they are yelling.
4. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Hey tosten, if you're going to try to be smart, try reading everything first, that way you have less of a chance of sounding like a 6th grade dropout. The following is a quote from Jon that I was responding to.
  
  "A little of both. Hey, let's see how well you write when you are half drunk... ok, I'm all drunk, I admit it."
  
  So don't try to sound cool, by the way you better hope your crappy chargers can pull it out of their butt this season, cuz this is their last chance.
5. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Wait, wait... is a Raiders fan really mocking a Chargers fan? This really is a strange world.
6. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Elian I am aware of that. And I was aware of that when I made said comment.
  
  But that's not nearly as funny.
  
  But keep being serious dude. I'll take my, cool sounding crappy charger fan self somewhere else. Somewhere where I can pout about how old and dated my football team is and how all their guys are almost done...
reply to comment by brn
about 1 month ago

u know people say the cowboys suck because we cant win a playoff game but then i look at the raiders whens the last time they made it that far when the last time they had a good record how many superbowls have they won
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I don't know the answer to any of those questions.
2. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Don't try to get out of the fact that your team cant win a playoff game lately, by pointing fingers at us, and tryin to feel better. You had an awesome season last year, but your QB decided p---y was more important than a ring.
3. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Have you seen "The Newly Weds"? Do you blame him? Personally I applaud him for his choice so that I got to witness TO break down and cry. Totally worth it!
4. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Hot chicks are a dime a dozen, and personally I don't like Jessica Simpson anyway, because shes ditzy as they come, but T.o. crying, yeah that was good for a laugh.
5. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  A dime a dozen? Can I live where you live?
reply to comment by Go
about 1 month ago

Gruden was 8-8 in his first 2 seasons, then the Raiders had the best NFL team record over a 4 year period.

Lighten up instead of Lighting up.

MB
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  what year's were those? i may have been hit by lightning, or been installing some track lighting, or been drinking several cases of Miller Lite...
reply to comment by greg
about 1 month ago

10-6 baby
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  What are the hours which I am the most drunk between, Alex?
reply to comment by Go
about 1 month ago

The 4 years leading up to the not-so-Super-Bowl with the Bucks, and, eh Gruden...
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  So, it's been a while since they have seen success.
reply to comment by Tosten
about 1 month ago

Never bash the Raiders.
Their fans are pissy.
The response to this has actually been relatively light.

*Preparing to get troll stomped*
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  It only gets dangerous when they start using all caps. That means they are yelling.
  
  Sorry, posted it at the wrong spot. But I don't think any of them will notice.
2. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I read out loud, so I hate it when they do that.
  People give me weird looks.
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

Jon,

2 wins?

I think you edit this article, purge that nonsense, and...return Josh Hamilton's heroin-toker, ASAP.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  What's a heroin-toker? I just use a needle.
2. by Matt
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Actually it was crack you uneducated turd. But, I can see how you think the Raiders are in for more than two wins. They have black uniforms.
3. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Black uniforms? Did I miss something?
reply to comment by Michael
about 1 month ago

i hope your wife and kids die
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I'll be sure to let them know that when I have them.
2. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Living forever would get kind of old I guess...
reply to comment by Jim
about 1 month ago

I may or may not have enjoyed this article, because I may or may not want to invoke the wrath of a plethora of angry fans who may or may not be building homemade incendiary devices in their parents garages.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  And who may or may have to have someone help them sound out the big words.
reply to comment by Mike
about 1 month ago

Awesome article. All I have to say is that anybody that compares the Raiders to the Patriots is the guy who probably brings all the party favors to Rickys parties.
1. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  FYI, any time I make fun of someone's lack of intelligence, the insult will have something to do with Ricky Williams's parties.
  
  This is genius.
2. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Thanks Mike.
reply to comment by Chris
about 1 month ago

I think they can grab more than 2 wins because of the defensive moves they made. But 10 wins (as some commenters are suggesting) ? It takes more time than has passed to develop a team. I think they Raiders have loads of talent... but so do most other teams. I'd predict between 4 and 7 wins because their schedule allows for some opportunities. Don't rape my mother though, Nation, because I DO think the Raiders could soon replace the Chargers in that division with an aging LT.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Wait a second, Raiders fans do what?
reply to comment by Raider Card
about 1 month ago

Jon's shown a good example on how to get lots of comments. Simply add a spirit of any type, then try to pretend you're Nancy Gay or other Bay Area Writer.
In all, I think a lot of teams pictured last year for the Raiders to go winless. Somehow, we doubled our wins.
This year, with a kittin of a schedule, even with the subs, we could go 8-8....and that's not counting throwing in a surprise win here and there.
After all, the Raiders were slated to be 4th in their division in 1983....somehow, someone handed them the super bowl trophy.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Who is Nancy Gay? No joke, I've got no idea who you are talking about.
2. by Paul
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Are you seriously bringing up 1983? They had at least 4 HOFers on that roster - Marcus Allen, Mike Haynes , Ted Hendricks and Chris Long's dad. They also had CB Lester Hayes - a member of the 1980s all-decade team and a punter with an award named after him. They had other pro bowlers such as Todd Christensen and Greg Townsend. Tom Flores was also a pretty decent coach.
  
  You can't bring up anything from 25 years ago as support for the Raiders making the playoffs this season. While this team may be decent, you can't compare them to the 1983 raiders. They are so different they don't even have the same city in their names.
3. by Raider Card
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Nancy Gay, as any Raider fan would know, is a local writer from the bay area, who does two things, and both of them lousy. She writes, and she complains about the Raiders. Most of her writing is second hand information gleaned from places like ESPN, or the NFL Network.
  
  As for Paul, I'm sorry, is there some cosmic law that states information over 25 years is no longer valid? Or is that because before that, the Saints were suspect to be the worst franchise in history?
  Personally, if you want to limit people to comparisons, then that's your own fault, no one else's. I look at the Raiders, right now, having maybe two flat spots....at WR, unless Walker and Carter are solid, and on the Defensive line, that stands to improve due to the extra CB talent. You can't compare Stanford Routt to DeAngelo Hall....difference is like day and night.
  However, you can look at this parallel.
  The 1983 team, had that CB combo, Hayes-Haynes. Our team, now has the CB combo.
  83 had Todd Christensen. Our team, has the up and coming Miller.
  The 83 team has a speedy WR with good hands named Branch. Our guy, is curry.
  The 83 Team, was led by a number one overall pick, Ours is led by an overall number one pick.
  The 83 Team had Marcus Allen, an award winning RB in College. McFadden, Walter Camp Award winner.
  The 83 Team, again, was picked to be 3rd in the division. Most people have us as dead last, or third to last.
  If you can't see the parallels....pull over to the side of the road, you're not fit to drive right now.
4. by Paul
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I am not trying to put any limitations on how far back you can go on comparisons, but to just throw it in at the end of a comment you made seems desperate. If you have to go back 25 years to make your point, then maybe you don't have a point. It reminds me of when my wife argues with me and then brings up something that happened last year. I think if you wrote an article comparing the 1983 Raiders to the 2008 Raiders, that would be more appropriate.
  
  I'm glad that you can click on my profile and know that I am a Saints fan, but that is completely irrelevant to this discussion. By the way, I know that they are one of the least successful franchises in the NFL. I'm not delusional.
  
  Before you start comparing Russel and McFadden to Plunkett and Allen, let them at least play a full season. McFadden may be an All-Pro before it is all said and done with. He has speed to burn. He is going to have a lot of trouble breaking tackles in the NFL. His Razorback teammates made fun of his skinny legs and scouts at the combine said that his biggest weakness is that his legs are dead on contact. I see you parallel with he and Allen in that they were award-winning running backs, but a lot of players have won awards and then were busts in the NFL.
  
  Reggie Bush - Heisman winner. Jury is still out
  Ricky Williams - Heisman winner. a couple of good seasons. head case.
  Ron Dayne - Heisman winner. Bust.
  Troy Davis - 1996 Heisman runner up. back to back 2,000 yard seasons in college. 1 total NFL TD.
  
  Half the Doak winners are busts (Cedric Benson, Chris Perry, Rashaan Salaam).
  
  Asomugha is a good corner. Hall is overrated. He will get exposed when teams throw to his side often to avoid Asomugha.
  
  Corners usually don't improve a line. It's often the other way around.
  
  If you think the Raiders are making the playoffs this season, they are going to have to battle the Bills, Browns, Titans, Texans and Broncos for the final wild card.
5. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I'm neither a Raiders fan nor from the Bay Area, so I didn't really follow that one, sorry. And as for the argument for the 1983 team, both sides have strong and well supported points that I find difficult to mock. But I'll find a way. I just need another beer first.
6. by Raider Card
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Paul, as I've said before, before being critical of McFadden, let's let him play a few years. Too many people in this place seem to think, oh, he's going to Oakland, he'll suck.
  Surprisingly, the Raiders drafted Asomagua(sp), and now that Gallery is in his home spot, plus with a stable coach in Tom Cable, he's playing like he should have.
  The Raiders also drafted Russell, which should make for interesting aspects, now that he's able to work directly with the players he's training with.
  The big thing that's really, really odd....is that while the Raiders went 4-12, everyone wants to throw them out, but teams like the Dolphins, who were truly pathetic last year, are getting more love than the Silver and Black. Heck, the Raiders beat the Chiefs and Broncos, are those clubs in trouble? Of course not....it must have been an error last year.
  Media junkies can't get enough trashing done on the Raiders. It opens up the great question....if the Raiders do make the playoffs, what will the media say then, that it was luck?
  At times I wish we had the luck Jacksonville would have. Time and again, they'd get to the playoffs....and then get soundly clocked by another club.
  Sounds like the Broncos since 2000.
7. by greg
  from about 1 month ago
  
  battle the 4-12 Broncos for a wild card? Since when did last in the west qualify to be a wildcard?
8. by Raider Card
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Greg, The Broncos in 2000 went 11-5...then got knocked out in the first round. So far to date, the broncos have made the playoffs 4 times since the super bowl year....each time, getting knocked out in the first round, only winning once, in 2005....then, losing.
  The other years, 5 of them, the Broncos failed to even make the playoffs, including the first year without Elway. It didn't help either, that Terrell Davis went down, but now the Broncos have their own problems....and possibly no Marshall to keep them out and healthy.
  Last year, we went 4-12....but last year, they were supposed to be in contention for the playoffs, up until they ran into us in Oakland.
  No one gave us a chance, being 3-8.....even after winning against the Chiefs.
  Odd....we won by 2 touchdowns.
  After that, Denver seemed stunned, by what happened. With the loss, they finished the season 2-3, and 7-9.
  It'll be interesting to see this season what will be needed to lock up a wild card berth.
reply to comment by Andrew
about 1 month ago

Hilarius, Jon! Great work. I think the best part of this article is your smart responses to the hater comments. Bravo!
1. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Bravo? you do realize that you sound like the gayest person on Earth when you say that. I can so picture you in short shorts and you're shirt tied in a knot saying. "Bravo Jon, put it in deeper, Bravo"
2. by Andrew
  from about 1 month ago
  
  My shirt tied in a knot? I don't know how to do that...
  
  Do you know?
3. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Why are you picturing his short shorts and shirt tied in a knot, Eian? Does someone have a crush and chooses to deflect the issue with sexuality accusations. I think you are better than that. Be proud.
4. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Sorry Jon, but when I was reading his comment and the word "bravo" crossed through recognition sensors in my brain, it immediately conjured images of gay men dancing.
5. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  That's a very weird connection to make.
  Is there a story behind this, Eian?
6. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Out of curiosity, Eian, what else makes you think of gay men dancing? Puppies, the ocean, any other random images or words?
reply to comment by Kevin
about 1 month ago

Put ur money where ur mouth is Jon, I will bet you we win at least six games... $100 straight up. Put in a paypal account.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  What in the hell is a "ur mouth"? You were doing so will with punctuation and capitalization, then you had to go ahead and send me a text message. So close.
reply to comment by Darkside
about 1 month ago

First off moron, 2-16? And don't tell me you did that on purpose. It's obvious with the sentence directly after that one that you really think there is 18 games in a season. And second what does Daunte have to do with anything. He doesn't have a team.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  First off, someone already made fun of me for that. I blame my editors for not catching the mistake. I'm just the monkey that comes up with the ideas. And second off, I was mocking Daunte's horrible career spiral since leaving Minnesota, it wasn't a direct insult to the Raiders. But if you would like I can come up with a couple of jokes for you.
2. by Darkside
  from about 1 month ago
  
  You seriously need the editors to tell you how many games are in a Football season. Wow.
reply to comment by Andres
about 1 month ago

Your a fool, but i can always enjoy a article written by a man with no intellegence. Thankyou for inviting us into your little fantasy world and letting us imagine with you. Tell Elvis i said hello.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  An Elvis joke? Really? Why not ask me to say hello to Big Foot, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, Andy Kaufman and Tu Pac as long as you are going for original zingers?
2. by Tosten
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Tupac is still alive! I swear!
reply to comment by Tanner
about 1 month ago

JaMarcus Russel missed all of Training Camp last year. He should improve.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Barring any unforeseen injuries, one can only hope for the best.
reply to comment by Andres
about 1 month ago

Oh sorry i forgot to mention all the friends in your fantasy world, thats cute...Pick whoever youd like tho kiddo. It is OK to live in reality tho... just letting ya know ;) but we still accept ya. GO JONNY!
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Thanks Andres, I just don't know what I would do without support from my fans. I really appreciate it.
reply to comment by Chris
about 1 month ago

I don't understand why all these raiders fans have to be so defensive. Make your point and end the comment there, you don't have to attack the writer nor do you have to attack the people that support the writer and/or his entitlement to his own opinion. Let your team talk for you. I'm not attacking you because I know what it's like to have someone post and opinion about your team that predicts a negative season. But all you have to do is support YOUR opinion. Not attack the writer himself... it takes away from your own crediblity.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  It's okay Chris, there is a reason that I said the Raiders instead of the Falcons or Dolphins :)
reply to comment by Barrett
about 1 month ago

Raiders fans are so insecure and defensive. Randy Moss has been my favorite player for 10 years and I've gotten into it with them. When the Vikings and Patriots used him he made pro-bowls, got rookie of the year, was on the cover of video games, set NFL records, and in oakland well...Raiders are pure shit. The only way they know how to respond to negative comments about their team is "shut the fuck up", "you a raider hater", and "you're gay" which have nothing to do with the fact that their team sucks. I don't blame them for being loyal, but don't be stupid.
1. by Carl
  from about 1 month ago
  
  You forgot to mention how they drag out their rusty trophies won over 20 years ago.
2. by Raider Card
  from about 1 month ago
  
  funny, being a Moss fan....should go check out some of the clips, of him and his so-called "commitment to excellence" he was proud to join....and then some of the clips, of him getting hit in the hands, in the chest, or even pulling up halfway in a pattern, giving up on the play.
  Then the following season, mr give up goes to Patriotville.
  Although, I am glad to see the Moss curse is still in effect. Any team, with Moss, can't win a ring....let the patriots keep him.
  
  As for Carl, it's funny...5 total comments, no team listed.....are you shy, or didn't your team even reach a super bowl?
3. by Amorous Aardvark
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I don't have a team listed in my bio either.
  
  I like to keep people in suspense.
reply to comment by Josh
about 1 month ago

thank you, thank you, thank you. finally someone comes forward about this terrible oakland raiders team. every day some raider fan writes a stupid article about how great the raiders are going to be and they have built for the future. it is a bunch of bs. you are only pointing out the obvious my freind and no matter how the rest of us feel, raider nation will just shoot stories like this down and tell you that you are on crack
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  As long as they are reading... and as long as they get the crack part right. I am sick of people confusing it with meth. Meth is for losers!
reply to comment by Andres
about 1 month ago

Ok Barrett. You sure made some great points in defending Jon, but a quick question, did you read the article? Or did you just scroll down to see all the comments Raider fans left him? Yes, im sorry if your feelings got hurt how my Raider brothers completely ripped this article apart about the 2-16 (Maybe he meant 2-14, unless he was entitling we made it to the playoffs with two wins, lost in the Wilcard...advanced to the 1st round then lost again?) and the whole Vegas how if you bet a dollar on the raiders you become RICH!!. Give me a break... Now I've read articles bashing the raiders that had legitimate points...but on this one....I'll use your words Bman "don't be stupid."
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I suppose sarcasm gets lost on some people. Here is a little game for you: replace Oakland Raiders with any other team. Does the article change? Not much. Kinda easy to get under your skin, huh?
reply to comment by John
about 1 month ago

From a Charger fan standpoint -

I have the Raiders at 6-10, but going in the right direction. And also, getting out of the basement in the AFC West (I have Kansas City there at 5-11.) However, it will only continue going in the right direction if they can get Asomugha locked up long term. He is going to be a cornerstone of a really good secondary.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  However, from my standpoint, it would be best for my read totals that the Raiders don't do well so I can write more of these.
2. by Eian
  from about 1 month ago
  
  I think we go 7-9 maybe 8-8, but i think we beat out the broncos. chargers still win the division easy, but chiefs and broncos are nothing this year.
reply to comment by Jeremy
about 1 month ago

this author is a fucking moron.. just leave him alone to be retarded by himself..
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  No, don't do that. It is so much more fun to be retarded with someone else. Perhaps like someone who thinks that an ellipses is done with two periods instead of three.
2. by Amorous Aardvark
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Tacky.
  You mention retards.
  Then post a pic of a Special Olympics participant.
  
  That's just sooo wrong.
3. by Jeremy
  from 26 days ago
  
  Jon, originally you had the Raiders going 2-16 or something along those lines...you must've got the memo that the NFL expanded the regular season to 18 games and believed it..
  
  point proven.. oh and as for me punctuation practices, i capitalize and punctuate properly when necessary.. you are not worth my time to do that..
  
  have a good one man..
reply to comment by Gil
about 1 month ago

JON is dumb sack of sh_t to say that the Raiders are crap... Our team for the FIRST TIME in YEARS we have a YOUNG CORE... Our safties are switching back to their original positions, we have a HEALTHY front 4 and the best DB combo in the league.. BTW, all you Charger fans can bitch, whine, complain all you want because we STILL HAVE MORE RINGS THEN YOU...
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Thanks, but I am curious. How many players on this years team have helped to get the Raiders a Super Bowl ring in the past? I'm just having problems drawing the parallel between this year's "young core" and Super Bowls won a few decades ago.
2. by Raider Card
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Jon, about as many Dolphins that are presently on the team that helped them go perfect in 1972.
  Or helped the Chiefs win their last one.
  As for drawing a line, between our past super bowl squads, and the present youthful generation, it would be hard, considering most of our players were probably not alive then.
  But then, which is harder to see, a Patriot fan trying to draw on their history full of losses, or a Bronco fan trying to draw inspiration from 3 elway losses?
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

Kevin,

"...Put ur money where ur mouth is Jon, I will bet you we win at least six games... $100 straight up. Put in a paypal account..."

Man, I must compliment "ur" efficiency in calling a harlequin's bluff via paypal...priceless
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Wow, didn't realize my sarcasm laced words about a team that I picked randomly could cut so deep.
  
  Can't I just take my own line and bet my $1 to everyone you will ever have... so, around $50?
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

You sound like a damn fool, to me...and a late one too! Considering I already went and placed my bet, when 'the line' went public pal.

I instantly saw this inspiring The Raiders, just from the *egregious-disrespect factor* alone.

So, try again.
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  So, you are saying that if the Raiders make the playoffs it is thanks to my inspiring them? Thanks!
reply to comment by Nick
about 1 month ago

I like how you decide to put "Pabst," and "Cheap red meat," in the fray, seemingly insinuating that Raider fans are poor and can't afford the nicer things in life. That to me, is very derogatory, and shows just how much class you as a person really have.

The bashing is ok, Raider fans are used to that, and honestly it just fuels our fire, we all know the only reason you bash Oakland is because it's the team everyone loves to hate and the only thing that sells (i.e. keeps you in a job).
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  Just out of curiosity, do you tailgate with porterhouse steaks and imported beer?
reply to comment by Danny
about 1 month ago

The raiders lost 6 games last year by 7 points or less !!!!! WE got ALL studs this year the west better look OUT the raiders are going to win the west this YEAR !!!!!!! 11-5 and make the playoffs !!!!!!!
1. by Jon
  from about 1 month ago
  
  And if you don't, I'm sure the same comment will appear this time next year. Not really making fun of you. Minnesota has been doing that for... well, forever.
2. by Amorous Aardvark
  from about 1 month ago
  
  You also won 2 games by 7 or less.
  
  2-14? Quite possible.
reply to comment by Bryan
about 1 month ago

Bo Jackson is gonna get 2,000 yards this season and the raiders are going to the playoffs!!!!!!!

Wait, that was what I hoped for last time I watched the Raiders play.

True Bucs fans will forever live in the memory of the proper thrashing we gave the Raiders in the Superbowl, and may they R.I.P.

I'm so glad I'm not a diehard fan of a team that has 6-10 written all over it.
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

Jon,

don't misconstrue my words, which I never said. So, on that note, I'm saying a Vegas-prediction of 2 wins ---THIS EARLY!--- can only light a fire under them boys. Period. Thats a galactic show of disrespect, considering last season = many of their losses were *close games* like...7 points or less, I think, as Danny keenly alluded to.

I might even agree with you, had Vegas waited until maybe 3 weeks before the season started, to drop such an egregious prediction. But doing so, this early, gives too much time for Raiders to sit back/get angry as hell. So, I'm using my $1 to capitalize on the opportunity!!

peace
1. by Amorous Aardvark
  from about 1 month ago
  
  "can only light a fire under them boys"????
  
  Wow.
  
  Is that how it works???
  
  In that case, all I can assume is someone forgot the matches LAST year when they again predicted doom and gloom for the Raiders..and the year before...etc...etc...
  
  I doesn't work like that.
  
  I mean, players don't, in the middle of the huddle say to themselves "HEY??? They said we suck. Well, I'm NOT going to go out and do my job to prove them wrong."
  
  If that's what it takes for a player to "step it up" then that player is destined for the bench.
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

Mike49er,

wow...got proof?

That Vegas put out a 2-win prediction for the Raiders, last year? year before that? This "early" prior to the start of season?

duuuh I don't think so, Tennessee!

wow...So it's not true that sports have proven decades of ordeals featuring players/teams reading quotes and/or checked newspaper clips where opponents from upcoming games extended disrespectful comments ----and it caused a spark which = an intangible toward success?

duhhhh I think so, Tennessee!

And, remember too, in terms of it taking 'that' for a player to step it up...those words above, were from your idiotic ranting, not mine.
1. by Amorous Aardvark
  from about 1 month ago
  
  You confuse yourself, don't you?
  
  YOU stated Vegas put out the odds/predictions..NOT ANOTHER TEAM OR ANOTHER PLAYER...VEGAS...the bookies...NOT A PLAYER OR A TEAM
  
  Want to see how stupid you sound?
  
  Do you EVER SEE a team or player on any team state "ESPN picked us to lose...GOOOOOLLLLY...now I'm motivated" or someone run the "announcers on MNF believe we'll come in last...we'll show them"??
  
  NO, FOOL.
  
  Now that you've set yourself up...you obviously missed THE POINT OF MY COMMENT, which refutes the hell out of you reply.
  
  Raiders have SUCKED SINCE '02. Since half way through '03, the Raiders have been reading about how horrible they are, including how horrible they're expected to be.
  
  IF WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE, why didn't the Raiders step it up in '04" or '05? or '06" OR '07????
  All of the offseason press was "Raiders suck, and will continue to suck" WEL?????
  
  if all it takes is reading bad press, WHY DON'T THE CARDINALS MANAGE TO JUST GET TO THE PLAYOFFS JUST ONCE EVERY COUPLE OF DECADES???
  
  Why haven't the Raiders answered the non stop comment of "Raiders will NEVER WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL AS LONG AS AL DAVIS IS RUNNING THE TEAM'??????
  
  Because that's not the way it works.
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
about 1 month ago

Mike49er,

the only way you ARE NOT a dumbA$$ Sgt. Dinglemire, is if, the other teams or ESPN are the ones who pay folk who win bets. Only if, ESPN or MNF or whoever else you reached for, are the entities which create THE WORLD's betting line. And not Vegas.

Nothing is more valuable than folks money. Period. Or else Vegas wouldn't be so famous, duuuuuh, okay Tennessess? NFL Football epitomizes that. See the *bet-placing realities* for the previous 25 Super Bowls, for more proof of how out-of-Touch and idiotic your rant here, really is.

OH YEY

I must've missed the proof you laid out, that any of this;

"...'04" or '05? or '06" OR '07????
All of the offseason press was "Raiders suck, and will continue to suck" WEL?????..."

saw the Raiders being predicted to win just 2 games, this early before the start of any of those seasons you list...Big DUUUUH?

hahahaha

You're a joke, clown!
1. by Amorous Aardvark
  from 28 days ago
  
  Is English your second language?
  
  Made no sense at all. lol...seriously.
  
  Like talking to a wall.
  
  Let's keep it very simple for your very simple mind.
  
  The Raiders have not won a Super Bowl in over a quarter of a century.
  
  People laugh at the Raiders, and especially their fans, and state they'll never win another SB.
  
  In 27 plus years, while reading all of the negative slights on the team, and especially you uneducated, uninformed, clueless fans, the Raiders have not ONCE stepped up and proved the naysayers wrong.
  
  In other words, you're a fool.
  
  Now, shut up before you hurt yourself, and by all means, if you insist on playing outside, have someone keep a close eye on you.
reply to comment by Raider D
28 days ago

next try to at least LOOK smart, lol.
reply to comment by yungCaucasoid
27 days ago

Mike49er,

Your diversion tactics, get you nowhere with me, but exploited. As anyone can tell.

Let me know when you're done running/hiding from the following;

1)do the other teams, or ESPN, pay folk who win bets?

2)Are ESPN, or MNF, or whoever else you reached for ----like Reed Richards!---- the entities which create THE WORLD's betting line, and not Las Vegas?

3)Do you realize how much of a Sgt. Dinglemire you are, yet?

4)Nothing is more valuable than folk's money. Period. Or else Vegas wouldn't be so famous (Big Duuuh?) for setting betting lines. NFL Football epitomizes that. Las Vegas and the *bet-placing realities* for the previous 25 Super Bowls, prove that. And, are more proof of how out-of-Touch and idiotic your rant here, really is.

5)OH YEY:

I must've missed the proof you laid out, that any of this, which you defecated onto this article;

"...'04" or '05? or '06" OR '07????
All of the offseason press was "Raiders suck, and will continue to suck" WEL?????..."

Was during any season where the Raiders were predicted to win just 2 games, this early before the start of any of those seasons?

Big DUUUUH?

Members are waiting for you to quit lying, and admit that you're deadA$$ wrong here. If not? Post proof!! Don't come back fatmouthing, just post proof. My research concluded that none ----no, not one--- of those seasons, saw the Raiders picked to win just 2 games, this early before the start of the season.
reply to comment by asd
16 days ago

Jon, why do u keep promoting all this attention to yourself. Are you bored? Is your life going a 2-16 direction? Hope all is well-
reply to comment by james
8 days ago

man fuck all u raider haters and the clown who wrote this article. how can u say only 2 wins. we are much improved from last year and we had 4 last year. the raiders will have around 8-10 wins. i bet none of you haters and this clown would say this in the black hole. u wouldnt make it out alive.

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