Of coure, the NASCAR teams are a different story. Penske has two wins, neither of them particularly deserving, and the Ganassi team shut down the No. 40 a few weeks ago and is more or less wasting the talents of Reed Sorenson and Juan Pablo Montoya.
Since Ganassi entered NASCAR, only Sterling Marlin, Jamie McMurray, and Montoya have won for the team, McMurray's coming in 2002 and Montoya's last year at Sonoma.
Penske has considerably more upside than Ganassi, as the No. 2 and 12 teams have proven they can win if the puzzle pieces fit.
I agree with the popular rumor going around in the last few weeks having Ganssi merging with Michael Waltrip Racing and moving to Toyotas. Ganassi has little loyalty to manufacturers anyway, and he's worked with Toyota before. In the end, however, I like seeing these two teams get beat up in NASCAR. There's no question where the top talent in racing resides, and they're on the track 38 weeks a year.