I've watched Formula One for 18 years now. I have seen many legends come and go. Unfortunately, I saw one of them die. I have watched many thousands of hours of video of seasons gone by.
When I watched a review of the 1982 Formula One World Championship last night, I thought I would release my list. It is rather long, but if you really love the sport, you will read it through.
10. Mika Hakkinen
The great Finn had to be on this list. Who will ever forget that breathtaking move over Michael Schumacher at Spa in 2000? Never had the world seen such brave driving, a move that won him the race. For those of you who were hibernating back then, here's what happened.
For many laps, Mika had been catching Schumy. He was waiting for the right opportunity. That would have to be on the straights, as the McLaren had a massive advantage over the Ferrari in straight-line speed.
As the dueling two fought for the lead, they encountered Ricardo Zonta. They had to lap him. Schumacher went to the left side, Mika to the right. They met in the middle of the track and Mika dove down the inside.
The race was settled, but Schumy eventually took his third world title. Mika won two world titles in his career. From 165 grand prix, he took 20 wins, amassing 420 points.
Unfortunately for Mika, he will never see those trophies again. They were all destroyed in a fire in his home in France in May.
For all his achievements, and that overtaking maneuver, he finishes in 10th place on my list.
9. Jim Clark
Clark took two world titles in his career, which was tragically cut short in a fatal accident in 1968. From 72 grand prix, he won took 25 victories. He also put in one of the greatest drives in Formula One history.
Clark's drive in the 1967 Italian Grand Prix is regarded as one of the greatest ever in F1. After starting from pole, he was leading in his Lotus 49 (chassis R2), when a tyre punctured. He lost an entire lap while having the wheel changed in the pits. After rejoining 16th, Clark then showed his genius by driving at his own limit, something which was not required when leading.
He ripped back through the field, progressively lowered the lap record, eventually equaling his pole time of 1m 28.5s, to regain the lost lap and the lead.
He was narrowly ahead of Brabham and Surtees starting the last lap, but his car had not been filled with enough fuel for such a performance—it faltered, and finally coasted across the finish line in third place.
His phenomenal success, his determination to win, and that memorable drive have won him ninth place on my grid.
8. Jackie Stewart
Sir Jackie Stewart is one of Britain’s most successful racing drivers, having won three world championships. He is widely regarded as the most respected man in Formula One today.
Stewart started 99 grand prix, and managed to take 27 victories. He amassed a total of 359 career points in his career.
His first world title came in 1969 where he drove for the Matra International team. His first title defence ended in disappointment. Stewart could only manage fifth in the world championship after winning just one grand prix.
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5 months ago
Michael you know nothing ... F*ck you ! ... Ha ha ha ... I am kidding ... Great list mate and impressive write up ... I cant say nothing about length ... I think 1 of my 12 articles are like 2000 words ? Ha ha ... U know that I cant stop once I get going !
Great article though mate ... Do I agree ... Actually kind of ... Moss was awesome ... But I would have had Shumacher above Senna for sure ... I tell you one thing you can be sure of ... This will split the community BIG TIME ... You ready for the abuse ? Here is comes ...
from 5 months ago
I am expecting a huge torrent of abuse. from ze germans and da brazilains lol. people will make fair comments, critcism or not. and there will be people who will join the site, and then berate me.
i.e. people who know very little or nothing at all. hopefully the more knowlegable will comment. cheers anyway mate.
when i looked at the length, i did think of u mate lol.
from 5 months ago
That sounds almost wrong, ha ha !
from 5 months ago
haha, it does don't it? eewwww!! u have a one track mind my son lol
from 5 months ago
Its funny but people tend to say that to me a lot ... Ha ha ha ... End of conversation, take it easy mate ! Ha ha ha
5 months ago
You know, it's such a relief to have a person from the UK NOT have Lewis Hamilton on this list! This made my evening!
from 5 months ago
Believe me, that boy will have to win multiple titles before I would even consider him.
from 5 months ago
R u kiddin Mick ? ... Dont write him off just because he hasnt won anything ... You know for a fact that no other Brit driver in the last 100 years have even come close to the caliber of Hamilton ... I am NOT part of Hamilton mania but lets call a spade a spade, he is immense when he gets behind the wheel of that MP4-23 there are few who can compete when he is at the top of his game ... Its only a matter of time b that championship is his.
5 months ago
Michael, a list of grandmasters, but mate why did u leave out Emerson Fittipaldi and Niki Lauda. I would also include Mario Andretti. But then, you ask me, who would I take out, I'd say I would give them a joint position with one of those on the list.
A flawless and wonderful job. Way to go, with your Super all time fav. Race Engineers (do not leave Adrian Newey out, though I would like to ask him about his feelings on the Senna death and what he felt post the charges on him), all time fav. teams etc.,
from 5 months ago
forgot to add Mansell!
from 5 months ago
See, I did want to put Lauda in, but there is only 10 places so he had to ve left out. Too bad I didn't do a top 20. Mansell was very good, but that moustache did him no favours.
I'd love to get Adrian Newey's view on that.
5 months ago
i agree lewis hamilton is no where near any of these at this moment in time , maybe someone in 20 years time will be on bleacher and put lewis in their top ten , great artcle i still get the old lump in the throat when i read anything about senna at imola , the footage of it is hard to take . im surprised to NOT see schumacher no1 and senna no2 but the world would be borin if we all had the same view , they are all world class drivers tho and if lewis wants to be there he needs at least 2 - 3 titles . and by the way how long do u need an article ha ha oj mate .
from 5 months ago
i think schumy 1st senna 2nd is expected so much now, it was nice to break from the mould, so to speak.
haha, the length is quite long.
I am quite happy that I managed to choose 10 world class drivers, all worthy of making this list. cheers for the comment and the POTD mate.
5 months ago
What about Nelson Piquet Sr.? He was a class act with multiple championship titles and deservedly belongs in the top 10.
from 5 months ago
As I have said already, this is my top 10 and Piquet doesn't make it.
5 months ago
man, step back for the "letters to the editor" truck !
Dunno Hill @ #1 because of the triple crown deal. i assumed by the header we would focus on F1.
i'll take 6 out of your 10 for my list though with Schumie bringing up the tail.
yah! i said that.
from 5 months ago
We are focusing on Formula One. Hill is personal favourite over these years, and the triple crown was not the only reason I chose him.
Hill's performances in those respective seasons are considered among the greatest of all time. Schumy bringing up the tail, hmmm, not so sure about that one, although that si your opinion and you are entitled to it.
from 5 months ago
Schumacher never is going to be at the same level of Senna. When he managed to make a extraordinary driving with a inferior car as Senna did for example in a lotus or Mclaren 1993. And Schumacher didn't battle Piquet, Prost, Mansellat least 8 world tiltes combined and his records are somehow not impressive if you don't have a team mate taht you need to beat.
5 months ago
Michael Griffin must be an Englishman. That is the only reasonable explanation for putting a two-time champion ahead of a seven-time champion. Enough said...
Jay
from 5 months ago
sweet jesus, didn't take long did it? I already said it is not facts or figures, it's my opinion of them. How could schumy ever be top after some of the filthy tricks he pulled in his career?
from 5 months ago
Essentially what you are saying is that facts are everything, regardless of personal opinion. So therefore, you would have schumy first, fangio second, prost third and so on.
ridiculous.
By the way, I ain't English either, I'm Irish!
5 months ago
no worries mate , it was a great read it warranted POTD , i understand that these ten are how YOU rank them , so should other people . . like you said i would of put schumi and senna as 1-2 if it was my article but breaking the mould is quite a good thing , it makes a change from the norm . and jay its not going in order of titles its going in order of how mike rates them personally , some drivers on his list may of only won 2 titles but he has picked people on grit and determination too hence hill being at number 1 , take stirling moss for example , some could argue that he shouldnt be in this top ten but he is tere because he fought hard even tho he never won a title .
from 5 months ago
indeed, some people won't consider pure effort rather than just facts. thanks for the comments mate.
5 months ago
This is the most uninformed dribble of all time. You have Hill miles ahead of Clark, yet Hill played second fiddle to him and Clark was the man who won Indy first. You have McLaren in the top ten, yet fail to mention another ANZAC who twice took the title and he clearly was no better than Villenueve father or son. Where is Ascari, Mario and Brabham, Fitti and Lauda. You list does not make sense and shows a lack of understanding of Grand Prix.
from 5 months ago
Your comment shows a pure lack of understanding. It's my opinion and I don't see why this article should be degraded by imbeciles like you who can't accept one persons opinion.
5 months ago
Hill is at best 7th or 8th all time and that is being generous! To put him ahead of Clark, Senna, Michael, Prost, Fangio, Ascari, Stewart, is nothing more than a joke. One thing is for sure, I will bet dollars to donuts you are a McLaren fan.
from 5 months ago
Er, no mate, I'm not a McLaren fan. Never have been. Just accept that this article isn't just about titles. It seems that only records matter to you.
5 months ago
Forgetting greats like Rudolf Caracciola and Tazio Nuvolari who are probably the two greatest of all time. The top 4 in any order are Fangio, Michael, Prost and Senna, to have two none title winners on the list is just mindless. To omit a number of two time winners, who were or are as good as Mclaren would have ever been , demonstrates how little you know. McLaren would be hard pushed to make the top 25, let alone put him ahead of Brabham, Nigel M, Piquet, Alonso, Mario and a host of others.
from 5 months ago
To say McLaren would push hard to make a top 25 shows that you clearly have little to no knowledge of Formula One. you have clearly shown that records are all that matter. Not me, I want pure grit and determination. I want passion for the sport, and unfortunately, you have none,
5 months ago
If one is going by the book and naming the best of all time, Hill does not make the top ten, Moss may make the top 20, only just and McLaren does not make the top 30. You also have in your top 10 Mika and he would be another that would not make the top 10
from 5 months ago
I can't believe that someone with clearly very little knowledge about the pure integrity of Formula One can make these comments.
5 months ago
I would love to have more knowledge on Graham Hill than i already have... of course i know he was a double champion.
Recently i watched a documentary about him on BBC3 and his personality was electric, when he was fun he was fun and when he was serious he really was serious... i guess comparitively to a 60's Schumacher? But then F1 has always had its lifestyle!
Graham was again an all rounder, he wasn't just the driver, but he worked on the cars, and eventually ran his own team and has extensive knowledge similar to that i know well in Schumacher. Hill also kept records of every single race!
But yeh i would love to know more about his career!
from 5 months ago
I wish I could have put more about Hill in here. Maybe in the future I will write an entire artcile about him. Hill really was the ultimate all rounder, he could always be relied on.
5 months ago
Graham only became the man, because the guy who owned him lost his life. He was good at Monaco, although one wonders how many he would have won if Jimmy Clark was racing Indy, instead of Monte Carlo. As far as working on the car goes, the title goes to Jack Brabham, who is the only person who won both the constructors and driver championship in one year. Graham Hill ( and yes I do like him) was at best a journeyman world champion
A quick look at the stats between Clark and Hill will clearly show who is the better:
All races
Jim Clark...............................................................................................Graham Hill
74................................................Races...................................................179
25........33%.................................Victory...................................................7%.......14
32........43%...................................Pole.....................................................6%.......12
32........43%.................................Podium.................................................20%.......36
28........37%..............................Fastest Laps...............................................5%.......10
from 5 months ago
I am sick to death the dribble you are presenting. If you had bothered at all to thoroughly read the article, you will have seen that I believe that records are not everything. Therefore, your comments is futile.
from 5 months ago
As per Michael "records" and hence performance on the track do not matter... what only apparently matters in rating drivers is his opinion... hah hah...
5 months ago
Graham only became the man, because the guy who owned him lost his life. He was good at Monaco, although one wonders how many he would have won if Jimmy Clark was racing Indy, instead of Monte Carlo. As far as working on the car goes, the title goes to Jack Brabham, who is the only person who won both the constructors and driver championship in one year. Graham Hill ( and yes I do like him) was at best a journeyman world champion
A quick look at the stats between Clark and Hill will clearly show who is the better:
All races
Jim Clark...............................................................................................Graham Hill
74................................................Races...................................................179
25........33%.................................Victory...................................................7%.......14
32........43%...................................Pole.....................................................6%.......12
32........43%.................................Podium.................................................20%.......36
28........37%..............................Fastest Laps...............................................5%.......10
5 months ago
If there is such a thing as a top 10 ten of all time, it would look nothing like this fairy tale:
It would look something like the following, the drivers would be in a grouping, thus allowing you to pick your own favorite
Pos 1:
Tazio Nuvolari ( there is nobody even close)
Pos 2-4
Rudolf Caracciola, Michael Schumacher, Manuel Fangio
Pos 5-8
Ascari, Clark, Senna, Prost,
Pos 9
Brabham
Pos 10-11
Stewart, Lauda,
Pos 12 on there are a bunch of talented guys, Mansell, Fittipaldi, Mario, Piquet and a few other, Graham Hill might make this group, if so only just
from 5 months ago
hahaha, Nuvolari 1st. You really don't have a clue. Ayrton Senna is 7th??? jeez, you really don't have a clue.
In future, don't bother commenting on my articles, because frankly, no-one likes to see a smart arse who thinks he knows everything, and then embarasses himself with that list.
from 5 months ago
I said it didn't I? There would be total imbeciles who would join the site, and then subject an article to absolute drivel like this. How can people join this site, and then a few hours later, make comments like the ones that this person has made? They are people that deliberately set out to degrade an article. Totally disgraceful.
Yeah sure, I became a Formula One Community Leader because I know nothing.
Think first before commenting.
from 5 months ago
tazio nuvolari at no1 there is nobody even close you say . since that message we have proved you wrong in that you know nothing about this sport . need i say more , martin brundle was a better f1 driver than tazio .
5 months ago
Well quite frankly, you have shown how little you know. As for Nuvolari, he is considered to be the best racer of all time. As for you being a F1 community leader, that does not say much for the F1 community.
My guess is that you are a little boy, who is trying to play grown up, the only problem is that your lack of knowledge, regarding F1, is at best very weak!
from 5 months ago
haha, the best ever? madness, you are part of a minority of ONE. he is considered among the best, and I would have put him 11th if I was doing a top 20. simple as.
I see no need for you to resort to insulting someone.
5 months ago
You attack to hide the silly mistakes that you made on your first post. As for Hill, there is NOBODY, who would ever say that he was better than Clark, not even his own son would have been that silly
from 5 months ago
Hey Paul, first of all let me say welcome to the site, secondly, it dont look like you have made the best of starts to your Bleacher career so I think the best advice I could give you is to read all articles thoroughly ... Consider your debate, type your comment, re-read it then submit ... I think you must realise that this is not just like an F1 forum where we slate each others opinions, we debate and discuss here ... If this is the type of culture you dont think you can get on board with then it is suggested that you dont input. The vast majority of contributers are people who are wanting to make a career in journalism so the best thing you could do is give constructive feedback. Also the main point I want to state is that Michaels article is an opinion, this top 10 list is in Michaels OPINION the top 10 F1 drivers, so while yes he could have researched and made a top 10 compiled on pure stats which would have looked a lot different so you are missing the point Paul ... Hope you take on board everything I have said and you enjoy your time on Bleacher, will look forward to seeing some of your work on here soon. Thanks
from 5 months ago
I have made no mistakes. It's my opinion, and I find it disappointing that people such as yourself cannot accept that.
5 months ago
Lets get a couple of things straight. You started a topic "Top 10 Formula One Drivers of All-Time" then you set out to justify your picks. First you said "All-Time", that would mean pre and post modern era. This means that the likes of Rudolf Caracciola and Tazio Nuvolari would be included, alongside those of the modern era. In the modern ers, there are a couple of drivers that should be included in any top ten, Jack Brabham (who is the only driver to have won constructors and drivers title in the same year) Alberto Ascari ( who twice took the title, besting Fangio, before losing his life)
Now while you say stats are not important, yet you want to give the number one slot to Hill, in part because he won a series and two races.
My suggestion to you is take the time to study GP, then you can base an opinion, on sound reasoning and fact, not emotions and rhetoric!
from 5 months ago
But thats the point you are failing to see Paul, he has chosen to do it based on emotions and not fact and reasoning ... Maybe the point you are trying to make is that the article title is misleading and it should be changed to prevent further confusion ? Would this be satisfactory ?
Oh and Paul, just let it drop, I suggest that you write a counter article listing your top 10 based on fact !?
5 months ago
"Hey Paul, first of all let me say welcome to the site, secondly, it dont look like you have made the best of starts to your Bleacher career so I think the best advice I could give you is to read all articles thoroughly ... Consider your debate, type your comment, re-read it then submit ... I think you must realise that this is not just like an F1 forum where we slate each others opinions, we debate and discuss here ... If this is the type of culture you dont think you can get on board with then it is suggested that you dont input. The vast majority of contributers are people who are wanting to make a career in journalism so the best thing you could do is give constructive feedback. Also the main point I want to state is that Michaels article is an opinion, this top 10 list is in Michaels OPINION the top 10 F1 drivers, so while yes he could have researched and made a top 10 compiled on pure stats which would have looked a lot different so you are missing the point Paul ... Hope you take on board everything I have said and you enjoy your time on Bleacher, will look forward to seeing some of your work on here soon. Thanks"
This sounds like a bunch on condescending claptrap. He posted an opinion, one that was at best uninformed, he was called on it and responded with personal abuse. Not really a great journalist in the making, I would dare to say! If one makes an opinion, the first thing one should be able to do, is defend that opinion. Silly rhetoric is not an argument in an of itself, a good write should be able to substantiate his or her opinion, otherwise they should write fiction.
from 5 months ago
Paul I think I speak for everyone here when I say: "Leave the site mate" ... Your not making too many friends here, I have tried to be decent with you and tried to reason with you on the level but you crossed the line mate, why do you need to be like this? Yes you are right that if an opinion is stated it must be supported and backed up should it be challenged but why are you making this personal ? You have made your point now if you are so dead set on this being based on fact then write your own bloody article ! If not then politely leave the matter alone, you have milked it beyond all belief !
5 months ago
Sorry to butt in Paul, but a little bit of history on this article - Michael wrote the article with the title "My All-time Top 10" or something to that tune with the "MY" very much prevalent and evident. The editors hacked that word to create more visibility. You can check the article history instead of believing me. One of the editors even went ahead and titled it "Graham Hill tops the All Ten Top List" or something to that tune.
5 months ago
"But thats the point you are failing to see Paul, he has chosen to do it based on emotions and not fact and reasoning ... Maybe the point you are trying to make is that the article title is misleading and it should be changed to prevent further confusion ? Would this be satisfactory ?
Oh and Paul, just let it drop, I suggest that you write a counter article listing your top 10 based on fact !?"
If his list was a fantasy top ten, I would have not bothered to respond, as we are all entitled to an opinion. However, it was quite clear from the first post and the subsequent posts, that he was expecting people to respond. He then went onto to sat that anybody who did not agree was "Roll on the imbeciles who say I know nothing."
The fact is, I can guarantee that I know a great deal more about F1 than he does at this time or is likely to know in the next decade or so. As for a counter article, I gave my top ten that can be substantiated, with reason and facts, yet our budding writee simply attacked the bname on the top of the list, without rhyme or reason.
from 5 months ago
Paul, please can we leave this matter alone, it is spoiling the spirit of this web site, which is, Open Sharing! And please check the article history, he did call it "MY TOP TEN ...." and Gracie edited it out and titled it "Granham Hill....", then Adam re-edited it to the current title. Give Michael a break, please! We are not in kindergarten!
from 5 months ago
Yes he was expecting people to mis-interpret the meaning of the article and you has thus proved his point by making such a fiery debate towards him completely missing the point ...
Whether or not you know more about f*cking Murray Walker is COMPLETELY irrelivant ... Why have you joined this site ? Are you here just to annoy people ? Because your succeeding my friend !
from 5 months ago
Ben, now u lose your cool too :( not done, mate! Paul is just expressing his freedom.
Guys, you know what between the 2 of you, you made this article pretty popular - let me share something here, the last time I read the rules on this web site, the articles are supposed to provoke debate - so the more the brickbats the better, the more people argue about it - even better, the more people come to fist fights - goody! Of course, all these are my assumptions from reading a choice few statements.
from 5 months ago
Course you do mate. Just leave it now, because you are becoming increasingly irritating and childish.
5 months ago
"Sorry to butt in Paul, but a little bit of history on this article - Michael wrote the article with the title "My All-time Top 10" or something to that tune with the "MY" very much prevalent and evident. The editors hacked that word to create more visibility. You can check the article history instead of believing me. One of the editors even went ahead and titled it "Graham Hill tops the All Ten Top List" or something to that tune."
I appreciate your input, your word is of course taken that the articles heading was changed. However, if one reads the article and his additional posts in the same context, it is quite clear, that he was trying to argue his picks as being a fact.
from 5 months ago
Thanks Paul, we are looking forward to your Top Ten List, if you do not think I am being condescending or patronizing, it is out of genuine curiosity as I saw Michael's article too in comparison to an article/post that I read on the PF1 forum a few days back where the racers whose names you mentioned were also featured there.
5 months ago
Ok, now here is a viewpoint that varies from the beaten track, I cannot form my list of ten as I have not seen many of them race and it will be pure conjecture based on statistics and someone's evaluation, hence, I can only list out a few drivers who will make the cut on my list - 1. Michael Schumacher, 2. Ayrton Senna 3. Alain Prost as these are the only drivers whose racers I remember seeing and can recall in instant replay. OKay, my list will also include, for instance a non-winner like Juan Pablo Montoya for speed, Rubens Barricheloa for being a good competitor to Michael at Ferrari if not for team orders, and a few others too ...
from 5 months ago
But I have no complaints about Michael's list, it is HIS LIST, and he has all the right to put whoever he wants there including a driver who has not qualified for the final race and has only been great in testing or practice, why should it be anyone's problem? For instance, in my 2009 driver lineup that is a fantasy article, I wanted Kimi Raikonnen to race for Red Bull alongside Sebastian Vettel!
5 months ago
You are of course entitled to your opinion, as are we all. However, if you take the next step and try and convince others of your views, you need to be able to support your views.
5 months ago
Who is the top ten of all time? First, let it be clearly stated, that the only objective way one can compare drivers against each other, is through statistics, even then, they can be misleading. Take drivers from different eras and the task is even tougher.
Even so, there is one name in motor Grand Prix history that stands out being the very best of all time. Many times the myth is greater than the man, in the case of Tazio Nuvolari, the man is greater than the myth. A champion on two wheels and four, there are volumes written about "The Flying Mantuan" that there is not enough space here to do him justice. One story however, will paint a picture of this great racer. Tazio had broken both legs during practice for the motorcycle GP at Monaco. The next day, tied to his bike and needing to be held by his mechanics at the start and caught at the end of the race. Tazio not only won the race, he broke the track record and lapped the field. Such is the stuff of Tazio Nuvolari, a man who won more than 200 major races. At Tazio's funeral, where there were more than 50,000 mourners, one of them said, "there will never be another to be born like him" the mourner who made the statement Enzo Ferrari.
from 5 months ago
I read that even on PF1 forum and prior to that when I was researching F1 eons ago, but my problem, mate is, he is entitled to his list while I am entitled to mine and I have Attention Deficit so I can only relate to racers I had seen like for instance Ivan Lendl is my favorite all time tennis player, just because he did not win Wimbeldon or statistics do not comply, does that make him any less or Federer any less for not winning the French Open(yet! I am praying he will do it before he quits though)
from 5 months ago
probably my last comment here, but what does that have to do with f1? great drive, but that has no relevance. as i said, it's my opinion.
5 months ago
We all have favorites, you mentioned Ivan. It is fine for you to say he is my favorite tennis player of all time, I can respect that. If however you try to convince me that he is the best of all time, you will need fats to support your emotional view. Your friends response to my saying that Tazio was the best ever "hahaha, Nuvolari 1st. You really don't have a clue. Ayrton Senna is 7th??? jeez, you really don't have a clue. "
So your friend was not just giving his ten favorites, he was agruing the point that they were the ten best. The fact that he knew nothing about Tazio Nuvolari, raises real questions about his F1 knowledge, the fact that he said that I picked Senna 7th, when I in fact named him joint 5th, shows that he likes to play with the truth.
from 5 months ago
Paul, I don't have a problem with what he says, or what you say, both of you have your favorites. But no list of mine or a few F1 followers from a long time will be complete without Giles Villenvue - now tell me how does he get there? Ivan Lendl is right up there with the Borgs etc., and Federer - is he not rated way above some real greats who have achieved more than him - that too pretty early in his career, he was! It is not about friends, it is that, sport is not all about statistics, it is about guts, gumption, skill, technique, and also a lot of other things. How can one relegate sports to mere statistics?
from 5 months ago
I have just had a brain wave, a reminder of something.......
TAZIO NUVOLARI DID NOT RACE IN FORMULA ONE. I only considered the modern era, not pre 1950. therefore you have no argument whatsoever.
5 months ago
You said the "best of all time", even so you ignored Ascari and Brabham!
5 months ago
Well, to conclude it for me, let me just say, we all have our lists and I like mine, you like yours Paul, Michael likes his, and we all have our own justifications. For you Paul, it might be statistics, for me - it is sheer pleasure of race technique, raw power, audacity, skill, and abundance of talent. For Michael, it is several other factors. SO, LET IT REST, MATE!
5 months ago
But you know what guys, (i.e., Paul, Michael, Ben) - I am beginning to like this fight between you guys, seems like Paul is adept at playing the Devil's Advocate. Sure, that Paul is not one of your classmates Michael?! :-) You have my POTD vote for this BIG FIGHT
from 5 months ago
thanks for the POTD.
from 5 months ago
Aaaargggggggh! Whenever I select a POTD, the web site changes my gender :(
from 5 months ago
Dont drag me back into it ... I made 3 comments when I tried to reckon with him but got no where so I was my hands, the article doesnt get POTD based on this idiots argument, you know you can get chat rooms specifically for arguing mate, go find one of them !
from 5 months ago
Problem with statisticians is they don't accept artistery or the other finer things that make one choose something as better than the other; problems with artistery is, it does not have much need for statistics.
Giles Villenvue will be my No. 1 racer!
5 months ago
If one 'Feels' that Senna is the best, lets face it some do, I have no problem with that. If however they try to convince others that Senna is the best, then I am only to happy , to "discuss it" .
from 5 months ago
He is the BEST!
from 5 months ago
PROST is the BEST =
that is ambiguity for you!
5 months ago
It is not however a fact. Truth is Senna is not in the top three of the modern era
. Racing at the end of the day, is about statistics, without them, we do not have winners and losers.When Senna died, he was at the end of his career. His stats, which are not the best would have deteriorated to the point that he would have been forgotten. The ONLY reason that so Many people like Sen