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New York Islander Fan Central breaks down Newsday's latest article on the state of the team with general manager Garth Snow's comments.
Among the highlights:
* In short, no offers to Satan, Vasicek, Fedotenko, Berard because the team does not want to load up on players who could take spots from the younger players.
* Tim Jackman is close on a two-way contract extension.
* Jeff Tambellini, Frans Nielsen and Ben Walter will receive qualifying offers along with forwards Sean Bergenheim, Jeremy Colliton and defenseman Bruno Gervais.
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* According to the GM, goaltender Wade Dubielewicz turned down the club's contract offer (which Mr. Logan speculates could have been a two way deal) and outright blames him for DiPietro's workload because he was in poor shape and could not be trusted by the coaching staff to play.
* The Isles interviewed about 100 prospects in preparation for the draft June 20-21 in Ottawa but the draft board is still not set with another two rounds of amateur meetings.
* Mr Logan speculates Aaron Johnson is not likely to receive a qualifying offer because he can go to arbitration and possibly win a one-way contract to secure one of 23 NHL roster spots.
An update from Chris Dey from 5/29 in the LI Business News is also featured.
For those wondering the IIHF and the NHL transfer agreement which the Czech Republic opted out of in January (joining Russia) put the European 2006 Draft class in limbo with no 6/1 deadline to sign prospects Stefan Ridderwall or Kim Johnasson.
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6 months ago
Like we didn't see THIS coming, right? We could have written this in April. And as nice a kid as Aaron is... he spent way too much time on his butt on the ice. Just pointless.
6 months ago
Hi Ms Karl,
I know it's more than fair to kill Snow on the lack of class about this but Dubielewicz last summer did promise to report to camp in the best shape of his life.
Having written that if Garth Snow felt a player was out of shape and hurt his team he should not be offering him a multi year extension. He should have been sent to Bridgeport in October or outright placed on waivers if the coaching staff could not trust him to play.
This team did not have enough games early for any goaltender to stay in great shape either for what that is worth.
It will be interesting to see if the coach agrees with his general manager that Dubielewicz was not in the best of shape and would not play him.
Regarding Aaron Johnson I did that write up on the blog. I think Mr Logan does not understand the rules or needs to do some editing because if you do not qualify someone he is a UFA.
Thanks....
from 6 months ago
Not sure if I should refer to you as Ms Karl, Mrs Karl, Dee, Seventh Woman?
Need some help on that.
Thanks again.
6 months ago
Note-Mr Logan's comments about Aaron Johnson are that if he were qualfied he could gain a roster spot. How it read earlier seemed a bit different as if he could still go to arbitration if not qualified.
We'll have to see what Garth Snow is planning on that regarding Aaron Johnson but with Martinek, Witt, Hillen, Campoli, Sutton, Meyer signed and Gervais expected to be qualified not much room left for a fringe defender who did play well the last two months getting about fifteen minutes a game and posting a plus rating. If a spot is opened for anyone it should be a UFA top two defender or Dustin Kohn if the club goes prospect.
I mentioned Berard, that does not even include Davison who is also unrestricted.
6 months ago
Another Isles salary dump...what ELSE is new? And I'm not even saying it's not justified-I'm just tired of losing guys year after year for $$$ reasons without getting anything in return. I know Satan has been a bust, but where are our goals going to come from? At least he has the potential to beat a goalie...who else on our roster does? And for our current genius GM Garth Snow to throw a guy like Dubie under the bus is just unacceptable. This makes our organization look totally childlike. It would make any free agent worth his salt think twice about coming here. Don Maloney, Mike Milbury and now Garth Snow...I'm so depressed.
MickeyBoy7
from 6 months ago
Mike,
The Isles right side has Guerin, Hunter and likely Okposo in it's three spots with Rechlicz the fourth line part time enforcer. You cannot sign five right wings to play four spots.
Would you rather Okposo play here or Satan next season? All the top picks from Okposo's draft class are in the NHL playing now.
Satan's was a bust the last two year and he had a no trade clause given to him when he signed here.
This trade deadline he was playing on a bad knee, Isles had won six in a row to get back in the race and the market for Satan would not have brought a first round pick because of the draft class being so strong. It was not a weaker draft like two years ago when players like Guerin and Tkaczuk were moved for a first.
What did Satan have? Sixteen goals. Anyone can replace that and hopefully improve on it if he does not return. His outside shot declined dramatically and all he seems to have is his moves down low which he did not use nearly enough.
Snow said he offered Dubie a multi-year deal, if he turned it down. It would have been better if Snow did not talk about his conditioning but Dubielewicz did last summer as well promising to report in the best shape of his career.
Last two summers Guerin, Comrie, Sillinger, Witt, Berard, Sim, Vasicek, Fedotenko all agreeded to sign here. Rob Hennigar & Jack Hillen who several teams were interested in decided to sign here.
Before that Isles would leave a summer with Randy Robitaille the big UFA signing.
Outside of Smyth the Isles did not want any of their other UFA back last summer.
Try and be a bit less depressed and not worry about Maloney or Milbury so much and stay in the present.
Bill Torrey gave John Tonelli a two way contract after winning four stanley cups back in the 80's and then moved him for Rich Kromm and is not getting the abuse Snow gets today on a backup goalie.
6 months ago
I have been watching Dubie play for years in Bridgeport and I can tell you, that boy isn't lazy. I don't think DiPietro likes him very much and if Prince Ricky doesn't like someone, that's it. DP said he wanted to play all 82 games before camp and I don't think it had anything to do with Snow not trusting him. I can't wait for Dubie to get picked up by a contending team. I personally am praying for Detroit. Dubie in Hockeytown would make my dreams come true. Far fetched? Maybe, but they are in the market for a back-up. Duuuuuu-BIE
from 6 months ago
I have to agree with Laura...we could've had Chris Osgood for nothing more than a contract-remember we had him for a while, I believe off the waiver wire. Now he's gonna win a CUP for Detroit. We had to waste another first round chip on Ricky instead of all that glorious goal scoring talent out there. Oh how I miss Mr. Bill Torrey.
MickeyBoy7
from 6 months ago
Laura,
I have been watching Dubie back to Denver when the Isles beat out a bunch of teams to sign him. After his fantastic season as a rookie at Bridgeport he played his way out of the NHL mix during the lockout season in Bridgeport and lost his job to Dieter Kochan. After that season the Isles broight back Snow and then signed Dunham.
If you recall last season Ted Nolan did not trust Dubielewicz even with Dunham struggling kept going back to his veteran until he was virtually unplayable.
There is no evidence Dubielewicz does not get along with DiPietro and all goalies say they want to play every game. If they did not fans would wonder how come they don't want to play?
To me Dubie could start for a few teams in this league. I hope he does a great job where ever he lands.
Chris Osgood was terrible his final season with the Isles after he turned down a contract extension, he went to St Louis and struggled for years and almost played his way out of the league entirely after being relegated to backup status. He gave the Isles a great first month in 2002, many of the goals he allowed in the Leaf series after game three were soft including the series winner to Travis Green.
There was a reason Detroit put him on waivers long ago too, bad goals always found him. I'm thrilled he's on a great run with the Wings now but that does not change history.
DiPietro held the Isles in contention on a club that scored two goals or less fourteen games in a row and was named to the all-star team for having a team that was the lowst scoring in the league in a playoff spot. He played well after the all-star break aside from the two games right after his grandmothers funeral.
His final game against Montreal he literally held the Isles in the game until the third with several great saves.
6 months ago
Mikey Boy,
Bill Torrey was a man Islander fans were booing in the early 90's after so many of his top picks were outright busts. Sissons, Chykowski, Delgarno, ect.
I think he's great too but all gm's make bad picks sooner or later.
The current Isles have been to the playoff four of the last six seasons, Bergenheim, Comeau, Okposo, Nielsen, Colliton, Gervais, Campoli and have been or will be worked into the mix with Hillen and Hennigar. Joensuu, Figren, Marcinko have all been signed and they have ten more picks at the draft.
from 3 months ago
Mr. Fan Central,
If you are seriously trying to say that you are happy with the way the Isles management compares to the Torrey era I'm afraid you've lost all respect from me. I know you want to be a fan and point out the glass half full stuff...BUT...Mr. Torrey took an expansion team and built it into a DYNASTY. Torre in 1991 had rebuilt the Islanders to Stanley Cup contenders...remember the Hunter/Turgeon mess? The following season they missed the playoffs and the new impatient ownership group forced him out. So you want to mention a few bad picks he made? I'm not even going to reply with the list of greats he drafted and traded for. He then goes to Florida and brings them to the top.
I guess you want to see Milbury and Snow's banners replacing Arbour & Torrey's. And I hope you enjoyed the Isles the last 4 out of 6 years and their great playoff runs. My head still hurts from watching it all.
3 months ago
Mickeyboy,
I'm not comparng past management to current management, but it is fact our fans booed Bill Torrey in the early nineties for a lot of decisions that did not work out at the end of his tenure. I was at those events and witnessed them personally and if your a long-time fan you know this yourself.
He drafted Sissons, Dave Chyzowski, LaChance, Dalgarno, Kevin Cheveldayoff,Dean Chynoweth and a lot of picks that were flat out busts that set the franchise back, virtually nothing came out of the farm system in terms of quality for a set of years.
Is it Torrey's fault a player rated second overall was a bust? No because he picked Chyzowski just like gm's take players now based upon where ranked just like Snow picked Bailey and will be criticized if it does not work out. Torrey made some great picks later in Palffy, Malakhov, Kasparaitis but for good part of the late eighties damaged things for a long periord that only got longer when ownerships started making things even worse.
As for the present I don't do glass is half filled stuff, Islanders went to the playoffs four of the last six years, many teams in this league have not done that. No banner waving for mediocrity but enough media overexagerating how bad things are either.
Islanders right now are a middle of the road club with a lot of prospects that looked good last year and a team that was in a playoff spot until 400 man games lost to injury finished them and still they won six in a row going into the trade deadline. The defense should be improved with Meyer, Sutton picking up where they left off with no Berard or Bergeron, hopefully the group stays healthy.
Not to nitpik but the Islanders gave Buffalo a solid five game series and if a few replays went their way it may have been a different result. If a replay goes their way against the Rangers the Isles finish sixth that year and play Atlanta and likely advance.
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