The Raiders and the Patriots have a funny relationship. From the tuck rule, to Randy Moss, to Doug Gabriel, to Lamont Jordan, to Derrick Burgess, to Andrew Walter along with a draft day trade in 2009 that sent New Englands's 2nd, 4th and 6th Rounders to Oakland for their 2nd Round pick that turned out to be Ron Brace.
Derrick Burgess had given up on this team. He wanted out and the Raiders gave him what he wanted. He was traded, to the Patriots. The Raiders got a 3rd and 5th Rounder in return.
He had just turned 31 years old earlier this month. Burgess only issue was staying healthy, when healthy he produces. That's a big, WHEN HEALTHY.
Now, the Raiders have given up a 1st Round pick in the 2011 Draft for a 29 year old Richard Seymour, that'll turn 30 in October of this year. Seymour has awards, titles and experience to bring to this team along with a one year left on his contract.
Seymour, was a key part of the three Super Bowl winning teams. He was able to get to the Pro-Bowl five straight years from 2002 to 2006.
So at the end of all this hoopla, the Raiders ended up with Seymour, 2010 3rd Round and 2010 5th Round picks. While the Patriots ended up with Burgess and a 2011 1st Round pick. Seeing how the Raiders are progressing, that 1st Rounder should be a pick in the mid-teens.
Anyway, you may wonder why I bring all this up about Burgess, well, I feel that he was better then Seymour. Seymour was able to produce thanks to very well put together defensive scheme, working with guys like Vince Wilfork, Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Willie McGinest, Ted Washington, Ty Warren, Roosevelt Colvin and Keith Traylor amongst other role-players.
He was able to succeed with help from a successful Defensive Coordinators, Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini during those times.
Imagine if the Raiders would've been in that situation with any of those players here to help a guy like Burgess, his numbers would be through the roof.
Let's compare the two.
Richard Seymour, 111 games, 357 tackles (223 solo, 134 assists), 39 sacks, three forced fumbles with two INTs. His career best in tackles was 57 in 2003 and his career best in sacks was 2003 and 2008 with eight sacks. He was helped with 2003 with the presence of Ted Washington next to him and in 2008 with Vince Wilfork.
Derrick Burgess, 85 games, 227 tackles (187 solo, 40 assists), 47 sacks, five forced fumbles with no INT. His career best in tackles and sacks was in 2005 where he racked up 51 tackles and 16 sacks.
If you compare numbers and situation. Burgess is better, flat out. In my opinion, Burgess has done better around alot less talent and non-creative schemes.
That's statistically speaking. As for leadership and experience, that's extremely easy, Seymour gets the nod. He has a voice that will be heard in the locker room that can talk about his winning ways. Unlike, Greg Ellis, this man has won alot.
We now have Nnamdi Asomugha, Greg Ellis, Richard Seymour and Kirk Morrison out there 'leading' this defense. I like that, ALOT! That's a solid core addition of new veterans to the team along with original Raiders that'll lead.
Let's see what Seymour will do for the Raiders.
Now the Raiders have two veteran studs on the ends to take care of business. Seymour and Greg Ellis should be the eveydown DE's now with Trevor Scott, Matt Shaughnessey and Jay Richardson coming in to rest them. Our ends are locked up, nicely. I'd expect for Scott, Shaughnessy and Richardson to learn ALOT from the veterans. This will accelerate their growth big-time.
The DT's are going to have to play a huge part. Tommy Kelly has been consistantly decent, he does a good job everygame. I'm still waiting for him to make that 'jump' to the next level of play. He is definately ready to do that once any of his fellow DTs next to him can do anything. Gerrard Warren has been showing that he can play hard, the question is, can he keep it up for more then 2-3 plays? Castoff, William Joseph is left on the bench along with rising UFA rookie, Desmond Bryant. I'd expect for Bryant to slowly crawl into the starting DT spot alongside Kelly during the year. This way, Warren can come in and give 110% on plays since they'd be 2-3 snaps apart, fatigue won't be an issue.
I feel that with John Marshall's knowledge of this game with the added veteran voices, we can improve. The big hole on this team, production wise, lands on the shoulders of our Safeties. That should change once Mike Mitchell knocks someone out running a route across the middle. Tyvonn Branch is slowly improving and Michael Huff has shown some improved play-making.
Thought I'd throw my opinion out, how does everyone else feel about this deal?