Tribe Talk: Shapiro's Frankenstein Of A Team Comes Back To Haunt Him

Samantha Bunten by Correspondent Written on July 02, 2009
CLEVELAND - APRIL 10:  Fans file into the stadium prior to the start of the Cleveland Indians and Toronto Blue Jays game April 10, 2009 at Progressive Field in Cleveland, Ohio.  (Photo by Matt Sullivan/Getty Images) (Photo by Matt Sullivan/Getty Images)
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. Other starts will remind us of why he only pitched in 26 games in three years in New York.

I think Pavano, at this stage of his career, is going to need that extra day or two of rest every several starts. The June starts proved that you can't just keep throwing a guy out there every five days at that age and with that injury history.

So keep his innings in check and give him that extra rest every so often and he will return to being a decent, yet not spectacular, pitcher.

 

Jeff Smirnoff: Carl Pavano is who we thought he was! He is an average MLB pitcher who will have ups and downs. He had a great May and is struggling in June. Anyone who didn't expect that was fooling themselves.

However, it does look like he was battling some sort of injury the last few times out (also expected) and it is definitely affecting him. This is part of being an average pitcher and part of working through injury.

 

4. It takes a lot for a manager to publicly call out a player (especially a 'player's manager' like Eric Wedge), yet Wedge has done this to Jhonny Peralta on multiple occasions. In the most recent instance about a week ago, Peralta fired back.

While it is not uncommon for a player to defend himself in such a situation, Peralta's comments went beyond arguing his case when he not only undermined his manager, but alluded to an eagerness to play for another team.

Do you think Peralta's comments were out of line? Is it ever OK for a player to publicly question his coach?

 

Dale Thomas: Spats between players and coaches should always remain between the two. Each simply uses the media because they can't sell their arguments on their own.

I know if I had a professional writer listening to only me, I'd probably win more arguments...then again, if I were Jhonny Peralta, it might take a lot more than a professional writer to locate any merit in my energy-exempt performance with the Tribe.

Of course one could say the same thing about Wedge. Maybe these two should be on an Indians deadpan debate team since yapping about each other is the only time we see them eager for anything.

 

Samantha Bunten: I’m of the opinion that you solve your own problems in your own house, so I cannot condone Peralta whining to the media about Wedge, or Wedge calling Peralta out in a public forum in the first place.

While this is likely a product of frustration that has begun to boil over on both their parts, lashing out at one another publicly does not do Peralta, Wedge, or the team as a whole any favors.

Other team members don’t need the extra headache this brings on, and fans don’t want to watch players or managers point fingers at each other in an attempt to dump the blame on someone else for ruining the season. No one wants to hear your excuses, and no one wants to see your dirty laundry.

To address this situation specifically, I do not actually have a problem with Peralta defending himself even if it means taking a shot at Wedge. Normally, I would see this as disrespectful, but under the current circumstances it just provides more proof that Wedge has lost the respect of his players.

What I do have a problem with is Peralta’s thinly-veiled reference to wanting to play for another team. Players should never publicly declare to their fans that they just can’t wait to run off and abandon them.

This comment was classless, unprofessional, and apathetic, which, sadly, is exactly what I expect from Jhonny Peralta. If he wants to play for another team, I say good riddance. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

 

Scott Miles: I just think it is pent-up frustration. Peralta, right or wrong, has been in Wedge's doghouse more than any other player not named Brandon Phillips or Josh Barfield.

While I don't agree with calling out a coach or manager publicly, I think a bit too much can be made of it (especially a player of Peralta's caliberif you have someone like Derek Jeter or Albert Pujols calling out a manager, then I'd take notice.)

In a season like this, I don't think Peralta calling out Wedge is that big of a deal.

Jeff Smirnoff: No I do not. If Wedge is going to publicly call out Peralta, then turnabout is fair play.

Jhonny Peralta is a very frustrating player to watch play. When he is "on" he is great but when he is not he can look pretty bad, especially because of his demeanor.

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